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[12:03:25]<anarcat>mig5: how's that release going? :)
[12:04:24]<anarcat>mig5: i'm going to review some patches now
[12:08:26]<CIA-12>aegir/hostmaster: anarcat * rdb1ffc214d68 /modules/hosting/task.hosting.inc: #1057178 by univate - fix php 5.3 warning: call-time pass-by-reference is deprecated
[12:09:59]<mig5>anarcat: welli didn't want to release until drush 4.3 was out
[12:10:05]<mig5>so that i could set that in the install.sh/upgrade.sh
[12:10:35]<mig5>argh
[12:10:36]<mig5>http://drupal.org/node/1041386#comment-4107092
[12:10:57]<mig5>your call, do you want to wait, or do we release on drush 3.3
[12:11:03]<mig5>i don't mind
[12:14:54]<omega8cc>hmm.. "I don't think we'll get 4.3 out today" means it will be tomorrow or next week?
[12:15:05]<anarcat>bleh
[12:15:07]<anarcat>no need to wait
[12:15:10]<anarcat>this is an RC, ffs
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[12:17:19]<CIA-12>aegir/hostmaster: anarcat * r7ac2c5fe7c98 /modules/hosting/site/hosting_site.module: #1005014 - display the right tasks in bulk operations
[12:17:48]<anarcat>fire in the hole!
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[12:17:56]* anarcat is committing patches without testing! run run run! ;)
[12:18:00]<mig5>yikes :)
[12:18:05]<kvanderw>argh!
[12:18:08]<mig5>yeah that one looked clunky but there is no better way to do it right now
[12:18:22]<mig5>unless we add, like 'dialog => TRUE' to tasks, something like 'input_required' => TRUE and use that
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[12:18:38]<mig5>but it's the same issue, and hard to maintain
[12:20:05]<anarcat>i like his approach, actually
[12:20:11]<anarcat>do what we mean
[12:20:38]<anarcat>i don't understand why there's this === FALSE or === TRUE thing in there tho
[12:20:40]<anarcat>so i'll fix that
[12:22:54]<anarcat>mig5: what's your opinion on this? http://drupal.org/node/994210#comment-4099526
[12:23:17]<anarcat>it feels wrong - i don't understand how those directories can have the wrong perms in the first place
[12:23:45]<CIA-12>aegir/hostmaster: anarcat * r4f16634d5cf6 /modules/hosting/site/hosting_site.module: make last commit function names and conditionnals more readable
[12:24:48]<mig5>yeah i thought the sticky bit on files should cover this?
[12:25:04]<mig5>oh this is for 'sites imported into aegir' that it helps?
[12:25:17]<mig5>'This is not an issue for new sites'
[12:25:29]<mig5>in my opinion it should just be part of the Import documentation then
[12:25:49]<anarcat>import doc?
[12:25:57]<anarcat>that happens only on imported sites?!
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[12:26:01]<anarcat>ie. on deploy?
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[12:27:34]<CIA-12>aegir/provision: anarcat * r1e65d021a3a7 /platform/clone.provision.inc: #1057736 by EugenMayer - disable SSL when cloning sites
[12:27:34]<mig5>i guess, yeah.
[12:27:45]<anarcat>that commit hurts my ego
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[12:27:52]<mig5>well you didn't have to commit it :)
[12:28:21]<anarcat>i think it's the right thing to do right now, as a workaround
[12:28:44]<anarcat>and egos are made to be tamed
[12:30:26]<mig5>you're such a nice guy :)
[12:30:33]<anarcat>this issue was annoying me, so i closed it :) http://drupal.org/node/630336#comment-4107630
[12:30:37]<anarcat>i am *not* a nice guy
[12:30:42]<anarcat>stop saying that or i'll kick you in the nuts
[12:30:43]<anarcat>;)
[12:30:54]<anarcat>alright
[12:31:15]<anarcat>so this is the only remaining issue in our queue that needs review http://drupal.org/node/994210
[12:31:19]<anarcat>omega8cc: i am confused by this one
[12:31:30]<anarcat>omega8cc: is this only on imported sites? http://drupal.org/node/994210
[12:33:45]<omega8cc>anarcat mig5: no, it affects also migrations, it is not related to just imports, also the sticky bit just doesn't work, even forcing umask in settings.php doesn't prevent some modules from creating files writable only by web server (without group writable permissions), so adding common subdirs in files dir is a tiny workaround and not a solution, you need to force 002 umask on system level, and even then it will not help you if you will extract files from t
[12:33:45]<omega8cc>archive while importing the site - it is still docs/how-to stuff
[12:34:35]<anarcat>first line was stripped at "will extract files from t"...
[12:34:58]<omega8cc>weird, I didn't paste it, just wrote. uh
[12:35:13]<anarcat>i don't understand how this can affect migrate if the site already has the right permissions before the migrate
[12:35:40]<anarcat>furthermore, i don't understand why g+s wouldn't work and would like to investigate that instead of working around the issue for just specific modules...
[12:35:48]<anarcat>although I guess we could add this as a workaround for now...
[12:35:51]<omega8cc>that is the issue - permissions are changing there during migrate
[12:35:54]<anarcat>mig5: what do you think - commit this as a workaround/
[12:35:56]<anarcat>?
[12:36:29]<omega8cc>"and even then it will not help you if you will extract files from tar gz archive while importing the site - it is still docs how-to stuff"
[12:36:30]<anarcat>omega8cc: how can the ownership change? tar creation should keep the group and tar extraction should apply it, no?
[12:37:15]<anarcat>i am rather confused by this
[12:37:39]<anarcat>and if ergonlogic wouldn't have showed me a similar symptom when deploying Voicebox sites, I would be even more skeptical
[12:37:46]<anarcat>but now i must admit that i have seen similar behavior
[12:38:12]<omega8cc>yep, but I observed that many times - the same subdirs or files in the files dir are getting new chmod after migration, and it affects not just imported sites, I need to document it in detail on some example site
[12:38:49]<mig5>i welcome the workaround, creating those dirs if we have to, but i admit i don't fully understand how it goes wrong
[12:38:52]<anarcat>new chmod or chgrp?
[12:39:24]<anarcat>okay, let's commit omega8cc's workaround for now and look for a better fix eventually
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[12:41:05]<omega8cc>the group permissions are a mess there, some dirs still have correct group and permissions and some not, and it goes mad if you will check next levels of subdirs there - I'm pretty sure something is wrong in this, but I need to document it so you can reproduce the behavior
[12:41:52]<anarcat>okay
[12:42:13]<omega8cc>I can say the using my patch in production already resolved most support requests/issues related to this, however not all
[12:47:05]<anarcat>omega8cc: i committed the fix, and i'm sorry to be an ass again about this, but it would be really much easier for us if you would keep whitespace out of regular commits
[12:47:06]<omega8cc>also, to resolve this on the system level by forcing umask also for sftp uploads, I'm using this: http://drupal.org/node/908524#comment-4086544 but still, it doesn't help for files extracted from archive, as they don't receive correct chmod magically, but the trick helps with files and dirs created by web server/user and any user uploads
[12:47:23]<anarcat>ie. this is not well readable: http://drupal.org/files/issues/587044a8237afab4653998cebce0e5e803a9987f....
