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[11:11:22]<AntiNSA-teatime>are you awake now omega?
[11:11:27]<AntiNSA-teatime>I think I know the problem
[11:11:35]<AntiNSA-teatime>http://thecenterofthenet.com/system/files/imagecache/45BY45/pictures/pic...
[11:11:59]<AntiNSA-teatime>I need to take system out of the path. That is killing imagecache for me.
[11:13:02]<AntiNSA-teatime>I have tried everything I could to get image cache images to work. chown/chmod/and checked the database, verified the site... migrate I could never get to successfully work.
[11:13:09]<omega8cc>mig5: I believe similar "nice" welcome message should be posted on top of http://community.aegirproject.org/ or it will get spammed by help vampires who doesn't care about comunity and project rules
[11:13:16]<mig5>heh
[11:13:24]<mig5>i see AntiNSA-teatime just did it with 'omega' :)
[11:13:36]<mig5>you need a message about the message!
[11:13:39]<mig5>:)
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[11:14:32]<AntiNSA>sorry
[11:14:42]<AntiNSA>?
[11:14:50]<AntiNSA>what did I do?
[11:15:11]<omega8cc>mig5: yeah, noticed that, that is a clinical example, funny, so I'm ignoring him until he will "click" what he is doing wrong, no other choice
[11:15:41]<AntiNSA>ok its a riddle...
[11:15:45]<AntiNSA>Im looking
[11:17:19]<AntiNSA>reading entire aegir website. again.
[11:19:13]<omega8cc>I think I will make it my signature, let's go again: Dear Barracuda & Octopus users: first, I'm not a bot, so sometimes I'm simply "not really here", second, if you *really* need my attention, make sure you are using my correct full name here: member:omega8cc, just don't expect I will scan everything to find if you mentioned Barracuda or Octopus, third, there is an issue queue on GitHub, if you ignore that fact, I will ignore you, finall
[11:19:14]<omega8cc>copy those 3 rules and paste them on your screen, just in case you tend to forgot they exist. Thank you for attention and have a lovely weekend!
[11:20:07]<AntiNSA>http://community.aegirproject.org/contact
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[11:25:03]<AntiNSA-AFK>ok filling out question on the discussion website
[11:26:42]<omega8cc>mig5: related reading: http://www.binaryredneck.net/node/175
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[11:48:30]<AntiNSA>d
[11:48:56]<AntiNSA>AntiNSA:omega8cc
[11:49:18]<AntiNSA>dearest omega8cc
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[11:49:31]<AntiNSA>I have filled out a discussion on the website
[11:49:57]<cweagans>what are the policies for using the Aegir logo on a commercial website in the context of "We use this system"
[11:50:10]<AntiNSA>and believe that the system in the url address is causing a problem.
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[11:54:34]<AntiNSA>www does not allow me to enter my site either.
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[12:05:25]<AntiNSA>if any one is in here...
[12:05:37]<AntiNSA>do you know how to remove the system from the url?
[12:05:47]<AntiNSA>I think that is killing my imagecache.
[12:07:04]<AntiNSA>Flink
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[12:10:17]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: please disable private downloads in your website to get rid off the "system" in the path, also note that Aegir hardcodes path to the files directory, so don't try to change it
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[12:11:00]<AntiNSA>I have tried disaabling the private, yet it still remains.....
[12:13:27]<AntiNSA>no
[12:13:36]<AntiNSA>it does take that out of the url.
[12:13:46]<AntiNSA>sorry cache muyst not have cleared before.
[12:14:21]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: Aegir doesn't hardcode it so it is for sure possible, unless you always used it - no idea, but if that was the case, it explains why your previous host asked you to move elsewhere, the private downloads can easily kill any server
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[12:15:59]<AntiNSA>strange. Half of my images are using system after its disabled, and otther half are not useing it....
[12:16:13]<AntiNSA>let me try mozilla.
[12:16:55]<omega8cc>you probably need to take a closer look into your files table and fix all paths there, not sure
[12:16:58]<omega8cc>anyway
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[12:17:24]<omega8cc>2 am, good night good people
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[12:18:22]<AntiNSA>thanks omegga... I will try to continue to troubleshoot this. I didnt know enabling private used mroe resources.
