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[11:08:47]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: ah, found the issue, 3 minutes
[11:09:04]<AntiNSA>ok thanks
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[11:15:05]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: I hope it is now fixed
[11:16:29]<omega8cc>trainer: it is an incorrect php version, you should use 5.2 for 6.x drupal
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[11:21:23]<AntiNSA>it has ran error free this time. thanks. Is there a guide to using this script out there or faq for it?
[11:21:56]<AntiNSA>should it be ran each time server is rebooted?
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[11:32:11]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: you should run it only when you want to change anything set there, all related docs so far only in the script comments, feel free to submit patches etc.
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[12:31:15]<AntiNSA>tomcat is only for apache solr, which is not itself is not included in octopus, right? So if we chlse not to instal tomcat, can we install it at a later date by rerunnin ght barracuda/octopus install?
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[13:07:06]<hefring>community => Aegir Appliance installation gives Virtual Box network errors => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/350
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[14:24:09]<boztek>i've never seen this one before - trying to access aegir@aegir.box with ssh keys; it connects fine, prints welcome message then exits. -vvv doesn't mean much to me. weiiird.
[14:24:11]<boztek>http://pastebin.com/prbQyK6q
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[14:30:29]<AntiNSA>When you have a failed migration, due to never ending process... should you a)delete migration task in the admin node section, then b, verify platform and import site? anything else needed?
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[14:32:29]<boztek>AntiNSA: generally with failed tasks i fix the problem and rerun the task
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[14:33:53]<AntiNSA>it fails after importign a database and trying to migrate ... on a fresh new site. Womethign about migrating my database its unable to complete
[14:34:15]<AntiNSA>I wish I could fix it. Ive ran the database tuner script and found no errors with the database.....
[14:35:03]<AntiNSA>when I import ysql newdatabase < olddatabase.sql it takes like a minute or 2 maybe to complete.....
[14:35:16]<AntiNSA>I dont know if drush just times out or what...
[14:35:52]<AntiNSA>normally like Running: /data/disk/tcotn/tools/drush/drush.php @test.thecenterofthenet.com provision-migrate '@platform_Drupal620P001' '@alpha.thecenterofthenet.com' --backend is as far as I can get and it sits there forever
[14:36:48]<AntiNSA>I thought maybe it was the file transfer..... I know it compresses the files and then extracts them... so I tried only to do it with importing my database and then doing the files later....lettign everything be rewritten as needed...
[14:37:17]<AntiNSA>but even on debian 6 nothing works.
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[14:38:53]<AntiNSA>I mmean it does create the new site folder, and the new database... and moves the data. I am not sure what process is geting timed out on...and which things in the migration process are not completed. For all purposes it liooks as if the migration was successfull. However it never is so I have nothing to compare it against. sorry to tell all about it here.
[14:39:43]<AntiNSA>but when I stop the migration, there is now original migrating from site directory, only the migrated to site directory which I must then have imported.
[14:41:43]<AntiNSA>I have tried the guide to creating new p;atforms from your imported site, I have tried creating fresh sites off of existing platforms and then importing the sql to that site and then trying to migrate.
[14:42:00]<AntiNSA>So I guess there is an issue within my database that must be throwing things off.
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[18:10:01]<AntiNSA>where are the settings that used to be in settings.php which you have to set from false to true to allow the core to be updated?
[18:11:08]<AntiNSA>I need to update my core from previous site which was an earlier dev version on m y imported site/database... however I cant find the settings in the settings.php which allows me to set from false to true...
[18:11:18]<AntiNSA>if anyone knows real quick I appreciate it.
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[18:46:30]<EugenMayer>Iam not sure who had the issues with the lost of nodeaccess settings ( and also taxonomy <-> node type relation is lost). It all comes down to a drupal 6 issues
[18:47:05]<EugenMayer>It can be fixed by a trick, otherwise its really a huge issue when you migrate into aegir
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[18:59:51]<AntiNSA>god I hope I dont get that issue... havent tested my taxonomy stuff out yet..
[19:00:21]<EugenMayer>depends on if your paths will differ
[19:00:38]<EugenMayer>is you yet use subdirs in the sites/all/modules/ and in aegir you wont, you will have a lot of issues
[19:02:19]<AntiNSA>you have anyidea where the setting is to update core version? I mean the old one used to be switch it from false to true in settings.php... Im in ahurry and am searchign git now......
