| [11:00:03] | <EugenMayer> | (which is @server_master actually) |
| [11:00:46] | <EugenMayer> | expected to have d()->service('http')->remote_host working .. but its empty |
| [11:01:06] | <omega8cc> | V1ntage_: we changed the order of locations to speed up rewrites and add some security related stuff, but I believe this patch fixed the problem, could you post some details/screenshot etc to help debugging it on github queue? |
| [11:01:27] | <V1ntage_> | omega8cc: sure, what do I need to do? |
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| [11:02:39] | <omega8cc> | V1ntage_: post your steps to reproduce the issue, add some screenshot maybe so we will know we are trying the same thing |
| [11:03:41] | <V1ntage_> | omega8cc: I'm not if I can reproduce it actually :/ I would need to give you server access I think |
| [11:03:46] | <V1ntage_> | I can post some sceenshots |
| [11:03:50] | <V1ntage_> | but that's what you told me to do |
| [11:04:05] | <V1ntage_> | I meant, I'm not sure* |
| [11:05:01] | <V1ntage_> | omega8cc: thing is that this isn't a default drupal setup, I can try to create one though |
| [11:05:13] | <V1ntage_> | lemme see |
| [11:06:30] | <omega8cc> | V1ntage_: please make a screenshot, and explain what doesn't work for you in the queue, so we can check it further, I don't plan to be online now longer than a few minutes probably |
| [11:06:40] | <V1ntage_> | ahh ok |
| [11:06:57] | <V1ntage_> | yes of course, I thought you wanted me to recreate the issue |
| [11:07:06] | <omega8cc> | it is 1 am here |
| [11:07:14] | <V1ntage_> | over here as well :) |
| [11:07:28] | <V1ntage_> | but, sweet dreams :) |
| [11:08:42] | <omega8cc> | I had a busy week and need some break, but Albert will follow the issue on github |
| [11:08:45] | <omega8cc> | thanks |
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| [11:20:03] | <ryanarmstrong> | Anyone have any experience using mig5's frigg script on a Rackspace server? |
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| [11:42:13] | <mig5> | ryanarmstrong: um, I do :) |
| [11:43:45] | <mig5> | ryanarmstrong: did you find it didn't install any of the dependencies? |
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| [11:44:51] | <ryanarmstrong> | haha |
| [11:44:55] | <ryanarmstrong> | I suppose you would ;) |
| [11:45:30] | <ryanarmstrong> | Well I ran the script after installing the scripts dependencies, but it seems it didn't install apache, php, aegir or anything else |
| [11:45:54] | <ryanarmstrong> | It talked to my Rackspace account and made a server, but it mostly seems to be just a blank server |
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| [11:46:18] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [11:46:25] | <mig5> | https://github.com/mig5/frigg/commit/94928c214c7187bdfaeaabd40b2e7539c76... |
| [11:46:40] | <mig5> | i had been using this but forgot to commit it, just did now as i had a feeling that was the issue you were about to say you had :) |
| [11:46:58] | <mig5> | it's a stopgap,something wrong with debian's repos at the moment that requires extra 'are you sure' when apt-getting |
| [11:47:02] | <mig5> | an ugly fix but it works. |
| [11:47:06] | <ryanarmstrong> | ahhh ok |
| [11:47:16] | <mig5> | so try that and it should work :) sorry about that |
| [11:47:17] | <ryanarmstrong> | ok |
| [11:47:57] | <ryanarmstrong> | Yea so after that happened, I went through the script, and figured that the part it got stuck on was the one where it was supposed to install all of the goodies |
| [11:48:09] | <ryanarmstrong> | I then grabbed that command and just pasted and ran in in terminal |
| [11:48:35] | <ryanarmstrong> | and it gave me that message saying you couldn't use -y without —force-yes. So I made that very modification |
| [11:48:42] | <ryanarmstrong> | Not realizing someone had already solved it lol |
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| [11:49:14] | <mig5> | yeah it's unfortunate as you could be cooerced into installing untrusted packages with --force-yes if someone tampered with your sources.list |
| [11:49:18] | <mig5> | which is what the warning is about |
| [11:49:22] | <mig5> | some pubkey issue with one of the debian repos |
| [11:49:24] | <ryanarmstrong> | Anyways so I ran your script again, and this time it said: Provisioning server and running deployment processes |
| [11:49:26] | <mig5> | in this case it's probably safe, but yeah |
| [11:49:37] | <ryanarmstrong> | and it just sat there for an hour :( |
| [11:49:41] | <mig5> | erk |
| [11:49:47] | <ryanarmstrong> | so that's where I'm at now |
| [11:49:54] | <mig5> | yeah it should not take more than a few minutes |
| [11:50:08] | <ryanarmstrong> | yea, so I'm not sure what's going on |
| [11:50:12] | <mig5> | see if you can login to the server and see if it'sdoing anything |
| [11:50:42] | <ryanarmstrong> | I killed the process a bit ago, and was going to try running again from scratch |
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| [11:50:46] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [11:50:53] | <mig5> | may as well |
| [11:51:06] | <ryanarmstrong> | Is there some way to make it "verbose" so if it hangs again, I might know where it's happening? |
| [11:51:11] | <mig5> | frigg is a bit crude in its error checking |
| [11:51:15] | <mig5> | hmm |
| [11:51:49] | <mig5> | y'know i'm not sure.. basically it implements the 'deploy_node' function in libcloud api and it's a bit smoke and mirrors sometimes. i'll look into if there's a debug switch for libcloud |
| [11:51:58] | <ryanarmstrong> | ok |
| [11:52:09] | <mig5> | often i simply ssh in to the new server after i see it's been created, and watch the output of ps |
| [11:52:14] | <ryanarmstrong> | I got excited because it's meant for my exact use case. Rackspace Cloud and Debian lol |
| [11:52:18] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [11:52:28] | <mig5> | it works for me usually, have only really come across the apt issue |
| [11:52:32] | <ryanarmstrong> | I'm a newbie to server level stuff unfortuantely |
| [11:52:38] | <mig5> | sometimse rackspace cloud itself brings up a machine and the networking isn't working right |
| [11:52:50] | <mig5> | seen it in maybe 1 in 100 cases |
| [11:52:59] | <mig5> | reboot the server and it's ok again, but of course it breaks frigg |
| [11:53:03] | <ryanarmstrong> | I tried just doing the regular install of Aegir, but I couldn't even get Apache going lol |
| [11:53:14] | <ryanarmstrong> | *sigh* |
| [11:53:26] | <mig5> | dude you can just copy and paste the commands, a manual install of aegir is exactly those lines in frigg :) |
| [11:53:31] | <mig5> | apt-get install apache etc... |
| [11:53:34] | <mig5> | down install.sh and run it |
| [11:53:42] | <ryanarmstrong> | Yea I was thinking of doing that if the script doesn't work |
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| [11:53:59] | <mig5> | i'll try a frigg install now, did one yesterday just prior to release |
| [11:56:24] | <ryanarmstrong> | Ok, I'm trying another run with frigg as well |
| [11:57:42] | <mig5> | all done here |
| [11:57:45] | <mig5> | took maybe 4 min |
| [11:58:04] | <mig5> | you get a few more messages when it completes |
| [11:58:08] | <mig5> | Provisioning complete, you can ssh as root to xx.xxx.xx.xx |
| [11:58:12] | <mig5> | The root user's password is aegir.mig5-test.net3gUwdC32B |
| [11:58:16] | <mig5> | The root MySQL user's password is xlz9r5d4 |
| [11:58:18] | <mig5> | Check your e-mail for the Login url to the Aegir frontend |
| [11:59:35] | <ryanarmstrong> | yea seems to be the same thing. weirdness |
| [11:59:48] | <ryanarmstrong> | well I can just run the scripts one by one and see what happens |
| [11:59:59] | <ryanarmstrong> | So one way or the other frigg will be helping me out lol |
| [12:00:39] | <ryanarmstrong> | Just in case this helps you, when I control + c and interrupt the process, I get this outpout |
| [12:00:50] | <ryanarmstrong> | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| [12:00:50] | <ryanarmstrong> | File "frigg", line 103, in <module> |
| [12:00:50] | <ryanarmstrong> | main() |
| [12:00:50] | <ryanarmstrong> | File "frigg", line 94, in main |
| [12:00:50] | <ryanarmstrong> | node = conn.deploy_node(name=domain, image=preferred_image[0], size=preferred_size[0], deploy=msd) |
| [12:00:51] | <ryanarmstrong> | File "build/bdist.macosx-10.6-intel/egg/libcloud/base.py", line 693, in deploy_node |
| [12:00:51] | <ryanarmstrong> | File "build/bdist.macosx-10.6-intel/egg/libcloud/deployment.py", line 129, in run |
| [12:00:52] | <ryanarmstrong> | File "build/bdist.macosx-10.6-intel/egg/libcloud/deployment.py", line 95, in run |