[12:18:31]<AntiNSA>good night and see you in 8 hours
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[12:24:37]<mig5>cweagans: i don't think we have any real policy: i don't think the logo is copyright or anything in any way. at least, i use it all over the place :)
[12:24:49]<mig5>maybe email developmentseed
[12:25:09]<mig5>far as I'm concerned the logo is part of a gpl project
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[12:40:35]<AntiNSA>If we make a site from pressflow platform, and enable the boost, and other caching modules, are there any other server configurations needed, or is aegir nginx already have all the correct preconfiguraiton for those module to be enabled?
[12:40:48]<AntiNSA>thatsa an open question..
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[13:10:22]<AntiNSA-AFK>so selectig private on file settings uses a lot of extra resources?
[13:10:42]<AntiNSA-AFK>but if you dont, people can link to anything, right?
[13:10:47]<AntiNSA-AFK>hmmm...
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[13:57:00]<AntiNSA-AFK>for some reason imagecache is not changing image sizes.
[13:57:19]<AntiNSA-AFK>Im trying to troubleshoot it now. Finially got theimages to show up.
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[15:51:25]<CIA-24>aegir/provision: mig * rc214fe6063fd / (provision.context.inc provision.drush.inc): #1016890 - a contributed fix for provision-save infinite loop when pulling options from stdin. happens to also fix cluster feature.
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[19:49:07]<yuracagran>what do you think about aegir supports to powerdns?
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[00:35:27]<blainelang__>well I am almost there with getting aegir running on my linode server. The jobs are jost not executing, I can see cron is scheduling them as I tail syslog and I can run the drush @hostmaster hosting-dispatch with --debug and it runs without errors but no joy
[00:36:55]<blainelang__>--debug tells me there are 5 items but they don't clear or execute - any ideas?
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[00:52:27]<blainelang>when I execute: drush --debug @hostmaster hosting-tasks , I am seeing this warning: The command callback function hosting_run_queue has a deprecated name. It must begin with drush_hosting_. Skipping hook functions
[00:52:41]<blainelang>I am using the latest code from the aegir site
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[04:05:38]<ghankstef>seem to be getting a dreaded: Drupal sites directory /sites is not writable by the provisioning script when trying to verify a new platform on 0.4-beta2 on OSX 10.6.x running in my home directory any suggestions not finding an answer - it does not seem to be the sites dir of the platform or the hostmaster install set both of those to chmod 777 perms
[04:10:03]<ghankstef>and ntw was adding acquia drupal checkout from git as a platform
[04:10:41]<ghankstef>& same thing with straight drupal 7 adding as platform
[04:13:52]<ghankstef>maybe has to do with hostmaster platform drushrc.php
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[04:19:43]<V1ntage>is it possible to download site backups?
[04:20:56]<ghankstef>V1ntage: scp?
[04:21:21]<V1ntage>ghankstef: oh? do you mean there's a tarball somewhere stored?
[04:21:45]<ghankstef>think so in backups dir
[04:22:09]<V1ntage>thanks ghankstef :)
[04:22:24]<ghankstef>yeah its there
[04:23:48]<ghankstef>dang can't figure out how to make "Drupal sites directory is writable by the provisioning script" even thopugh I set the dir perms 777
[04:26:03]<V1ntage>omega8cc posted an article about importing sites a while back
[04:26:09]<V1ntage>it's on github
[04:26:26]<V1ntage>if that answers your question, not sure
[04:27:49]<omega8cc>ghankstef: permissions are not enough, check the ownership
[04:30:12]<ghankstef>needs to be owned by aegir user right?
