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| [12:26:51] | <omega8cc> | mig5: fyi: http://drupal.org/node/1047922#comment-4077024 thanks! |
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| [17:53:26] | <mig5> | jvc26: yeah. I haven't thought too far ahead in how i want to handle building from specific branches as opposed to master etc yet, at this stage, but would like to |
| [17:53:47] | <mig5> | jvc26: that said, you could be pushing a versionof the build file to a remote branch that differs in itself from master, so maybe it takes care of itself |
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| [18:11:33] | <EugenMayer> | iam looking for a solution for the file-permissions issue under files/ |
| [18:12:11] | <EugenMayer> | I have set the umask to 022, i changed the owner / group to aegir:aegir and run verify. The folder looks fine unter then, i see all permissions ( from the log ) got applied. |
| [18:12:34] | <EugenMayer> | But all files under files/tmp/ are created as www-data:www-data with 600 |
| [18:13:38] | <EugenMayer> | in addition files under files/css cant be created, so the site looks broken. I have looked up the bug with D6 mig5 was talking about in some issue and also looked in the FAQ / docs. I even added umask (022) to the local.setting.php |
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| [18:31:54] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: are you arround? As far as i can see imn the code |
| [18:33:42] | <EugenMayer> | 2the normal permissions for files are 0644, dirs are 0755. With your suggested umash 022 it would end up with 622 for files. thats an issue, as groups cant write files, so files cant never get deleted by the webserver at all# |
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| [18:34:17] | <EugenMayer> | Those permissions are applied on files/* with some exception to tmp/ which is 2770 . |
| [18:35:00] | <EugenMayer> | we could work with http://drupal.org/node/203204#comment-2499506 |
| [18:35:31] | <EugenMayer> | and change the defauls..but iam curious if that was you intention? |
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| [19:08:50] | <grizzle> | hello |
| [19:08:50] | <hefring> | what's up |
| [19:09:17] | <grizzle> | does anyone by any chance have an svg of the aegir logo? |
| [19:09:24] | <grizzle> | or just a good png |
| [19:09:53] | <grizzle> | I'm looking for a larger version of the textmark, preferably with a trans. background. |
| [19:10:50] | <grizzle> | hefring, it's just you here isn't it? |
| [19:11:37] | <grizzle> | all those ppl logged in: either afk or just staring, blankly... for hours... |
| [19:13:04] | <grizzle> | hefring, know where I can get a decent copy of the logo? |
| [19:13:11] | <grizzle> | the google machine's bringing me no joy. |
| [19:14:23] | <grizzle> | I see. |
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| [19:45:27] | <boztek> | quick question - what does "drush @some-site-or-platform provision-verify" actually do ? |
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| [20:26:35] | <boztek> | maybe not such a quick question ... to the code! |
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| [20:30:45] | <EugenMayer> | boztek: check .drush/provision/platfform |
| [20:30:53] | <boztek> | EugenMayer: cheers |
| [20:31:06] | <EugenMayer> | verify.provision.inc |
| [20:32:02] | <boztek> | ya just found - thanks |
| [20:32:15] | <EugenMayer> | run it just with --debug to see what happens |
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| [20:45:21] | <EugenMayer> | boztek: http://drupal.org/node/1058374 |
| [20:45:30] | <EugenMayer> | i hope you are not working on that one also :) |
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| [20:46:33] | <boztek> | EugenMayer: how did you know i might be interested in that? :) |
| [20:46:48] | <EugenMayer> | well as it has to do with verify :) |
| [20:47:08] | <EugenMayer> | am i right?! |
| [20:47:14] | <boztek> | yes |
| [20:48:25] | <boztek> | i'm trying to get a deploy system working for a new aegir box |
| [20:48:54] | <boztek> | still in fairly early stage |
| [20:49:57] | <boztek> | would love to hear what people are doing - seems like out of the box aegir isn't very friendly as far as getting platform code onto the box with something like git |
| [20:51:19] | <boztek> | trying to get something setup so that i can deploy code updates without having to switch to aegir user if possible as i'd probably like a seperate deploy user that i can tighten up for security reasons |
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| [21:00:23] | <mig5> | boztek: https://github.com/mig5/scripts/blob/master/build.sh |