| [12:00:52] | <ryanarmstrong> | File "build/bdist.macosx-10.6-intel/egg/libcloud/ssh.py", line 168, in run |
| [12:00:53] | <ryanarmstrong> | File "build/bdist.macosx-10.6-intel/egg/paramiko/channel.py", line 297, in recv_exit_status |
| [12:00:53] | <ryanarmstrong> | File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/threading.py", line 394, in wait |
| [12:00:54] | <ryanarmstrong> | self.__cond.wait(timeout) |
| [12:00:54] | <ryanarmstrong> | File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/threading.py", line 257, in wait |
| [12:00:55] | <ryanarmstrong> | _sleep(delay) |
| [12:04:50] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [12:05:14] | <mig5> | i reckon the machine that gets built is not coming up with its networking working properly |
| [12:05:25] | <mig5> | so after the machine isbuilt, the deploy_node in libcloud tries to ssh into it and do $stuff |
| [12:05:42] | <mig5> | and isn't able to, but rather than just get a 'connection refused', it just times out |
| [12:05:47] | <mig5> | or hangs indefinitely |
| [12:05:52] | <ryanarmstrong> | *sad trombone* |
| [12:05:54] | <mig5> | i'll try to put in more error checking |
| [12:06:02] | <ryanarmstrong> | Ah well, I can just do it manually using your script |
| [12:06:07] | <mig5> | but it worked here - maybe your account is tied to a different DC |
| [12:06:11] | <mig5> | i am in ORD i think |
| [12:06:20] | <mig5> | i.e maybe it's a problem in that specific DC |
| [12:06:58] | <ryanarmstrong> | The one it created was in ORD I believe. Or at least one of my attempts was |
| [12:07:11] | <ryanarmstrong> | But I can just let RS do its thing, then ssh in and run the commands myself |
| [12:07:17] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [12:07:25] | <ryanarmstrong> | Thanks so much for the script btw |
| [12:07:33] | <mig5> | thats ok, sorry it's not working for you |
| [12:07:48] | <mig5> | don't be scared of the manual install, it's all copy-paste these days :) |
| [12:07:54] | <ryanarmstrong> | eh well it's not doing everything for me perhaps, but it still gives me the exact commands to do a full install |
| [12:07:59] | <mig5> | people really only trip upwhen their server hasn't got a FQDN etc |
| [12:07:59] | <mig5> | yep |
| [12:08:41] | <ryanarmstrong> | ick I think that's what messed me up when I was trying to do it all myself |
| [12:08:55] | <ryanarmstrong> | Kept saying that there wasn't a FQDN so it just used the IP |
| [12:09:56] | <mig5> | you can just fudge your /etc/hosts file with the fqdn. or when you create your server in rackspace, make its name the FQDN (and then rackspace will fudge your hosts file for you - that's why frigg 'just works') |
| [12:10:01] | <mig5> | er, except in your case :s |
| [12:10:06] | <ryanarmstrong> | :( |
| [12:10:40] | <ryanarmstrong> | This is likely a dumb Q, but is a FQDN like your www.mydomain.com? |
| [12:10:45] | <ryanarmstrong> | versus an IP |
| [12:11:52] | <mig5> | es, it stands for 'fully qualified domain name' |
| [12:12:00] | <anarcat> | hey mig5 |
| [12:12:00] | <mig5> | i.e something someone should be able to use that resolves to your public IP |
| [12:12:04] | <mig5> | hi anarcat |
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| [12:12:25] | <anarcat> | wassup |
| [12:12:44] | <ryanarmstrong> | ah ok, so like a registered domain name who's A record points to your server iP? |
| [12:13:31] | <mig5> | ryanarmstrong: right, but it doesn't *have* to be registered, just has to be something presumably people could reach (you can make an IP resolve to anything in your /etc/hosts for example) |
| [12:13:41] | <ryanarmstrong> | Ok that's what I thought |
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| [12:15:22] | <EugenMayer1> | ryanarmstrong: the FQDN is hostname + domain |
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| [12:16:04] | <EugenMayer1> | ryanarmstrong: type hostname in the shell. That should be only one part , hostname -f should show the whole domain |
| [12:16:48] | <EugenMayer1> | ryanarmstrong: if you your hostname is "aegir", and your domain is "yourdomain.com", you hostname command will return "aegir", and hostname -f "aegir.yourdomain.com". |
| [12:17:20] | <EugenMayer1> | if hostname is "aegir.yourdomain.com", you did set your DNS / /etc/hosts file wrong |
| [12:18:11] | <EugenMayer1> | the "domain" setting in /etc/resolv.conf is AFAIK deprecated and e.g. not used by "dig" |
| [12:18:50] | <V1ntage_> | is it safe to remove old platforms after doing an upgrade? |
| [12:19:11] | <anarcat> | yes |
| [12:19:13] | <V1ntage_> | like 002 and 003 |
| [12:19:17] | <V1ntage_> | ? |
| [12:19:21] | <EugenMayer1> | be sure to use the task for it |
| [12:19:29] | <V1ntage_> | ok thanks :) |
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| [12:19:45] | <EugenMayer1> | otherwise you will have ghost drush aliases / platform.d files arround |
| [12:20:46] | <ryanarmstrong> | EugenMayer1: Thanks for the info, that was helpful. |
| [12:20:52] | <V1ntage_> | EugenMayer1: yeah I try to use the frontend as much as possible |
| [12:21:31] | <V1ntage_> | in fact, I almost exclusively use the frontend now, apart from drush dl and drush en |
| [12:22:05] | <mig5> | you can do that from install profiles / drush_make :) |
| [12:23:15] | <V1ntage_> | mig5, so I have to create a new platform for every upgrade? |
| [12:23:34] | <EugenMayer1> | upgdate.sh.txt does that for you |
| [12:23:36] | <mig5> | it's a good practice to |
| [12:23:50] | <mig5> | unless you're talking about the Aegir upgrade itself (In which case what EugenMayer1 just said is correct) |
| [12:24:00] | <mig5> | for oyur regular platforms, yes build new platforms to migrate your sites to |
| [12:24:16] | <mig5> | and then delete the old ones |
| [12:24:24] | <EugenMayer1> | well if you are going to use "platforms" for updates like i do, you going to get crazy with the current implementation of "migrate" and "backup" |
| [12:24:58] | <mig5> | yes, but we aren't discussing whether it should be that way or not, just that is currently the best way:) |
| [12:25:10] | <EugenMayer1> | with my new migrate-ng / backup-slim the migration takes 20s instead of ~8 minutes |
| [12:26:02] | <EugenMayer1> | mig5: you should point people to drush.ws/help/docs on the API docs |
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| [12:26:13] | <mig5> | why me? |
| [12:26:22] | <mig5> | you mean on api.aegirproject.org? |
| [12:26:24] | <V1ntage_> | wow, this is strange, if I clear the cache of my aegir instance, half of the verified elements in the task queue are suddenly reset |
| [12:26:35] | <V1ntage_> | and aegir restarts verifying them |
| [12:26:38] | <EugenMayer1> | (the drush). Just to point out where those hooks are described. Makes it easier to close the gap between the hosting and provision |
| [12:26:44] | <V1ntage_> | seems like it shows as being verified, but isn't |
| [12:27:06] | <mig5> | EugenMayer1: oh you mean the phpdoc itself in our code |
| [12:27:11] | <EugenMayer1> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/33 |
| [12:27:20] | <EugenMayer1> | here. |
| [12:27:21] | <mig5> | right |
| [12:27:31] | <mig5> | well that's a wiki page right? go right ahead and edit it :) |
| [12:27:35] | <V1ntage_> | mig5, EugenMayer1, you don't happen to know what could cause that? |
| [12:27:38] | <EugenMayer1> | i can edit? |
| [12:27:44] | <mig5> | EugenMayer1: i can't mark it as a duplicate ;D |
| [12:27:49] | <mig5> | you should be able to: can you not? |
| [12:27:57] | <EugenMayer1> | didnt try |
| [12:28:10] | * anarcat marks mig5 as duplicate of anarcat |
| [12:28:26] | * anarcat puts his asbestos suit on (we're in canada, got plenty of that cancer shit!) |
| [12:28:31] | <EugenMayer1> | it took me ~6hours today to understand the context archtecture |
| [12:28:52] | <EugenMayer1> | and implement the new migrate-ng as a task. what i still dont get it how you implemented |
| [12:28:56] | <anarcat> | EugenMayer1: i have been working on it for ~6 months and i still haven't figured it all out, so you're lucky :P |
| [12:29:14] | <mig5> | +1 |
| [12:29:28] | <EugenMayer1> | XXXXX.provision.inc .. as this does not match the drush api, while the hooks you use are the same name. Its much nicer the way you did it, due the much nice filenames |
| [12:29:32] | <mig5> | EugenMayer1: i don't feel like getting into a big discussion on my weekend, but i will say i agree with you on most of your points about it being hard to unravel the code |
| [12:29:33] | <EugenMayer1> | but it ahs driven me nuts.. |
| [12:29:46] | <mig5> | don't make the mistake of thinking you're the only one: even us devs don't understand it, and that sucks |
| [12:29:56] | * anarcat steps away |
