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| [21:34:55] | <mig5> | hefring: aegir is http://aegirproject.org |
| [21:34:55] | <hefring> | mig5: Okay. |
| [21:38:28] | <mig5> | hefring: seen mig5? |
| [21:38:28] | <hefring> | mig5 was last seen in #aegir 0 sec ago saying 'h_efring: seen m_ig5?'. |
| [21:38:40] | <mig5> | damn, i wanted recursion |
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| [21:41:46] | <parsingphase> | congrats |
| [21:41:54] | <parsingphase> | the bot's smarter than you. |
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| [21:44:33] | <parsingphase> | wonder if I can revert the last 13 hours and get some more sleep... |
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| [21:58:25] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: it does :) |
| [21:58:42] | <EugenMayer> | as iam extending aegir to be a complete maintainace and build cockpit / platform |
| [21:59:15] | <EugenMayer> | and it rather is unhandy not using the normal api with node_save nor being able to have new widgets but rather work with raw FAPI + form_alter |
| [22:02:29] | <EugenMayer> | Is it actually somehow possible to deploy a "full fledged" db with a new site in aegir then working with a profile ( which is kind the diff of the default drupal DB to your target settings ) |
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| [22:04:38] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: are there any thoughs about using revisioning for plattforms? |
| [22:04:47] | <EugenMayer> | This would make a _lot_ of things easier |
| [22:07:38] | * parsingphase pays attention |
| [22:07:53] | <parsingphase> | actually I won't look too interested or I'll end up writing it. |
| [22:08:29] | <EugenMayer> | I mean currently its really painful to use aegir for maintainance |
| [22:08:33] | <EugenMayer> | you have a site on platform A |
| [22:08:54] | <EugenMayer> | now some modules get updates, so you create platform B |
| [22:09:09] | <EugenMayer> | with the one the same server |
| [22:09:16] | <parsingphase> | EugenMayer: My thought at the moment is to use makefile stubs to point to install profiles kept in version control |
| [22:09:21] | <EugenMayer> | then you migrate the site that platoform |
| [22:09:36] | <parsingphase> | and just build the platform from those remote makefiles |
| [22:09:43] | <parsingphase> | but can't automate that bit |
| [22:09:43] | <EugenMayer> | In my env this is all automated |
| [22:09:52] | <parsingphase> | *nods* |
| [22:09:55] | <EugenMayer> | parsingphase: well actually iam using a UI to build the make fiels :) |
| [22:10:00] | <EugenMayer> | drush_make_ui |
| [22:10:04] | <parsingphase> | oh |
| [22:10:12] | <parsingphase> | how's that work then? |
| [22:10:26] | <EugenMayer> | + some foo + some magic to connect those makefiels to a "drupal project" which is a site, on a server. Then all platforms / updates / migrations are done automatically |
| [22:10:46] | <parsingphase> | is drush_make_ui a standard project somewhere? |
| [22:10:56] | <EugenMayer> | update_feed_api |
| [22:10:58] | <EugenMayer> | update_feed_cck |
| [22:11:02] | <EugenMayer> | drush_make_ui |
| [22:11:21] | <EugenMayer> | it enables you to create a make file while having module + version autocomplition |
| [22:11:23] | <EugenMayer> | using a UI |
| [22:11:37] | <EugenMayer> | and it lets you generate a default make file for drush OR use it for aegir :) |
| [22:11:53] | <EugenMayer> | e.g. using the URL ( view url ) which generates the make file on the fly |
| [22:12:22] | <EugenMayer> | be sure to use the git projects and not the drupal.org releases, they are pretty outdated |
| [22:12:31] | <parsingphase> | cool, thanks |
| [22:12:47] | <mig5> | 22:08 < parsingphase> but can't automate that bit |
| [22:12:52] | <mig5> | you can automate it |
| [22:12:55] | <EugenMayer> | i have automated it |
| [22:12:56] | <mig5> | building platforms and adding the nodes that is |
| [22:13:02] | <parsingphase> | ahh |
| [22:13:03] | <EugenMayer> | exactly. |
| [22:13:09] | <mig5> | oh i thought EugenMayer said you couldn't. sorry :) |
| [22:13:11] | <EugenMayer> | But dont forget about the relations. |
| [22:13:13] | <parsingphase> | how? ;) |
| [22:13:22] | <EugenMayer> | "which site should migrated on which platform" ? |
| [22:13:45] | <mig5> | parsingphase: http://lists.aegirproject.org/pipermail/aegir/2011-January/000026.html |
| [22:13:46] | <EugenMayer> | that question is to answer mig5, and when you find the answer you will understand why iam pretty disap. about not having CCK |
| [22:13:52] | <mig5> | so write it then |
| [22:13:54] | <mig5> | and stop whining :) |
| [22:13:57] | <EugenMayer> | hehe |
| [22:14:02] | <EugenMayer> | good point :) |
| [22:14:09] | <EugenMayer> | But whining makes more fun! |
| [22:14:16] | <mig5> | only for so long |
