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[11:24:23]<mrconnerton>Had a question about remote servers...
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[11:25:21]<mrconnerton>from the last drupal camp session I attended I learned that aegirs influence on these servers is completely passive
[11:25:34]<mrconnerton>however I assume I have to setup keys on the remote server for aegir to use
[11:25:44]<mrconnerton>what user on the remote server do I need to put the key under though?
[11:25:57]<mrconnerton>I didn't see a place in aegir to define a remote apache user
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[11:32:41]<jerryitt>wouldnt mind knowing the answer to that myself
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[11:46:16]<mig5>maybe read the docs at http://community.aegirproject.org/node/30
[11:49:28]<mrconnerton>mig5, I did read that page and should have said that, but I thought that was a little outdated when I read "You'll also need to prepare the web server in the same way you did for the master Aegir server during installation:"
[11:49:49]<mrconnerton>"ln -s /var/aegir/config/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/aegir.conf" doesn't seem very passive
[11:53:24]<lukus>omega8cc, - with your redirects for nginx (via the aegir site domain aliases panel) do you use 301 redirects?
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[11:59:25]<omega8cc>lukus: yes, http://wiki.nginx.org/HttpRewriteModule#rewrite
[11:59:38]<lukus>thx v much :) .. I'll check it out
[11:59:49]<omega8cc>http://git.aegirproject.org/?p=provision.git;a=blob;f=http/nginx/vhost.t...
[12:00:24]<lukus>I was wondering if search engines would be okay with the redirects.. seems like a gray area, but 301 redirects might be most effective
[12:02:37]<omega8cc>301 is a permanent redirect, which is correct
[12:02:50]<mig5>mrconnerton: you need to enable mod_rewrite if you expect your sites to work.just follow that guide from start to finish, i assure you it works :)
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[12:03:07]<mig5>copy and paste for the most part, drop the key in
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[12:13:04]<mrconnerton>mig5, ok I was under the impression that I would tell aegir what user to log in as etc etc.
[12:13:07]<mrconnerton>that makes sence
[12:13:09]<mrconnerton>thanks for the help
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[16:30:08]<sdboyer>anarcat: ping
[16:31:39]<anarcat>sdboyer: pong
[16:31:56]<anarcat>sdboyer: how's the Great Migration going? :)
[16:32:03]<sdboyer>anarcat: hey, was wondering if you have an alternate repo clone location for me with the transformed names
[16:32:35]<sdboyer>anarcat: less than 24 hours away, so, yknow, equal parts insanity and calm
[16:32:44]<anarcat>hehe
[16:32:49]<anarcat>i don't have anything right now
[16:33:01]<anarcat>mig5: you up?
[16:33:10]<sdboyer>kk
[16:33:30]<sdboyer>i'll need it by noon pst tmrw, or i go with the clone urls you already gave me
[16:33:41]<anarcat>okay
[16:33:53]<anarcat>i guess i could just clone to an alternate URL now to give us a last chance :)
[16:35:40]<anarcat>sdboyer: is this still the best way you know of to filter the authors? http://help.github.com/changing-author-info/
[16:36:04]<sdboyer>anarcat: that basic approach, yes
[16:36:36]<sdboyer>git-filter-branch is really just something that iterates over the whole tree, modifies the commits, then stitches the following history back on
[16:36:40]<anarcat>maybe i could use the git-fast-export/git-fast-import combo
[16:36:44]<sdboyer>it's exactly what you'd do manually
[16:36:50]<sdboyer>you could
[16:37:05]<sdboyer>actually yeah, that would work too
[16:37:19]<anarcat>http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~blynn/gitmagic/ch05.html#_making_hi...
[16:37:20]<sdboyer>do a fe, then just sed it to what you want
[16:37:24]<anarcat>yeah
[16:37:46]<anarcat>although that could change the *content* of commits too - nah? and then rewrite all commit hashes?