| [21:00:25] | <mig5> | might interest you |
| [21:00:33] | <mig5> | imagine calling a post-receive hoiok in git that builds the platform for you |
| [21:00:50] | <mig5> | even if all it does is send an email to something the aegir user can receive and act upon (i.e, run that script, silently build and improt the platform into aegir) |
| [21:00:58] | <mig5> | keep me informed with what you do :) |
| [21:01:39] | <mig5> | http://help.github.com/post-receive-hooks/ |
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| [21:03:18] | <EugenMayer> | boztek: i would not go the git-deployment way |
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| [21:04:29] | <EugenMayer> | we are just moving away from this. I have written a whole git-neste-repo deployment system which actually way like a profile of git repos and there "placement" in a drupal installation. You could add / remove modules. you could run "update" which pulled all repos inside, send you mails with diffs if something failed etc |
| [21:04:56] | <EugenMayer> | so a maintenance on git system. Pulling the master as the last "active version". |
| [21:05:22] | <EugenMayer> | you really better stick to "releases", so tags + fserver + aegir |
| [21:05:52] | <EugenMayer> | tags liek DRUPAL-6--1-0 will be packaged as tgz by fserver automatically and made available for use with aegir |
| [21:06:28] | <EugenMayer> | if you really want a git-deployment with aegir because you want to develop after deployment you better check how to build make files |
| [21:07:21] | <EugenMayer> | and dont create make-files by hand, but rather use a structered-data approach to set what "modules you need in which version". then you can generate different versions of that make file. E.g. the one using the tgz, the one using the SCM informations and pulls from git with --working-dir |
| [21:07:35] | <EugenMayer> | and stuff like this. Aegir would then rsync this without any issues. |
| [21:07:48] | <EugenMayer> | and you would have a git-deployed platform on the remote |
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| [21:23:37] | <AntiNSA> | trying to install, get error that its out of date and to go to http://code.aegir.cc/aegir/barracud a-octopus/blobs/raw/master/BARRACUDA.sh.txt and download new version, when I go there get a file not found error |
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| [21:50:36] | <AntiNSA> | ok I am using the latest version, and it says i am not using the latest version. Any ideas== Community: |
| [21:51:05] | <AntiNSA> | trying to install barracuda. |
| [21:51:40] | <AntiNSA> | from code.aegir.cc |
| [21:53:57] | <boztek> | thanks guys ... reviewing advice |
| [21:54:31] | <boztek> | mig5: my main problem is i need to develop on some older sites with no make files |
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| [21:59:36] | <EugenMayer> | boztek: well you can use drush to generate make files for oyu |
| [21:59:39] | <EugenMayer> | :) |
| [22:02:26] | <boztek> | never had much luck with that actually |
| [22:12:05] | <mig5> | i had the same problem, i invested the time to makify it :) |
| [22:16:23] | <EugenMayer> | drush pm-list --pipe > modules |
| [22:16:42] | <EugenMayer> | drush pm-list --pipe --status="enabled" > modules.en |
| [22:18:03] | <boztek> | EugenMayer: and then process the list with sed or something to add makefile stuff? |
| [22:18:19] | <EugenMayer> | github.com/EugenMayer |
| [22:18:27] | <EugenMayer> | update_feed_api |
| [22:18:30] | <EugenMayer> | update_feed_cck |
| [22:18:33] | <EugenMayer> | drush_make_ui |
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| [22:18:46] | <boztek> | mig5: i seriously haven't gotten anything reasonable out of drush generate-makefile ever ... is it me? |
| [22:18:47] | <EugenMayer> | Thats how to make your makefiles using autocompletitions of modules and releases :) |
| [22:19:07] | <boztek> | wow |
| [22:19:10] | <EugenMayer> | just use it without --pipe then, you can see all version. Then you just select all this and your done. |
| [22:19:28] | <boztek> | I will definitely try that - thank you |
| [22:19:35] | <EugenMayer> | You can register your own feature-server there so you can use your own modules in make files |
| [22:19:50] | <EugenMayer> | (you will need fserver_bonus for that) |
| [22:21:16] | <mig5> | boztek: i didnt use generate-makefile, i did it by hand (yes that's right) |
| [22:21:27] | <mig5> | like you i found it unreliable |
| [22:21:49] | <EugenMayer> | With autocompletition its very much better |
| [22:22:06] | <EugenMayer> | just be sure to use pm-list --pipe > old.modules .. new.modules |