[19:05:48]<AntiNSA>https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/issues/issue/211
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[19:37:21]<skwashd>AntiNSA: create a new platform and migrate to it
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[20:23:48]<EugenMayer>Anybody though about chaning the way sites get migrated or it least imported?
[20:24:34]<EugenMayer>It seems like D6 has an issue when bootstrapping, when module-paths have been changed. I think this is very specific to features and also taxonomys. It seems like those things are disabled shorty, wiping the settings, and then enabled ( as found on a different place )
[20:24:41]<EugenMayer>i could verify this:
[20:25:19]<EugenMayer>1. verify a site which just has been created deletes all nodeaccess entrys and node_type<->taxonomy entries
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[20:25:57]<EugenMayer>2. copying the system table from that installation, importing it into the old database ( before truncate system ) and then boostrapping the old site
[20:26:46]<EugenMayer>In step 1 you would have issues name above, in step 2 you can now perfectly import the site and no issues are there. I can reproduce this for all websites.
[20:27:10]<EugenMayer>Just to mention, this is not an aegir issue, rather an Drupal 6 issue. But we might want to make this the default behavior.
[20:27:29]<EugenMayer>1. Boostrap database
[20:27:40]<EugenMayer>2. updatedb && cacheclear
[20:27:48]<EugenMayer>3. dump system table
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[20:27:56]<EugenMayer>4. Wipe database & reimport database
[20:28:10]<EugenMayer>5. truncate system table + reimport dump
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[21:06:33]<EugenMayer>http://community.aegirproject.org/node/70
[21:06:40]<EugenMayer>how are the name conventions for this file
[21:06:49]<EugenMayer>does it really have to be named mig5.drush.inc?
[21:07:23]<EugenMayer>i guess its drush API and its kind of NAME.drush.inc and later the hook should be NAME.. again
[21:08:22]<skwashd>omega8cc: ping
[21:13:25]<omega8cc>skwashd: pong
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[21:15:12]<skwashd>omega8cc: see pm
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[23:47:17]<boztek>Is this a bug, a feature, or undefined? Add code to platform on aegir -> drush @platform provision-verify -> code rsyncs to remote as expected; However package nodes not updated when viewing platform node in interface
[23:48:42]<boztek>Verifying a site on that platform seems to show correct packages for that site but again not in the platform
[23:49:24]<EugenMayer>boztek: did you verify the platform?
[23:49:31]<EugenMayer>ah yes you did
[23:50:13]<EugenMayer>Did you add a module to a platform which existed?
[23:51:03]<boztek>i have a feeling there is some inconsistent behaviour here ... is it broken enough for me to debug howerver?
[23:51:11]<boztek>:)
[23:52:18]<boztek>EugenMayer: yeah playing with a simple "git pull" deploy method - not my choice but has been requested by others - so the build script does a git pull and then verifies the platform which rsyncs to the dev box
[23:52:32]<EugenMayer>Well that is simply not by desing
[23:52:54]<EugenMayer>when you _change_ anything on a platform you have to create a _new_ platform and migrate the site from the older to the new
[23:52:56]<boztek>works fine but the front end is not updating
[23:53:03]<EugenMayer>you cant simply "update" the source of a platform
[23:53:17]<boztek>i know ... but it is working
[23:53:23]<EugenMayer>that is not expected by desing. You are just lucky that rsync is run every time
[23:53:31]<boztek>really?
[23:53:34]<boztek>interesting
[23:53:38]<EugenMayer>yes verify should rsync
[23:53:49]<boztek>yes - i would expect verify to rsync
[23:54:05]<boztek>i didnt' actually expect the front end to update
[23:54:10]<EugenMayer>Aegir always redeploys on verify. So i t kind of syncs all, the configs, apache configs, platform files, site settings if its a site verify etc
[23:54:15]<boztek>but read something in docs
[23:54:32]<boztek>"provision-verify : This will ensure that all the files are the correct permissions, and are all present on the correct remote servers. Also rebuild package database. Run this command whenever the contents of the platform changes."
[23:54:35]<boztek>http://community.aegirproject.org/node/41
[23:54:46]<EugenMayer>Interesting
[23:54:52]<EugenMayer>esp. the last sentence
[23:55:09]<boztek>Seems to be exactly what I want but the last bit isn't working at least for platforms and possibly haphazardly for sites
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[23:55:59]<EugenMayer>boztek: well then there are 2 cases: Iam wrong with my assumption that you need to create platform be and migrate ( and therefor docs are correct ). Or docs are incorrect and iam right.