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| [22:14:41] | <mig5> | so we can't yet automate drush @hosting-task when it requires arguments (like migrate, etc) |
| [22:14:46] | <mig5> | we have a ticket for that |
| [22:14:49] | <parsingphase> | drush make doesn't support Hg with working-copy, does it? |
| [22:15:03] | <mig5> | http://drupal.org/node/1003536 |
| [22:15:09] | <mig5> | parsingphase: dunno |
| [22:15:45] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: well you can simply use the node_save api to create tasks like migrate |
| [22:15:51] | * parsingphase does not want to have to teach the design team git after just teaching them Hg |
| [22:15:54] | <EugenMayer> | why actually extending the cli. |
| [22:15:57] | <mig5> | EugenMayer: http://drupal.org/node/699920 |
| [22:16:02] | <parsingphase> | 'sides which, Kiln's Hg based |
| [22:16:31] | <mig5> | people use Hg? :) |
| [22:16:36] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: when dealing with site relationships please think more deeply.. |
| [22:16:43] | <mig5> | ofcourse |
| [22:16:52] | * parsingphase replaces mig5 with a very small 'print "http://drupal.org/node/".rand(10000)' script ;) |
| [22:16:53] | <mig5> | you can see it is a ticket screaming for your patches :) |
| [22:16:55] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: about having revisioned platforms. This saves a lot of problems and issues OOTB |
| [22:17:25] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: a simple "site" relationship wont solve the problems |
| [22:17:31] | <mig5> | sigh |
| [22:17:33] | <mig5> | i know |
| [22:17:38] | <EugenMayer> | after that people will start asking "actually which server" :) |
| [22:17:38] | <mig5> | so fix it :) |
| [22:18:35] | <EugenMayer> | well i have fixed it |
| [22:18:52] | <parsingphase> | I dunno mig5, just 'cos you write all this stuff for free and open source it, ya think you can tell other people to do the same... oh, wait... ;) |
| [22:19:49] | <mig5> | GPL is a parsing phase |
| [22:21:10] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: i just copied the whole aegir installation from my host to my desktop. I have setup the hostmaster user, the aegir_root user, the database, the user + cronjob, the .drush folder, the drush installation and the whole aegir stuff + the apache stuff. Anything works ( i have done this on my laptop and it works fine ). But on my host, when i run the cron, i get the normal message the bootstrap fails because of it cant connect to the data |
| [22:21:29] | <EugenMayer> | any clues on that? I can access the hostmaster with apache and things without issues so iam confused. |
| [22:22:08] | <mig5> | maybe the drush alias files in ~/.drush have paths that aren't valid now that they're on your desktop |
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| [22:22:33] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: i tripple-checked them |
| [22:22:46] | <EugenMayer> | IPs are fine, passwords / user are fine, db host is fine |
| [22:22:49] | <parsingphase> | mig5: must admit I didn't fully understand the content of that email first time I read it. Can I just use any drupal sandbox as source to provision-save? |
| [22:23:08] | <mig5> | 22:21 < EugenMayer> IPs are fine, passwords / user are fine, db host is fine |
| [22:23:09] | <mig5> | but paths? |
| [22:23:18] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: i used the same paths on the server |
| [22:23:21] | <mig5> | i don't know, pastebin the actual errors |
| [22:23:23] | <EugenMayer> | (to avoid those ) |
| [22:23:39] | <mig5> | parsingphase: do you mean can you use provision without aegir? i don't know, probably you can |
| [22:23:54] | <mig5> | it just generates drush aliases |
| [22:23:58] | <mig5> | i don't think it depends on the frontend |
| [22:24:12] | <parsingphase> | no, I mean use a svn checkout to create provisions I then pass to aegir |
| [22:24:21] | <mig5> | i'm confused |
| [22:24:22] | <EugenMayer> | http://pastebin.com/RQHiFs25 |
| [22:24:38] | <parsingphase> | mig5: you're supposed to be ;) |
| [22:24:58] | <mig5> | EugenMayer: it means either the hosting frontend module is missing or it simply can't bootstrap the aegir frontend site |
| [22:25:14] | <EugenMayer> | yeah |
| [22:25:15] | <parsingphase> | actually I think the answer to my question is yes. |
| [22:25:22] | <mig5> | parsingphase: ok let's go with that |
| [22:25:33] | <parsingphase> | and another element *grin* of the workflow design clicks into place |
| [22:26:06] | <mig5> | parsingphase: so yeah you'd use drush_make to fetch from svn, then those tools to automate defining it as a platform in aegir |
| [22:26:11] | <mig5> | if that's what you mean |
| [22:26:46] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: where does actually the drush instance get the DB connection data? they are saved in the vhost, but that would not gete used here. Are they saved in an alias somehwre? |