[12:48:53]<omega8cc>anarcat: not sure what white space you mean there?
[12:48:55]<anarcat>omega8cc: i am thinking of redoing the permission system so that aegir runs tasks within a more controled environment - with sudo or setuid() (gasp! running as root!)
[12:49:14]<anarcat>omega8cc: this is a whitespace only diff:
[12:49:14]<anarcat>- $mkdir["sites/$url/files"] = 02770;
[12:49:14]<anarcat>- $chgrp["sites/$url/files"] = d('@server_master')->web_group;
[12:49:14]<anarcat>+ $mkdir["sites/$url/files"] = 02770;
[12:49:14]<anarcat>+ $chgrp["sites/$url/files"] = d('@server_master')->web_group;
[12:49:19]<anarcat>and it makes things harder to read
[12:49:39]<anarcat>another example is this:
[12:49:39]<anarcat>+ // Sync all filesystem changes to the remote server.
[12:49:51]<anarcat>that has nothing to do with the commit documented in the changelog, afaik
[12:50:28]<omega8cc>ah, you mean that vertical alignment I did there to match $mkdir["sites/$url/files/imagecache"] width?
[12:51:23]<omega8cc>sorry, I will remember to not touch any code not related to the patch
[12:53:15]<anarcat>yeah, thanks! :)
[12:53:20]<omega8cc>anarcat: sorry, didn't realize it can be a problem
[12:53:27]<anarcat>it's not big deal, it just makes patches harder to read
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[12:53:36]<omega8cc>right
[12:53:41]<anarcat>you know, you stare at that code for a while before realizing it's only a whitespace change :)
[12:54:40]<omega8cc>yep, it is obvious only for the author of the whitespace changes, oops
[12:54:49]<anarcat>hey Vertice
[12:54:57]<anarcat>Vertice: we're about to do RC1 here :)
[12:55:03]<Vertice>lo
[12:55:03]<Vertice>awesome =)
[12:55:05]<anarcat>omega8cc: hehe :)
[12:56:25]<anarcat>Vertice: we're having issues with the cluster stuff, btw
[12:56:41]<anarcat>ie. http://drupal.org/node/1004526
[12:56:45]<mig5>hoping unconed will come back, surely he will discover his own patch has broken everything else :)
[12:56:55]<anarcat>Vertice: and i'd really like you to take a look at the site form again, as it can be painfully slow...
[12:56:59]<mig5>so hoping he didn't fix that offhandedly for himself and keep going,because i was stumped :)
[12:58:23]<anarcat>so anyways
[12:58:28]<anarcat>i think we're ready for the release here
[12:58:36]<anarcat>mig5: let's see our checklist again shall we?
[12:59:22]<anarcat>http://community.aegirproject.org/node/32
[12:59:40]<mig5>ooh, i forgot about that
[12:59:45]<anarcat>mig5: i'm going to run the dreaded release script
[12:59:48]<anarcat>be real scared
[13:00:02]<mig5>hehe
[13:00:04]<mig5>ok
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[13:00:09]<CIA-12>aegir/provision: omega8cc * r2af94443b245 /platform/provision_drupal.drush.inc: Better support for files common subdirs.
[13:00:11]<CIA-12>aegir/provision: omega8cc * r1dc778ffb8f8 /platform/provision_drupal.drush.inc: Add support for some common files/subdirs like css/js/ctools/imagecache (Grace)
[13:00:20]<mig5>just make sure it still sed's over everything
[13:01:22]<anarcat>i am just running the script
[13:01:30]<anarcat>hang on to your whatever
[13:01:33]<mig5>:)
[13:01:47]<mig5>should totally have tested an install of HEAD after all those fixes just this last hour
[13:01:50]<mig5>ah well
[13:01:53]<mig5>:)
[13:02:03]* LloydPearsonIV hangs on to apache
[13:02:13]<omega8cc>there is always rc2
[13:02:21]* mig5 runs a test of HEAD install anyway (thanks frigg script)
[13:02:45]<anarcat>sweet!
[13:02:45]* LloydPearsonIV uh oh, it restarted, grabs ubuntu
[13:02:48]<anarcat>thanks mig5
[13:03:03]<anarcat>push tags and commits upstream? (y/N) [Y/n]
[13:03:09]<anarcat>finger on the button, just waiting on mig5 :)
[13:03:23]<anarcat>mig5: if you could test the batch form too, that could be good, because i just blindly committed that shit ;)
[13:03:30]<mig5>yep
[13:03:34]<mig5>almost done installing..
[13:03:51]<anarcat>you and your crazy fast vserver instances
[13:03:56]<anarcat>you make me feel like an old fart
[13:04:09]<mig5>RackspaceCloud, man :)
[13:04:13]<anarcat>i'll brb
[13:04:22]<anarcat>ghetto cloud man :)
[13:04:46]<LloydPearsonIV>i use aws
[13:04:58]<mig5>and, done
[13:05:06]<mig5>testing now
[13:06:19]<mig5>bulk task form works
[13:07:16]<mig5>man, just saw that ancient bug
[13:07:23]<mig5>where you Disable a site and it succeeds
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[13:07:27]<mig5>but site is still Enabled
[13:07:34]<mig5>as though the hosting post_disable hook didn't run
[13:07:39]<mig5>IPC blah blah
[13:07:43]<mig5>anyway, all good
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[13:09:48]<omega8cc>anarcat: the previous patch was wrong
[13:10:07]<omega8cc>we no longer use chown there
[13:10:42]<anarcat>mig5: it takes time to run that hook, and during that time, the task is marked as completed. i think that's a bug
[13:10:44]<omega8cc>now part of this is from old patch
[13:10:51]<anarcat>omega8cc: i don't understand, is there something i need to fix now?
[13:11:05]<anarcat>omega8cc: i imported the two patches from the queue... :/
[13:11:25]<omega8cc>anarcat: only latest should be applied
[13:11:38]<anarcat>omega8cc: i thought the latest wouldn't apply by itself
[13:11:45]<anarcat>omega8cc: i'll revert and reroll... thanks for the heads up
[13:11:48]<omega8cc>anarcat: you asked me to reroll it :)
[13:12:12]<anarcat>omega8cc: so i need to revert 2af94443b2452632585042de4d5f32f33112d48a?