[04:30:30]<ghankstef>not importing sites actually just adding new platforms
[04:32:11]<ghankstef>I have this all setup as my OSX user it owns everything
[04:37:46]<ghankstef>some naybe this has something to do with this: hostmaster verifies properly :
[04:37:55]<ghankstef>Drupal sites directory /Users/ghankstef/hostmaster-0.4-beta2/sites is writable by the provisioning script
[04:38:09]<ghankstef>so it knows the path to sites
[04:38:42]<ghankstef>but on new plaforms I get : Drupal sites directory /sites is not writable by the provisioning script
[04:39:21]<ghankstef>so the provision verify script does not know where to find the sites dir and looks at the root of the filesystem which iwrong
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[04:54:35]<zkrebs>omega8cc: i'm running the update script (its met4physica from different comp)
[05:01:28]<zkrebs>weird, even though php-fpm is installing my site is still accessible - i wonder at what points/for how long, my sites go offline
[05:02:16]<omega8cc>zkrebs: php-fpm is in memory, don't worry, Barracuda will reload php-fpm when it is rebuilt
[05:03:05]<omega8cc>also, Barracuda disable cron for reloading php-fpm while it is running upgrade
[05:03:22]<omega8cc>so no downtime is expected
[05:05:31]<zkrebs>that's only if i'm updating my OS ?
[05:05:39]<zkrebs>if I choose to upgrade hostmaster, then sites go down right?
[05:05:43]<omega8cc>I should probably use hot-upgrade feature also for Nginx upgrade instead of just killing it for hard restart, but it is on the to-do list so far
[05:06:22]<zkrebs>omega8cc: i really appreciate the work you did for my paypal issue, i'm really hot on testing that - also, i am trying to learn how to manage sites and keep things upgraded without sites going down - customers get real angry about that
[05:06:56]<omega8cc>no, it will reload php-fpm when it will be ready, no downtime at all
[05:07:21]<omega8cc>you can skip upgrading hostmaster if you don't need it
[05:08:27]<zkrebs>its hard to say when i need it? its been 1 month, i was on the post beta something..HEAD
[05:08:32]<zkrebs>there hasn't been an issue at all yet
[05:09:19]<omega8cc>so upgrade OS only to not introduce too many changes now
[05:10:25]<omega8cc>btw, there was a kernel upgrade recently so Barracuda can run a bit longer with this upgrade
[05:11:44]<zkrebs>its been about 10 mins
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[05:13:15]<zkrebs>i have been running about 10 sites on a linode 1536
[05:13:22]<zkrebs>they are all snappy
[05:13:30]<zkrebs>with 2 octopus instances
[05:15:18]<zkrebs>i got a message about how it couldn't enable the new ssl proxy
[05:15:38]<zkrebs>I have 2 IP addresses on my main hostmaster, and one site on there is using a SSL cert, and one of my octopus sites is using a SSL cert
[05:15:47]<zkrebs>is this a problem ?
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[05:22:42]<omega8cc>no, it will simply skip creating global ssl proxy if there is already anything listening on port 443
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[05:24:36]<zkrebs>omega8cc: thanks
[05:25:11]<zkrebs>omega8cc: there' still some weird bugs going on with drupal and ubercart with ssl enabled - such as, someone adds a product to cart, it goes to cart and says cart is empty. this is when its switches from http to https. then they add the product again to cart, and it works
[05:25:43]<zkrebs>omega8cc: i am using the secure_pages module for SSL , maybe I could try another one
[05:26:22]<omega8cc>you should better configure ubercart and use https:// for the default cart url
[05:26:39]<omega8cc>and don't introduce double redirect in securepages then
[05:26:57]<zkrebs>had not considered that
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[05:31:02]<zkrebs>i tried that, and now without secure pages it just goes to a http: for cart
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[05:33:20]<omega8cc>you just need to play with settings there, it is purely site configuration stuff
[05:33:35]<zkrebs>i am sure that's true thanks
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[07:19:19]<AntiNSA>greetings room.. im trying to try to troublshoot why my imagecacheis not resizint images to their presets. if anyone has any ideas, let me know.. I mean if their are any known bugs... with nginx rewrite, or editing htaccess Im all ears
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[07:56:00]<wickwood>Hello. I'm new to Aegir and server admin, and I see in the Aegir handbook that the Aegir Install Script for Ubuntu is not ready for production environments. So I'm wondering what I need to do to setup Aegir on a Linode or Slicehost as a secure production environment. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I've been searching all day for answers. Thanks for your help in advance!
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[08:04:44]<mig5>where did you read that the install script is not ready for production
[08:04:48]<mig5>should be fine to use
[08:09:19]<wickwood>Hello Mig5, I found it on this page of the notebook: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/246
[08:13:58]<kvanderw>trying to do drush ... provision-deploy to restore a DB....