[16:38:16]<sdboyer>if you write a smart sed, the contents should be safe
[16:38:43]<anarcat>i'll try my luck
[16:38:52]<sdboyer>either way will work
[16:38:55]<anarcat>i will give you alternate URLs within the next 5 minutes
[16:39:02]<anarcat>worst case, they will be normal clones of the existing repos
[16:39:07]<anarcat>but that will give me time to test things out
[16:42:26]<sdboyer>sounds good
[16:43:51]<anarcat>sdboyer: git://git.aegirproject.org/export/provision and git://git.aegirproject.org/export/hostmaster
[16:44:06]<talengix>I have just installed Aegir but then i go to the site the page is blank. It must be some httpd.conf or hosts file setting but I don't know what. I added 127.0.0.1 localhost $AEGIR_HOST $AEGIR_DOMAIN per the install.txt and resolveip $AEGIR_HOST resolves correctly. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[16:46:21]<sdboyer>anarcat: great
[16:46:46]<anarcat>sdboyer: the problem with git fe is that if there's any line in any file in any point in history that is like "author Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@koumbit.org> 1298497635 -0500", i'm screwed...
[16:47:12]<sdboyer>anarcat: yep, that's why git-filter-branch is safer :)
[16:47:43]<sdboyer>you could have some fun with multi-line matching and lookahead/behinds, but basically, yeah
[16:49:10]<anarcat>yuck
[16:49:22]<anarcat>i have a fixed dataset, i'll inspect it
[16:50:30]<anarcat>git fast-export --all | grep '^author [^<]* <[^>]*> [0-9][0-9]* [+-][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]$' | sed 's/[0-9][0-9]* [+-][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]$//' | sort -u
[16:50:34]<anarcat>that looks good
[16:50:52]<anarcat>yep, alright
[16:51:03]<sdboyer>cool
[16:51:19]<anarcat>neat, that.
[16:51:31]<sdboyer>fast-export?
[16:51:50]<anarcat>yeah
[16:51:55]<sdboyer>yeah we'll be using it to replace our commit parsing logic soon
[16:52:03]<sdboyer>we couldn't quite finish it up for launch, but
[16:52:03]<sdboyer>heh
[16:52:07]<anarcat>hehe
[16:52:14]<sdboyer>with the current log parser, it takes ~80 minutes to parse core
[16:52:22]<sdboyer>the first draft of the fe-based parser?
[16:52:24]<sdboyer>7 seconds
[16:52:28]<anarcat>wow.
[16:52:30]<sdboyer>yup
[16:52:34]<anarcat>that's fast. :)
[16:52:37]<anarcat>hence the name, i guess :)
[16:52:40]<sdboyer>:)
[16:52:59]<sdboyer>switching over to dbtng upped it to ~40, and there were some additional datasets that weren't being captured which further increased it to 56 seconds or so
[16:53:01]<sdboyer>but...yeah
[16:53:14]<sdboyer>that's 16k commits, 60k file revisions
[16:54:25]<anarcat>sdboyer: only the email is important in the author?
[16:55:00]<sdboyer>anarcat: correct
[16:55:07]<anarcat>simplifies my work :)
[16:55:15]<anarcat>slapping together a small perl script
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[17:40:06]<anarcat>okay, testing migrated data to see if i need to rebase
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[17:43:07]<anarcat>aw
[17:43:08]<anarcat>crap.
[17:43:09]<anarcat>anarcat@angela:provision$ git fetch export
[17:43:09]<anarcat>warning: no common commits
[17:44:12]<anarcat>sdboyer: crap - all commit IDs are rewritten
[17:44:24]<anarcat>i should have checked that first before writing the whole mapping... :/
[17:45:40]<anarcat>ah!
[17:45:42]<anarcat>but i can rebase!
[17:45:43]<anarcat>$ git rebase export/master
[17:45:43]<anarcat>First, rewinding head to replay your work on top of it...
[17:45:43]<anarcat>Nothing to do.
[17:45:49]<anarcat>niiiice!