| [22:27:02] | <mig5> | in the drushrc.php possibly |
| [22:27:03] | <parsingphase> | yeah, 'cept we use Hg, which apparently can't use --working-copy with drush make |
| [22:27:09] | <mig5> | /var/www/aegir/hostmaster-0.4-beta2/sites/deployment.kwork/drushrc.php |
| [22:27:09] | <mig5> | /var/www/aegir/hostmaster-0.4-beta2/drushrc.php Drush alias files : /var/www/aegir/.drush/server_master.alias.drushrc.php |
| [22:27:13] | <mig5> | /var/www/aegir/.drush/platform_hostmaster04beta2.alias.drushrc.php |
| [22:27:14] | <mig5> | try each of those :) |
| [22:27:16] | <mig5> | /var/www/aegir/.drush/hostmaster.alias.drushrc.php |
| [22:27:22] | <mig5> | it's probably in /var/www/aegir/hostmaster-0.4-beta2/sites/deployment.kwork/drushrc.php |
| [22:27:24] | <EugenMayer> | arg |
| [22:27:30] | <parsingphase> | but if I can get the files in place without --working-copy I can still do the rest of the process |
| [22:27:32] | <mig5> | and also /var/www/aegir/.drush/hostmaster.alias.drushrc.php |
| [22:27:32] | * EugenMayer facepalms not seeing that |
| [22:29:00] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: using the user / pw there i can connect without any issues using mysql cli. Man. |
| [22:29:06] | <EugenMayer> | i must be blind or something. |
| [22:29:11] | <adrinux> | parsingphase: iirc the drush_make code for version control is fairly simple, you can likely write a patch for Hg support without a lot of effort |
| [22:29:29] | <parsingphase> | *nods* |
| [22:30:06] | <adrinux> | parsingphase: mostly just duplicate git or bzr releated code and change git/or bzr to hg :P |
| [22:30:19] | <EugenMayer> | mysqli extension for PHP is not installed. Check your php.ini to see how you can enable it.[bootstrap] |
| [22:30:23] | <EugenMayer> | ARGs- |
| [22:30:46] | <mig5> | :) |
| [22:30:47] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: well, eventhough that goes back the an issue on my side it could happen to others not having that module active for CLI |
| [22:31:05] | <EugenMayer> | could we have a better errro message here, what do you think? It does not show up without --debug |
| [22:31:13] | <mig5> | we probably could |
| [22:31:18] | <mig5> | but it is not something for aegir to fix |
| [22:31:23] | <adrinux> | parsingphase: though the relevant code may well be in drush not drush_make, iirc |
| [22:31:24] | <EugenMayer> | yeah its drush |
| [22:31:27] | <mig5> | you could file an issue in the drush queue |
| [22:31:38] | <mig5> | drush is awful at reporting decent errors most of the time |
| [22:31:40] | <mig5> | i find |
| [22:31:41] | <parsingphase> | http://drupal.org/node/683208 |
| [22:31:58] | <mig5> | 'an error occured at function blah blah. the error was: "" ' |
| [22:31:59] | <mig5> | i love those ones |
| [22:32:02] | <EugenMayer> | and drush and fserver seem to be "unmoveable" for not-core devs of the projects. Patches are mostly simply dieing in the empty space :/ |
| [22:32:11] | <parsingphase> | but yeah, can either fix (which might not actually solve my workflow anyway) or work around |
| [22:32:30] | <parsingphase> | oh, you having fun with fserver too? |
| [22:32:34] | <EugenMayer> | parsingphase: pretty easy to implement though |
| [22:32:43] | <EugenMayer> | parsingphase: i have forked it already yes. |
| [22:33:02] | <EugenMayer> | and written fserver_bonus |
| [22:33:28] | <EugenMayer> | and things like having SCM / "source" data in the update feed |
| [22:34:01] | <parsingphase> | obviously I just need to take a closer look at your github code ;) |
| [22:34:09] | <EugenMayer> | so update_feed_api can easily parse it. This way i can create a make file using the gui (using the fsever package, so tgz with versions ) and then press on "get me that for a dev" |
| [22:34:27] | <parsingphase> | I swear, everything useful you learn about Drupal provisioning, you do by coincidence. |
| [22:34:32] | <EugenMayer> | and i get a dev version of the make file, using the "source" (like git) instead of the tar.gz when available |
| [22:35:03] | <EugenMayer> | also having that for "recommoneded release" |
| [22:35:23] | <EugenMayer> | so instead using the "version" in a make file, get a makefile for recommended stuff ( useful for staging platforms ) |
| [22:35:39] | <EugenMayer> | parsingphase: not all those things are release / will get released. But all the basics are. |
| [22:35:46] | <parsingphase> | okies |
| [22:36:05] | <EugenMayer> | https://github.com/EugenMayer |
| [22:36:08] | <EugenMayer> | just have a look there |
| [22:36:16] | <parsingphase> | *Nods* already there |
| [22:36:18] | <parsingphase> | thanks |
| [22:36:40] | <EugenMayer> | i also have build in support for libraries and core in fserver |
| [22:36:46] | <EugenMayer> | as this is completlely missing |
| [22:36:54] | <EugenMayer> | (and needed for make files ) |
