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| [11:12:26] | <skwashd> | mig5: it is closer to d7 style |
| [11:12:44] | <skwashd> | it would be good if the .info could also be used as a .make |
| [11:12:57] | <skwashd> | btw i know q0rban |
| [11:13:14] | <skwashd> | he works for lullabot |
| [11:13:20] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [11:14:46] | <skwashd> | mig5: it would be nice to just pass around a single file to build platforms |
| [11:15:07] | <mig5> | you can, it's a stub/build file :) |
| [11:15:34] | <skwashd> | mig5: yes ... but know what i mean :P |
| [11:16:02] | <mig5> | http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf2seuctNK1qcjrs8.png |
| [11:16:20] | <skwashd> | mig5: GFY! |
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| [11:53:03] | <lukus> | hi - I know this isn't really aegir, but on the off-chance anyone knows - should I switch off the standard cache if I use boost? |
| [11:53:20] | <realityloop> | any thought/reccomendations on using Squeeze for an Aegir box? |
| [11:55:36] | <boztek> | lukus: i'm not sure but off top of head i'm thinking it shouldn't matter if drupal uses standard cache as boost is "in front" anyway - but i could be wrong |
| [11:55:50] | <lukus> | ah okay |
| [11:55:52] | <lukus> | thanks |
| [11:56:06] | <lukus> | it's working - I was just wondering if I'm doing something wrong |
| [11:56:45] | <boztek> | i don't use boost so keep that in mind - i'm assuming you're on shared hosting with that site? |
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| [12:00:21] | <lukus> | nope - I'm on my own |
| [12:00:24] | <lukus> | (vps) |
| [12:00:29] | <lukus> | boztek, ^ |
| [12:00:49] | <boztek> | you should probably look into varnish then yeah? |
| [12:00:52] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | hey boztek have you switched to aegir from pantheon commpletely? |
| [12:00:59] | <boztek> | and memcached |
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| [12:01:15] | <boztek> | AntiNSA: i don't use pantheon for anything production |
| [12:01:30] | <lukus> | boztek, indeed .. I'm using memcached / apc and php-fpm |
| [12:01:34] | <AntiNSA> | did you find aegir faster ? |
| [12:01:34] | <hefring> | AntiNSA: 11 hours 14 min ago <skwashd> tell AntiNSA if they are site specific use sites/<domain>/modules ... if they are more generically useful use sites/all/modules |
| [12:01:38] | <boztek> | and i'm interested in pantheon more for the fabric and performance stuff - not the site management stuff |
| [12:02:00] | <lukus> | no varnish yet |
| [12:02:14] | <AntiNSA> | I agree with you definately... |
| [12:02:19] | <AntiNSA> | BUT |
| [12:02:23] | <AntiNSA> | what about the speed |
| [12:02:53] | <AntiNSA> | I havent gotten aegir to work completely tweaked out... pantheon flies but always gets stuffed up. |
| [12:03:23] | <lukus> | is pantheon a competitor to aegir? |
| [12:03:27] | <AntiNSA> | Aegir is definately more stable. Todasy will be the day I tweak it out and see what it ccan do. |
| [12:03:28] | <lukus> | does it try to do the same thing? |
| [12:03:59] | <skwashd> | pantheon vs aegir isn't a fair comparison |
| [12:04:21] | <skwashd> | setting up varnish and memcached on any site will help things |
| [12:08:51] | <skwashd> | pantheon is for managing 1 big site ... aegir is for managing many sites |
| [12:09:52] | <AntiNSA> | is there a good link for workflow --->dev ---Live? I am opening to my students, and would like to have a dev that when merged with a live site doesnt lose my students newly created nodes.... if there is an aegir specific workflow Id love to learn about it now. |
| [12:13:38] | <skwashd> | AntiNSA: if you want to be able to reliably move content between sites check out http://buyaline.drupalgardens.com |
| [12:13:49] | <skwashd> | you need a working UUID solution and content packaging |
| [12:13:59] | <skwashd> | think features for content |
| [12:14:03] | <AntiNSA> | is that something profiler is meant to do? I am eagerliy trying to figure it out if so; |
| [12:14:38] | <AntiNSA> | ok |
| [12:14:47] | <AntiNSA> | Im taking notes. thanks |
| [12:16:00] | <realityloop> | skwashd: argh.. gst :/ |
| [12:16:48] | <skwashd> | realityloop: sorry ... can't do much about that |
| [12:17:08] | <skwashd> | it is my business PP acct ,... and so pp insist on charging GST |
| [12:17:17] | <skwashd> | realityloop: if you're registered for GST claim it back |
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| [12:19:09] | <realityloop> | skwashd: check your email |
| [12:19:42] | <skwashd> | realityloop: didn't work - try again ;) |
| [12:19:47] | <lukus> | boost really does make quite a difference |
| [12:19:49] | <skwashd> | thanks a lot! :) |
| [12:19:50] | <lukus> | i'm impressed |
| [12:19:54] | <realityloop> | skwashd: nice try ;) |
| [12:20:13] | <omega8cc> | skwashd: what you think about http://drupal.org/project/deploy ? haven't try it yet, is it something following UUID/features etc design somehow? |
| [12:20:33] | <skwashd> | omega8cc: there are a few solutions which is partially like |
| [12:20:47] | <skwashd> | I'm hoping to catch up with most of the "content packaging" crew in Chicago |
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| [12:22:27] | <skwashd> | back to the salt mine for me |
| [12:23:34] | <omega8cc> | skwashd: sounds exciting! merging this stuff with Aegir, Profiler and Drush would make a *big* difference |
| [12:25:19] | <AntiNSA> | +1 (Awesomely awaiting for that) |
| [12:27:00] | <skwashd> | omega8cc: it is ... AntiNSA read the site about how to make it happen :) |
| [12:28:04] | <omega8cc> | skwashd: you have no choice, you must be there :p |
| [12:30:05] | <EclipseGc> | what stuff are we merging with aegir, profiler and drush? |
| [12:39:08] | <omega8cc> | EclipseGc: "working UUID solution and content packaging, think features for content" - by skwashd |
| [12:40:07] | <EclipseGc> | omega8cc: ooh... should REALLY discuss with hejrocker and merlinofchaos |