| [12:29:57] | <anarcat> | take care |
| [12:30:11] | <mig5> | you have been looking at it only recently, try and understand that i feel the same, for 2 years, and i spend a lot of time answering duplicate tickets, and yes i did go overboard there |
| [12:30:29] | <V1ntage_> | anyone? please? clearing the cache resets the verified items in the issue queue, is this normal? |
| [12:30:55] | <EugenMayer1> | i mean it did take me 1.5 hours to understand how to get to the "server" what actually dealing with the context of a platform / site |
| [12:30:59] | <mig5> | V1ntage_: i've not seen cache clearing do that, are you sure the items weren't just being queued up anyway ()common on an upgrade of aegir) |
| [12:31:37] | <EugenMayer1> | as its private and you wont ever get the correct remote_host without actually finding out about get_config() .. |
| [12:31:38] | <V1ntage_> | mig5 no they were verified before, and now the list is being verified again... and when it completes and I clear the cache, it starts over |
| [12:31:42] | <V1ntage_> | bug? |
| [12:31:42] | <mig5> | EugenMayer1: take for example darthsteven here, who is writing about provision contexts http://community.aegirproject.org/node/319 |
| [12:31:58] | <mig5> | that guy is teaching *me* how it works, and it's great. i encourage you to do the same :) |
| [12:32:04] | <mig5> | as you'll probably figure it all out sooner than i will (same as him) |
| [12:32:19] | <EugenMayer1> | yes it is great, no doubt |
| [12:32:21] | <mig5> | V1ntage_: perhaps a bug, i'll try and reproduce, i've never seen that |
| [12:32:44] | <V1ntage_> | mig5 should I revert to a backup from last week on a non-updated aegir installation? |
| [12:32:53] | <EugenMayer1> | d('@alias') and you all have it. But still you wont be able to get the remote host with d('@alias')->service('http')->remote_host |
| [12:33:18] | <mig5> | there should be a server attribute of the alias |
| [12:33:19] | <mig5> | anyway |
| [12:33:37] | <ryanarmstrong> | Ok, thanks for all of the help guys. Off to the bars! ;) |
| [12:34:12] | <EugenMayer1> | That one is really pain. if you wont to compare / get if the server during the migration stays "the same" so you can use "local copy" on the server, instead of wasting time by comping them to the master and back, it took me crazy |
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| [12:34:51] | <EugenMayer1> | mig5: iam pretty sure something is fishy with the dashboard on rc1. Takes ages to load. Happned since i upgraded from b2 |
| [12:34:57] | * arianekWORK is now known as arianek_afk |
| [12:35:12] | <mig5> | might be the bulk operations task stuff |
| [12:35:35] | <EugenMayer1> | well the loading time increased by the factor of ~10 ? |
| [12:35:40] | <mig5> | http://git.aegirproject.org/?p=hostmaster.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ac2c5fe7c9... |
| [12:35:46] | <mig5> | see if reverting that improves it. |
| [12:35:52] | <EugenMayer1> | and bulk is not working correct either, always taking only one site. Even if you makr more |
| [12:35:59] | <EugenMayer1> | ok, will try |
| [12:36:28] | * mig5 going to go and try to have a weekend |
| [12:36:31] | <EugenMayer1> | I think its just a bug due to the drupal_goto after a delete |
| [12:36:40] | <EugenMayer1> | simply cuts of VBO |
| [12:36:51] | <EugenMayer1> | yeah its 2:36 here, i have to rush into bed. |
| [12:38:15] | <EugenMayer1> | n8 |
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| [12:49:38] | <anarcat> | whoohoo! friday night aegir party! |
| [12:49:45] | <anarcat> | hey, where did everybody go? |
| [12:50:50] | <mig5> | lol |
| [12:50:56] | <mig5> | oh who am i kidding, i am still here :s |
| [12:51:06] | <anarcat> | :P |
| [12:51:07] | <anarcat> | gotcha :P |
| [12:51:10] | <mig5> | fuck |
| [12:51:16] | <mig5> | :) |
| [12:51:17] | <V1ntage_> | xD |
| [12:51:19] | <anarcat> | go go go to your weekend :) |
| [12:51:22] | <mig5> | i am a duplicate of you after all |
| [12:51:27] | <anarcat> | i'll fend off the trolls ;) |
| [12:51:28] | <anarcat> | hehe |
| [12:51:29] | <V1ntage_> | hahahaha |
| [12:51:35] | <anarcat> | redundancy man |
| [12:51:39] | <anarcat> | that's the thing |
| [12:51:47] | <anarcat> | geographical, timezone, political redundancy |
| [12:51:48] | <anarcat> | we kick ass |
| [12:51:52] | <mig5> | if only we were redundant |
| [12:53:35] | <anarcat> | well, we're pretty close |
| [12:55:56] | <anarcat> | aaanyways |
| [12:56:05] | <anarcat> | i should get off this stuuuupid machine |
| [12:56:19] | <anarcat> | and get drunk |
| [12:56:20] | <anarcat> | or something |
| [12:56:41] | <anarcat> | mig5: and so should you |
| [12:56:48] | <anarcat> | although it may be a bit early over there :) |
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| [13:30:06] | <mig5> | too early to get drunk?? |
| [13:30:08] | <mig5> | syntax error |
| [13:31:00] | <mig5> | i've been doing accounting #weekendfail |
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| [13:35:53] | <V1ntage_> | time to get some sleep, laters all :) |
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| [13:46:50] | <anarcat> | mig5: ow |
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| [15:39:05] | <AntiNSA> | how can I remove the block from incorrect logins? Im sorry omegga8cc told me once and I have since forgot. |
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| [21:15:17] | <Letharion> | I had an old aegir install listed as a platform in my new upgraded one. I considered it clutter and removed it, and this must have removed an important piece of config, because now each site I try to visit returns "The requested URL / was not found on this server". I'm not an apache expert, but as far as I can tell, the necessary files are in place. httpd.conf includes the aegir main config, which exists and includes a number of |
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| [21:30:09] | <EugenMayer> | Letharion: restart the apache server once |
| [21:30:36] | <EugenMayer> | how did you remove the old platform? Using drush cli, the frontend or by hand? |
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| [21:33:38] | <Letharion> | EugenMayer: Through the frontend. Ok, I tried restarting the server. Same result, looking in logs for anything intersting... |
| [21:33:57] | <EugenMayer> | apache2ctl -s |
| [21:33:59] | <EugenMayer> | -S |
| [21:35:27] | <Letharion> | apache2ctl -S => ERROR: wrong args ( -S ) |
| [21:35:40] | <Letharion> | Usage: apache2 { configdump|configtest|fullstatus|graceful|gracefulstop|modules|reload|virtualhosts } |
| [21:36:42] | <Letharion> | There's nothing looking like an error message in the log from the restart. Just "Caught sigterm", and then "Resuming normal operations" |
| [21:37:01] | <EugenMayer> | apache2ctl -S |
| [21:37:04] | <EugenMayer> | there is a space |
| [21:37:51] | <EugenMayer> | what OS is this? |
| [21:38:55] | <Letharion> | EugenMayer: I'm not sure if I understand what you mean with the space. I pastebined here: http://pastebin.com/VUK09p1B for completeness. |
| [21:39:12] | <Letharion> | EugenMayer: It's Gentoo Linux |
| [21:39:30] | <EugenMayer> | a Server on Gentoo and you dont have expertise on Apache? |
| [21:40:03] | <EugenMayer> | That sounds like suicide :) Anyway strange that -S does not exist under gentoo |
| [21:40:23] | <Letharion> | I'm the suicudal type of guy :) |
| [21:40:43] | <EugenMayer> | Are you experienced with linux generally? |
| [21:40:45] | <Letharion> | What exactly would you expect -S to return? |
| [21:41:33] | <EugenMayer> | The parsed vhosts |
| [21:43:27] | <EugenMayer> | Seriously, you seem like you just a beginner with all this LAMP stuff. Taking Gentoo as a server at this level is wasting on time. |
| [21:43:59] | <EugenMayer> | You might consider taking debian which is also better supported by aegir in general and helps you a lot learning those stuff |
| [21:44:24] | <EugenMayer> | be sure to check http://drupal.org/node/837704 |
| [21:46:51] | <Letharion> | EugenMayer: I appreciate the advice :) I must admit that debian is not a distro I have tried. Not sure if it's a fair comparision, but I do prefer gentoo a great deal over ubuntu. |
| [21:47:12] | <EugenMayer> | i have used gentoo for years |
| [21:47:33] | <EugenMayer> | used debian for server for over 10 years now and using ubuntu on desktop since 3 years |
| [21:47:53] | <EugenMayer> | what ever you prefer for your desktop is kind of a taste and time question ( gentoo is a time eater ) |
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| [21:48:18] | <EugenMayer> | But on server, gentoo is only for "full time 24/7 nerd server administrators" |