| [22:22:22] | <EugenMayer> | and diff over both after you build the platform. That way you can verify everything is fine |
| [22:23:15] | <EugenMayer> | Autocompletion + generation helps you a lot with the make file syntax and the typos. There are typos which will fail silently and are pretty pain in the ass to debug |
| [22:23:28] | <EugenMayer> | that was my first reason to write drush_make_ui |
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| [22:28:30] | <boztek> | mig5: i see your build file builds with drush_make but when i tested a while ago i was able to only do a provision-save and hosting-import and maybe a provision-verify in between and that did the drush make for me ... jus' sayin'. |
| [22:31:50] | <mig5> | yeah you can probably verify the platform with the --makefile command it will build it for you |
| [22:31:53] | <mig5> | i can save a step there |
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| [22:35:37] | <boztek> | i just thought that was pretty cool |
| [22:35:45] | <mig5> | defo |
| [22:36:06] | <mig5> | it's the same code as when you node/add/platform and specify a makefile without having downloaded the platform itself yet |
| [22:36:21] | <boztek> | i like |
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| [23:11:03] | <AntiNSA> | omega8cc: is this just a temop problem that barracuda install tells me its not the newest version and quits instal, although it is the version dowwnloadead at the link given? |
| [23:11:24] | <AntiNSA> | temp |
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| [23:59:14] | <jvc26> | AntiNSA: I'd have thought a quick google and checking the https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal repository might tell you whether you do indeed have the latest version... |
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| [00:02:10] | <hefring> | community => Zaklady sportowe => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/342 |
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| [00:44:57] | <jvc26> | Just OOI where can I find the code for provision-save in provision? I've looked in .drush/provision/platform and drupal/ but I can't find it. Essentially, I assume you can pass --server and --web_server to the function (as these are mentioned in the platform context) but wasn't sure whether I can simply call provision-save --context-type='platform' --server='foo' --web_server='bar', or whether I had to reference them somewhere else. |
| [00:45:52] | <EugenMayer> | jvc26: AFAIK you use the aliases |
| [00:46:02] | <EugenMayer> | so server="@ALIAS" etc. |
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| [00:46:20] | <EugenMayer> | which are then expanded using drush aliases |
| [00:48:44] | <jvc26> | cool, so I can just pass --server='@alias' which will then take in the webserver and mysql server etc? |
| [00:49:29] | <EugenMayer> | well depends what is in the alias |
| [00:49:45] | <jvc26> | well, assuming the alias includes info on webserver and mysql, then yes |
| [00:49:49] | <jvc26> | cool |
| [00:49:50] | <EugenMayer> | e.g. the db-server should not be part of the server alias, as its seperated |
| [00:50:13] | <EugenMayer> | yes exactly. Be sure to know iam new to aegir. Iam pretty much suggesting by reading the code |
| [00:50:43] | <jvc26> | thanks a lot |
| [00:50:54] | <EugenMayer> | yw |
| [00:51:08] | <jvc26> | am just trying to play with a combination of git commit hooks and building for different servers (based off mig5's code above) |
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| [01:05:23] | <jvc26> | just a heads up, the argument you need to give is --web_server=@alias, --server=@alias doesnt appear to set anything... *chuckles* |
| [01:06:13] | <EugenMayer> | try to use quotes |
| [01:06:20] | <EugenMayer> | they use them, single ticks |
| [01:06:37] | <EugenMayer> | AND you need to be the aegir user.. |
| [01:07:23] | <EugenMayer> | jvc26: ^^ |
| [01:08:04] | <jvc26> | EugenMayer: yeah, I had quoted them in the actual argument --web_server='@alias' |
| [01:09:12] | <jvc26> | cheers for the reminder though |
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| [01:15:02] | <EugenMayer> | jvc26: i have not played arround with CLI stuff to much |
| [01:15:24] | <EugenMayer> | jvc26: you might want to just try cloning a site in the gui and check the log for the commands used |
| [01:15:39] | <EugenMayer> | there you see how they use the args for provision-save clone and so forth |
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| [02:12:05] | <LloydPearsonIV> | is aegir compatible with drush 4.2? |