| [12:40:34] | <skwashd> | EclipseGc: already been talking to heyrocker about it |
| [12:40:38] | <EclipseGc> | skwashd: ^ I know they've been looking at uuid based solutions going forward, and I'm certain benefit could be had on both sides solution wise |
| [12:40:45] | <EclipseGc> | skwashd: awesome |
| [12:40:54] | <skwashd> | haven't met merlinofchaos ... i hope to meet him in Chicago |
| [12:41:02] | <skwashd> | hence the whole buyaline thing to get me there |
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| [12:41:18] | <skwashd> | EclipseGc: i spoke to dries about it at DDU too |
| [12:41:27] | <omega8cc> | EclipseGc: yep, so we have to make that happen, skwashd must be in Chicago and he will be |
| [12:42:15] | <EclipseGc> | skwashd: merlin won't be in Chicago |
| [12:51:03] | <skwashd> | EclipseGc: ah really? :( |
| [12:51:20] | <EclipseGc> | skwashd: yup, things just aren't working out for him to be there |
| [12:52:28] | <skwashd> | :( |
| [12:54:23] | <AntiNSA> | dont be down, internet breaks boundries |
| [12:56:31] | <skwashd> | AntiNSA: only to a certain degree ... if it was completely true we'd all end up like that bruce willis movie |
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| [13:06:05] | <hefring> | community => ascii characters fill page => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/346 |
| [13:13:31] | <mig5> | christ |
| [13:16:10] | <anarcat> | hey mig5 |
| [13:16:10] | <hefring> | anarcat: 15 hours 3 min ago <mig5> tell anarcat http://drupal.org/node/1041386#comment-4083504 |
| [13:16:16] | <anarcat> | ugh |
| [13:16:16] | <anarcat> | work |
| [13:16:44] | <anarcat> | ah, got it |
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| [13:20:25] | <skwashd> | you'd think people would learn not to enable the gibberish translation |
| [13:20:27] | <skwashd> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/346 |
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| [13:23:46] | <anarcat> | wtf |
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| [13:24:57] | <mig5> | hi, i use aegir so therefore this is an aegir problem |
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| [13:28:34] | <omega8cc> | mig5: we really need some filtering on the community homepage, or maybe just change the default to not list activity, and keep it in the menu only? and then use homepage only for content we want to promote? |
| [13:29:15] | <mig5> | well, that sounds like more work for us |
| [13:29:18] | <mig5> | which i am not keen on :) |
| [13:30:33] | <omega8cc> | otherwise it will still encourage people to use it as "their" issue queue, hmm |
| [13:32:53] | <mig5> | well i've seen users do even worse in the issue queues themselves :) |
| [13:32:56] | <mig5> | lately.. |
| [13:33:25] | <omega8cc> | yeah |
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| [13:48:31] | <EclipseGc> | mig5: hey, were in Oz you live? |
| [13:50:11] | <mig5> | Melbourne |
| [13:52:04] | <EclipseGc> | mig5: thx |
| [13:54:11] | <mig5> | creepy.. :) |
| [13:57:32] | <EclipseGc> | lol |
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| [14:00:15] | <mig5> | no really.. |
| [14:00:28] | <mig5> | oh well |
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| [15:25:04] | <boztek> | Any troubleshooting tips on remote server MySQL access? I have commented out localhost binding and restarted mysqld, ssh access with ssh key is working as is accessing mysql using user:pass that i put into server node |
| [15:25:10] | <boztek> | error is: SQLSTATE[00000] [1130] Host 'li226-22.members.linode.com' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server |
| [15:26:00] | <alex23955435> | boztek: you might need to flush the privileges |
| [15:29:33] | <boztek> | that didn't work |
| [15:31:19] | <alex23955435> | probably worth an ask in #mysql |
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| [15:37:50] | <boztek> | looks like the mysql docs are missing for remote severs |
| [15:37:56] | <boztek> | its a mysql thing for sure |
| [15:38:16] | <boztek> | i need to have an entry in user table that has the hostmaster in the Hosts column |
| [15:38:41] | <boztek> | i'm doing manually to test - would like to create doc on community.aegir but not sure best practice for doing this |
| [15:39:50] | <boztek> | that worked anyway |
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| [15:53:57] | <alex23955435> | any suggestions for what os to run aegir with on a linode? |
| [15:56:05] | <AntiNSA> | debian 5.0 |
| [15:56:15] | <AntiNSA> | 6.0 is not supported, maybe later this week. |
| [15:56:50] | <AntiNSA> | omega8cc develops on debian 5 fwiw |
| [15:57:09] | <alex23955435> | AntiNSA: sounds good, thanks! |
| [15:57:30] | <alex23955435> | new to this scene omega8cc is the lead developer? |
| [15:59:29] | <AntiNSA> | 366666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 |
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| [16:01:24] | <AntiNSA> | sorry my can likes to try to sleep on my keyboars |
| [16:01:29] | <AntiNSA> | boards |
| [16:01:40] | <AntiNSA> | my cat |
| [16:01:44] | <AntiNSA> | not can |
| [16:02:06] | <AntiNSA> | ok, well I have spilled been on the keyboard smetimes, but never from a can. |
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| [16:46:02] | <alex23955435> | is aegir and php5.3 a no go? |
| [16:46:48] | <AntiNSA> | most people dont like 5.3 |
| [16:47:13] | <alex23955435> | i've just deployed a linode with ubuntu 10.04. haven't done much, should i just redo it with debian 5? |
| [16:48:50] | <mig5> | should work on ubuntu 10.04, you can always backport to php 5.2 |
| [16:49:02] | <mig5> | plenty of examples for that if you google |
| [16:49:17] | <alex23955435> | mig5: thanks, i'll stick with this one for now |
| [16:49:39] | <realityloop> | I just tested several D6 sites on php 5.3 this morning locally and didn't have any issues |
| [16:50:45] | <alex23955435> | realityloop: cool. i'll give it a run, and backport if it doesn't work out |