| [21:48:31] | <Letharion> | The time eater part I can't argue with |
| [21:48:54] | <EugenMayer> | Gentoo is cool - but on servers - never ever :) |
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| [21:50:24] | <Letharion> | "apache2ctl virtualhosts" returns the vhosts. Where I have, among a long list of others: port 80 namevhost default (/var/aegir/config/apache.conf:5) |
| [21:51:25] | <Letharion> | EugenMayer: I'm just learning intersting stuff, and gentoo has worked as a platform for that for quite a while now. If you don't feel like supporting that, I completely understand that it's quite non-standard :) |
| [21:51:54] | <EugenMayer> | yeah that "non standard" plays a role in stuff like aegir |
| [21:52:13] | <EugenMayer> | it needs a lot of additional knowledge to deal with the extra configuration :) |
| [21:53:23] | <Letharion> | Yeah, but that's can't be a really big issue. I've been running this aegir instance for around a year by now, and it's been working flawlessly since install, until I removed the older platform. |
| [21:53:36] | <Letharion> | "this can't" |
| [21:54:18] | <EugenMayer> | well in general removing the older platform does not create any issues |
| [21:54:36] | <EugenMayer> | until the upgrade was not kind of broken or simila |
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| [21:58:14] | <EugenMayer> | Just to repeat, after deleting the old platform, every of you localy deployed sites ( on the server_master ) are not working anymore, means you get redirected |
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| [22:01:00] | <Letharion> | EugenMayer: Ok, thank you for your time. I'll have to try and figure out why the vhosts doesn't work. |
| [22:01:24] | <EugenMayer> | be sure you bind on the right IP |
| [22:01:33] | <EugenMayer> | check the apache.cond of aegir |
| [22:04:02] | <Letharion> | EugenMayer: Unfortunately I don't have more time for this at the moment. Again, I really appreciate your took your time :) |
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| [22:04:22] | <EugenMayer> | couldnt help you much :) |
| [22:04:31] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: ping |
| [22:07:00] | <EugenMayer> | mig5: there seems to be a serious bug in rc1. You cannot migrate a site anymore. the post hook fails to set the grants on the database. This happens due to and context issue |
| [22:07:09] | <EugenMayer> | if you migrate from remote 1 to remote 2 |
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| [22:07:49] | <EugenMayer> | starting with rc1 remote 1 is trying to connect to remote 2 for granting, instead the server_master ... in my case thats not even possible by network, neither by permissions. |
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| [22:08:10] | <EugenMayer> | can someone verify this? |
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| [22:09:48] | <EugenMayer> | http://git.aegirproject.org/?p=provision.git;a=history;f=platform/migrat... |
| [22:09:52] | <EugenMayer> | hm no changes here |
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| [22:11:17] | <EugenMayer> | http://git.aegirproject.org/?p=provision.git;a=history;f=db/migrate.prov... |
| [22:11:25] | <EugenMayer> | should be rather here, but also here no changes. |
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| [23:53:44] | <skwashd> | it's official https://twitter.com/#!/mortendk/status/38943708753829888 |
| [23:53:58] | <skwashd> | http://intimateaegir.eventbrite.com/ |
| [00:00:29] | <skwashd> | it's also official that i must sleep |
| [00:00:31] | <skwashd> | night |
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| [03:25:51] | <EugenMayer> | When a site is migrated and the migration failed, but after the database has been created ( imported the dump ), iam getting into trouble loading the "new created" database context with d('@alias')->destroy.. to remove the database on rollback. As the sites have the same alias, i cant get into the right context, always deleting the old database ( which should stay due the rollback ). platform/migrate.provision.inc ... somebody a hint on |
| [03:45:23] | <anarcat> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/369 |
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| [04:02:10] | <hefring> | community => How about joining the drupal.org family back again? => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/369 |
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| [06:30:44] | <EugenMayer> | jlkinsel: from b2? |
| [06:31:55] | <jlkinsel> | yea |
| [06:32:45] | <jlkinsel> | straightening out a new backup system, first... |
| [06:35:11] | <EugenMayer> | well b2->rc1 works pretty perfect |
| [06:35:20] | <EugenMayer> | OS *deb ? |
| [06:35:28] | <jlkinsel> | centos |
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| [07:03:03] | <EugenMayer> | so many bugs in aegit migrate :/ |
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| [07:10:47] | <jlkinsel> | EugenMayer: oh? was sorta hoping to use it to migrae some sites from old server to new... |
| [07:11:07] | <EugenMayer> | well its not robust in any way. |
| [07:12:03] | <EugenMayer> | e.g. drush_hook_provision_apache_vhost_config is called without drush options druing migrate, losing your extra vhost settings, potentially brakes your site |
| [07:12:14] | <EugenMayer> | the whole files management is a mess. |
| [07:12:21] | <jlkinsel> | hm |
| [07:12:32] | <EugenMayer> | If a migrate fails, the DB is not deleted ( the one being cloned ) |
| [07:12:59] | <EugenMayer> | if migrate fails at specific points it is unrecoverable and in addition you cant cleanup. You have to do it by hand |
| [07:13:14] | <hefring> | community => Install process like Buzzr or Drupal Gardens? => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/370 |
| [07:13:43] | * jlkinsel decides to delay that rc1 upgrade |
| [07:13:47] | <EugenMayer> | And with more complex installation you most probably run into issue with file-permisisons in files |
| [07:13:54] | <EugenMayer> | its not a rc1 issue |
| [07:14:01] | <jlkinsel> | yeah I've been scratching my head 'bout file perms |
| [07:14:01] | <EugenMayer> | rc1 is better then b2 by far. |
| [07:14:38] | <EugenMayer> | i have reimplemted migrate completly after finding out what the reasons is for those file permissions issue.. |
| [07:14:50] | <jlkinsel> | i guess i'm thinking of multi-site migration, not just on the same box. I've got aegir happy on one box right now, |
| [07:15:07] | <EugenMayer> | well iam talking about remote-client issues |
| [07:15:11] | <EugenMayer> | most of them are |
| [07:15:34] | <eft> | EugenMayer: why are you working against, instead of with, the Aegir community? |
| [07:15:47] | <EugenMayer> | eft: i wont even argue on this. |
| [07:16:33] | <eft> | Well IMHO you are doing a great disservice to the volunteers who have brought Aegir to this point in its evolution |
| [07:16:46] | <EugenMayer> | O.k. |
| [07:18:08] | <eft> | You want to ride on their coat tails and then, when it suits you, you feel it is your perogative to criticize the existing code base instead of helping fix issues |
| [07:19:33] | <eft> | It's your choice of course but I don't think it benefits you or the project in the long term |
| [07:19:57] | <EugenMayer> | eft: The question here is, how i harm the project. By not helping? |
| [07:20:01] | <EugenMayer> | 95% arent helping. |
| [07:20:56] | <eft> | I'm aware of numerous ways that you are harming the project - let me suggest a few |
| [07:21:35] | <eft> | 1. you are spreading FUD about the project in IRC and the issues queues |
| [07:22:10] | <eft> | 2. you are creating duplicate issues, I gather, when the devs are stretched enough as it is |
| [07:23:04] | <eft> | 3. you are developing your own branches because you don't seem to like the feedback to the issues you've raised |
| [07:24:21] | <eft> | Open source projects evolve through community contributions that go beyond writing code |
| [07:24:46] | <eft> | Sure, the most experienced and skilled members contribute code |
| [07:24:57] | <eft> | Let experienced folks suggest patches |
| [07:25:04] | <eft> | s/Let/Less |
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| [07:26:54] | <eft> | Others write documentation, test releases, provide *constructive* feedback, ask questions politely etc. |
| [07:27:14] | <EugenMayer> | No need to argue here. You POV is that one sided, i wont even try to tell you about the other side. |
| [07:28:10] | <eft> | Again, your choice - I'm just standing up for the people that have put in many,many hours writing code, adding features |
| [07:28:32] | <eft> | and helping new users become familiar with the tool |