| [22:37:16] | <EugenMayer> | https://github.com/blackice2999/FeatureServer |
| [22:37:45] | <EugenMayer> | look at the branches there. Thats what we fixed / added |
| [22:38:08] | <EugenMayer> | you can really do a lot of nice things with drush + drush make + aegir |
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| [22:38:14] | <parsingphase> | y'know I might just paste this entire transcript into our wiki, once I remove the bits where I insulted our design team ;) |
| [22:38:30] | <EugenMayer> | hehe |
| [22:38:42] | <EugenMayer> | wiki?`Thats our job! :) |
| [22:38:46] | <EugenMayer> | http://drupal-wiki.com |
| [22:38:54] | <EugenMayer> | (just what we do this all for actually ) |
| [22:39:10] | <EugenMayer> | what wiki are you using? |
| [22:39:30] | <parsingphase> | Leider koennen das haupteil unserer Glied kein Deutsch lesen... |
| [22:39:38] | <parsingphase> | (although that may prove I can't either) |
| [22:39:47] | <parsingphase> | Fogbugz wiki |
| [22:39:53] | <EugenMayer> | parsingphase: hmm there is an english versin |
| [22:40:01] | <EugenMayer> | arent you switched to the english site? |
| [22:40:06] | <parsingphase> | nope |
| [22:40:19] | <EugenMayer> | if i may ask, what is your browser setting? |
| [22:40:23] | <EugenMayer> | (lang) |
| [22:40:26] | <parsingphase> | hrm, have I got german set above english in my browser prefs? |
| [22:40:34] | <EugenMayer> | i have no clues |
| [22:40:46] | <EugenMayer> | well lets see, i have a worm installed on your PC...let me check |
| [22:41:00] | <parsingphase> | good trick, I'm using a mac ;) |
| [22:41:07] | <EugenMayer> | even better |
| [22:41:10] | * EugenMayer sighs BSD |
| [22:41:36] | <parsingphase> | Oh, redirects fine in Firefox |
| [22:41:52] | <parsingphase> | Safari's obviously feeling adventurous |
| [22:42:14] | <EugenMayer> | I hate safari personaly even like ie6 |
| [22:42:23] | <EugenMayer> | why it cant just behave like chrome... |
| [22:42:28] | <parsingphase> | doesn't it? |
| [22:42:35] | <EugenMayer> | It has issues with swfupload, issues with jquery.form .. |
| [22:42:39] | <parsingphase> | ahhh |
| [22:42:40] | <EugenMayer> | no it does not at all. |
| [22:43:18] | <EugenMayer> | Its a cool browser and pretty fast, but hey..why dont just add more different ways to render / work / communicate with servers |
| [22:44:32] | <parsingphase> | heh |
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| [22:47:13] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: mysqli i installed for cli ... any ideas why it could not work in that env? |
| [22:48:09] | <EugenMayer> | /usr/lib/php5/20060613 # ll | grep mysqli |
| [22:48:09] | <EugenMayer> | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 122864 2009-10-23 18:35 mysqli.so |
| [22:48:57] | <EugenMayer> | -- |
| [22:48:57] | <EugenMayer> | ll /etc/php5/cli/conf.d/ | grep mysqli |
| [22:48:57] | <EugenMayer> | -rw------- 1 eugen eugen 57 2010-01-07 00:03 mysqli.ini |
| [22:49:20] | <EugenMayer> | extension=mysqli.so |
| [22:49:27] | * EugenMayer has a bad day |
| [22:51:43] | <EugenMayer> | intersting, if i change the db type to "mysql" i get the same message |
| [22:52:14] | <parsingphase> | what was the error? |
| [22:53:09] | <EugenMayer> | mysql extension for PHP is not installed. Check your php.ini to see how you can enable it. [bootstrap] |
| [22:53:09] | <EugenMayer> | [0.1 sec, 10.67 MB] |
| [22:53:13] | <EugenMayer> | same with mysqli |
| [22:53:18] | <parsingphase> | on cli? |
| [22:53:23] | <EugenMayer> | jap |
| [22:53:26] | <EugenMayer> | using the aegir user |
| [22:53:49] | <parsingphase> | php -i find it? |
| [22:53:58] | <EugenMayer> | usign |
| [22:53:59] | <EugenMayer> | drush "@hostmaster" hosting-dispatch --debug --verbose |
| [22:54:40] | <EugenMayer> | parsingphase: very interesting |
| [22:54:46] | <EugenMayer> | php -i | grep mysql as root has the drivers |
| [22:54:51] | <EugenMayer> | as aegir user it does not |
| [22:54:55] | <EugenMayer> | what the heck is that? |
| [22:55:34] | <EugenMayer> | "user specific php configuration" ?: ) |
| [22:55:37] | <parsingphase> | chmod a+w mysqli.ini ? |
| [22:55:40] | <parsingphase> | erm a+r |
| [22:56:14] | <EugenMayer> | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 122864 2009-10-23 18:35 mysqli.so |
| [22:56:14] | <EugenMayer> | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 55216 2009-10-23 18:35 mysql.so |
| [22:56:26] | <parsingphase> | EugenMayer: ll /etc/php5/cli/conf.d/ | grep mysqli |
| [22:56:27] | <parsingphase> | [11:48] EugenMayer: -rw------- 1 eugen eugen 57 2010-01-07 00:03 mysqli.ini |
| [22:56:32] | <parsingphase> | that one ? |
| [22:56:41] | <EugenMayer> | arg |
| [22:57:00] | <EugenMayer> | AH! |
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| [22:57:15] | <EugenMayer> | omg i reinstalled that ubuntu and copied the /etc/php5 folder |