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| [16:58:27] | <AntiNSA> | so real quidck, are there reasons against using solr with aegir? |
| [17:04:09] | <AntiNSA> | sorry ignore that |
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| [17:16:47] | <AntiNSA> | cd .. |
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| [18:02:21] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: with your hosting do you spin up a while new instance of aegir for every client, or are they using a shared hostmaster? |
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| [18:06:16] | <jvc26> | alex23955435: I havent had any issues with 5.3 yet, I think the main issues come with some contrib modules which haven't been updated yet |
| [18:07:17] | <HaloFX> | realityloop: FYI - I have been running Aegir on Ubuntu 10.4 w/ php5.3.2 for several months on my Dev server. |
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| [18:07:54] | <realityloop> | HaloFX: yeah I didn't think there was a problem with 3.2, it was AntiNSA |
| [18:08:12] | <realityloop> | HaloFX: were there any modules in D6 that you had any issues with? |
| [18:09:03] | <HaloFX> | realityloop: Nah, haven't had any issues. I don't use Solr. |
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| [18:48:56] | <boztek> | Heres the thing about 5.3 - it complains loudly when you use deprecated (i.e. php 4) code - views 2 uses lots of php 4 and that isn't changing any time soon... That's the main problem as far as I can tell. I personally wish php 5.2 would die in a grease fire but I understand the reality of the situation. |
| [18:55:43] | <HaloFX> | Is that why Drush shows so many deprecated messages? |
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| [19:03:01] | <boztek> | halo: drush alone should be fine - at least recent versions |
| [19:03:28] | <boztek> | HaloFX: you might see warnings when interacting with a site with such code however |
| [19:06:21] | <HaloFX> | Seems like most commands come back with PHP Deprecated: at the beginning. It works, so I never thought much about it. |
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| [19:21:51] | <HaloFX> | What is the status or future plans to have automated backups in Aegir? |
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| [19:25:57] | <boztek> | current status is i believe you can trigger them with drush => therefore script them => therefore automate it yourself. |
| [19:27:51] | <HaloFX> | Cool, gotta figure that one out! Scripting in the shell is not my strength. |
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| [19:43:08] | <mig5> | HaloFX: look at http://drupal.org/project/hosting_backup_queue or http://greenbeedigital.com.au/content/aegir-bulk-backup-script-updated |
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| [19:48:13] | <HaloFX> | mig5: Thank you! |
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| [19:51:43] | <AntiNSA> | Im getting failed migrations, what is the right log to use to show you on git to try to find the problem? |
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| [20:00:20] | <markwk> | anyone here? |
| [20:01:45] | <markwk> | I am having some issues with my new install of aegir and drupal. The images don't seem to be displaying after uploading and image cache doesn't seem to work. |
| [20:02:39] | <AntiNSA> | you have to rename the site twice by migrating. |
| [20:02:39] | <AntiNSA> | then the pathes will be rewritten correctly. |
| [20:02:39] | <AntiNSA> | make sure the file system is set to public and not private. |
| [20:02:45] | <realityloop> | mig5: you still here? |
| [20:02:56] | <AntiNSA> | unfortunately I can never successfully complete a migrate |
| [20:03:26] | <markwk> | what about permissions for the platform? |
| [20:03:46] | <AntiNSA> | check your email for the newly created site |
| [20:04:01] | <AntiNSA> | it tellsy you how to set the permissions. |
| [20:04:21] | <AntiNSA> | also this https://gist.github.com/802945 may help. |
| [20:04:38] | <markwk> | sorry, I mean unix level directory permissions |
| [20:05:02] | <mig5> | hey realityloop |
| [20:05:09] | <mig5> | i dropped in a script in dropbox |
| [20:05:17] | <AntiNSA> | thats what I am talking about. |
| [20:05:17] | <AntiNSA> | they are in the readme and in that git link. |
| [20:05:32] | <AntiNSA> | 2. Chmod everything with: chmod -R 775 static/custom/nam |
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| [20:05:56] | <markwk> | Great! Thanks! I'll try that.... |
| [20:07:25] | <AntiNSA> | Chmod files with: chmod -R 777 static/custom/name/sites/default/files |
| [20:07:25] | <AntiNSA> | Rename the site (using Migrate task) to your final domain. |
| [20:07:25] | <AntiNSA> | dont thank me. Ive done that a 1000 times its the only thing I know. |
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| [20:10:02] | <markwk> | lol... |
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| [20:12:13] | <markwk> | I got operation not permitted error |
| [20:12:48] | <mig5> | use sudo.. but maybe first get a crash course in linux sysadmin ;) |
| [20:12:50] | <mig5> | seriously.. |
| [20:13:35] | <markwk> | yeah...the problem is I got space with omega8 and I don't have admin rights on |
| [20:13:58] | <markwk> | I can't really set permissions |
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| [20:14:23] | <mig5> | ok, i'm not sure then |
| [20:14:28] | <mig5> | maybe file a ticket with omega |
| [20:14:49] | <markwk> | done ;) |
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| [20:16:25] | <markwk> | well...not much of a ticketing system with them...just send an email... |
| [20:17:29] | <mig5> | pretty sure they have an issue queue |
| [20:17:35] | <mig5> | but i've no idea, i deliberately steer clear :) |
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| [20:20:37] | <markwk> | why's that? any other hosting guys doing drupal aegir-based stuff? |