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| [03:22:08] | <anarcat> | EugenMayer: i tried reading through #1058374 and I don't really understand what it's about... mig5 is right in saying you are firing up a lot of issues that are dupes of themselves, and it makes our work much harder |
| [03:22:17] | <anarcat> | EugenMayer: as we often says, communication is a shared responsability :) |
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| [03:22:41] | <EugenMayer> | You know what, treating people with a bit of respect would also help here. |
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| [03:23:47] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: beside that, i close the issue already. And it is not by any meaning a dupe. |
| [03:23:59] | <EugenMayer> | and yes the others mig5 marked as dupes arent those either. |
| [03:24:45] | <jvc26> | EugenMayer: cheers for the latter ^^ idea. |
| [03:24:53] | <EugenMayer> | one issue is about different gid/uid on *nix systems |
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| [03:25:20] | <anarcat> | EugenMayer: as i said, it goes two ways |
| [03:25:27] | <EugenMayer> | the other is completly unclear and mine was, see debbugin info, a complete different story. |
| [03:25:49] | <anarcat> | mig5 has volunteered a lot of time to support people in the issue queue for a loong time, for free, and without a hitch |
| [03:25:58] | <anarcat> | i can totally understand that he reacts that way to dupes |
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| [03:26:06] | <anarcat> | now we can argue about if they are dupes or not |
| [03:26:12] | <anarcat> | but they also looked like this to me |
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| [03:26:18] | <EugenMayer> | i commented on it, i explained it. |
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| [03:26:29] | <anarcat> | so we should all calm down and be civil, that's key. |
| [03:26:33] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: so you would remove the --force option of aptitude |
| [03:26:51] | <EugenMayer> | and merge it together with --purge? Those are total different things. |
| [03:26:51] | <anarcat> | ... and not attack people, but the technical ideas |
| [03:27:03] | <anarcat> | e.g. targeting me here is out of line |
| [03:27:09] | <anarcat> | that said |
| [03:27:14] | <anarcat> | this is not aptitude |
| [03:27:16] | <anarcat> | this is drupal |
| [03:27:18] | <anarcat> | and aegir |
| [03:27:22] | <anarcat> | and also |
| [03:27:29] | <anarcat> | to follow your analogy |
| [03:27:51] | <anarcat> | when you aptitude --purge, you don't remove /var/log/aptitude.log |
| [03:27:57] | <anarcat> | you remove the config files |
| [03:28:02] | <anarcat> | and i think that delete does that |
| [03:28:09] | <EugenMayer> | no it does not |
| [03:28:11] | <anarcat> | i am not sure what --force does in aptitude |
| [03:28:23] | <EugenMayer> | "nodes" are _not_ a log. this would be madness. thats whatchdog |
| [03:28:27] | <anarcat> | EugenMayer: okay, can you point me to that issue again? maybe i misunderstood something |
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| [03:29:01] | <anarcat> | EugenMayer: nodes are logs. sorry. that you think it's "madness" is not what i consider constructive criticism |
| [03:29:15] | <anarcat> | again, please calm down |
| [03:29:18] | <EugenMayer> | aptitude --pruge removes anything, configs and all leftovers. The package has "never been on this system". The removal of the package is logged. Thats great, fine and intended |
| [03:30:01] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: Well you guys dont use CCK because of perfomance and use nodes for logging. How should i dont get confused by this |
| [03:30:02] | <anarcat> | yes |
| [03:30:26] | <EugenMayer> | When you delete a platform, and you leave over the nodes _and all its task_...the _only_ thing you can do with the leftovers is |
| [03:30:27] | <anarcat> | so to carry on the analogy |
| [03:30:43] | <EugenMayer> | "who did it". You cannot revert it ( that would be a good reason keeping the nodes ) |
| [03:30:55] | <EugenMayer> | as all files, config files and everything else got deleted. |
| [03:31:04] | <EugenMayer> | (for sites, also the DB) |
| [03:31:07] | <anarcat> | the delete task in the frontend removes anything, config files and all leftover. the platform "never been on this system." the removal of the package is logged (in the task log). that's great, fine and intended |
| [03:31:20] | <EugenMayer> | its not only in the task |
| [03:31:28] | <EugenMayer> | the platform node is not removed, neither the site node |
| [03:31:35] | <EugenMayer> | try to create a site test.tld |
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| [03:31:41] | <EugenMayer> | delete it. And then create it again. |