[13:12:17]<anarcat>omega8cc: that's right.. sorry :)
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[13:12:53]<omega8cc_>yes, 2af94443b2452632585042de4d5f32f33112d48a
[13:13:23]<CIA-12>aegir/provision: anarcat * rc0d3c32ba9af /platform/provision_drupal.drush.inc: Revert "Better support for files common subdirs."
[13:13:29]<anarcat>omega8cc: how's that now?
[13:13:59]<anarcat>omega8cc_: ^^
[13:14:11]<omega8cc_>good
[13:14:18]<anarcat>good
[13:14:23]<anarcat>tagging the release
[13:14:26]<omega8cc_>thanks
[13:14:48]<anarcat>ookay
[13:14:54]<anarcat>last call - any commit before release? :)
[13:14:55]<anarcat>push tags and commits upstream? (y/N) [Y/n]
[13:15:00]<mig5>doooo ittttt
[13:15:01]<anarcat>mig5: ^^
[13:15:01]<omega8cc_>lol
[13:15:07]<anarcat>FIRE IN THE HOLE!
[13:15:16]<CIA-12>aegir/provision: anarcat * r464d09557aa5 / (6 files in 2 dirs): change version information for release 0.4-rc1, from 0.4-beta2
[13:15:18]<CIA-12>aegir/provision: anarcat * rb63018eee9c6 / (6 files in 2 dirs): Revert "change version information for release 0.4-rc1, from 0.4-beta2"
[13:15:23]<mig5>i have the release notes/ email ready
[13:15:24]<mig5>capow!
[13:15:25]<anarcat>created archive of tag provision-0.4-rc1 with checksum 6f4da4ba7dcfaa1bcc3c44f96beb3eda
[13:15:28]<anarcat> * [new tag] hostmaster-0.4-alpha6 -> hostmaster-0.4-alpha6
[13:15:30]<anarcat>fucker
[13:15:38]<anarcat>die fucking tag
[13:15:52]<mig5>alpha6 ?!
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[13:16:22]<omega8cc_>time machine
[13:16:23]<anarcat>pushing the hostmaster tag
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[13:16:33]<anarcat>created archive of tag hostmaster-0.4-rc1 with checksum b2a42b151b817c1ea6cdf15462aa2e15
[13:16:45]* anarcat has changed the topic to Aegir hosting system 0.4-rc1 released! http://community.aegirproject.org/0.4-rc1 | Issue queue: http://is.gd/edalY | read this before asking: http://community.aegirproject.org/bugs | scrums on thursdays 2000UTC
[13:16:59]<mig5>http://community.aegirproject.org/0.4-rc1
[13:17:06]<omega8cc>wow
[13:17:14]<anarcat>gitosis@apps:/srv/git/provision.git$ git tag -d hostmaster-0.4-alpha6
[13:17:14]<anarcat>Deleted tag 'hostmaster-0.4-alpha6'
[13:17:19]<anarcat>it's an old tag that was lying around
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[13:18:55]<anarcat>mig5: i'm thinking of adding those md5s to the relnotes
[13:19:09]<mig5>good idea
[13:19:35]<mig5>i am trying to edit the 'release' block on http://community.aegirproject.org/dashboard frontpage
[13:19:38]<mig5>and it keeps freezing my browser
[13:19:38]<mig5>wtf
[13:20:04]<mig5>wonder if it's related to that javascript that ergonlogic disabled to fix that image issue
[13:20:07]<mig5>couldbe my browser
[13:20:41]<anarcat>added checksums
[13:21:07]<anarcat>at last!
[13:21:14]<anarcat>that freaking release was a long way to come
[13:21:34]<anarcat>mig5: it freezes my browser too
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[13:21:39]<anarcat>ah, it unfroze
[13:21:41]<mig5>same
[13:21:43]<mig5>jsut saved :)
[13:21:50]<mig5>weird
[13:21:54]<anarcat>rah, me too :)
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[13:22:26]<mig5>haha
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[13:23:35]<omega8cc>mig5: so my updates to http://community.aegirproject.org/node/71 are now up to date
[13:24:08]<omega8cc>almost
[13:24:57]<anarcat>alright
[13:24:58]<anarcat>well
[13:25:01]<mig5>lunchtime!
[13:25:01]* anarcat is happy cat
[13:25:13]<mig5>thanks anarcat
[13:25:23]<mig5>what a milestone!
[13:25:53]<anarcat>yeah
[13:25:58]<mig5>17 months since 0.4alpha1
[13:26:00]<anarcat>thank you for the relnotes, mig5 ! :)
[13:26:01]<mig5>and 0.3
[13:26:18]<anarcat>hey, i'll go around creating that 0.4 branch
[13:26:23]<anarcat>so that we can fuck around master again
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[13:32:20]<anarcat> * [new branch] provision-0.4 -> provision-0.4
[13:32:40]<anarcat> * [new branch] hostmaster-0.4 -> hostmaster-0.4
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[13:46:56]<anarcat>branching documented here http://community.aegirproject.org/node/360
[13:47:11]<hefring>community => First release candidate out - 0.4 branch frozen, master branch opened to development => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/360
[13:51:17]<anarcat>mig5: i'm adding the release to the calendar - i wonder if we shouldn't put the relnotes there instead in the future
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[13:57:07]<mig5>makes sense
[14:01:48]<mig5>"I also personally plan to work on enhancing the security model to allow users to run drush commands on their sites directly, without doing funky sudo -u aegir or similar insanities beforehand."
[14:01:52]<mig5>oh hell yeah
[14:01:54]<mig5>:)
[14:01:57]<mig5>that sounds great
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[14:10:14]<LloydPearsonIV>i run the script as aegir user or root?
[14:10:40]<mig5>'Make sure you download it to somewhere that the aegir user can access in order
[14:10:41]<mig5>to execute it.'
[14:10:46]<mig5>(from UPGRADE.txt)
[14:10:59]<mig5>perhaps we can word that better..
[14:11:05]<mig5>but yes, aegir user for the upgrade script.
[14:11:17]<mig5>'All instructions and in general all commands must be run as aegir user, so all
[14:11:18]<mig5>permissions are always set correctly.'
[14:11:23]<mig5>it was there after all
[14:11:34]<LloydPearsonIV>i read it that & got it, i was perpelxed by the command that was needed to run the script
[14:11:46]<LloydPearsonIV>reminded me of when u do the initial install as root
[14:12:04]<mig5>oh true,we prefix it with su -s /bin/sh aegir -c
[14:12:10]<mig5>which is unnecessary if you are already the aegir user
[14:12:32]<mig5>so if you are aegir, then just sh /path/to/your/downloaded/upgrade.sh.txt aegir.example.com
[14:14:22]<LloydPearsonIV>should i change drush in the script or wait until after the upgrade is done?