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| [20:21:51] | <mig5> | dunno |
| [20:22:09] | <mig5> | i mean i'm an aegir developer: omega8cc do some stuff that is non-standard with aegir: so we don't support it officially |
| [20:22:16] | <mig5> | in otherwords can't really help you with this case |
| [20:22:51] | <mig5> | don't know of any other aegir-centric hosting providers, everyone else just does it themselves with any standard vps provider |
| [20:22:54] | <markwk> | got it... |
| [20:23:20] | <mig5> | i think they have an issue queue on github but don't know if it's faster or not than their email |
| [20:23:39] | <markwk> | i suppose i could have done that... but since I'm just one guy I "thought" it would be easier |
| [20:24:22] | <mig5> | i'm not telling you to move away from omega8, i'm just saying i'm not sure of their setup so i guess you have to wait or wait for someone else in here who uses them |
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| [20:26:07] | <markwk> | I really like Aegir... just having some issues getting my custom platforms working correctly |
| [20:27:12] | <markwk> | I suppose I'm still pretty new (4-5 months) to development / server side stuff so there are times when I'm a bit lost. |
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| [20:30:04] | <markwk> | I suppose it'll work out. Just takes time. Hate waiting..when I think I could figure it out.... |
| [20:31:14] | <HaloFX> | mig5: Thanks again for the back up info! Aegir is happily tripping along, backing everything up! |
| [20:31:36] | <mig5> | HaloFX: cool, which option did you use in the end |
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| [20:33:48] | <HaloFX> | mig5: First I tried just manually running drush @hostmaster hosting-task @site.com backup, but drush said it couldn't find the @hostmasterblah,blah command. So I figured I would try the modules. |
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| [20:35:13] | <HaloFX> | mig5: The modules are working nicely! I like the ability to schedule sites separately. I turn up the frequency on the sites in heavy dev, and turn it down on the ones that aren't so actice. |
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| [20:55:36] | <AntiNSA> | wow I cant believe I just found the issue queue in the topic heading..... |
| [20:56:09] | <AntiNSA> | awesome. Is there an issue queue for octopus or is everything the same as aegir? |
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| [21:07:05] | <hefring> | community => Installing Open Atrium in remote server returns a vanilla Drupal install. => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/347 |
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| [21:24:48] | <kannary> | Hey hefring....Yeah, that was my post. Confusing. |
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| [22:34:51] | <darthsteven> | mig5: ping |
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| [22:39:01] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell realityloop: every client has separate hostmaster etc |
| [22:39:01] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when realityloop is around. |
| [22:40:34] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA-AFK: Debian 6.0 is supported in head, read the docs/INSTALL.txt for details on how to use head version |
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| [22:42:52] | <darthsteven> | Does anyone know how to use drush make in a dev workflow? Or have any words of wisdom on the subject? |
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| [22:46:33] | <omega8cc> | darthsteven: profiler + http://greenbeedigital.com.au/content/drupal-deployments-workflows-versi... |
| [22:47:54] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell AntiNSA: Debian 6.0 is supported in head, read the docs/INSTALL.txt for details on how to use head version |
| [22:47:54] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when AntiNSA is around. |
| [22:48:17] | <omega8cc> | markwk: is your issue resolved? |
| [22:49:07] | <darthsteven> | omega8cc: Kinda meant a dev workflow that didn't mean trashing my local git repo every time I wanted to update from the remote |
| [22:53:18] | <omega8cc> | darthsteven: not sure what you mean, but I believe it should be possible if you follow some git pull/merge/branch practices? |
| [22:54:38] | <darthsteven> | omega8cc: I mean, if I update my make file, how do we push that change out to others? We pop it in git, and then another dev pulls it down, but then 'drush make rebuild'? |
| [22:57:07] | <kannary> | INteresting to see this subject matter pop up right now as I was about to begin implementing that workflow -or my understanding of it anyways- this very night. |
| [22:57:11] | <omega8cc> | darthsteven: then new platform from updated makefile and site migrate, I think |
| [22:57:31] | <darthsteven> | right... |
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| [22:57:58] | <darthsteven> | but then I lose my git history as it's a different repo right? |
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| [23:05:09] | <omega8cc> | darthsteven: no, why to start new repo for new platform? I don't think you have to create fresh repo there, why not to merge in changes only? |
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| [23:07:49] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell markwk: hello, is your issue resolved? |
| [23:07:49] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when markwk is around. |
| [23:08:40] | <omega8cc> | darthsteven: why to start new repo for new platform? I don't think you have to create fresh repo there, why not to merge in changes only? |
| [23:08:49] | <markwk> | yup...thanks...it works now... there seems to be a time lag with some stuff working.... I clear the caches of course |
| [23:08:49] | <hefring> | markwk: 1 min ago <omega8cc> tell markwk: hello, is your issue resolved? |
| [23:08:57] | <markwk> | issue fixed |
| [23:09:09] | <markwk> | images are showing up as desired :) |