| [07:32:54] | <eft> | I should add that I am not a core dev, I have taken far more from this project than I have given |
| [07:34:55] | <eft> | My impression is that most people who use Aegir accept that it is not perfect but they appreciate the net benefits and |
| [07:35:19] | <eft> | are prepared to be patient and pitch in where they can |
| [07:35:32] | <EugenMayer> | eft: you are not standing up, you are juding. And you are judging on suggestions not on facts |
| [07:36:32] | <EugenMayer> | 1. FUD: You are that sure its fud? i have invested more then 30hours in reading the code and testing. I stopped posting in the issue queues not because iam "fine" that its a dupe. Or becuase there is no issue. Iam just fed up. |
| [07:37:56] | <EugenMayer> | So on this point, you rather should back off your facts. After those 30 hourse every single issue i opened is valid and there is exactly one dube in there - the last one. So far for point 2. I have validated those issue, reproduced them, found the issues in the code and rewritten them. |
| [07:40:47] | <eft> | Please explain why you are fed up |
| [07:40:59] | <EugenMayer> | Iam neither new to OS, nor iam new to conributions nor iam new to projects like this or development. |
| [07:41:28] | <eft> | I never said you were a newbie - clearly you have strong skills |
| [07:41:55] | <kannary> | Any of the jefes around? I have a humble question about an issue that has been kicking me around for 5 days now... |
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| [07:43:57] | <EugenMayer> | eft: http://drupal.org/node/1063146#comment-4108810 that kind of scratches it. And it also should give a picture, that iam not thinking about myself being an angel or even close to be "perfect". I have also done some nasty mistakes, but some of them are not looking the way they seem to you right now, if you know a bit of the background. |
| [07:45:23] | <EugenMayer> | eft: one or the other side. You have your opinion and iam fine with it. All i wanted to say is, your facts might be suggestions and you might know only one side of the story, which is often not the best basement for judgement. |
| [07:49:16] | <eft> | Ok, I read that post. Let me compose my thoughts. |
| [07:54:20] | <eft> | My impression is that the Aegir devs do not promote the project as "everything is covered, no bugs, no misses - everything is perfect" |
| [07:54:43] | <eft> | It's a work in progress and has been so for some time |
| [07:55:14] | <EugenMayer> | Well i answer your "why fed up" question, which might be also a answer for your thoughts here |
| [07:55:38] | <EugenMayer> | Iam 100% fine that Aegir is not perfect, has bugs or whater. Hell i got it for _free_. I i know what that means. |
| [07:56:14] | <EugenMayer> | But eventhough you repeatedly say that Aegir is not perfect and devs are promoting this, the way people work in the issues does not second that at all |
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| [07:57:27] | <eft> | I think everyone has to demonstrate respect for each other |
| [07:57:35] | <EugenMayer> | Issues are closed very very fast. They are rather smashed away. And if you know the sofware has bugs and people report those, and you kind of kill those attempts in the very beginning, wihtout being sure that is really not a valid issue, you are killing motivation. |
| [07:58:47] | <EugenMayer> | I think mig5 and others did close those issue not without any backgroud. I was asking here and maybe they kind of got the opinion i have not the slightest idea what iam talking about. |
| [07:59:30] | <EugenMayer> | And i think the main reason was that i did not read the docs ( which are pretty good! ). that would have covered a lot or nearly all of those stupid questions |
| [08:00:34] | <EugenMayer> | I did not read them because of ignorance but rather because i was not aware how good they are. I might even bet that the Aegir docs are the best docs arround every Drupal project / module i have seen so far |
| [08:01:28] | <EugenMayer> | I should have given a try - i did not. And if you dont read docs written by others - that is always a sign for them for not respecting their work. And their is no way to argue here, they are right thinking this. |
| [08:02:12] | <EugenMayer> | To find a point, my intention werent bad. I was straightly heading to contribute to the project. I did take a different route though. |
| [08:03:42] | <eft> | So, do you think everyone can put the rough start behind them and work together, moving forward in a spirit of mutual respect? |
| [08:05:32] | <EugenMayer> | i cant answer you this question. Iam only one piece of the cake, cant talk for others. |
| [08:06:32] | <eft> | Fair enough - how about you speak for yourself and we invite the other pieces of the cake to speak for themselves |
| [08:07:45] | <EugenMayer> | Iam pretty sure the comment i gave you is an invitation. |
| [08:09:03] | <eft> | mig5: anarcat: anyone-else-I-missed consider yourselves invited |
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| [08:10:10] | <EugenMayer> | Till now, the only reaction i have seen/read was making kind of fun of it. Not the perfect answer. |
| [08:10:25] | <eft> | EugenMayer: making fun of what? |
| [08:11:17] | <eft> | You mean the tension that has existed in IRC and issue queue? |
| [08:11:49] | <EugenMayer> | About the issues i mentioned in the comment. Rather concrete things like "at least i cant mark it as dupe :)" |
| [08:13:16] | <kannary> | Man, I am following this discussion like a soccer fan follows the World Cup... |
| [08:13:59] | <kannary> | The dynamics of OS and his particular project are just fascinating in every sense...for the good and the bad |
| [08:14:09] | <kannary> | I meant "this" |
| [08:15:21] | <EugenMayer> | At least someone has fun with that :) Hope you got your popcorn ready |
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| [08:18:13] | <kannary> | Oh, I am not sure "fun" is the right word, but it is very interesting, especially for someone who has been using Aegir for 6 months, has contributed not a single line of code (because I can't) and has so much respect for the devs....These guys to me are like the Michael Jordans of code...The fact I can even talk to them directly makes me shake in my boots.... |
| [08:18:14] | <eft> | "at least I cant mark it as a dupe :)" - is that in http://drupal.org/node/1063146#comment-4108810 |
| [08:19:41] | <EugenMayer> | eft: no, way irc. AFAIR yesterday |
| [08:21:49] | <omega8cc> | EugenMayer: don't you think that what you got is the result of what you gave? My private impression is that you didn't follow any good open source community spirit, but rather expected everyone will learn from you - that is the problem - you forgot you should learn first, before attempting to teach others - which is the "core" of your attitude you demonstrated here clearly many times already, I just hope you realize what you did wrong in the first place a |
| [08:21:49] | <omega8cc> | will learn from it, instead of continuing bad behaviors. Please... don't replace results with reasons and I'm sure we will find a way to build a community together, instead of fighting against it. That is my 2c. |
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| [08:27:32] | <eft> | EugenMayer: I think this community would benefit greatly from you being a positive part of it |
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| [08:31:36] | <omega8cc> | wow! it works: http://git-dev.drupal.org/sandbox/omega8cc/1064854 |
| [08:32:55] | <EugenMayer> | omega8cc: Even with some distance, reading your comment reads very one-sided for me. And its bottom line is like "Admit your all guilty and we are just fine". Pretty easy to state this. |
| [08:32:56] | <omega8cc> | curious if that will be allowed later in the working sandbox, as it is a meta-install-profile written in bash ;) |
| [08:35:06] | <eft> | EugenMayer: I think omega8cc is just stating her opinion of what wasn't working til now - I don't think she is asking for a confession |
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| [08:36:51] | <eft> | from what I have seen from anarcat and omega8cc there is an open invitation to be part of the community and a reminder (for everyone) to collaborate in a constructive fashion in the future |
| [08:38:15] | <LloydPearsonIV> | is there a way that I can enable comments for the site,platforms & server content types so that i can make logs of changes |
| [08:39:12] | <LloydPearsonIV> | ?? |
| [08:39:16] | <omega8cc> | EugenMayer: our opinions are *always* biased by nature, but think for a moment about it: there must something wrong on your side if a few different people told you the same, no? I just added mu 2c, and it is you who can benefit from it, not me. It is not asking for confession, it is a honest feedback and invitation to be positive member of Aegir community. |