[14:14:40]<LloydPearsonIV>i want to use the current release of drush
[14:15:43]<mig5>the current release of Drush is not entirely compatible with Aegir
[14:15:54]<mig5>i would advise you to remain on 3.3 unltil 4.3 is released
[14:15:55]<LloydPearsonIV>ok
[14:16:35]<mig5>(there is a fix we are waiting on in Drush, for something that is broken in Drush itself, but it won't be present til the next release)
[14:17:06]<mig5>hopefully not long to wait. when i see it released, i might make an announcement to aegir-announce@lists.aegirproject.org to state that we're compatible and people can upgrade to it if they wish
[14:18:49]<LloydPearsonIV>oh ok
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[14:18:59]<LloydPearsonIV>looks like my upgrade was successful
[14:19:13]<LloydPearsonIV>this is my first time having a successful upgrade
[14:19:33]<LloydPearsonIV>but before recently, i hadn't used aegir since june
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[14:23:24]<mig5>http://lists.aegirproject.org/pipermail/aegir-announce/2011-February/000...
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[14:28:26]<LloydPearsonIV>ii think i made a mistake but it looks like everything is okay
[14:28:40]<LloydPearsonIV>i put the wrong domain for my aegir domain
[14:29:04]<LloydPearsonIV>i put host.pearsoncommunications when its sites.pearsoncommunications.com
[14:29:17]<LloydPearsonIV>host.pearsoncommunications is the server name
[14:30:42]<mig5>maybe pastebin your upgrade output
[14:30:51]<mig5>might be a while before i can look though
[14:32:23]<LloydPearsonIV>ok
[14:32:34]<LloydPearsonIV>it seems like everything is working though
[14:32:35]<LloydPearsonIV>'
[14:32:42]<LloydPearsonIV>but i need to do more testing
[14:33:18]<mig5>if you see 'backup' as one of the 'bulk tasks' available on the front page, you have probably upgraded successfully
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[14:35:12]<LloydPearsonIV>yes i see it
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[14:37:26]<LloydPearsonIV>just in case u spot something
[14:37:27]<LloydPearsonIV>http://pastebin.com/WnPrGgHF
[14:38:32]<mig5>looks okactualyl
[14:38:36]<mig5>actually*
[14:38:43]<mig5>array_key_exists() expects parameter 2 to be array, string given verify.provision.inc:28 [warning]
[14:38:46]<mig5>array_key_exists() expects parameter 2 to be array, string given verify.provision.inc:28 [warning]
[14:38:50]<mig5>those are a bit weird
[14:38:52]<mig5>but not sure
[14:39:05]<mig5>it's possibly we just bootstrap @hostmaster alias anyway and figure it out ourselves.. these days..
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[14:40:48]<mig5>check your ~/.drush/ alias file (for the hostmaster site) and make sure the 'uri' attribute is as you'd expect
[14:41:30]<mig5>should be hostmaster.alias.drushrc.php, the file
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[14:53:42]<acbot>Nice work on the RC!
[14:55:54]<LloydPearsonIV>i have to say nice work too
[14:56:08]<LloydPearsonIV>looks like it still was successful despite my stupidity
[14:56:10]<LloydPearsonIV>lol
[14:56:11]<yuracagran>I have upgraded. There are couple of warnings http://pastebin.com/An5z79i0 . seems things are ok. just I needed to correct frontend's ip on nginx vhost file.
[14:57:17]<omega8cc>LloydPearsonIV: I believe these weird errors are caused by drush_civicrm you have there, it should be probably moved away on hostmaster upgrade, as it causes issues for any non-civicrm site (verify fails).
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[14:58:30]<LloydPearsonIV>omega8cc: I have the head version, that bgm sent me. It actually is fixed in that version
[14:58:39]<LloydPearsonIV>but i know what you mean
[14:59:35]<mig5>thanks acbot you magnificent bastard
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[14:59:50]<mig5>i finally met your boy benkant
[14:59:52]<omega8cc>it still can break things, like on hostmaster upgrade
[15:01:20]<LloydPearsonIV>omega8cc: i understand
[15:01:23]<LloydPearsonIV>i deleted it
[15:01:34]<LloydPearsonIV>i actually forgot it was there
[15:04:18]<LloydPearsonIV>the only thing that would have made this better is if it would have automatically brought over my automated backups & garbage collection modules
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[15:16:06]<omega8cc>LloydPearsonIV: it can move them if you have those contrib modules in sites/domain/modules for hostmaster
[15:16:31]<LloydPearsonIV>yeh, i thought about that
[15:16:43]<LloydPearsonIV>wasnt thinkin about that when i installed them using drush though
[15:16:44]<LloydPearsonIV>lol
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[15:20:25]<hefring>community => group and permissions of local.settings.php => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/362
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[15:39:37]<acbot>mig5: orly,... nice.. did you guys eat cheese and drink booze
[15:40:26]<acbot>has he turned into a hipster yet?
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[15:44:32]<mig5>acbot: yeah he's started dressing ironically
[15:45:33]<acbot>haha
[15:45:51]<acbot>do yo mean cause he wears ubuntu tshirts and carries a macbook pro
[15:46:03]<acbot>or has he actually got an angular haircut too
[15:50:22]<mig5>the latter, and he drinks lattes that affect his chakras
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[15:57:18]<acbot>lelz
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[16:00:04]<acbot>how have you been going over there?
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[16:00:24]<acbot>ben tells me he is trying to get away from drupal but he keeps getting dragged back in
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[16:08:52]<mig5>he loves it
[16:08:57]<mig5>i'm good, hellishly busy
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[16:10:57]<acbot>noice
[16:11:03]<acbot>just freelancing these days?
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[16:16:34]<mig5>part time
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[17:49:08]<argh>what happens if someone enables apache in the web interface of the aegir site and it isnt configured correctly?
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[17:58:02]<EugenMayer>argh: it wont simply work.
[17:58:31]<EugenMayer>Docs tell you, what preconditions you have on the server. Apache, php5 and so forth. Aegir does neither set those up on the master, nor on the remotes
[17:58:43]<argh>so how to reverse it?
[17:58:50]<EugenMayer>reverse?
[17:59:00]<argh>its not working.
[17:59:07]<EugenMayer>aptitude install apache2 php5 rsync sudo
[17:59:31]<argh>apache2 is installed, so is php5..
[17:59:37]<argh>aegir was working.
[18:00:14]<argh>i wanted to see what would happen if i changed the server option from "none" to "apache".
[18:00:36]<argh>and it appears aegir is lost.