| [23:09:27] | <omega8cc> | markwk: great, thanks :) |
| [23:09:47] | <darthsteven> | omega8cc: But if you drush make the platform it will be new? |
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| [23:10:45] | <omega8cc> | markwk: btw, you just help to find weird bug in Aegir - it shouldn't allow to use * in the domain alias, it should be filtered out |
| [23:11:32] | <markwk> | Cool |
| [23:12:15] | <markwk> | By the way, you have a setup for setting "development settings", I just put dev.name.name.com as a site alias and it should work, correct? |
| [23:12:16] | <skwashd> | omega8cc: apache allows wildcards ServerAlias i'm pretty sure |
| [23:15:44] | <omega8cc> | skwashd: wildcards are different in Nginx, so * is not allowed, it is Aegir bug we have to fix, so you shouldn't be able to enter *dev* as an alias (note 2 wildcards) |
| [23:16:15] | <omega8cc> | markwk: correct |
| [23:16:29] | <markwk> | cheers |
| [23:16:51] | <skwashd> | omega8cc: the first bit is right ... the latter is broken |
| [23:18:24] | <omega8cc> | skwashd: currently you can enter *anything* as an alias, it is a bug markwk helped to find |
| [23:20:05] | <omega8cc> | just curious if you can enter also http:// in the aliases textarea, I have seen this in vhosts some time ago |
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| [23:21:01] | <skwashd> | omega8cc: sounds like fun |
| [23:21:18] | <omega8cc> | kind of |
| [23:21:37] | <skwashd> | omega8cc: i'm sure it is all mig5's fault anyway ;) |
| [23:21:43] | <omega8cc> | lol |
| [23:22:35] | <omega8cc> | mig5 is our gold, seriously |
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| [23:25:17] | <AntiNSA> | are there any updates or features on the debian 6 version of head which are missing from the stable version? Any real benefits of using debian 6 over 5 for aegir/drupal? |
| [23:25:17] | <hefring> | AntiNSA: 37 min 23 sec ago <omega8cc> tell AntiNSA: Debian 6.0 is supported in head, read the docs/INSTALL.txt for details on how to use head version |
| [23:25:27] | <AntiNSA> | thnkx |
| [23:26:06] | <kannary> | hfring: earlier you posted the link to my issue..>Was it because you had a similar problem or anything along those lines? |
| [23:26:28] | <omega8cc> | kannary: it is a bot |
| [23:26:39] | <kannary> | oh ....do I feel silly |
| [23:26:46] | <kannary> | sorry |
| [23:26:54] | <kannary> | Noob mistake |
| [23:27:15] | <omega8cc> | kannary: she posts here every new post from the community site |
| [23:27:47] | <kannary> | I see that now....thanks for letting me. Just when I was getting over my shyness... |
| [23:28:20] | <omega8cc> | fyi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86gir#Family |
| [23:28:55] | <kannary> | Well, now that make sense. Thanks |
| [23:29:39] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: no big updates in head, other than support for Debian 6 and Ubuntu 10.10 |
| [23:30:42] | <omega8cc> | we are waiting for next Aegir release to make a new Barracuda release, I think |
| [23:31:16] | <omega8cc> | ah, head supports also Commons 1.3 |
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| [23:31:32] | <omega8cc> | thanks to skwashd |
| [23:31:33] | <skwashd> | omega8cc: are you still planning to automagic solr core deployment support? |
| [23:31:57] | <skwashd> | I tested my blog post again over the weekend and "patched" it - minor issues |
| [23:32:28] | <skwashd> | omega8cc: well it is actually thanks you ... I am trying to find 20 aegir related lines :) |
| [23:32:55] | <omega8cc> | skwashd: yes, but we want to embed it somehow in the hostmaster frontend to automate it even more |
| [23:33:29] | <omega8cc> | so the URL will be called behind the scenes |
| [23:33:44] | <skwashd> | omega8cc: just patch the installation profiles |
| [23:34:05] | <skwashd> | omega8cc: i looked at doing aegir integration ... and it seemed like a real PITA in the end |
| [23:34:30] | <omega8cc> | skwashd: yeah, I think we would need far more than 100 lines to make that happen :) |
| [23:34:57] | <skwashd> | omega8cc: yes |
| [23:35:15] | <skwashd> | another 20USD just came in |
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| [23:35:41] | <omega8cc> | skwashd: hmm.. that can be interesting - adding it to the install profiles |
| [23:36:11] | <skwashd> | just put it at the end of the install task |
| [23:36:29] | <skwashd> | because the core will only need to be deployed once |
| [23:36:57] | <skwashd> | you can then also call variable set to set the variables ... or include some of them in globals.inc |
| [23:37:59] | <omega8cc> | yep, that is a nice trick, thanks! I looked for some workaround/shortcut and it sounds like a good one |
| [23:40:14] | <EugenMayer> | How are you setting up the solr-vhosts? |
| [23:40:52] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell AntiNSA: no big updates in head, other than support for Debian 6 and Ubuntu 10.10 plus working Drupal Commons 1.3 |
| [23:40:52] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when AntiNSA is around. |
| [23:41:02] | <EugenMayer> | Currently the only way i think those tasks can be done is a kind of a interface (event bus) where events like site install / instal / disable are cought by listener |
| [23:41:58] | <EugenMayer> | One listener will be the solr deamong, creating a new vhost on the specified url. One could be memcache and some more |
| [23:42:35] | <omega8cc> | EugenMayer: http://davehall.com.au/blog/dave/2010/06/26/multi-core-apache-solr-ubunt... |
| [23:42:38] | <skwashd> | EugenMayer: i have it working using a solr plugin :) |
| [23:42:47] | <EugenMayer> | Or we could go the spoke-model way and carry the solr support into aegir. So set the path of the solr.xml in aegir on the server and the dest of the heads. Then solr pushes the configuration the same way used with sites |
| [23:42:57] | <EugenMayer> | Really? |
| [23:43:00] | <EugenMayer> | Wow |
| [23:43:02] | <skwashd> | EugenMayer: yes :) |