| [08:39:20] | <jlkinsel> | interesting idea. a site/platform/server is represented as a node, so should be able to add comments to the node, no? |
| [08:39:56] | <EugenMayer> | jlkinsel: yes you can |
| [08:42:03] | <EugenMayer> | omega8cc: i admitted i did mistakes. And iam learning and learned from it. But nevertheless iam still not going the route it was just all my fault. And your statement is exactly marking this out actually. You dont need to take anything out of this. And thats exactly the point. |
| [08:43:47] | <EugenMayer> | LloydPearsonIV: simply activate comments in the modules and edit the content types. As the content types are not deployed using features and all fields are added manually and not CCK, you wont get issues with reverts on upgrade by editing the content type |
| [08:45:02] | <LloydPearsonIV> | this is good news , right? |
| [08:45:11] | <EugenMayer> | For your usecase, yes |
| [08:45:24] | <LloydPearsonIV> | great |
| [08:45:26] | <LloydPearsonIV> | lol |
| [08:45:37] | <eft> | EugenMayer: it seems that we may have to agree to disagree on the past |
| [08:45:39] | <EugenMayer> | Everything arround aegirs hosting frontend is a node. You can also comment tasks or whatever you like |
| [08:45:50] | <kannary> | Based on your experiences....What would you say is the optimum memory required for distros like OA? And does deploying in remote servers affects memory consumption by Drush in any way? |
| [08:47:06] | <omega8cc> | EugenMayer: let's try to be positive from now on after we exchanged opinions and we now and understand what was wrong? I will leave you now with that open invitation. |
| [08:48:28] | <EugenMayer> | kannary: it very much scales with the nodes and what you have there on the server. As OA has grants active, iam not sure how they worked on the authed user issues. that said, with every additional node you need to scale with the server. Users are not very relevant here. AFAIK OA has taxonomy, combined with nodes and grants you can run into pretty large db_rewrite_sql szenarios. All that said, i think your fine with 512 for the start, but |
| [08:49:00] | <EugenMayer> | omega8cc: i agree to disagree on that last one. Iam fine with being contructive and taking your invitation, thanky you for that one |
| [08:49:40] | <EugenMayer> | s/contructive/contructive + positive |
| [08:49:55] | <eft> | kannary: do mean memory for the server or php cli memory or what? |
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| [08:51:29] | <kannary> | Yes, Here is the issue so I do not pollute the chat with text. I have done everything mig5 suggested, followed all the checks to a t and still hit the wall...even with 512MB and three times the execution time..http://community.aegirproject.org/node/347#comment-384 |
| [08:52:01] | <LloydPearsonIV> | EugenMayer: i have activate comments module & enabled comments for each content type, yet i do not see a comment form. Am i forgetting something? |
| [08:52:41] | <EugenMayer> | LloydPearsonIV: you might run into the issue with the node template then, i have no insight in them right now. Be sure to check the hosting code and see if the comment for is hidden |
| [08:52:56] | <EugenMayer> | if yes, use some theme foo to get them shown for you |
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| [08:53:58] | <LloydPearsonIV> | lol |
| [08:54:11] | <skwashd> | anarcat: thanks for the RT |
| [08:54:37] | <omega8cc> | kannary: does it work for you (OA install) locally? (not on the remote head)? |
| [08:54:41] | <skwashd> | hopefully mig5 can send one from the aegir account (hint hint) |
| [08:55:30] | <kannary> | Have no tried locally to be honest...I guess I should....This is a Linode by the way. |
| [08:55:56] | <LloydPearsonIV> | kannary: did u change the memory limit for the other php.ini as well? |
| [08:56:40] | <kannary> | Well, yes, I have, but I had some confusion whether is that even needed....At one point I stopped doing it because I saw no changes |
| [08:57:41] | <kannary> | LloydPearsonIV: So you are saying the php cli in the remote DOES also affect the failure? |
| [08:57:55] | <EugenMayer> | kannary: i have no idea why a memory issue could issue that you get a finally drupal. The only case is that during the profile php runs out of mem - but in that case in segfauls in 99% of the cases and at least you see that in the error logs. I rather tend to say you just end up in the wrong vhost |
| [08:58:09] | <EugenMayer> | not taking the right settings, so bootstrapping the wrnog DB |
| [08:58:34] | <LloydPearsonIV> | kannary: there are 2 php.ini files. one is the cli one, and one is the regular one |
| [08:58:36] | <EugenMayer> | kannary: no. It does not. PHP cli is never used on the remote, only apache php |
| [08:59:00] | <kannary> | EugenMayer: Thanks, I thought that was the case. |
| [08:59:11] | <LloydPearsonIV> | EugenMayer: can you off any insight on where i should alter the theme to make comments display correctly? |
| [08:59:43] | <kannary> | LloydPearsonIV: yes, I am aware of that. As the issue shows, I have checked and made sure the right php is being used using mig5 suggestions |
| [09:00:00] | <EugenMayer> | kannary: in anny case, OA does _not_ get installed on the aegir master ( DB ), only the platform is build. That means it cannont run OOM on the aegir master during profile installation, because that never happens their ( iam not 100% sure here, because iam not using profiles and did not debug this ) |
| [09:00:40] | <kannary> | EugenMayer: Trying it now. PLatform always works, sites....never |
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| [09:01:57] | <EugenMayer> | LloydPearsonIV: thats your job :) |
| [09:02:40] | <EugenMayer> | maybe someone else should answer the question where profiles are build. |
| [09:03:07] | <LloydPearsonIV> | EugenMayer: I do not know very much about themes or theming. |
| [09:03:23] | <LloydPearsonIV> | I am learnign though, but at the same time there is so much to learn |
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| [09:04:11] | <EugenMayer> | LloydPearsonIV: that is completly aegir unrelated. You most probably have better chances asking in #drupal |
| [09:05:23] | <LloydPearsonIV> | EugenMayer: adding comments to a theme made exclusively for aegir is not aegir related? |
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| [09:05:55] | <EugenMayer> | LloydPearsonIV: that is a general theme questions of nodes. Aegir is drupal 100%. and its all nodes. |
| [09:06:29] | <LloydPearsonIV> | yeh |
| [09:06:32] | <EugenMayer> | Aegir "hosting" is drupal. the provision is a other story :) |
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| [09:08:27] | <LloydPearsonIV> | yeh, but some who designed theme specifically purposely left commenting out & who ever helped to design aegir also collaborated with them on the decision because the comment module which is usually enabled by default is nit enabled. |
| [09:08:43] | <LloydPearsonIV> | this is as much an aegir question as anything else |
| [09:08:53] | <kannary> | EugenMayer: I wonder if the fact I am trying to use a subdomain has anything to do with it. I assume it shouldn't. |
| [09:09:06] | <EugenMayer> | iam using 99% subdomains kannary |
| [09:09:17] | <kannary> | EugenMayer: And no issues? |
| [09:09:19] | <EugenMayer> | So i rather not expect this to be an issue. I would even bet here :) |
| [09:09:26] | <kannary> | Ok |
| [09:09:30] | <kannary> | thanks |
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| [09:09:43] | <EugenMayer> | You rather have to look about the apache configruation which is not part of aegir AND |
| [09:09:47] | <LloydPearsonIV> | kannary: unless you are making a typo with your subdomains, those are not the issue |
| [09:10:08] | <kannary> | waiting for new subdomain to kick in and try locally like omega suggested, just to test it |
| [09:10:09] | <EugenMayer> | check how you use your vhost. are they IP bases, name base etc. Because mixing them can result having issues |
| [09:10:22] | <EugenMayer> | kannary: vim /etc/hosts :( |
| [09:10:50] | <EugenMayer> | add it there :) And by the way aegir does not veryfiy the domains and does not need you to use valid ones |
| [09:11:02] | <LloydPearsonIV> | kannary: do you have a wildcard setup? |
| [09:11:10] | <kannary> | no |
| [09:11:42] | <kannary> | I use Linode's DNS manager and add A records as needed |
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| [09:11:59] | <kannary> | and works for all other vaniall Drupal deployments |