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[08:14:17]<kvanderw>getting array_keys() & array_merge() warnings.
[08:14:34]<kvanderw>followed by external command could not be executed due to an application error.
[08:14:52]<josh_k>wickwood: if you are new to server admin, you should prepare for a non-trivial learning curve
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[08:15:23]<kvanderw>am following docs on http://community.aegirproject.org/node/117
[08:15:34]<josh_k>(that's not a bad thing at all; it's excellent to learn, but just be prepared)
[08:15:52]<kvanderw>trying to migrate sites from 0.4-alpha8 to 0.4-beta2
[08:16:17]<mig5>wickwood: i don't know anything about that script. just go per the INSTALL.txt in the latest release, it's the safest bet.
[08:16:22]<mig5>and yes, what josh_k says :)
[08:16:38]<AntiNSA>I tried it in my production environment and things started falling of the wall and then my house caught on fire.
[08:16:38]<kvanderw>actual first error text: array_keys(): The first argument should be an array deploy.provision.inc:84
[08:16:48]<AntiNSA>oh wait.. that was something different.
[08:18:37]<AntiNSA>if you are trying to migrate or clone a sight, and the script keeps timing out, is there a log you can look atto see what the point of the process it was at exactly before it timed out?
[08:18:48]<wickwood>I followed your tutorial, mig5, on http://community.aegirproject.org/node/183 and the install.txt at http://git.aegirproject.org/?p=provision.git;a=blob_plain;f=docs/INSTALL... , doing a dry run on local Mac Parallels Ubuntu Server, and that installed PHP 5.3. So I wasn't sure if this 0.4-beta2 was good for live sites or not. I'm aware that the learning curve for being a server admin is steep, but you got st
[08:18:48]<wickwood>somewhere I guess.
[08:19:20]<AntiNSA>im on linode and I think its better you use debian 5
[08:19:27]<mig5>wickwood: well, agir is beta, so it's arguable how 'production ready' it is, like all beta products. and there are bugs
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[08:19:34]<AntiNSA>thats what omega uses to develop aegir on
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[08:21:31]<wickwood>I'm aware that it's all on the bleeding edge, mig5, and I'm fine with taking some risks, I just want to do whatever I need to do to run as secure as possible.
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[08:22:01]<EclipseGc>mig5: how's it going?
[08:22:44]<AntiNSA>it is a good choice
[08:22:53]<AntiNSA>wickwood gor for it.. !
[08:23:00]<kvanderw>looking at line 84 in deploy.provision.inc... the line prior is doing a drush_get_option('packages', array(), 'site'); and he array is NULL
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[08:23:55]<kvanderw>so, I am somehow fubaring the command referenced on node/117 -OR- the methods have changed since that was written.
[08:23:58]<wickwood>Thanks for the vote of confidence AntiNSA. I'll let you know if my house burns down!
[08:24:17]<kvanderw>:q
[08:25:13]<AntiNSA>my fingers are bleeding from trying to get migrate and clone to work.... : )
[08:25:35]<AntiNSA>I think if you have a claean new site its a peice oof cake.
[08:25:54]<AntiNSA>importing a site is a challenge for me, but thats just because I am damned with bad luck.
[08:26:22]<AntiNSA>the best thing about linode is there back up service.
[08:26:29]<AntiNSA>i am also new to vps.
[08:26:43]<AntiNSA>everytime you make good progress, create a snapshot.
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[08:28:20]<AntiNSA>I have had serious imagecache issues. Working on it now. THese guys have put a lot of time into it. And I think the benefit of it is the easily deplyable workflow.
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[08:29:24]<AntiNSA>why is there the red page break in mirc ?
[08:29:32]<AntiNSA>wtf is that red line for?
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[08:31:47]<wickwood>That helps, AntiNSA. I've been trying to decide between Linode and Slicehost. I was leaning towards Linode. Good advice about making the backups. I don't really understand the difference between Debian and Ubuntu, but I thought I read something that Ubuntu Server has more default security options built into it then Debian, i.e uses sudo and has no root user, or something like that. Like you all said, steep learning curve here!
[08:32:28]<AntiNSA>go with debian if you are chosing aegir go with omega she has most of what you neet put together already.