| [23:43:04] | * EugenMayer looking into it |
| [23:43:22] | <skwashd> | EugenMayer: it was the first java i'd written in 7 years or so |
| [23:43:37] | <skwashd> | Happy to accept patches |
| [23:43:54] | <omega8cc> | bbl, lunch time |
| [23:44:34] | <EugenMayer> | omega8cc: _very_ interesting |
| [23:44:47] | <EugenMayer> | so you kind of build it into solr itself so i can provision cores |
| [23:45:21] | <skwashd> | EugenMayer: yes ... it is pretty elegant in my very biased opinion |
| [23:45:47] | <EugenMayer> | but who is restarting the serveR? |
| [23:45:57] | <skwashd> | there is no need to restart it |
| [23:46:00] | <EugenMayer> | cool |
| [23:46:05] | <skwashd> | yes |
| [23:46:20] | <EugenMayer> | Well the last thing is, can i deploy configurations |
| [23:46:38] | <EugenMayer> | Its fine if auto-provisioning is using normal / default configurations. I think that limitation is fine |
| [23:46:42] | <skwashd> | EugenMayer: no it relies on all cores using the same config |
| [23:46:57] | <EugenMayer> | you can change it? |
| [23:47:02] | <EugenMayer> | manually i mean |
| [23:47:04] | <skwashd> | EugenMayer: you can use any config you like ... as long as they're all common |
| [23:47:17] | <skwashd> | EugenMayer: yes |
| [23:47:31] | <EugenMayer> | hrm, currenlty thats fine for me. But our solr instances are a bit more then apachesolr is able to do :) |
| [23:47:57] | <skwashd> | EugenMayer: pull it apart and tell me what you think |
| [23:48:00] | <skwashd> | it is pretty simple |
| [23:48:03] | <EugenMayer> | thats really awesome. Iam currently still in the roleout phase for the customers. |
| [23:48:32] | <EugenMayer> | Took me some time to create all the make files and deploy them with aegir having the old status and without migration issues ( important for my auto maintainace ) |
| [23:48:48] | <EugenMayer> | for our SaaS and demo stuff those auto-provisioning will be awesome |
| [23:48:59] | <skwashd> | EugenMayer: who is we? |
| [23:49:16] | <EugenMayer> | skwashd: not sure i happen to do it this week, but be sure iam touching it next week |
| [23:49:32] | <EugenMayer> | http://drupal-wiki.com |
| [23:49:39] | <skwashd> | ah that's right |
| [23:49:44] | <EugenMayer> | no, we are not flanking you hosters, dont worry :) |
| [23:50:00] | <skwashd> | EugenMayer: i'm not a hoster ... i'm a web chef :) |
| [23:50:07] | <EugenMayer> | :) |
| [23:50:18] | <skwashd> | my aegir stuff is purely personal and not related to my work at FK |
| [23:50:30] | <EugenMayer> | FK? |
| [23:50:37] | <skwashd> | Four Kitchens |
| [23:50:44] | <EugenMayer> | Ah! Heard of you guys |
| [23:50:52] | <EugenMayer> | nice work you have done arround. |
| [23:51:23] | <skwashd> | EugenMayer: i've just started there |
| [23:51:36] | <EugenMayer> | ic |
| [23:51:50] | <skwashd> | my first real work with them was flying solo trying to keep some Al Jazeera properties online a couple of weeks ago - was insane |
| [23:52:25] | <EugenMayer> | what is Al Jazeera? :) |
| [23:54:09] | <skwashd> | EugenMayer: some small arabic broadcaster |
| [23:54:36] | <EugenMayer> | you had success? :O) |
| [23:54:51] | <skwashd> | EugenMayer: yes |
| [23:54:59] | <EugenMayer> | great |
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| [23:55:53] | <skwashd> | EugenMayer: are you going to be in Chicago? |
| [23:56:00] | <EugenMayer> | No |
| [23:56:05] | <EugenMayer> | Not worth it :) |
| [23:56:43] | <skwashd> | ok |
| [23:56:44] | <skwashd> | why? |
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| [23:59:19] | <markwk> | skwashd: Al Jazeera, small? you got to be kidding... |
| [23:59:34] | <skwashd> | markwk: yes i was kidding |
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| [00:12:11] | <omega8cc> | FK - we make SMALL websites, for example Al Jazeera, ;) http://fourkitchens.com |
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| [00:49:37] | <skwashd> | omega8cc: exactly! |
| [00:49:52] | <skwashd> | night * |
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| [01:38:26] | <V1ntage_work> | omega8cc: I wonder, how do you update an few weeks old HEAD version of Barracuda to the current HEAD? Are there any specific areas I need to pay attention to? Can it break easily? |
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| [01:40:44] | <omega8cc> | V1ntage_work: it just works, you can update head-to-head even daily, if you like |
| [01:41:13] | <V1ntage_work> | omega8cc: allright nice, so even database changes or so are being tracked, right? |
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| [01:42:11] | <omega8cc> | V1ntage_work: Barracuda doesn't touch your databases, only hostmaster database is updated |
| [01:42:46] | <V1ntage_work> | omega8cc: ohh, even better :) thanks for your fast reply |
| [01:42:51] | <omega8cc> | np |
| [01:45:19] | <omega8cc> | V1ntage_work: please read docs/UPGRADE.txt if you want to use head, since by default we recommend to use stable version, if possible |
| [01:47:04] | <omega8cc> | and our stable is Aegir now head anyway, just well tested |
| [01:47:57] | <V1ntage_work> | omega8cc: great, I'll give it a shot after work |
| [01:48:09] | <omega8cc> | ok |
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| [02:30:44] | <EugenMayer> | anybody has squeeze running? |
| [02:30:54] | * EugenMayer hope so much ufw is pat of debian stable now :/ |
| [02:31:41] | <EugenMayer> | Did not upgrade a server yet... |
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| [02:45:49] | <omega8cc> | EugenMayer: we are running Debian 6 on some newer servers |
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| [02:46:13] | <EugenMayer> | i looked it up, ufw seems to be still in testing :/ |
| [02:46:26] | <EugenMayer> | i love that iptables interface. Its so much better.. |
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| [03:02:41] | <EugenMayer> | omega8cc: i guess you all maintain the aegir remote using VPN? Looking at how easy it was because of the public ip / private ip seperation, iam expecting it |