| [09:12:34] | <EugenMayer> | omega8cc: i remember you played arround with some indexes in a issue because of loading times of the migrate dialog or similar ( i think hosting_package ). I think those changes got in in rc1. Am i the only one seeng that the dashboard of aegir rc1 is a lot slower? Can you image it could be related to the change? |
| [09:14:36] | <LloydPearsonIV> | is there some special protocol that i need to follow in drupal# or something? I never get a reply |
| [09:14:37] | <LloydPearsonIV> | lol |
| [09:16:29] | <EugenMayer> | LloydPearsonIV: ask concrete questions. If you go into a market and ask about "hot to build a house" you most probably wont get help. If you ask about "how to fix the wall when its very thing" you most probably get answers :) |
| [09:16:31] | <omega8cc> | EugenMayer: it wasn't me, but I don't use that bulk sites form patch at all, and I don't see any performance issues in the forms, and the indexes added to packages tables made it faster for me. |
| [09:17:12] | <EugenMayer> | omega8cc: the forms ( singel site, platform, server ) are pretty fast, all dialogs are. Just the dashboard is loading for ~8 seconds here |
| [09:17:41] | <EugenMayer> | dashboard: / |
| [09:18:16] | <omega8cc> | I don't use it, so even don't know how it looks like now, I use the old dashboard, without bulk extras |
| [09:18:19] | <EugenMayer> | i have arround 9 platforms ( bigger ones, ~160 modules each), 7 sites and 5 servers. I would rather suggest that are small numbers |
| [09:18:42] | <EugenMayer> | mig5 also suggested a probable VBO issues there. |
| [09:19:20] | <EugenMayer> | I never need that dashboard, it just happens to me on logins mostly |
| [09:19:53] | <omega8cc> | I don't like it and I reverted that patch in my repo after it landed in head, so I don't observe any related issues |
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| [09:20:06] | <ryanarmstrong> | mig5: Got the script to work! |
| [09:20:07] | <LloydPearsonIV> | EugenMayer: this is my question |
| [09:20:11] | <LloydPearsonIV> | "i am trying to add commenting to the eldir theme for aegir. How would I go about this?" |
| [09:20:21] | <LloydPearsonIV> | thats not concrete enough? |
| [09:20:29] | <LloydPearsonIV> | to atleast get a response? |
| [09:20:31] | <LloydPearsonIV> | lol |
| [09:21:06] | <ryanarmstrong> | mig5: Mostly, the one problem is that I didn't get an e-mail with my login and pass lol. But Aegir is setup |
| [09:21:23] | <eft> | LloydPearsonIV: there are only 510 users in that channel - you have to be patient :) |
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| [09:22:27] | <LloydPearsonIV> | eft: lmao@ only |
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| [09:22:56] | <LloydPearsonIV> | how many does it require to answer that question? |
| [09:22:58] | <LloydPearsonIV> | lol |
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| [09:24:01] | <eft> | it is Saturday or Sunday in most parts of the world (and the sun is out where I live) so not everyone is active right now |
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| [09:24:43] | <EugenMayer> | omega8cc: am i suggestion right that provision_backend_invoke / drush_.... completly detaches and therefore loses every context of the outer process? That intrduces quiet some bugs in the current migrate implementation ( and others actually = |
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| [09:25:44] | * jlkinsel verifies a remote site under rc1, doesn't lose files, cheers! |
| [09:26:18] | <EugenMayer> | e.g. http://community.aegirproject.org/node/75 that stuff would get broken on migrate, therefor "cheese" would never end up in the verify process neither deploy |
| [09:26:47] | <EugenMayer> | jlkinsel: the files issue is not related to rc1. RC1 is in any way better then b2 .) |
| [09:27:16] | <jlkinsel> | I know mig had a patch for it in b2, but it didn't seem to help me. *shrug* just happy it's fixed |
| [09:28:13] | <EugenMayer> | ah i know your issue |
| [09:28:27] | <EugenMayer> | that one is fixed in rc1, your right. |
| [09:28:30] | <eft> | LloydPearsonIV: maybe you have to enable the Comment module ? |
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| [09:29:15] | <LloydPearsonIV> | eft: that has been done already, but apparently the eldir theme does not have the code for displaying comments |
| [09:29:43] | <LloydPearsonIV> | so i need to know what the code is & where to place it |
| [09:30:07] | <EugenMayer> | You ask for somebody to do 99% of the job for you LloydPearsonIV: ) |
| [09:30:48] | <LloydPearsonIV> | isnt that the case already? |
| [09:30:55] | <LloydPearsonIV> | i didnt build aegir |
| [09:31:17] | <LloydPearsonIV> | though i appreicate the fact that somebody did |
| [09:31:24] | <LloydPearsonIV> | i love development seed |
| [09:31:31] | <LloydPearsonIV> | they have great innovations |
| [09:32:45] | <EugenMayer> | You mean you dont undestand the difference between "Somebody build it for himself and i can have it for free" |
| [09:32:46] | <EugenMayer> | and |
| [09:33:01] | <EugenMayer> | "Somebody should build something for me explictly and i get it for free" |
| [09:34:12] | <LloydPearsonIV> | EugenMayer: seems like something that you are stuck on |
| [09:34:31] | <LloydPearsonIV> | i havent been around the drupla community since it inception |
| [09:35:04] | <LloydPearsonIV> | but i have been aorund long enough to see enough cases where peopel have asked for advice & help with putting small mods on a module or theme to fit their purpose |
| [09:35:36] | <kannary> | Suddenly I feel like I am back home in Spain LOL |
| [09:36:03] | <LloydPearsonIV> | i reccond that adding comments would not be hard for someone who knows what they are doing. Even if somebody gave me a link or pointed in the direction, i would be fine with that |
| [09:36:53] | <EugenMayer> | LloydPearsonIV: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=google+node+theming+comment+form |
| [09:38:31] | <LloydPearsonIV> | i guess i am supposed to click on that |
| [09:38:59] | <LloydPearsonIV> | lmgtfy |
| [09:41:13] | <LloydPearsonIV> | there is always one in every group |
| [09:41:14] | <jlkinsel> | EugenMayer: s/google// :) |
| [09:42:18] | <jlkinsel> | LloydPearsonIV: it's a learning exp. we're all doing it. I took a quick peek, enabled comments but couldn't see them in a site node, either. if you're interested enough, you'll have to find the theme and figure out what's going on |
| [09:42:40] | <jlkinsel> | eldir's under hostmaster*/themes/eldir |
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| [09:43:14] | <jlkinsel> | if it's a theme issue. I'm not familiar enough with the aegir codebase but wouldnt' surprise me if they've got that functionality hidden in a module or similar |
| [09:44:33] | <LloydPearsonIV> | jlkinsel: I just be a little concerned about messing things up. So I prefer to get those questions answered in an interactive setting where i can get a little help if i mess things up |
| [09:44:42] | <jlkinsel> | understood |
| [09:44:43] | <LloydPearsonIV> | i am not a devloper or a web designer |
| [09:44:50] | <LloydPearsonIV> | i know my limits |
| [09:44:59] | <LloydPearsonIV> | so i simply ask. |
| [09:45:00] | <jlkinsel> | it's a saturday. what else are you gonna do? ;) |
| [09:45:53] | <kannary> | LloydPearsonIV: I wasn't following, but are you simply asking about theming for the comments? |
| [09:46:05] | <jlkinsel> | he wants to put comments on a site node, for example |
| [09:46:14] | <kannary> | I see |
| [09:46:20] | <jlkinsel> | I think the straight answer is it'll take more than a few clicks, LloydPearsonIV |
| [09:47:12] | <kannary> | Open an issue, I will throw you a bone If I can...I am an aegir 6 month noob, but theming and drupal...a bit further ahead |
| [09:47:53] | <LloydPearsonIV> | jlkinsel: i am pretty surprised. usual ds is so great about things like that. maybe they have a better way to log changes that i havent discovered yet |
| [09:48:10] | <jlkinsel> | i'm not aware of it... |
| [09:48:22] | <jlkinsel> | as I originally said, it's an interesting idea |
| [09:48:38] | <LloydPearsonIV> | kannary: I added a ticket to the eildir issue queue |
| [09:48:53] | <LloydPearsonIV> | http://drupal.org/node/1066954 |
| [09:49:16] | <kannary> | ok man...checking it while waiting for my subdomain to kick in... |
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| [09:50:08] | * EugenMayer repeats silently, you dont need a valid domain for aegir to operate. It does not rely on. Use /etc/hosts to ease up your life :) |
| [09:50:41] | <jlkinsel> | or a VM. :) |