| [22:57:24] | <EugenMayer> | and it has been owned by my desktop user... |
| [22:57:31] | * EugenMayer facepalms 40x |
| [22:59:27] | <EugenMayer> | parsingphase++ |
| [22:59:28] | <EugenMayer> | ! |
| [22:59:31] | <parsingphase> | heh |
| [22:59:35] | <EugenMayer> | You saved my day, really |
| [23:00:17] | <parsingphase> | eh, I suspect I'm going to be very grateful for the stuff you've written, so glad I could return the favour in a small way... |
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| [23:07:14] | <adrinux> | irc++ =D |
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| [23:10:16] | <parsingphase> | yus |
| [23:29:12] | <hefring> | community => Remote server install confusing problem => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/265 |
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| [00:08:54] | <shrop> | Any reason to not use remote www and mysql servers with Aegir with 0.4-beta2 at this point? |
| [00:18:24] | <adrinux> | does the delete all your files bug on remote servers still exist in 0.4-beta2? |
| [00:18:44] | <adrinux> | 'cos that would be the main problem shrop |
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| [00:19:34] | <adrinux> | shrop read known issues at http://community.aegirproject.org/0.4-beta2 |
| [00:20:22] | <shrop> | adrinux: Thanks. I was reading about that in the release notes. Sounds like mig5 may have fixed it. I may stick with a simple setup for now. I guess you can always add remotes at anytime later :) |
| [00:20:38] | <adrinux> | yep |
| [00:20:46] | <shrop> | Cool.. thanks again! |
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| [01:11:33] | <EugenMayer> | is it possible to tell aegir, which user is used for the apache server ( if it is not www-data) |
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| [01:19:35] | <adrinux> | EugenMayer: I can't remember…but isn't that an install time question? perhaps it once was… I'm sure it can be changed, just not sure how :) |
| [01:19:50] | <EugenMayer> | it seems to get autodetected |
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| [01:41:31] | <EugenMayer> | adrinux: i just dont get how this should work |
| [01:42:00] | <EugenMayer> | adrinux: if a platform gets generated, its owned by the aegir user and group. How should the webserver have access there? |
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| [01:42:50] | <adrinux> | EugenMayer: aegir user gets added to the server user group, iirc |
| [01:43:15] | <EugenMayer> | well if, you mean the other way arround |
| [01:43:21] | <EugenMayer> | the webserver gets added to the aegir group |
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| [01:43:43] | <EugenMayer> | this would fit, as the permissions are u=rw,g=rw |
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| [01:44:26] | <adrinux> | hmmm |
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| [01:53:00] | <parsingphase> | Oh, Eugen: there's a hack for that |
| [01:54:07] | <parsingphase> | EugenMayer: Spoke to mig5 about this a while back. There should be a code way of making it work, but he's not sure it's implemented / complete / obeyed |
| [01:54:30] | <parsingphase> | EugenMayer: but you can do something rather revolting to your /etc/groups file to work around it |
| [01:56:37] | * parsingphase makes a quick cup of tea while EugenMayer wakes up |
| [01:57:30] | <EugenMayer> | hmm |
| [01:57:53] | <parsingphase> | EugenMayer: is your slave platform a different distro from the master? |
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| [01:58:22] | <EugenMayer> | they are the same currently, its one machine |
| [01:58:26] | <parsingphase> | oh |
| [01:58:29] | <parsingphase> | what distro? |
| [01:58:42] | <parsingphase> | and what's the httpd groupname? |
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| [02:02:12] | <EugenMayer> | my desktop is ubuntu |
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| [02:02:25] | <EugenMayer> | httpd runs under my desktop user, so not www-data |
| [02:02:53] | <parsingphase> | oh |
| [02:02:57] | <parsingphase> | hack won't work then |
| [02:03:08] | <EugenMayer> | its just a test-env here so i can develop |
| [02:03:30] | <parsingphase> | lemme check the transcript for what mig said |
| [02:04:20] | <EugenMayer> | aegir just seem to not detect the group properly |
| [02:04:35] | <EugenMayer> | eventhough the method should do it |
| [02:04:43] | <parsingphase> | my recollection is it's just locked to 'apache' |
| [02:05:16] | <parsingphase> | mig5 said it might not use the detected/stored groupname |
| [02:07:38] | <parsingphase> | if it's running as a group that doesn't exist, you can "alias" it in /etc/group, but that trick won't work if it's an existing user |
| [02:08:07] | <parsingphase> | one option is to make your desktop user's primary group the web group, I suppose |