[17:46:12]<anarcat>man
[17:46:13]<anarcat>git is magic
[17:51:32]<anarcat>sdboyer: i am pushing the modified repos in place now
[17:53:32]<anarcat>crap - it dropped all branches and tags
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[17:54:26]<EugenMayer>morning
[17:54:38]<anarcat>hi
[17:54:38]<hefring>eh oh
[17:55:11]<eft>peace
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[17:56:59]<anarcat>aaah it's because i wasn't using bare repositories
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[17:58:04]<eft>and it's 0200EST ;)
[17:58:19]<anarcat>yep
[17:58:29]<anarcat>deadlines :)
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[17:58:56]<eft>better to be busy than the converse :)
[18:01:00]<EugenMayer>eft: not sure about that :)
[18:01:37]<eft>I generalize :)
[18:01:56]<EugenMayer> 2:00, hmm, where is that?
[18:02:05]<EugenMayer>(8:00 here, CET)
[18:02:07]<anarcat>montreal
[18:02:09]<anarcat>canada
[18:02:10]<eft>Quebec, Canada
[18:02:13]<EugenMayer>I see
[18:03:56]<anarcat>sdboyer: so, the repos are pushed, and I have done a few tests with them... a few interesting conclusions:
[18:04:25]<anarcat>sdboyer: 1. rebase works - if i add the exported repos as remotes, i can fetch the new revs and git rebases with "nothing to do"
[18:04:42]<anarcat>sdboyer: 2. however, the old commits are still there, somehow, because git fe on the resulting repos shows the old authors still
[18:05:42]<anarcat>actually scratch that
[18:05:45]<EugenMayer>I guess nobody yet implemented anything similar to a symlink in "platform/current/$name" .. for a symlink to the most recent local platform of a project on this system ( project ~customer project ). Can be really handy for several things. My platforms are automatically generated like $name__$mj_$mn_$pt .. and its rather hard to implement things which are related to the files directly of this project
[18:06:18]<EugenMayer>uh, rebase with remotes. Somebody is going to hate you :)
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[18:21:38]<sdboyer>anarcat: yeah it should have just popped all the old commits out of the tree
[18:22:02]<anarcat>sdboyer: those old commits were found by git fe because well, the old remote was still there :)
[18:22:10]<anarcat>mig5: ping
[18:26:39]<anarcat>sdboyer: humm... my name is screwed up here: http://git-testing.drupalcode.org/project/decisions.git
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[18:27:02]<sdboyer>anarcat: looks good to me
[18:27:12]<sdboyer>Antoine Beaupré by mvc - update the readme and add him to the contribut...
[18:27:46]<anarcat>sdboyer: try utf8
[18:27:59]<sdboyer>anarcat: encoding in my browser, you mean?
[18:28:03]<anarcat>sdboyer: yes
[18:28:18]<sdboyer>anarcat: if it's just the browser, then that's gitweb's fault
[18:28:24]<sdboyer>and gitweb is temporary, but fixable
[18:28:31]<sdboyer>the real problem would be if we imported incorrectly
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[18:29:01]<anarcat>i see
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[18:42:37]<talengix>I have installed aegir successfully but can't access the front page. I have tried everything i can find about dns settings and nothing seems to work. can anybody help me troubleshoot this?
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[18:43:35]<EugenMayer>talengix: what happens, what does "not access" mean?
[18:46:10]<talengix>i received the url at the end of the installation process but when i go to that page nothing happens and it finally resolves to some external page like aegir.com
[18:46:36]<EugenMayer>does your DNS work correct
[18:46:39]<talengix>i should be able to see it at http://aegir
[18:46:41]<EugenMayer>use dig / nslookup to find out.
[18:46:56]<talengix>this is a localhost install
[18:47:04]<talengix>my localhost works
[18:47:10]<EugenMayer>well do you have a proper DOMAIN setup and is your hostname correct. What about FQDN and hostname -f
[18:47:27]<EugenMayer>read up those things mentioned above
[18:47:56]<talengix>yes ... it is localhost.localdomain
[18:48:18]<EugenMayer>so http://aegir will be
[18:48:24]<EugenMayer>aegir.localdomain
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[18:50:15]<EugenMayer>anarcat: in drush_XXX_pre_hosting_task ( .. the drupal context drush hook ) .. is there any way to access the form values submitted on the task form? I expect those to tbe the $task->task_args['elemenname'] ?