[23:56:13]<EugenMayer>Docs are pretty well written so i expect me to be wrong
[23:56:16]<boztek>i agree :)
[23:56:26]<boztek>one of those 2 cases is true :)
[23:56:42]<boztek>i'll check back when there is a core dev around
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[23:57:03]<boztek>just want to check before i post issue and start hacking
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[00:04:58]<EugenMayer>boztek: why not deploy a platform wich is deployed using --working-dir our of a makefile and then usind drush up there ?:)
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[00:05:37]<boztek>EugenMayer: could you elaborate?
[00:05:55]<EugenMayer>instead of redploying a platform on updates, e.g. from your scm
[00:06:30]<EugenMayer>update the deployed platform on the client. I know thats not aegirs way, due to spoke model. But if iam right with the platfrom migration, thats kind of the way you should go
[00:07:04]<EugenMayer>sounds you are using aegir for development and dev-hosting.. i dont think aegir alone will be the tool of choice here
[00:07:15]<boztek>i'm not sure i'm following exactly
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[00:07:33]<boztek>but you did make me think of another approache
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[00:14:25]<boztek>it also appears that either "drush @site-context provision-verify" isn't doing the same thing as running verify on site node in front end or something else is astray with site verification as far as this package db rebuild stuff goes
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[00:16:20]<boztek>yeah - it's a front-end / back-end mismatch ... or i'm invoking provision-verify wrong though i've tried it both obvious ways
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[00:16:38]<boztek>and it seems to partially work (rsyncs remote servers perfectly)
[00:17:53]<EugenMayer>i think the frontend
[00:17:56]<EugenMayer>does a provision-save
[00:18:00]<EugenMayer>before verify
[00:19:38]<boztek>but i don't think i need to update any values in the context
[00:20:00]<boztek>but if thats all - definitely worth a shot - just not sure what to put in the save call
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[00:31:14]<boztek>that didnt' seem to work
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[00:37:56]<boztek>EugenMayer: did you find the provision-save from the front end in code somehwere?
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[00:41:49]<EugenMayer>provision_drupal.drush.inc AFAIK
[00:42:26]<EugenMayer>boztek: iam with you saying its not easy getting through this code without anything like a class diagram / data-flow diagramm+
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[00:51:52]<boztek>EugenMayer: bottom line is provision-verify in drush should do same thing as in front end no? That's what I think anyway.
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[03:21:00]<yuracagran>What is the lookup source of site IP for aegir? /etc/hosts, hosting_ip_addresses, dns? Site has a separate ip than aegir, and dns record points that, and has been added to the /etc/hosts. But still site installation getting aegir's main ip.
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[04:30:59]<anarcat>yuracagran: dns - although it's at the server level, not the site level
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[04:36:52]<mvc>?
[04:37:12]<mvc>(sorry, wrong window)
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[04:42:56]<tonybibbs>So looking at using Aegir at State of Iowa and I'm curious how close to prime time this thing is?
[04:43:26]<tonybibbs>Curious if the beta is something you'd feel comfortable recommending or if we'd be better served waiting it out a bit
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[04:45:14]<Met4physica_>i am having an issue with barracuda/octopus where i have two sites with SSL certs, and two ip addresses, and they are confusing each other and occassionally getting the wrong certificate
[04:48:40]<yuracagran>anarcat: If so, there is no way to fix the site on a separate ip. Whatever I do such as editing hosting_ip_addresses table..., after re-verifying server/site it will switch back to the aegir server's ip again.
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[04:51:59]<yuracagran> Met4physica_: different IPs shouldn't make sense for SSL certs
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[04:59:40]<Met4physica>i am wondering what kind of server setup is necessary to have two SSL enabled nginx sites
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[04:59:47]<Met4physica>previously i had 1 server where i listed two IP addresses, and that is not working
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[05:15:06]<yuracagran>Met4physica: any message when you enter https://domain?
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[05:21:08]<Met4physica>yuracagran: no, except for sometimes i get the invalid certificate error for IE users only
[05:21:30]<Met4physica>i set up a new server on my octopus for octopus.domain.com with nginx_ssl enabled, and its unique IP
[05:21:39]<Met4physica>and then i moved the platform to the new server, and pointed my DNS to that new IP
[05:21:47]<Met4physica>i'm hoping that will solve the issue
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[05:23:51]<omega8cc>Met4physica: it is very simple, and even you don't need to use Aegir SSL features to host any number of SSL enabled sites, with many unique IPs
[05:24:22]<Met4physica>omega8cc: i was following the github discussion and did not take away a successful solution, have a pointer?