| [02:08:07] | <EugenMayer> | i see |
| [02:08:18] | <EugenMayer> | jap that the what i do |
| [02:08:24] | <EugenMayer> | now |
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| [02:09:24] | <parsingphase> | actually doesn't apache take its run group from its config? |
| [02:10:06] | <parsingphase> | http://serverfault.com/questions/112591/apache2-run-apache-as-the-users-... |
| [02:10:46] | <parsingphase> | I assume it's actually trying to do a chgrp apache? |
| [02:11:06] | <EugenMayer> | no it works |
| [02:11:13] | <parsingphase> | ah, cool |
| [02:11:34] | <EugenMayer> | *now |
| [02:11:46] | <EugenMayer> | but i cant deploy the site currenly |
| [02:12:01] | <EugenMayer> | actually the "drupal" profile should always work, doesnt it? |
| [02:12:12] | <parsingphase> | not on all distros |
| [02:12:18] | <parsingphase> | some strip it out |
| [02:12:38] | <parsingphase> | so what happens when you deploy? |
| [02:13:03] | <EugenMayer> | well it works but when it trys to send an email |
| [02:13:13] | <EugenMayer> | it cant ( not configured MTA here, but thats fixable ) |
| [02:13:19] | <parsingphase> | oh |
| [02:13:21] | <EugenMayer> | and then it cant bootstrap the installation somehow |
| [02:14:00] | <parsingphase> | might still be the group issue, had something very similar |
| [02:14:15] | <parsingphase> | can you find a chgrp line in the script's output? |
| [02:14:22] | <EugenMayer> | http://pastebin.com/W52VCqy1 |
| [02:14:33] | <EugenMayer> | well groups worked all the way down |
| [02:14:51] | <parsingphase> | oh it claims to work |
| [02:14:56] | <parsingphase> | it just... doesn't |
| [02:15:21] | <EugenMayer> | and then .. drush_provision_drupal_provision_install |
| [02:15:24] | <EugenMayer> | "failed" |
| [02:15:56] | <EugenMayer> | Changes for drush_example_provision_install module have been rolled back. |
| [02:15:59] | <parsingphase> | is the settings.php file still present on the failed deployment? |
| [02:16:02] | <EugenMayer> | and then it gets all rolled back |
| [02:16:07] | <parsingphase> | or it's removed it, ah |
| [02:16:11] | <EugenMayer> | nope, all roled back |
| [02:16:13] | <parsingphase> | ah |
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| [02:16:47] | <parsingphase> | ok, httpd's running as user/group EugenMayer? |
| [02:17:15] | <EugenMayer> | now www-data:www-data |
| [02:17:19] | <EugenMayer> | aegir:aegier |
| [02:17:29] | <parsingphase> | ok |
| [02:17:45] | <EugenMayer> | aegir is part of the group and i can do anything needed with the aegir user, also the script works down and it does not fail on chown / chmod |
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| [02:18:09] | <parsingphase> | but srsly, can you check for a chgrp line for settings.php or the files directory? |
| [02:18:26] | <parsingphase> | I know this sounds weird but you're getting exactly the same issues I did |
| [02:18:33] | <EugenMayer> | well gimme a sec - i removed it all after installing the MTA and now retrying |
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| [02:18:40] | <parsingphase> | ah ok |
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| [02:19:57] | <EugenMayer> | pretty bad you cant define a site without a platform.. |
| [02:20:07] | <EugenMayer> | as it is a only a domain .. |
| [02:20:19] | <EugenMayer> | does not really make sense to the relations |
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| [02:21:13] | <EugenMayer> | it worked.. |
| [02:21:15] | <EugenMayer> | oh holy. |
| [02:21:22] | <EugenMayer> | When you cant send the email it fails.. |
| [02:21:26] | <parsingphase> | ok |
| [02:21:29] | <parsingphase> | that's novel |
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| [02:22:08] | <EugenMayer> | time to auto migrate / autoupgrade |
| [02:22:15] | <EugenMayer> | thanks for the help parsingphase |
| [02:22:19] | <parsingphase> | np |
| [02:22:36] | <parsingphase> | glad to hear it does work ubuntu-ubuntu actually |
| [02:22:47] | <parsingphase> | going centos-ubuntu was a pita |
| [02:23:00] | <EugenMayer> | well i only have debian as server |
| [02:23:14] | <EugenMayer> | iam not man enaugh to take *BSD or centos! :) |
| [02:23:24] | <parsingphase> | yeah, same group structure as ubuntu though |
| [02:23:25] | <parsingphase> | heh |
| [02:23:35] | <parsingphase> | you ain't missing much |
| [02:23:46] | <EugenMayer> | well at least BSD has a secure chroot :) |
| [02:23:52] | <parsingphase> | using centos as our live boxes are RHEL |
| [02:23:56] | <EugenMayer> | no as *deb + all other linuxes |
| [02:24:20] | <parsingphase> | personally I use ubuntu for all my own stuff |
| [02:24:28] | <EugenMayer> | i wouldnt :) |
| [02:24:39] | <EugenMayer> | are you man enuagh running a ubuntu server with |
| [02:24:49] | <EugenMayer> | aptitude udpate && aptitude upgrade -y |
| [02:24:51] | <EugenMayer> | ? :) |