[18:00:41]<argh>the database is there.
[18:00:44]<EugenMayer>Then find it.
[18:00:50]<argh>mysql is running.
[18:01:03]<argh>how, does it like cookies, pie or cake?
[18:01:11]<argh>apache is running.
[18:01:41]<argh>drush commands run.
[18:01:58]<argh>but the web interface and all sites are down.
[18:04:01]<EugenMayer>http://community.aegirproject.org/understanding
[18:04:19]<EugenMayer>http://community.aegirproject.org/using
[18:04:48]<EugenMayer>http://community.aegirproject.org/installing
[18:05:02]<argh>thanks, seen most of those.
[18:05:22]<EugenMayer>I hope you are not angry if i tell you, i dont believe that :)
[18:06:51]<argh>doesnt really matter.
[18:07:14]<argh>what does is fixing this.
[18:07:33]<argh>a radio button shouldnt kill the whole damn thing.
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[18:07:52]<argh>I hope youre not angry if I am a little frustrated.
[18:10:18]<EugenMayer>Iam fine. but the way you ask, you dont seen to have a deeper insight nor understand the problem. Thats why you dont even ask one concrete question
[18:11:28]<EugenMayer>"it does not work" is kind of exactly what iam talking about. I would tend to advice you to try to deal with the issue yourself, invest some time and see where the issue is. That means understanding aegirs configuration ( apache ) and the way sites are deployed, where the DB settings are actually stored and pushed for the use with the site and all this
[18:11:52]<EugenMayer>finally you end up having to understand where your issue is, then you can ask a concrete questions. And thats were you will get help ehre
[18:11:58]<EugenMayer>laters
[18:12:07]<argh>I provided earlier insight.
[18:12:20]<argh>If you understood english better maybe you would have seen that.
[18:12:28]<argh>And since you're so kind to ask, I'll phrase the question differently.
[18:12:52]<EugenMayer>wow.
[18:12:57]<EugenMayer>Dont ask me
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[18:13:19]<argh>I am not.
[18:13:33]<argh>I am asking anyone else here who might not be as rude.
[18:14:21]<argh>(and who might understand sarcasm.)
[18:14:41]<argh>Is Jesus in the room?
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[18:18:20]<argh>In the Server configuration there is a new option - compared to the version of aegir I had used previously. It was a radio button for the web server. Originally, when it was working it "none" was selected. Another option, "apache" was available. I selected that radio button and next cron run everything went away - all sites, and aegir. MySQL is running, Apache is running, Drush commands seem to run. I am searching the aegir databa
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[18:18:59]<argh>reverse it but if someone would point me toward the appropriate parameters I would most certainly appreciate it. The table, the field, anything at all.
[18:21:01]<argh>If that question is unclear, please feel free to ask questions. In short, the Server configuration page of aegir had 1 option changed referring to "apache" and aegir and all sites are now dead.
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[18:27:41]<argh>is anyone in here familiar with the Server page in aegir?
[18:28:12]<argh>..... the page that shows a configured Server settings?
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[18:46:33]<markwk>So, if I understand correctly, Aegir's backup task backups the database, but what's the standard route for backing up the files directory too?
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[19:06:08]<mig5>markwk: it backs up the db *andeverything in the site-specific dir (including the files dir).
[19:06:29]<mig5>markwk: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/45
[19:07:33]<EugenMayer>yeah it backups files. Thats just a deal-braker.
[19:08:14]<markwk>excellent...! Trop bien!
[19:10:03]<markwk>I have been using Aegir for a couple weeks. It makes me wonder how I lived without it before.
[19:10:11]<EugenMayer>markwk: you should really think about this
[19:10:22]<EugenMayer>This is not excellent when your files exceed 500MB
[19:10:24]<markwk>?
[19:10:44]<EugenMayer>you will end up with a backup of 500MB _every_ migration ( saved on the master ) + one extracted version int platforms /
[19:11:12]<EugenMayer>you will backup the files on the master, extract them and rsync them back on the remote even if the migration is happening on the same remote
[19:11:29]<EugenMayer>That is actually the only thing which does not scale in aegir at all.
[19:12:10]<markwk>You'd need a way to store your files outside of the platform I suppose
[19:12:25]<EugenMayer>([size files]*[times migrates] +1) * [#sites]
[19:12:26]<markwk>Drupal scaling issue
[19:12:36]<markwk>?
[19:12:51]<EugenMayer>thats the space calculation of the aegir master
[19:13:12]<acbot>It would be cool to have an option not to backup on migrate
[19:13:24]<EugenMayer>acbot: not possible, aegir relys on it
[19:13:35]<EugenMayer>the classical way to migrate is backup, extract -> rsync
[19:13:36]<acbot>our system backups tar up /var/aegir and /var/aegir/backups can get pretty big with lots of sites
[19:13:53]<EugenMayer>acbot: not to talk about the bandwith..
[19:14:04]<acbot>yerp
[19:14:07]<EugenMayer>http://drupal.org/node/994210#comment-4108388
[19:14:17]<acbot>still.. i would rather have too many backups than not enough
[19:14:29]<EugenMayer>Files backup is for _backup tools_ which can handle incremetnal backups
[19:14:37]<argh>is the db_passwd field hashed in the hosting_db_server table
[19:15:04]<EugenMayer>acbot: aegir should _never_ be the backup tool. Its not even worth it, its too bad for that - and thats fine. Its a total different and huge thing called "backup"
[19:15:31]<EugenMayer>acbot: backuping the code / db before migration is fine, anything else is just waste of space, time and bandwith
[19:15:59]<acbot>I here you.. I certainly don't rely on aegir's backup system but yeh..
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[19:19:36]<mig5>argh: nope
[19:20:00]<mig5>vein-poppingly plaintext
[19:21:56]<argh>hmm. ok..
[19:22:46]<argh>would a bad value in hosting_service cause aegir to be entirely unavailable?
[19:23:02]<argh>ie in the restart_cmd field
[19:23:34]<mig5>unlikely, if 'unavailable' means you can't reach the websites, debug the apache side of things. as in, the virtualhosts themselves
[19:23:37]<mig5>etc
[19:23:40]<mig5>apache2ctl -S
[19:24:11]<mig5>editing the hosting_service stuff wouldn't take anything down directly/instantly. that's just data to hand around on tasks, which then do $stuff (write vhosts etc)
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[19:24:34]<mig5>so you can always edit the vhosts manually/on-the-fly for the moment to get things working again, and then fix it 'properly' later if you figure out what happened
[19:25:00]<mig5>dinner time!
[19:25:14]<argh>bon appetit
[19:29:38]<acbot>mig5: just a wheel of cheese and a bottle of plonk?