| [03:03:02] | <EugenMayer> | pretty good work there. Was very straight forward. I guess nobody loves having the 3306 port opened to the wild wild word |
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| [04:12:05] | <ianward> | anarcat: hey. just wanted to check-in. |
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| [04:13:08] | <anarcat> | ianward: hi |
| [04:13:20] | <anarcat> | ianward: i'll be ready at 16 precisely (and not before) |
| [04:13:27] | <anarcat> | ianward: thanks for checking in :) |
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| [04:14:26] | <ianward> | anarcat: great. I'll have the pointer near the 'backup' button at 16., and will click once you tell me to :) |
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| [04:17:33] | <anarcat> | cool |
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| [04:47:31] | <EclipseGc> | anarcat: did you get a chance to read my pontifications on D7 after you had to leave? |
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| [05:39:59] | <anarcat> | EclipseGc: yes |
| [05:40:11] | <EclipseGc> | anarcat: thoughts? |
| [05:40:21] | <anarcat> | nothing specific, i think i answered back then |
| [05:42:02] | <EclipseGc> | anarcat: k cool |
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| [06:39:05] | <hefring> | community => thermacuts => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/348 |
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| [07:06:53] | <anarcat> | ianward: i have a postponement here, how long can you extend this? can we push to 17h00? |
| [07:07:53] | <ianward> | anarcat: yes, 17 is ok. |
| [07:08:01] | <anarcat> | alright, let's push this to 17h |
| [07:08:12] | <ianward> | ok |
| [07:08:12] | * anarcat has changed the topic to Aegir hosting system 0.4-beta2 released! http://community.aegirproject.org/0.4-beta2 | Issue queue: http://is.gd/edalY | read this before asking: http://community.aegirproject.org/bugs | scrums on thursdays 2000UTC | community.aegirproject.org downtime at 17h00 EST |
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| [09:04:18] | <ianward> | anarcat: I'm here. Just let me know when you're ready |
| [09:06:33] | <anarcat> | ianward: i just arrived |
| [09:08:34] | <anarcat> | alright - so. |
| [09:08:39] | <anarcat> | ianward: what version of OA are we running? |
| [09:08:57] | <ianward> | anarcat: ok. beta8 |
| [09:09:24] | <anarcat> | okay |
| [09:09:37] | <anarcat> | we have a beta9 platform here - do you think there's going to be an issue upgrading that? |
| [09:10:08] | <ianward> | anarcat: i recently imported from one aegir to another then after import i immediately migrated (from beta8) to beta9 platform and it went fine. |
| [09:10:15] | <ianward> | on another install. |
| [09:10:50] | <ianward> | anarcat: i think it should be ok. I just imported into beta8, then migrated. Not sure if that matters in some way. |
| [09:11:25] | <anarcat> | good. |
| [09:11:33] | <anarcat> | okay, so what's our process again... |
| [09:11:48] | <anarcat> | > * Pick a time/date (done: monday 16h00 -0500) |
| [09:11:48] | <anarcat> | > * Turn down DNS A record TTL, if high (done: 10min) |
| [09:11:49] | <anarcat> | > * Post a notice on community.aegirproject.org (done: |
| [09:11:49] | <anarcat> | > * http://community.aegirproject.org/node/343 and block) |
| [09:11:59] | <anarcat> | oops |
| [09:12:02] | <anarcat> | that's the done stuff :) |
| [09:12:03] | <anarcat> | > * At that time/date, put community.aegirproject.org into offline mode |
| [09:12:03] | <anarcat> | > * Create backup of site/db, give to Antoine/Miguel (IW) |
| [09:12:03] | <anarcat> | > * Setup site on new server, make sure all's good |
| [09:12:03] | <anarcat> | > * re-point DNS to new server |
| [09:12:10] | <anarcat> | alright, so offline mode now, i guess |
| [09:12:19] | <V1ntage> | omega8cc: I'm upgrading as we speak, will let you know if anything special happens |
| [09:12:25] | <anarcat> | ianward: how big is that backup? |
| [09:13:01] | <ianward> | anarcat: I didn't create it yet, wanted to wait til the site went offline. Should I do that now? |
| [09:13:13] | <anarcat> | i was just curious, we'll just deal with it i guess |
| [09:13:32] | <anarcat> | i will now create an ftp account for you to upload the dump... |
| [09:13:43] | <anarcat> | ianward: ... unless you have other ideas on how to proceed to transfer the backup |
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| [09:14:16] | <ianward> | anarcat: I can PM you a location which will go over https |
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| [09:14:31] | <anarcat> | ianward: good. |
| [09:14:42] | <anarcat> | i am otherwise ready |
| [09:14:54] | <anarcat> | ianward: put the site in offline mode, create the backup and send me the url, i'll test it out |
| [09:14:58] | <ianward> | anarcat: ok cool. I'll run the backup now |
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| [09:19:23] | <anarcat> | alright, i've created the alias on my end - ready to import the site |
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| [09:23:25] | <ianward> | anarcat: ok, site is offline now, and backing up. |
| [09:25:41] | <anarcat> | gotcha |
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| [09:34:45] | <anarcat> | ianward: otr doesn't work well here |
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| [09:48:24] | <V1ntage> | omega8cc: all working fine now |
| [09:48:42] | <V1ntage> | omega8cc: could it be that the current stable version doesn't have the fixes for the private file system? |
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| [09:54:22] | <omega8cc> | V1ntage: both head and stable supports private downloads, afaik |
| [09:54:52] | <V1ntage> | omega8cc: ok, I was wondering because of the favicon problem |
| [09:55:09] | <V1ntage> | it returns a 404 |
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| [09:56:24] | <omega8cc> | V1ntage: if there is an issue, please submit in the github queue |