| [02:25:09] | <EugenMayer> | I bet you wont get sleep anymore...and with debian. Just do it,. |
| [02:25:25] | <EugenMayer> | ubuntu on desktops is fine for me .. but on servers .. no way. |
| [02:25:43] | <parsingphase> | eh, worked fine for a good few years... |
| [02:25:57] | <EugenMayer> | (and i actually use ubunut for ~3 or 4 years now .. for 8-12 hours a day , i know it in and out ) |
| [02:26:35] | <EugenMayer> | ubunut = debian + "newer but lower quality" |
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| [02:26:52] | <EugenMayer> | fine for desktop, bad for servers |
| [02:27:59] | <EugenMayer> | it could be a matter of taste, but i rather not tend to say so :) |
| [02:28:28] | <EugenMayer> | I would love to be able to use *BSD, but after my ~6years of all day linuxing iam still crap on *BSD |
| [02:28:48] | <parsingphase> | never really used it, beyond the OSX/Darwin shell |
| [02:29:04] | <parsingphase> | still pretty flaky on anything server-level |
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| [02:38:33] | <hefring> | community => Infinite Recursion on Site Import => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/266 |
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| [03:16:01] | <anarcat> | so is anyone testing http://drupal.org/node/1033072? |
| [03:16:05] | <anarcat> | otherwise i'll just merge it |
| [03:16:24] | <SandCube> | anyone there can help me (or at least point to some examples) of how to setup DNS zones to work either for aegir and apache(non aegir) sites? I have a config already, but as I'm having some problems I want to redo it |
| [03:16:44] | <anarcat> | i think we wrote some docs for this already, didn't we? |
| [03:17:42] | <SandCube> | anarcat: where can I find it? |
| [03:18:21] | <anarcat> | it *should* be here, but isn't: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/38 |
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| [03:19:57] | <anarcat> | SandCube: seems like this old doc wasn't migrated: http://groups.drupal.org/node/16862 |
| [03:20:06] | <anarcat> | would be nice if you could merge it in :) |
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| [03:21:49] | <SandCube> | anarcat: how can I help? |
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| [03:22:47] | <SandCube> | anarcat: I mean, how to merge it there? |
| [03:23:07] | <anarcat> | SandCube: just edit the c.a.o page: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/38 |
| [03:23:13] | <anarcat> | ... and copy-paste the stuff in from the groups page |
| [03:23:22] | <anarcat> | you can edit the groups page to get the actual source |
| [03:24:22] | <SandCube> | anarcat: how to get editing access there? |
| [03:25:50] | <anarcat> | SandCube: just create an account |
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| [03:36:04] | <SandCube> | anarcat: btw, I wrote a small script to uninstall aegir. The only part that is not automated is to get rid of the databases. How to figure out the names aegir generated? Later, where/how should I publish this mini script? |
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| [03:37:38] | <anarcat> | SandCube: you should run provision_delete on all sites |
| [03:37:43] | <anarcat> | that will also delete the database |
| [03:37:51] | <anarcat> | then publish an article on the community site |
| [03:40:07] | <noecc> | anarcat: Are any of these maintained by the aegir developers? |
| [03:40:09] | <noecc> | hostmaster-0.4-beta2/includes/file.inc hostmaster-0.4-beta2/includes/unicode.inc .drush/provision/db/db.drush.inc |
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| [03:41:31] | <anarcat> | uuuh |
| [03:41:35] | <anarcat> | db.drush.inc yes |
| [03:41:43] | <anarcat> | noecc: why is that? |
| [03:41:58] | <noecc> | php 5.3 |
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| [03:43:42] | <anarcat> | noecc: could you be *less* clear here? |
| [03:43:51] | <anarcat> | i'm too comprehending life universe and everything :P |
| [03:47:51] | <noecc> | anarcat: Looking at the Deprecated functions in php 5.3, |
| [03:51:55] | <SandCube> | anarcat: I'm reading http://groups.drupal.org/node/16862#debian but it only helps to setup the DNS for aegir. To setup DNS to work for aegir and non-aegir sites at the same time I have to create another DNS zone or use this one described on this doc? Is there any doc that talks about it? |
| [03:53:26] | <anarcat> | not sure |
| [03:53:28] | <anarcat> | i gotta go |
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| [04:15:14] | <obrienmd> | omega8cc: will report on github as well, but at first glance, a wipe/reinstall w/ your latest commit seems good |
| [04:16:05] | <joestewart> | anarcat: I had totally forgotten that I had manually added an index on hosting_package_instance. Thanks for adding them. I didn't test that commit though |
| [04:19:22] | <omega8cc> | obrienmd: thanks! |