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[19:35:24]<argh>well I did find that the SetEnv db_passwd was not in sync for ... changed it but still not quite there yet. is that one hashed?
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[19:42:09]<argh>hm, nevermind, that wasnt it.
[19:43:31]<markwk>what would be the file system setup in a multiserver setup? it seems to me that you'd have some sort of file system outside of your drupal...
[19:45:16]<argh>seen multiserver setup in drupal before?
[19:45:28]<argh>sites directory?
[19:46:27]<argh>in platforms each platform - version of drupal (etc) - has a sites dir with the sites using it - files are generally in there.
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[19:49:19]<argh>@mig .... so its possible I did something that altered the hosting_service table such that it then altered vhosts etc .... right?
[19:49:32]<markwk>Yeah, but I imagine I high performance site this wouldn't be your setup. I think you'd want something like an NAS.
[19:50:16]<markwk>Essentially all your computers would have the files directory there connected via the network.
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[19:59:36]<markwk>I'm not really sure of the mechanics involved though.
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[20:27:34]<EugenMayer>markwk: with the current file management you will have serious troubles with something like NAS or distributed FS
[20:27:55]<EugenMayer>its not only that migration issue with copy, its rather also the missing link of "most recent platform"
[20:28:42]<EugenMayer>that said, you cann symlink /var/www/aeigr/platforms/yourp_1.0.0/sites/yoursite/files from lets say /mnt/gffs
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[20:29:02]<EugenMayer>because at least yourp_1.0.0 will change to yourp_1.0.1 on the next migration or whatever
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[20:29:36]<EugenMayer>in that case, aegir is not the right place to handle this, you should use "post task hooks" to do that yourself after migration
[20:29:50]<EugenMayer>so "recreate the symlink to the XXX when the site was YYY"
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[21:29:50]<CIA-12>aegir/hostmaster: mig * rf1642baae7d5 /modules/hosting/task/hosting_task.module: backup_delete can be a safe task for the hostmaster site.
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[23:13:47]<skwashd>this isn't finalised but what do people think? http://intimateaegir.eventbrite.com/ especially omega8cc
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[23:20:39]<skwashd>i've left everyone speechless
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[23:27:05]<mrbaileys>skaswd: it says Monday March 5th, but the 5th is a Saturday no?
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[23:56:17]<omega8cc>skwashd: :) btw: March 5th is Saturday, and Mini costs monthly $28, the $17/m is for annual subscription
[23:56:40]<skwashd>omega8cc: correcting
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[23:58:04]<skwashd>omega8cc: done
[23:58:14]<skwashd>how is that for developer response times ;)
[23:59:38]<omega8cc>:)
[00:00:55]<omega8cc>skwashd: the * Beer note is excellent, lol
[00:01:23]<skwashd>omega8cc: morten is offering a free kick in the nuts to any guy who brings shit beer
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[00:02:31]<omega8cc>haha
[00:05:07]<omega8cc>skwashd: only the best beer should be allowed to meet the god of the ocean, that is expected
[00:05:37]<skwashd>lol
[00:08:32]<omega8cc>"inimate atmosphere" - a little typo
[00:10:18]<joestewart>skwashd: good stuff, esp. the good beer. Another typo though - The Geek Rolyale Pad
[00:11:33]<skwashd>typos fixed
[00:11:41]<skwashd>joestewart: will you be in Chicago?
[00:11:58]<joestewart>yes indeed.
[00:12:10]<skwashd>cool
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[00:25:58]<kannary>hello: Super quick question: When increasing php cli memory for OA install on a remote server...Do I need to increase it only for the master server or also for the remote server?
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[00:57:26]<argh>read somewhere that the mysql root password is used by aegir... where in aegir install is that password defined / hashed / stored in any way? other than in the database mysql.user table.
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[01:08:45]<omega8cc>kannary: your OA site will never use php-cli on remote server
[01:09:01]<omega8cc>bah
[01:09:54]<omega8cc>what is the point to ask question and quit a few minutes later?
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[01:12:14]<JoshBenner>Yay for rc1!
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[02:23:52]<EugenMayer>Thanks for rc1
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[02:41:41]<noecc>http://drupal.org/node/1065216
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[02:57:34]<szczym>noecc: it is the wild wild wild internet indeed
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[03:13:32]<hefring>community => Can you rename the main Aegir site by migrating? => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/363
[03:13:32]<hefring>community => Best use of Subversion for Aegir => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/364
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[04:05:15]<hefring>community => How or possible to give non aegir users filesystem access to single site or platform? => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/365
[04:05:15]<hefring>community => Aegir and Drupal 7 => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/366
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[04:58:27]<adrinux>bah. community won't respond to me
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[05:02:13]<CIA-12>aegir/provision: omega8cc * r7835466c0176 /platform/provision_drupal.drush.inc: Fix for dirs removed from the $not_recursive array (Grace)
[05:02:44]<anarcat>adrinux: we have packet loss at the datacenter - our upstream is under attack
[05:03:01]<adrinux>ouch. cheers. I'll try later
[05:04:11]<CIA-12>aegir/provision: omega8cc provision-0.4 * rb5794e7a3dca /platform/provision_drupal.drush.inc: Fix for dirs removed from the $not_recursive array (Grace)
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[05:42:48]<wayback>gday mates
[05:44:30]<wayback>looking for a reasonable comparison on what I should be seeing after running `php /var/aegir/drush/drush.php @hostmaster hosting-tasks --debug`
[05:45:24]<wayback>any one?
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[05:49:42]<wayback>when running this command `php /var/aegir/drush/drush.php @hostmaster hosting-tasks --debug` get notice "Skipping hook functions." are hook functions related to the front end somehow?
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[05:55:49]<wayback>what is the best time to ask a question here?
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[05:56:55]<ryanarmstrong>It's kind of random
[05:57:14]<ryanarmstrong>Sometimes there is a lot of activity, other times everyone is off doing other things
[05:57:29]<wayback>ok..
[05:57:48]<ryanarmstrong>I'm not an expert, but I'll try running that command on my Aegir install
[05:57:59]<wayback>ok, thanks
[05:59:21]<wayback>my issue seems to be front end related and Im trying to figure out how to fix it..