[08:33:04]<AntiNSA>she does development on debian, so its less buggy when you use it for implementation. You wont know the difference between that and ubuntu
[08:33:20]<AntiNSA>And dont be a help vampire.
[08:33:22]<AntiNSA>I am.
[08:33:26]<AntiNSA>There can be only one.
[08:33:32]<AntiNSA>:)
[08:34:09]<EclipseGc>would someone be so kind as to explain what $site_packages = drush_get_option('packages', array(), 'site'); (line 84 of deploy.provision.inc) is doing? and why an empty array is always returned for $site_packages?
[08:34:15]<wickwood>Thanks, AntiNSA, I'll do that.
[08:34:35]<EclipseGc>importing a site from an old aegir seems dependent upon this code, and I can't make it work
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[08:37:35]<AntiNSA>drush times out on me when importing the database.
[08:37:40]<AntiNSA>import manually
[08:38:03]<AntiNSA>mysql database < olddatabase.sql
[08:40:35]<kvanderw>anyone had any luck moving sites from one aegir server to another aegir server where they are NOT part of a cluster....
[08:41:35]<kvanderw>I'm following docs found at http://community.aegirproject.org/node/117 written by sime
[08:41:43]<AntiNSA>I have very big problems moving, copying, migrating. It always time s out/ never completes. I have to do it manually.. I am talking from a single site set up non aegir into aegir.
[08:42:13]<AntiNSA>I follow these https://gist.github.com/802945
[08:42:13]<wickwood>AntiNSA, what did you mean by "go with omega she has most of what you need put together already." What is omega? A debian distribution or a aegir distribution? And where do I find it?
[08:42:45]<EclipseGc>wickwood: omega8cc <-- is a person
[08:42:49]<AntiNSA>omega is aegir with a lot of tweaks to nginx and stuff you need to make everything work.
[08:43:00]<AntiNSA>aegir is more only aegir and no extras.
[08:43:38]<AntiNSA>yes, she is also a person.. but you should follow your hear t I can not give you advie what to do with her.
[08:43:45]<AntiNSA>Shes pretty cool.
[08:43:56]<AntiNSA>but she made octopus/baraacuda
[08:44:24]<AntiNSA>You install baraacuda first and then octopus second.
[08:44:37]<AntiNSA>and then you are good to go.
[08:44:55]<wickwood>I thought Omega8.cc was hosting company that used Aegir and costs more than I want to spend at the moment.
[08:45:07]<AntiNSA>everyone has to eat
[08:45:16]<AntiNSA>but her hard work is free.
[08:45:24]<AntiNSA>you dont have to host with her.
[08:45:36]<AntiNSA>you should if you have money.
[08:45:55]<AntiNSA>Im in China. I dont have a lot of money.
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[08:46:08]<AntiNSA>or I would buy rackspace cloud
[08:46:17]<wickwood>I'm in the US and also don't have alot of money.
[08:46:21]<AntiNSA>I think thats the strongets server
[08:46:59]<AntiNSA>only 1or 2 percent of the people in the world have all the money.
[08:47:14]<hefring>community => Aegir freeze/infinite task? => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/293
[08:47:14]<hefring>community => Domain used for automatic subdomain hosting: for multiple server setups => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/295
[08:47:14]<hefring>community => Web clusters => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/296
[08:47:16]<AntiNSA>we are in a war of free information. What choice you make now will change the world.
[08:47:31]<hefring>community => Override drush_provision_drupal_pre_provision_verify => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/297
[08:47:31]<hefring>community => Platforms are synced on all remote clients. Why? => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/299
[08:47:31]<hefring>community => Fixing file paths on Clone does not work (only on migrate) => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/303
[08:47:47]<hefring>community => Aegir User Password => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/304
[08:47:47]<hefring>community => AeGir Will not verify on fresh install => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/305
[08:47:47]<hefring>community => admin/build/modules Getting the white blank screen => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/306
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[08:48:13]<hefring>community => Dearst Aegir: I have tried everything, and am having a problem accessing my imagecache images. I think its fue to "system" in the url? => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/307
[08:48:13]<wickwood>I totally agree AnitNSA!
[08:48:56]<AntiNSA>when its frozen you need to go to admin/nodes and delete it.