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| [04:26:29] | <obrienmd> | omega8cc: although I think it may have ignored my "N" and installed drupal commons... but it was probably just my mistake |
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| [04:48:00] | <omega8cc> | obrienmd: it will install only if you enter Y or y and hit Enter or just hit Enter (the Y is default) |
| [04:48:09] | <omega8cc> | uh |
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| [05:49:00] | <anarcat> | joestewart: cool! :) what indexes did you add? can you share it in the issue here? http://drupal.org/node/1033072 |
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| [05:51:32] | <joestewart> | anarcat: checking now. Will comment there. |
| [05:52:14] | <anarcat> | cool |
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| [06:19:39] | <JoshBenner> | Does Aegir interact with Drupal 7's sites.php at all? |
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| [07:55:44] | <spyd> | first i get a 'Dummy connection failed to fail' error, and then running install.sh again results in an error at function: drush_provision_drupal_provision_install_validate |
| [07:55:58] | <spyd> | can anyone point me to what i'm doing, perhaps? |
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| [07:57:45] | * spyd realizes the second error is happening cuz it thinks the initial site is already installed.. so comes back to the "Dummy connection failed to fail" problem |
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| [08:07:59] | <spyd> | can anyone help me understand this error on a fresh install? http://link.tranzform.ca/aegir-install-error.png |
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| [08:11:02] | <obrienmd> | Anyone know the correct way to import backups from a modern (0.4beta2, I think) into oemga8cc Octopus? |
| [08:11:20] | <obrienmd> | just .tar.gz files w/ codebase and database, I hope there's an easier way than doing it manually |
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| [08:16:04] | <adrinux> | obrienmd: using backups as normal I assume, let me find the link |
| [08:17:07] | <obrienmd> | adrinux: if you're talking about http://community.aegirproject.org/node/117 |
| [08:17:17] | <obrienmd> | the octopus user does not have drush provision commands for some reason |
| [08:17:31] | <adrinux> | oh |
| [08:18:20] | <obrienmd> | so I'm stumped :) |
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| [08:18:52] | <adrinux> | best talk to omega8 then |
| [08:19:17] | <obrienmd> | yup, will drop an issue in the github queue |
| [08:19:31] | <obrienmd> | looking forward to the day that is moved to d.o issue queues... so much more useful :) |
| [08:21:42] | <spyd> | grr.. have run through the install.sh script several more times now, and it seems like the initial database for the hostmaster site is not being created, which causes everything else to fail :( |
| [08:22:34] | <spyd> | i guess i shouldn't have wandered away from this project for so long.. don't even know where to look to track down this error :P |
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| [08:53:35] | <spyd> | hrm. so i re-enabled the bind-address = 127.0.0.1 in my.cnf, restart mysql, and the install.sh runs fine.. bizarre! |
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| [09:01:56] | <mig5> | seen anarcat? |
| [09:01:56] | <hefring> | anarcat was last seen in #aegir 3 hours 9 min ago saying 'cool'. |
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| [09:43:11] | <anarcat> | mig5: kinda there |
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| [09:45:45] | <apintorso> | There's a Koumbit writeup on Drupal Planet. |
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| [09:51:13] | <anarcat> | there is? |
| [09:51:16] | <anarcat> | where's that? |
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| [09:51:24] | <anarcat> | we have a bot now? |
| [09:51:27] | <anarcat> | hefring: are you a bot? |
| [09:51:47] | <anarcat> | seems so |
| [09:51:52] | <anarcat> | mig5: i am heading out shortly |
| [09:52:45] | <apintorso> | anarcat: This link is on my d.o dashboard. http://www.koumbit.org/en/articles/koumbit-first-drupal-clinic-january-29th |
| [09:54:07] | <anarcat> | nice |
| [09:55:15] | <mig5> | yeah i put a Druplicon bot in here :) |
| [09:55:16] | <mig5> | i was bored |
| [09:55:30] | <mig5> | and it spits out new threads from the community site |
| [09:55:34] | <anarcat> | sweet |
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| [10:01:28] | <apintorso> | Reminder: drupalcampma.com tomorrow. |
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| [10:57:21] | <gabrieluk> | woww!!!full house!!!first time here.nice to know aegir irc is busy.I will be using it for now on.Greetings! :D |
| [10:58:20] | <gabrieluk> | grape,i think i've seen you in the centos channel :) |