[05:59:32]<ryanarmstrong>hmm weird, I get some errors
[05:59:44]<ryanarmstrong>Bootstrap to phase 0. [0.05 sec, 1.94 MB] [bootstrap]
[05:59:44]<ryanarmstrong>Drush bootstrap phase : _drush_bootstrap_drush() [0.05 sec, 2.14 MB] [bootstrap]
[05:59:44]<ryanarmstrong>Load alias @hostmaster [0.05 sec, 2.15 MB] [notice]
[05:59:44]<ryanarmstrong>Bootstrap to phase 5. [0.07 sec, 4.76 MB] [bootstrap]
[05:59:44]<ryanarmstrong>The drush command '@hostmaster hosting-tasks' could not be found. [error]
[05:59:45]<ryanarmstrong>[0.07 sec, 4.76 MB]
[05:59:45]<ryanarmstrong>A Drupal installation directory could not be found [0.07 sec, 4.77 [error]
[05:59:46]<ryanarmstrong>MB]
[05:59:57]<ryanarmstrong>My Aegir seems to be working just fine though
[06:00:20]<wayback>hm
[06:00:36]<ryanarmstrong>What does yours look like when you run it?
[06:01:46]<wayback>longer...
[06:02:08]<ryanarmstrong>yea, the last two errors don't look good. That's weird
[06:02:22]<wayback>Drush bootstrap phase : _drush_bootstrap_drupal_root() [0.12 sec, 7.77 MB] [bootstrap]
[06:02:28]<wayback>Loading drushrc "/var/aegir/hostmaster-0.4-beta2/drushrc.php" into "drupal" scope. [0.12 sec, 7.77 MB] [bootstrap]
[06:02:35]<wayback>Initialized Drupal 6.20 root directory at /var/aegir/hostmaster-0.4-beta2 [0.13 sec, 8.99 MB] [notice]
[06:02:44]<wayback>Drush bootstrap phase : _drush_bootstrap_drupal_site() [0.15 sec, 9.09 MB] [bootstrap]
[06:02:52]<wayback>Initialized Drupal site aegir.scoopitup.local at sites/aegir.scoopitup.local [0.15 sec, 9.09 MB] [notice]
[06:03:03]<wayback>Loading drushrc "/var/aegir/hostmaster-0.4-beta2/sites/aegir.scoopitup.local/drushrc.php" into "site" scope. [0.15 sec, 9.09 MB] [bootstrap]
[06:03:14]<wayback>Drush bootstrap phase : _drush_bootstrap_drupal_configuration() [0.17 sec, 9.1 MB] [bootstrap]
[06:03:35]<wayback>could more bootstrap notices, and then
[06:03:36]<wayback>Warning: The command callback function hosting_run_queue has a deprecated name. It must begin with drush_hosting_. Skipping hook functions. [0.32 sec, 18.98 MB] [notice]
[06:04:03]<wayback>thats the one Im worried about
[06:04:44]<wayback>because Im having a front end issue, and trying to figure out how to fix it.... not sure if this is related.
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[06:08:57]<wayback>could you try apache2ctl -S for me?
[06:11:27]<ryanarmstrong>sure hting
[06:12:03]<wayback>thanks
[06:14:34]<wayback>i think i used to get a big long list of NameVirtualHost of VirtualHost related errors. not anymore. and i think thats bad, based on my front end problem.
[06:15:03]<wayback>thats NameVirtualHost OR VirtualHost errors (not "of")
[06:17:42]<wayback>what did you get ryanarmstrong?
[06:19:06]<ryanarmstrong>sorry one sec, client called lol
[06:20:29]<wayback>lol
[06:20:30]<wayback>np
[06:25:01]<ryanarmstrong>ok
[06:25:05]<ryanarmstrong>Output:
[06:25:07]<ryanarmstrong>VirtualHost configuration:
[06:25:07]<ryanarmstrong>wildcard NameVirtualHosts and _default_ servers:
[06:25:07]<ryanarmstrong>_default_:443 cent.mrswi.com (/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:81)
[06:25:07]<ryanarmstrong>*:80 is a NameVirtualHost
[06:25:07]<ryanarmstrong> default server default (/var/aegir/config/apache.conf:5)
[06:25:08]<ryanarmstrong> port 80 namevhost default (/var/aegir/config/apache.conf:5)
[06:25:08]<ryanarmstrong> port 80 namevhost cascadetek.iamanoutlier.com (/var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/cascadetek.iamanoutlier.com:1)
[06:25:09]<ryanarmstrong> port 80 namevhost innerskil.iamanoutlier.com (/var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/innerskil.iamanoutlier.com:1)
[06:25:09]<ryanarmstrong> port 80 namevhost outlier.iamanoutlier.com (/var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/outlier.iamanoutlier.com:1)
[06:25:10]<ryanarmstrong> port 80 namevhost paintedstick.outliersolutions.com (/var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/paintedstick.outliersolutions.com:1)
[06:25:10]<ryanarmstrong> port 80 namevhost plastifab.iamanoutlier.com (/var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/plastifab.iamanoutlier.com:1)
[06:25:11]<ryanarmstrong> port 80 namevhost updater.iamanoutlier.com (/var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/updater.iamanoutlier.com:1)
[06:25:11]<ryanarmstrong>Syntax OK
[06:27:37]<wayback>ok.. Ive got 3 lines above "VirtualHost configuration:" that are obviously related to my issue.
[06:28:02]<wayback>the first one is "apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 74.125.226.114 for ServerName"
[06:28:57]<ryanarmstrong>Yea so I had someone setup my aegir server, including apache
[06:29:08]<ryanarmstrong>when I tried ot do it on my own for fun server I got that message
[06:30:42]<ryanarmstrong>But I'm a newbie when it comes to server stuff, so I never got Apache running right lol
[06:31:21]<wayback>I was running - but changed something and in trying to fix it I made things worse.
[06:31:40]<ryanarmstrong>That's exactly when server stuff scares me lol
[06:32:32]<wayback>understand.
[06:33:07]<wayback>apache is up, just something with virtualhosts and aegir is wrong
[06:33:32]<wayback>i get default page to ip address no problem but any virtualhost (including front end) is unavailable.
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[06:55:24]<CIA-12>aegir/hostmaster: anarcat hostmaster-0.4 * raad1c4f4114c /themes/eldir/ (eldir.info page.tpl.php): add footer to the eldir theme
[06:55:28]<CIA-12>aegir/hostmaster: anarcat * rdc4d116d6162 /themes/eldir/ (eldir.info page.tpl.php): add footer to the eldir theme
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[08:23:12]<hangonsloopy>I managed to introduce an error into a fully functional Aegir install. Yay me! I believe when I changed the Server settings I caused the apache vhosts or apache generally to handle the vhosts differently. It was 7 minutes before an automated backup and I didnt realize until too late that something was wrong. Now I need to fix it. Dont know how. Learned about this error, which was not in the error log prior to this issue, j
[08:23:19]<hangonsloopy>"VirtualHost *:80 -- mixing * ports and non-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported, proceeding with undefined results"
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[08:47:02]<hangonsloopy>I know this is a little thing - but it demonstrates an important difference, I think... the favicon was undefined before. now it is an aegir icon.
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[09:08:11]<hangonsloopy>when in doubt, start over.