[08:49:14]<AntiNSA>I answered that git for you.
[08:49:43]<AntiNSA>however, I also dont know what to do. I was just asking about if there was a log file so we can see the exact point it times out on.
[08:50:05]<AntiNSA>to manually complete the migration, you need this mysql code
[08:50:18]<AntiNSA>https://gist.github.com/804456
[08:50:47]<AntiNSA>sorry hefring= =>
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[09:03:43]<mig5>hefring was broken for a bit with feeds. fixed now
[09:05:23]<kvanderw>I'm following docs found at http://community.aegirproject.org/node/117 written by sime
[09:05:39]<kvanderw>and I am so borked!
[09:06:47]<kvanderw>due to deploy.provision.inc:84
[09:07:07]<EclipseGc>mig5: hey, could I steal a few moments of your expertise
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[09:11:02]<mig5>EclipseGc: eating breakfast, but shoot
[09:11:30]<EclipseGc>mig5: ok, so kvanderw are following the link above to import old sites on an old aegir (that we can't upgrade) to a new aegir
[09:12:12]<EclipseGc>kvanderw: we've gotten to the last 2 steps, but the platform-deploy isn't working :-(
[09:12:19]<EclipseGc>mig5: ^
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[09:12:56]<mig5>that deploy array stuff is a bug but should only be a warning
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[09:13:31]<EclipseGc>mig5: right, we JUST figured that out, but we're still gettinga "drush command could not be completed"
[09:13:49]<kvanderw>EclipseGc: The external command could not be executed due to an application error. [error]
[09:13:49]<kvanderw>Drush command could not be completed. [error]
[09:13:49]<kvanderw>Output from failed command : [error]
[09:13:50]<kvanderw>
[09:13:50]<kvanderw>An error occurred at function : drush_provision_drupal_post_provision_deploy
[09:14:00]<EclipseGc>mig5: ^
[09:14:44]<EclipseGc>mig5: kind of not sure where to go from here, and we've been staring at this bug for like... an hour or so
[09:15:03]<AntiNSA>Ive had it for days.
[09:15:40]<EclipseGc>AntiNSA: The same error?
[09:15:42]<AntiNSA>migrate/clone/drush import database.. endless ajax spinning.
[09:16:41]<AntiNSA>I cant see thee error code, I dont know where the log is. But on a migrate or clone / move I have endless ajax wheel spinning. I have to admin/node and delete it
[09:17:12]<EclipseGc>mig5: basically, it's not getting anything back in $site_packages, so... nothing happens cause that's an empty array
[09:17:23]<mig5>yeah but i don't think that should break it
[09:17:26]<kvanderw>AntiNSA: we are trying to do the import using CLI and Drush.... so, haven't gotten to any ajax spinny thing yet
[09:17:28]<mig5>that happens on *anything*
[09:17:46]<AntiNSA>when I import cli drush it also times out.
[09:18:06]<EclipseGc>mig5: well, the actual "do something" of that function is foreaching through $site_packages, and that's completely empty so... :-(
[09:18:14]<mig5>EclipseGc: have you tried the other method of simply unpacking the site into an existing platform and running a Verify of the platform (which kicks off an import of the site)
[09:18:25]<mig5>it doesn't use provision-deploy
[09:18:28]<EclipseGc>mig5: didn't find docs
[09:18:28]<kvanderw>so, the specific line we are trying to execute is:
[09:18:29]<kvanderw>drush @lisakarenjewelry.com provision-deploy /var/aegir/tmp/migrate/lisakarenjewelry.com-20110205.143803.tar.gz
[09:18:30]<mig5>so might be a workaround
[09:18:36]<EclipseGc>mig5: would LOVE to take a different approach at this point
[09:18:39]<mig5>right
[09:18:50]<mig5>there should be docs on that, one sec
[09:19:09]<mig5>well it's just that earlier chapter in that doc section
[09:19:10]<mig5>http://community.aegirproject.org/node/115
[09:19:12]<AntiNSA>mvanderw=>when trying to import the database per drush. I do it manually to avoid the timeout. I
[09:19:18]<mig5>but you have to import the db etc yourself
[09:19:31]<mig5>put the site dir in place on a platform, edit the settings.php if necessary
[09:19:39]<mig5>remove the drushrc.php in the site dir (or move it out of the way) to be safe
[09:19:48]<kvanderw>manual DB import will not be as much a problem as this has been so far.