| [03:31:50] | <EugenMayer> | delete -> the "UI" delete. |
| [03:32:53] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: iam fine with logging "somehow" that a platform got deleted by X. But leaving 1 (main entity) + X ( tasks related) in the system for only this reason is not useful. |
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| [03:33:42] | <EugenMayer> | you got at minimum 3 entities for ever deleted platform / site. the node itself, the verify task, the delete ask |
| [03:34:37] | <omega8cc> | EugenMayer: the delete task "fails" to delete the site or the platform files *only* when *you* failed to set correct permissions there on some module/theme etc, so aegir user can not delete everything correctly, so I don't think it is Aegir job to "purge" what *can't* be purged, unless you are root. |
| [03:35:04] | <EugenMayer> | but really, i dont care to much here. If you dont like the idea, just close the issue / fr and iam fine. I will implement it anyway, as i can use form alter here, i dont mind it implementing it as contrib |
| [03:35:11] | <anarcat> | alright, sorry, got distracted in the office |
| [03:35:12] | <anarcat> | so |
| [03:35:33] | <anarcat> | 11:33:42 <EugenMayer> you got at minimum 3 entities for ever deleted platform / site. the node itself, the verify task, the delete ask |
| [03:35:41] | <anarcat> | basically, that is correct, this is by design |
| [03:35:44] | <anarcat> | it's the way we do logging |
| [03:36:01] | <anarcat> | if you want to trash the nodes and all the related entities when you delete an object, you'll have to rethink how we do logging |
| [03:36:02] | <EugenMayer> | Yeah and not using CCK for perfomance reasons. Really.. |
| [03:36:32] | <anarcat> | because that means that you would drop *all* logs when you delete the object (because you would trash the node and the tasks) |
| [03:36:43] | <anarcat> | so in effect, you are proposing that we rewrite the whole logging system |
| [03:36:52] | <anarcat> | which i am not confortable with at this stage of development |
| [03:36:55] | <EugenMayer> | No, only if you delete a object completly. |
| [03:37:09] | <anarcat> | but we are always opened to suggestions of new designs... |
| [03:37:12] | <anarcat> | also |
| [03:37:14] | <anarcat> | 11:36:02 <EugenMayer> Yeah and not using CCK for perfomance reasons. Really.. |
| [03:37:19] | <anarcat> | maybe you could expand on that? |
| [03:37:37] | <EugenMayer> | Well you use _nodes_ and the whole slow nodeapi for log entries |
| [03:37:43] | <anarcat> | i am a bit frustrated by those snarky comments that seem to serve no apparent purpose than to troll us |
| [03:37:54] | <EugenMayer> | and then skip CCK implementations because of performance. that is kind of argumentation i cant follow |
| [03:38:14] | <anarcat> | where did you read we ditched cck because of performance? |
| [03:38:18] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: well iam pissed. And no iam not trolling. |
| [03:38:24] | <EugenMayer> | omega8cc: told me |
| [03:38:55] | <anarcat> | EugenMayer: you being pissed doesn't give you the right to piss on us. |
| [03:39:06] | <anarcat> | EugenMayer: i think omega8cc's comment is not quite accurate |
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| [03:39:17] | <anarcat> | we used to use CCk |
| [03:39:33] | <anarcat> | it was really complicated, and we had to attach that data to nodes anyways |
| [03:39:45] | <anarcat> | it was also an additionnaly dependency, one more moving target to maintain |
| [03:39:54] | <anarcat> | so Vertice dropped that in the early development days |
| [03:40:04] | <anarcat> | i do believe it improves performance too |
| [03:40:15] | <anarcat> | but i understand that can be debated |
| [03:40:54] | <anarcat> | so |
| [03:41:04] | <anarcat> | you need to understand we've been working on this project for more than 3 years now |
| [03:41:15] | <anarcat> | you can't just come in and say it's all shit and wrong |
| [03:41:15] | <EugenMayer> | (17:38:55) anarcat: EugenMayer: you being pissed doesn't give you the right to piss on us. <- well to comment on this, the way you get treated is just the way you treat. Iam not new to drupal, not new to those kind of development. But hey, the whole process here is so over-complicated and then people really tend to say "RTFM". |
| [03:41:48] | <anarcat> | i don't think i have pissed on you or have been offensive to you in any way. |
| [03:41:50] | <EugenMayer> | There is the issue-queue on d.o, there is code on g.ap.o , there are docs on c.ap.o. |
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| [03:42:23] | <anarcat> | EugenMayer: is there anything else i can do for you today? |