[09:08:39]<hangonsloopy>so I ran a full system backup. then I re-ran the install script. voila! all set.
[09:09:22]<hangonsloopy>figured the install script couldnt mess it up TOO much more than it was already. and I could always revert to the backup.
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[09:12:00]<V1ntage_>this is utterly strange
[09:12:17]<V1ntage_>the site with private file downloads enabled is a lot faster than with public file downloads
[09:12:29]<V1ntage_>as if the caching doesn't work on public
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[09:22:21]<EugenMayer>V1ntage_: check for rewrite loops
[09:22:44]<V1ntage_>EugenMayer: what do you mean? nginx config?
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[09:39:18]<hefring>community => Importing drupal sites from non-aegir hosting => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/367
[09:39:35]<mathieuhelie>Hi guys, running a standard ubuntu10.04 aegir server, can anyone point me to the file php logs errors to?
[09:40:18]<adrinux>mathieuhelie: /var/log/apache2/error.log
[09:41:57]<mathieuhelie>great thank you
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[10:08:51]<V1ntage_>omega8cc: if I apply a patch manually, doesn't that mess up the whole upgrade routine?
[10:09:11]<V1ntage_>omega8cc: or do the files get downloaded again, instead of incrementally applying patches
[10:12:55]<omega8cc>V1ntage_: you can apply the patch now, on full upgrade the config will be replaced anyway
[10:13:16]<V1ntage_>omega8cc: ah ok, thanks, that's a relief
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[10:22:51]<omega8cc>V1ntage_: after applying the patch you also need to re-verify the server in Aegir at hosting/c/server_master, so it will update the include files in the config/includes directory
[10:23:22]<V1ntage_>omega8cc: that explains it! I was wondering already why it didn't change
[10:23:35]<V1ntage_>omega8cc: fantastic, thanks for your concern :)
[10:23:42]<omega8cc>np
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[10:37:33]<V1ntage_>omega8cc: I'm afraid the patch for WYSIWYG popups doesn't work. I applied it and reverified at both barracuda and octopus, and cleared the cache
[10:37:52]<eft_>adrinux: hi, you still here?
[10:38:05]<adrinux>mostly ::)
[10:38:12]<eft_>:)
[10:38:27]<eft_>have an OT question regarding imagecache
[10:38:46]<omega8cc>V1ntage_: nginx restarted?
[10:38:49]<eft_>do you know how to flip images horizontally or vertically ?
[10:38:54]<V1ntage_>omega8cc: good idea, lemme try
[10:39:03]<omega8cc>service nginx reload
[10:39:17]<V1ntage_>omega8cc: yeah, already did it over etc/init.d
[10:39:34]<V1ntage_>have to look that one up, what the difference is
[10:39:36]<adrinux>eft_: using GD? no idea
[10:39:56]<eft_>imagemagik :)
[10:40:00]<adrinux>eft_: but probably easy enough to figure out with imagemagick
[10:40:16]<V1ntage_>omega8cc: restarted and still the same issue
[10:40:21]<V1ntage_>hmz
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[10:41:58]<adrinux>eft_ I think the command is 'flip' …loking for docs
[10:41:58]<omega8cc>V1ntage_: this site is hosted in the Barracuda or Octopus hostmaster?
[10:42:12]<V1ntage_>octopus
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[10:42:36]<adrinux>eft_ flip and flop http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#flip
[10:42:59]<omega8cc>V1ntage_: so you patched provision in that Octopus, not in /var/aegir, right?
[10:43:16]<V1ntage_>erm, lemme check again
[10:43:48]<V1ntage_> /var/aegir/config/includes/ and /data/disk/thomas/config/includes/
[10:43:53]<V1ntage_>so both
[10:44:41]<eft_>adrinux: tx, but do I need http://drupal.org/project/im_raw to integrate with D6?
[10:45:14]<adrinux>eft_: either that or write your own custom imagecache action
[10:46:49]<adrinux>eft_: that would allow for some fun site hacking. "help! why are all my images upside down!"
[10:47:04]<V1ntage_>omega8cc: ooh, now I see something
[10:47:15]<V1ntage_>omega8cc: cron isn't run for octopus
[10:47:17]<V1ntage_>strange
[10:47:33]<V1ntage_>it worked before upgrading to the latest stable
[10:48:15]<eft_>adrinux: what do think is easier? install your module and follow your blog post as an example?
[10:48:17]<eft_>http://perlucida.com/blog/features/css-sprites-using-imagecache-and-imag...
[10:48:22]<omega8cc>V1ntage_: and you can confirm the /data/disk/thomas/config/includes/nginx_simple_include.conf matches the version from https://github.com/omega8cc/provision/blob/master/http/nginx/nginx_simpl...
[10:48:25]<omega8cc>hmm
[10:49:11]<adrinux>eft_: what do you actually want to do?
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[10:49:51]<adrinux>eft_: if it's just to create two different presets, one to flip, one to flop, then yeah, im_raw is easy
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[10:51:26]<eft_>I think that may be the best way to pilot it - I just want to create a kind of mirror image effect on some images
[10:51:46]<adrinux>eft_: you know imagecache actions?
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[10:52:30]<eft_>I looked but I don't think flip is available in that module (at elast for imagemagick)
[10:53:11]<adrinux>no, but im_raw is basically and imagecache action that lets you type an imagemagick command, instead of say height and width like you would for the scale action
[10:53:32]<adrinux>you can even use im_raw along with other imagecache actions
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[10:54:05]<eft_>yes, that's why I was pleasantly surprised to see your name as maintainer :)
[10:54:52]<eft_>is it stable under D6? I see a few whiners in the issue Q
[10:55:26]<adrinux> eft_ yeah, I don't think there are any issues for d6, mostly people get confused
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[10:55:49]<adrinux>which probably means I need to work on the UI a little :)
[10:56:09]<adrinux>it would of course help if people actually read the instructions
[10:56:41]<eft_>I empathize with you on that score :)
[10:56:44]<adrinux>I'm using it with d7 already, without issues
[10:57:48]<eft_>adrinux: thanks - I gotta go - but at least I know where you live ;)
[10:58:11]<adrinux>yeah, feel free to ask if you have issues
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[10:58:29]<V1ntage_>omega8cc: nginx_simple, advanced and compact are up to date, verified the server and reloaded nginx
[10:58:32]<V1ntage_>omega8cc: no change
[10:58:33]<eft_>thanks - will do
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[10:59:06]<V1ntage_>omega8cc: this is really weird, because it worked with an earlier version of barracuda/octopus
[10:59:40]<EugenMayer>when having the platform in the context fo d() ... how to get to its serveR? d($platform)->server->remote_host always returns aegir somehow