[05:25:02]<omega8cc>Met4physica: you only need to add http + https little proxy config file per site
[05:25:21]<omega8cc>I will post how-to later today
[05:26:18]<Met4physica>omega8cc: that is much appreciated
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[05:27:11]<Met4physica>omega8cc: another worry i have is this thread http://groups.drupal.org/node/68888#comment-413169 that takes about PCI-DSS requirements for accepting credit cards/payments on websites, was wondering how barracuda stacked up witht hat
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[05:28:07]<omega8cc>In fact, we could build this in the Aegir directly, but for now there is an easy workaround
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[05:28:23]<omega8cc>bbl, late dinner time
[05:28:34]<Met4physica>omega8cc: enjoy, and ping me i'll test for you today
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[05:54:30]<anarcat>yuracagran: why do you want to change that IP?
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[05:54:57]<anarcat>yuracagran: normally, the IP address assigned to the server is resolved from the title of the server, you can override and save the form and that new IP will take its place
[05:55:00]<anarcat>then you can verify the sites on that server to change the IP
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[05:55:11]<anarcat>yuracagran: i am not sure I understand your issue very well
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[06:11:56]<xamox>What is the command for grabbing Aegir? I tried: git clone http://git.aegirproject.org/hostmaster.git but this didn't work. Any ideas? Git works fine for me pulling/pushing from github
[06:15:29]<anarcat>git clone git://git.aegirproject.org/provision.git
[06:17:04]<xamox>anarcat, what's the difference between the hostmaster & provision then?
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[06:17:18]<xamox>anarcat, looking at the install guide, but I see nothing about running git to grab it.
[06:21:05]<yuracagran>anarcat: issue is like that; couple of ips assigned to the server. aegir is residing on the main ip (x.x.x.1) rest of sites has their own private ip and has their zone records on dns server. When I am creating a website (abc.com / x.x.x.2) I am expecting that the aegir will resolve it and take its ip. But its getting x.x.x.1 and site cannot be discovered. Each time I have to edit vhost files and fill correct ip.
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[06:42:55]<anarcat>xamox: then follow the install guide :)
[06:45:13]<xamox>anarcat, I am. But just got hung up on the Drush provision issue. Stating I need a higher bootstrapped drupal environment, drush works fine on my other sites, any ideas?
[06:45:35]<anarcat>i'm in a rush right now, maybe somebody else can help you :)
[06:45:44]<xamox>anarcat, understandable.
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[07:01:15]<noecc>xamox: From INSTALL.txt ...your basic Drupal system (Drupal core, hosting, hostmaster and eldir) that will be the Aegir frontend and the backend system (provision and drush).
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[07:11:53]<xamox>noecc, so aegir needs a drupal install in the /var/aegir directory then?
[07:12:22]<xamox>noecc, I apologize. It's my first time setting up Aegir.
[07:13:54]<noecc>No. The installation will create its own var/aegir/hostmaster-version. Look at the last section (Checkpoint / Finished!) of INSTALL.txt
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[07:17:03]<xamox>noecc, Yeah, mine isn't getting through the install script. It gets part of the way then gives me the error: Command provision-install needs a higher bootstrap level to run - you will need invoke drush from a more functional Drupal environment to run this command.
[07:17:24]<xamox>noecc, but drush is working fine on any other site I have on my server
[07:18:16]<xamox>noecc, could that be related to php 5.3?
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[07:26:19]<noecc>xamox: Using PHP 5.3 is not recommended for use with Aegir
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[07:27:32]<realityloop>noecc: possibly on the hostmaster box.. but it should be fine on remotes.. and I know of at least one person using it with Aegir without issues
[07:27:32]<hefring>realityloop: 1 day 8 hours ago <omega8cc> tell realityloop: every client has separate hostmaster etc
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[07:38:43]<Met4physica>omega8cc: also, when you return, would you mind mentioning to me if your hosting services are in the USA? i am not going to host other peoples sites anymore, its a huge liability and legal requirement, so if your services are compatible i'd like to recommend you to 2 people
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[07:50:54]<gmclelland>can someone tell me how I can use Sass/Compass as the aegir user? Everytime time I try compass -v, I get command not found
[07:51:31]<gmclelland>I'm running on Ubuntu
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[07:55:48]<gmclelland>anybody here?