| [03:42:33] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: no you havent. Iam appolgizing that you kind of being my punchball .osrry. |
| [03:42:52] | <omega8cc> | anarcat EugenMayer: ah right, my comment is unrelated in this context, sorry |
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| [03:45:55] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: if you kind of still have patience, you could review http://drupal.org/node/1057736 |
| [03:46:04] | <EugenMayer> | Could be usefull to have it in rc1 |
| [03:46:26] | <EugenMayer> | i just retagged it, it was still tagged as a docu bug - but it is not |
| [03:46:47] | <anarcat> | EugenMayer: treating me as your punchball will certainly not help me in reviewing your patches. but i always try to review all "needs review" before a release and I will also process yours |
| [03:47:20] | <omega8cc> | noecc: btw, Aegir head is now compatible with Drush 4/5/head - http://drupal.org/node/1047922#comment-4077024 |
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| [03:48:29] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: its kind of hard for me to create patches at this time |
| [03:49:25] | <EugenMayer> | it was even really hard for this simple SSL issue. to get the archticture of drush on that drushrc level, working with the durshrc aliases and then getting into provision itself, which is highly encapsulated and surely has an enormous callstack you have to get through |
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| [03:54:14] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: your comment on the cluster issue was exactly what i was looking for, thanks! |
| [03:55:40] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: my pleasure! :) |
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| [03:57:18] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: i commented on that SSL issue, not sure i should reset the status |
| [03:57:36] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: if you have questions, you migh better ask here . Could be easier |
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| [04:17:05] | <omega8cc> | bbl |
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| [04:48:25] | <hefring> | community => Migrating the community site to a new server on monday feb 14h 16h00 EST (-0500) => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/343 |
| [04:48:25] | <hefring> | community => Clone and Migrate popups are very sloooowwww in beta2 => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/344 |
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| [06:52:44] | <dev001> | Hi. how do I prevent a 'drush up' from executing "Executing: svn info ..." & "Executing: bzr root ..." and pulling updates from svn/bzr repos? my modules are installed from tarballs, and I'd like to just have 'drush up' update from tartballs, too. |
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| [07:03:08] | <EugenMayer> | dev001: well i think thats rather a feature command, not drush core |
| [07:03:53] | <EugenMayer> | oh well now, could work actually. But the module need a entry which "server" does have the update feed...not sure this is staticly build into drush for drupal.org modules |
| [07:06:31] | <dev001> | EugenMayer: hi. sry, confused by your reply. i just want drush to _stop_ using sources other than the tarballs. it *used* to work that way; something changed. i'm stumped what/whay, atm. |
| [07:07:15] | <EugenMayer> | well actually if its a repo, so the type is scp, it will update by pulling from the repo |
| [07:08:09] | <EugenMayer> | if its not, it will check in the .info to see if there is a point to the project release feed, which hold the latest recommonded release ( which can be downloaded, as the tgz url is listed there ) |
| [07:08:38] | <EugenMayer> | for drupal.org modules ( so when no fserver url is in the info ) this should be the default case, so check update.durpal.org ... |
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| [07:13:02] | <dev001> | EugenMayer: atm this happens for ALL my modules. ALL have been installed via tarball only, and @ an available tarball update, 'drush up' insists on pulling from a repo (svn, bzr, or otherwise) |
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| [07:18:34] | <EugenMayer> | dev001: well then thars a bug :) |
| [07:18:38] | <EugenMayer> | check the issue queues |
| [07:18:56] | <EugenMayer> | n8 |
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| [10:36:49] | <mig5> | ooh, I copped some flack as we say, overnight :) |
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| [10:57:59] | <eft_> | mig5: how so? |