| [09:56:39] | <V1ntage> | omega8cc: allright |
| [09:57:47] | <anarcat> | alright, community site migrated to koumbit - pending DNS propagation (~10 min?) |
| [09:59:14] | <mig5> | thanks |
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| [09:59:33] | <anarcat> | ianward: keep the site running for now until we confirm the DNS migration |
| [09:59:39] | <anarcat> | ianward: runnin and offline, of course |
| [09:59:47] | <ianward> | anarcat: will do |
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| [10:00:11] | <anarcat> | ianward: thanks! sorry for the delays... |
| [10:00:12] | <ianward> | anarcat: you can email me when you think it's safe to delete |
| [10:00:16] | <anarcat> | ianward: got it |
| [10:00:34] | <ianward> | anarcat: no prob. went pretty smooth. |
| [10:01:03] | <anarcat> | yeah, that was an easy one :) |
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| [10:13:54] | <Vertice> | anarcat: community. is down |
| [10:13:56] | <Vertice> | =) |
| [10:14:07] | <obrienmd> | omega8cc: re our conversation last week about barracuda issue queue on d.o, see precedents for non-module collaboration in d.o projects: http://drupal.org/project/kit, http://drupal.org/project/emr |
| [10:15:56] | <anarcat> | Vertice: it was migrated to koumbit, refresh your dns :) |
| [10:18:53] | <V1ntage> | omega8cc: I opened up an issue here https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/issues/issue/209 |
| [10:18:59] | <V1ntage> | omega8cc: does that provide enough info? |
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| [10:21:00] | <omega8cc> | obrienmd: there are more, including drush, btw |
| [10:21:46] | <obrienmd> | omega8cc: I would do anything to have your issue queue on d.o :) |
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| [10:22:55] | <omega8cc> | V1ntage: thanks, it is something minor, but you provided enough information |
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| [10:23:15] | <V1ntage> | omega8cc: ok thanks |
| [10:24:06] | <omega8cc> | obrienmd: hah, we will see |
| [10:26:36] | <AntiNSA> | omega8cc: Im gettign ready to try this https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/blob/master/TUNER.sh.txt , can you tell me if there are any other locations I should/can visit to increase memory limit? L |
| [10:26:36] | <hefring> | AntiNSA: 10 hours 45 min ago <omega8cc> tell AntiNSA: no big updates in head, other than support for Debian 6 and Ubuntu 10.10 plus working Drupal Commons 1.3 |
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| [10:27:14] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: c.a.o moved from Ubuntu to Debian :) |
| [10:27:21] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: victory! ;) |
| [10:27:28] | <omega8cc> | :) |
| [10:28:57] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: use tuner only, don't try to modify anything manually, it takes care about everything important |
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| [10:29:10] | <AntiNSA> | ok thanks |
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| [10:31:16] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: any not listed limits are already set enough high, I think - memory for php-fpm and separately for php-cli - 256M |
| [10:32:29] | <omega8cc> | maybe we could include them also in tuner |
| [10:33:29] | <AntiNSA> | ok I tried running tuner and I get this message.. ERROR: This script should be used only when the same version of BARRACUDA was used before..... however I have never ran this script before... |
| [10:34:26] | <AntiNSA> | updatign to BARRACUDA version 0.4-boa-D-dev2 and then will run again. |
| [10:34:28] | <omega8cc> | hmm... right, it is a bug, wait a moment |
| [10:34:38] | <AntiNSA> | ok waiting thnkx |
| [10:34:40] | <obrienmd> | omega8cc: just added an issue on github regarding TUNER and memory... seems as though there could be a # of things added to take advantage of high memory servers (memcache size, redis size, innodb buffers, etc) |
| [10:35:18] | <omega8cc> | obrienmd: good idea, thanks |
| [10:36:18] | <obrienmd> | omega8cc: thank _you_ |
| [10:36:54] | <AntiNSA> | obrien: you have a link for that I cant see your post on github |
| [10:37:49] | <obrienmd> | AntiNSA: this is because the github issue queue system is AWFUL :) link coming.... |
| [10:38:39] | <obrienmd> | https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/issues#issue/210 |
| [10:39:07] | <AntiNSA> | thnks |
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| [10:40:41] | <AntiNSA> | ive got the 1536 linode, and would like to allow as much memory as possible as my site is a hog. Im working on using less resources though.. |
| [10:41:26] | <hefring> | community => Site migrated to new server => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/349 |
| [10:41:36] | <anarcat> | whee! the bot caught up with the DNS change! |
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| [10:45:04] | <mig5> | ncie one |
| [10:46:17] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: now Tuner will work for Barracuda stable and head |
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| [10:46:33] | <AntiNSA> | ok will try now |
| [10:46:55] | <AntiNSA> | hopefully will fix these 504s I am getting.. |
| [10:48:11] | <AntiNSA> | nano tuner.sh |
| [10:48:16] | <AntiNSA> | sorry |
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| [10:57:37] | <trainer> | Is there a minimum version of Drupal 6 core that will work with Aegir? I used an old site to successfully create a platform, but then could not create a site on it. I got a ton of "ereg() is deprecated" errors, so maybe it has more to do with Drupal and php 5.3 than Aegir. |
| [10:57:49] | <AntiNSA> | got a ton of errors when running it... hold on a sec... https://gist.github.com/826833 |
| [10:58:05] | <AntiNSA> | omega8c: FWIW got a ton of errors when running it... hold on a sec... https://gist.github.com/826833 |