| [09:51:01] | <jlkinsel> | I'm tired of this rain. feels like I'm in seattle. |
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| [09:51:25] | <LloydPearsonIV> | jlkinsel: i was just looking for a lightweight solution to add that functionality. I dont like add alot bloat to my aegir instance so i have less to worry about during the upgrades |
| [09:51:48] | <jlkinsel> | yup |
| [09:51:48] | <LloydPearsonIV> | jlkinsel: where are u? |
| [09:51:52] | <jlkinsel> | san francisco |
| [09:52:02] | <LloydPearsonIV> | oh ok |
| [09:52:06] | <LloydPearsonIV> | I am in mexico |
| [09:52:10] | <LloydPearsonIV> | but i am from cleveland |
| [09:52:15] | <kannary> | EugenMayer: I hear you clear and loud, but simply following my own procedure so as not to confuse me any further...SOrt of doing what I know it works for me for now until I get to the next level |
| [09:52:16] | <jlkinsel> | ha, cool |
| [09:52:23] | <kannary> | <-- Cold as hell in LA |
| [09:52:53] | <EugenMayer> | kannary: thats fine. just though i might shorten your waiting-time :) |
| [09:52:58] | <LloydPearsonIV> | kannary: the part of mexico i am in stays 70 - 85 degrees all year around |
| [09:53:06] | <LloydPearsonIV> | second best ranked climate in the world |
| [09:53:09] | <LloydPearsonIV> | behind kenya |
| [09:53:33] | <LloydPearsonIV> | google Lake Chapala & ajijic |
| [09:53:45] | <kannary> | LloydPearsonIV: I am from the Canary Islands....We could have an argument about that, but perhaps no the right place for that. LOL |
| [09:54:19] | <LloydPearsonIV> | kannary: an argument about what? |
| [09:54:32] | <kannary> | EugenMayer: And of course, thanks. Text save for further study. |
| [09:55:00] | <kannary> | LloydPearsonIV: about who has better weather...LOL (not really an "argument"...) |
| [09:57:54] | <LloydPearsonIV> | kannary: its not really an argument. all you have to do is use goolge |
| [09:58:02] | <LloydPearsonIV> | i am not offering my opinion |
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| [09:58:15] | <LloydPearsonIV> | i am telling you what it was OFFICIALLY ranked |
| [09:59:01] | <kannary> | LloydPearsonIV: It's a joke man...just a joke. See? |
| [09:59:33] | <LloydPearsonIV> | no problem, didnt take it hard |
| [09:59:41] | <LloydPearsonIV> | i was just stating it |
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| [10:02:14] | <kannary> | Funny: Just found a list that puts Lake Chapala at number 1 and Canary Islands at number 2 LOL |
| [10:02:50] | <LloydPearsonIV> | lol |
| [10:03:07] | <LloydPearsonIV> | i wonder what happened to kenya |
| [10:03:46] | <LloydPearsonIV> | i think i may ask about the commenting as a feature request, i the code is on freeze, but hopefully it shouldnt be too hard to add |
| [10:03:56] | <kannary> | back to business....checking the aldir thing |
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| [10:06:55] | <kannary> | LloydPearsonIV: SO basically you enabled comments, gave it the right permissions and all that malarky..correct? |
| [10:07:25] | <kannary> | I see now |
| [10:07:58] | <LloydPearsonIV> | kannary: yes plus i am user-1 |
| [10:08:10] | <kannary> | got you... |
| [10:08:14] | <kannary> | checking themes |
| [10:13:05] | <LloydPearsonIV> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/372 |
| [10:13:29] | <LloydPearsonIV> | hopefully the aegir gods smile upon us & grant us comments |
| [10:13:31] | <LloydPearsonIV> | lol |
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| [10:16:41] | <LloydPearsonIV> | EugenMayer: i was actually surprised that they did not use features, contexts & spaces for aegir. It seem like it would be good for this project. |
| [10:19:54] | <jlkinsel> | so I'm trying to migrate a site between two servers - getting an error "Could not create database user <username>" - then "Could not create database" - anybody know which system is connecting to which server to create that user/db? |
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| [10:21:44] | <EugenMayer> | jlkinsel: aegir master to remote 1, fetching the db ( dump ) to the aegir mater |
| [10:22:03] | <EugenMayer> | then aegir master to remote 2, deploying the db |
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| [10:22:12] | <jlkinsel> | th |
| [10:22:13] | <jlkinsel> | x |
| [10:22:30] | <EugenMayer> | jlkinsel: but be sure you selected the right db during selection ( the right db for the site ) |
| [10:22:49] | <EugenMayer> | becuase http / db can be on different servers, depending on your network, this can be an issue |
| [10:23:22] | <jlkinsel> | yea, think i'm cool there |
| [10:24:11] | <EugenMayer> | jlkinsel: you need the aegir_root user to be able to connect from aegir master to remote 2 and one |
| [10:24:37] | <EugenMayer> | if you have issues therei be sure mysql bind on 0.0.0.0 or the right interface, if you only have one ip |
| [10:24:57] | <jlkinsel> | looks like root@% doesn't have privs. easy fix (knock on wood) |
| [10:25:04] | <EugenMayer> | and be sure to disable --skip-name-resolv or similar fr PTR reasons of mysql |
| [10:25:36] | <EugenMayer> | jlkinsel: be sure the _host_ is right in the mysql.user table. Most probably you use localhost here, which is not the case for the aegir master |
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| [10:26:38] | <jlkinsel> | see comment about root@% :) but I'm gonna do root@ip instead. |
| [10:26:57] | <EugenMayer> | jlkinsel: remote 1 never talks to remote 2 during migration. just as a hint. It never happens. Even file transfer is going through the aegir master |
| [10:27:30] | <EugenMayer> | jlkinsel: be sure if you use IP, that aegir connects using that IP OR enable dns resolving for mysql. Mysql is very sensible here |
| [10:27:55] | <LloydPearsonIV> | EugenMayer: is webclusters working yet or are they still broken? |
| [10:27:55] | <jlkinsel> | yep, been through that hell. not as bad as it was 10 yrs ago, but... |
| [10:28:08] | <EugenMayer> | LloydPearsonIV: iam not a core dev - no idea :) |
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| [10:35:05] | <hefring> | community => Enable Commenting for client, site, platform & server content types for logging changes => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/372 |
| [10:39:31] | <kannary> | LloydPearsonIV: Not sure this is a theming thing only |
| [10:40:10] | <jlkinsel> | yeah. |
| [10:40:32] | <LloydPearsonIV> | kannary: well hopefully the core devs will see it & offer some insight on the issue |
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| [10:41:15] | <kannary> | Just did a little testing that usually works in most themes, but for some reason it is noyt popping in this case |
| [10:41:15] | <LloydPearsonIV> | other wise i will have to resort to display suite or context |
| [10:41:42] | <jlkinsel> | LloydPearsonIV: what I've done for some clients is to set up a book that requires a specific role to view, then i put notes in there |
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| [10:42:57] | <LloydPearsonIV> | kannary: i notice that ds tends to do a whole lot mystical thmese with their themes |
| [10:44:01] | <LloydPearsonIV> | jlkinsel: i understand but i want to keep this as simple as possible as i may have interns behind the wheel in a few cases. And it would be much easier they can just do it all from the same page |
| [10:44:37] | <jlkinsel> | concur |
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| [10:46:54] | <LloydPearsonIV> | my guess is that when the first were developing aegir, they never saw a real use case for commenting, so thats why they cut it out. Maybe they may see where i am coming from and consider addign comments |
| [10:47:19] | <LloydPearsonIV> | or atleast tell me what i need to do |
| [10:47:26] | <jlkinsel> | I can think of all sorts of great uses for it... |
| [10:47:59] | <LloydPearsonIV> | what i like about it is...doesnt require adding another moduel |
| [10:48:05] | <LloydPearsonIV> | so upgradesshould not be a problem |
| [10:51:55] | <jlkinsel> | "Dummy connection failed to fail" |
| [10:51:57] | * jlkinsel sighs |
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| [10:53:05] | <kannary> | jlkinsel: Ironic, Dealing with the same issue as of this second |
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| [10:56:01] | <LloydPearsonIV> | dummy connection? |
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| [10:57:01] | <jlkinsel> | error I'm getting when trying to do a migrate. ironic thing is it had already created the db etc |
| [10:57:17] | * jlkinsel retries, just in case |
| [10:58:17] | <kannary> | Oh never mind...was suing a platform that was set for the slave, not the master... |
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