[09:19:53]<mig5>delete the drush alias in /var/aegir/.drush/ that has been created by your earlier attempts
[09:20:02]<mig5>and then run a Verify of the platform, which will auto-import the site
[09:20:33]* mig5 reminds himself to just delete that $site_packages shit, that is completely useless
[09:20:59]<EclipseGc>yeah, it's made life hell
[09:21:07]<mig5>i sitll maintain that's not breaking it here for you
[09:21:10]<mig5>it only throws warnings
[09:21:15]<mig5>it happens on any site install, even
[09:21:17]<AntiNSA>mig5 = > manual import is no prob--===> can that be cauusing the migrate/copy neverending ajax spinning problem?
[09:21:29]<kvanderw>mig5: you are right... they are just warnings....
[09:21:31]<EclipseGc>mig5: it's foreaching through an empty array... it HAS to be breaking it
[09:21:42]<EclipseGc>mig5: the foreach through empty array is where the good stuff is
[09:21:45]<mig5>no
[09:21:53]<EclipseGc>or not
[09:21:56]* EclipseGc reads closer
[09:21:57]<kvanderw>mig5: it's the "The external command could not be executed due to an application error." line next that kills us.
[09:22:00]<mig5>the site package stuff is not even used by aegir anymore, we ignoer modules in sites/$sites/
[09:22:03]<mig5>yeah that's just a drush error
[09:22:09]<mig5>and drush is awful at reporting real problems
[09:22:10]<kvanderw>mig5: would be nice if the output named the exgternal command
[09:22:13]<mig5>yes
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[09:28:10]<hefring>community => Imagecache is not creating resized images. Not broken, but not resizing, If anyone knows why let me know. I will post my steps here for other people. => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/308
[09:29:34]<kvanderw>where does 'drush_log(...)' get written to?
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[09:30:45]<kvanderw>mig5: the error message comes from backend.inc - and executes a drush_log() just prior to the failure...
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[09:41:35]<AntiNSA>hefring===> I am troubleshooting that exact issue right now
[09:41:44]<AntiNSA>imagecache
[09:42:37]<AntiNSA>I have tried setting permissions, and now I am uninstalling disabling and reenabling the imageapi and image gd2 module
[09:42:45]<mig5>AntiNSA: hefring is a bot...
[09:42:52]<mig5>just reporting new threads on the community site as they appear
[09:42:56]<AntiNSA>doooo!
[09:43:09]<AntiNSA>ok thanks
[09:43:23]<AntiNSA>its a bood bot
[09:43:26]<AntiNSA>good
[09:44:47]<mig5>kvanderw: EclipseGc: looks like anarcat reproduced your issue http://drupal.org/node/1001620#comment-3850374
[09:44:55]<mig5>i could never reproduce it
[09:44:57]* EclipseGc looks
[09:45:16]* kvanderw looking
[09:45:50]<mig5>i trust you ran it with --debug too, but i don't expect drush will report anything more verbose. that's why i recommend doing it the other way (no provision-save/provision-deploy, just prepare the site on a platform and then verify the platform)
[09:46:22]<mig5>i'm close to ripping out all that code from deploy.provision.inc that tries to be clever with package comparison stuff
[09:47:24]<kvanderw>mig5: should I setup an arbitrary DB name PRIOR to the verify.... in settings.php as well as the actual restore....
[09:47:28]<mig5>yes
[09:47:38]<kvanderw>mig5: k. tahnks
[09:47:39]<mig5>treat it as though it was already a live, working site
[09:47:55]<mig5>so it's kind of a manual restore
[09:48:02]<mig5>the Verify step of the platform is just to import it into the aegir system so you can manage it from there
[09:48:56]<kvanderw>mig5: and I take it (never seen this part before) that the 'database.sql' file that is part of the 'backup' on the prior aegir system is just fine for the for restore....