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[08:38:35]<jvc26>xamox: are you using the drush which the install script downloaded? Or are you using a version you yourself installed?
[08:38:39]<yuracagran>during site installation on remote web/database server I have issue. http://pastebin.com/1qNeNyKd Any help appreciated.
[08:39:37]<jvc26>yuracagran: Could not create database user naexamplecom would appear to be your problem. Do you have sufficient privileges (i.e. root on the remote database)
[08:43:41]<yuracagran>jvc26: That's the confusing point I'd granted root on the remote database as: grant all privileges on *.* to 'root'@'46.52.XX.XX' identified by 'abcxyz';
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[08:46:27]<jvc26>yuracagran: interesting... last time I got that error it was due to a connections issue and an incorrect IP. Some silly things which may be going on: MySQL is bound to the remote IP? MySQL connections aren't firewalled somewhere (incoming or outgoing)?
[08:48:39]<jvc26>yuracagran: i.e. can you connect to the MySQL instance remotely independent of Aegir?
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[08:52:45]<yuracagran>jvc26: I am lookin on it, I have closed firewall and connection is ok independently
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[08:59:00]<yuracagran>jvc26: independently I can connect to remote mysql but aegir has same issue
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[09:07:37]<EugenMayer>yuracagran: be sure you use the right host for testing
[09:07:42]<EugenMayer>login into the aegir master
[09:07:49]<EugenMayer>su -s /bin/bash aegir
[09:08:04]<EugenMayer>mysql -h remote.host.damoain -u root -p
[09:08:27]<EugenMayer>be sure to use the curret domain name OR be sure that PTR / reverse DNS works right
[09:08:54]<EugenMayer>mysql needs to match directly. you are e.g. not allowed to use --skip-name-resolf
[09:09:19]<EugenMayer>and you are not allowed to use bind != 0.0.0.0 if you have more then one IP / interface you want to listen on
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[09:26:37]* szczym just starts BARRACUDA upgrade to the stable one. fingers crossed ;)
[09:27:15]<yuracagran>EugenMayer: yes I can connect from master aegir (46.XX.XX.XX) to remote database (74.XX.XX.XX) with -h IP or Domain.. Remote database binding an IP. bind=74.XX.XX.XX.
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[09:32:22]<omega8cc>Met4physica: afaik Ubercart is not certified as PCI-compliant, however Barracuda + valid SSL cert creates compliant environment. Also, we host Drupal SaaS using Aegir in four top quality locations: New York, Amsterdam, London and Singapore. Thanks! Now to post that SSL how-to.
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[09:59:45]<realityloop>is anyone here using Aegir with remotes where DB and webserver are separate machines?
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[10:05:54]<yuracagran>realityloop: here I am but not successfully setup yet :)
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[10:06:24]<realityloop>yuracagran: when you say not successful have you been getting errors? or still in the process of setting up?
[10:08:43]<yuracagran>realityloop: yep, there are some database issues.
[10:10:38]<realityloop>yuracagran: I think there may be an issue with aegir here.. can I confirm you have hostmaster speaking to an external DB , and external Web..?
[10:11:24]<realityloop>yuracagran: I get error when trying to clone or create a new site using the External DB and Webserver: Dummy connection failed to fail: sh: mysql: not found
[10:14:00]<yuracagran>realityloop: did you grant aegir superuser on the remote database server?
[10:14:30]<realityloop>the server settings had mysql root user/pass
[10:14:34]<realityloop>has
[10:14:40]<realityloop>for the DB server on Hostmaster
[10:17:24]<yuracagran>login to remote mysql server and grant all privileges on *.* to 'root'@'masteraegirip' identified by 'PASSW';
[10:17:53]<yuracagran>if your superuser aegir change root to aegir
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[10:22:34]<realityloop>have done that
[10:22:41]<yuracagran>realityloop: then you maybe need to change bind address with an ip instead of listening all at the remote mysql
[10:24:11]<yuracagran>edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf bind=0.0.0.0 => server'sip
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[10:30:33]<realityloop>yuracagran: I'm trying to set it up with private IP's on Linode..
[10:31:51]<yuracagran>realityloop: yeah put that ip . we are on the remote server by the way
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[10:45:36]<yuracagran>realityloop: let me know you are stage
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[10:46:10]<realityloop>yuracagran: sorry a bit busy with other things.. give me a few minutes
[10:46:41]<yuracagran>okay
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[10:47:45]<AntiNSA>sorry so stupid forget the settings update question :(
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