[09:49:32]<mig5>yep, that's the dump it took of the site prior to tarballing it all up
[09:49:46]<mig5>you could of course point the settings.php to an existing db if it is already in the system
[09:49:51]<mig5>up to you
[09:50:08]<mig5>provision-deploy is *meant* to take that database.sql and import it.
[09:50:56]<AntiNSA>=======>mig5 there is an image cache problem. I thought it was me, but its not.
[09:51:03]<kvanderw>mig5: right... sounds GREAT in theory... just my bloody head don't want to hear no more theory LOL
[09:51:13]<AntiNSA>I have created a new pressflow site to test
[09:51:23]<AntiNSA>with no modules enabled.
[09:51:30]<mig5>kvanderw: :) so yeah maybe just 'restore' it manually, go with what makes more sense
[09:51:46]<AntiNSA>I uploaded the imagecahe and imagecache module, enabled them too.
[09:51:50]<mig5>AntiNSA: i don't know anything about imagecache..
[09:52:38]<AntiNSA>I thought it was a problem with my imported site, wso I tried a fresh site and can see the same problem on a barebones install.
[09:52:53]<AntiNSA>I think it maybe because of the htacess file
[09:53:19]<AntiNSA>which htaccess file does aegir use for the normal /files/.htacess file?
[09:53:44]<AntiNSA>is is /sites/yourdomain.com/files/.htaccess?
[10:03:08]<kvanderw>mig5: no such luck.....
[10:03:14]<kvanderw>mig5: ran the process manual
[10:03:25]<kvanderw>mig5: got the verify to run... recognized the site....
[10:03:41]<kvanderw>mig5: import phase.... SNAP! - same error
[10:04:05]<kvanderw>mig5: the external command could not be executed due to an application error.
[10:04:15]<kvanderw>mig5: looks like it was trying to run
[10:04:49]<kvanderw>'/usr/bin/php /var/aegir/drush/drush.php --php=/usr/bin/php @lisakarenjewelry.com provision-import --backend
[10:05:10]<kvanderw>mig5: bork city....
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[10:10:28]<AntiNSA>mig5 community========> is anyone aware if aegir has this setting in any settings.php or .htaccess RewriteEngine off?
[10:10:36]<AntiNSA>If so I need to juill that
[10:10:40]<AntiNSA>kill that
[10:13:18]<kvanderw>mig5: reading further down in the log for the failed import.... found reference to variables in settings.php used to manage the driver, name, password, etc....
[10:13:58]<kvanderw>mig5: I had updated the apache file with the proper values.... but this time, I commented out the $databases array and manually set the $db_url....
[10:14:04]<kvanderw>mig5: WORKED!
[10:14:08]<kvanderw>mig5: go figure.
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[10:37:41]<AntiNSA>==============>omega you said that octopus supports imagecache from teh go http://groups.drupal.org/node/84074 But I can tell you on a clean install of a fresh drupal 6 pressflow sites with no modules enabled but the transliteration, imageapi and imagecache required, imagecache is not working. When trying to create a preset image size, the sample image is created in the root of the /files
[10:37:41]<AntiNSA>folder, and no preset directories are created within the /files/imagecache folder. I have not touched or altered any settigns but to install the image cache mosule and attempt to use it.
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[10:41:05]<kvanderw>AntiNSA: don't know if I was running into anything similar... but I just migrated a site and all the images were failing.... Had to chgrp and chmod the files and folders and now everything is working.... if you can't write to imagecache folders... maybe the rights are borked ??
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[10:45:27]<AntiNSA>I tried that too... I ended up trying to use a fresh new installiagion of image module on a platform drupal 6 included with the stock Octopus
[10:46:01]<AntiNSA>and with a brand new installation I am not getting directories created.
[10:46:14]<AntiNSA>I thik it is a rewrite issue
[10:46:20]<AntiNSA>### Mon, 2010-01-11 01:46
[10:46:21]<AntiNSA>1. Added custom fix required only when using purl, spaces & og
[10:46:21]<AntiNSA> for modules: ajax_comments, watcher and fasttoggle.
[10:46:21]<AntiNSA>2. Simplified rewrite rules for location @drupal
[10:46:21]<AntiNSA> resolves also some problems with imagecache.
[10:46:32]<AntiNSA>is from the recen chlog
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[10:51:02]<AntiNSA>!seen omegga
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