[18:53:47]<talengix>I can't find any instructions for FQDN in install.txt. maybe it has something to do with loopback or the ip address of my eth0 adapter?
[18:54:15]<talengix>Aegir must be somewhere i can access :o(
[18:55:43]<EugenMayer>if you have no idea about hostnames and FQDNs, dont use hostnames, use FQDN which might help you shipping arround some issues.
[18:56:20]<EugenMayer>talengix: and you never will find those informations in instal.txt because they simply have nothing to do with aegir :) Most issues you had did not actually. But heads up, seems like you are nearly there
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[19:01:23]<EugenMayer>talengix: in your case above, the aegir hostmaster ServerName must be aegir, while aegirs FQDN must be aegir.localdomain and apache should be able to resolve this. You should be able to ping aegir and aegir.localdomain without issues
[19:02:05]<talengix>thanks EugenMayer ... i will try your suggestions
[19:02:16]<anarcat>sdboyer: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/384 <- our migration instructions
[19:02:34]<anarcat>sdboyer: i'm going to try to sleep now :) thanks for the support and good luck for the rest of the magic! :)
[19:03:15]<talengix>well at least this isolates the problem [root@localhost ~]# ping aegir
[19:03:15]<talengix>ping: unknown host aegir
[19:03:31]<EugenMayer>like i told you, your FQDN setup does not work ;-)
[19:03:48]<EugenMayer>if you want to quickfix it
[19:03:50]<EugenMayer>hostname aegir
[19:04:02]<sdboyer>anarcat: that looks pretty good
[19:04:02]<EugenMayer>or rather
[19:04:07]<EugenMayer>sudo hostname aegir
[19:04:10]<sdboyer>anarcat: only two notes on a quick scan-through
[19:04:11]<eft>anarcat: you are amazing
[19:04:18]<eft>major stamina
[19:04:19]<anarcat>eft: thank you sir :)
[19:04:20]<EugenMayer>vim /etc/hostname <- enter aegir here
[19:04:27]<anarcat>eft: not good :)
[19:04:33]<anarcat>01:58:53 <eft> better to be busy than the converse :)
[19:04:37]<anarcat>i disagree :)
[19:04:37]<EugenMayer>then edit vim /etc/hosts and in the upper, before anything else, add
[19:04:46]<EugenMayer>127.0.0.1 aegir.localdomain aegir
[19:04:54]<sdboyer>anarcat: 1) it's kinda undocumented atm, but if you use ssh keys, you can use git@git.drupal.org to clone, you don't have to use your ssh username. just need to set up a key. i suspect your contributors will likely be key-users, so...
[19:05:16]<sdboyer>anarcat: 2) you might want to make a note referring to the need to rebase at the top - just to make sure people don't miss it
[19:05:26]<EugenMayer>sdboyer: everybody not using keys is killing 10 kittens per push
[19:05:27]<sdboyer>since that's really vital for peopel to be able to keep working
[19:05:38]<EugenMayer>and 50 small kittens per pull
[19:05:57]<sdboyer>EugenMayer: and saving thousands of less-technical contributors to drupal
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[19:06:04]<anarcat>sdboyer: hum... i think i'll stick with POLA for #1 - they can use their key or their drupal.org password, right?
[19:06:07]<sdboyer>EugenMayer: and since it's a solved problem, there's no point in really talking about it
[19:06:11]<sdboyer>anarcat: correct
[19:06:51]<sdboyer>anarcat: but yeah, that doc looks great
[19:06:52]<sdboyer>anarcat++
[19:07:07]<EugenMayer>sdboyer: those people you are talking about most probably already have keys, e.g. for SSL certs they generated. They simply dont know about :) But i admit on windows keys can be painful
[19:07:33]<EugenMayer>without SSH aliases keys are PITA for git
[19:07:35]<anarcat>sdboyer: i clarified the rebase thing
[19:08:13]<hefring>community => Aegir source repositories migrating back to Drupal.org - instructions for migration => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/384
[19:08:13]* sdboyer realizes that EugenMayer is going for a friendly discussion, but he is nowhere even close to being in the mood for lightly discussing something that he's heard every single possible conceivable point on back six months ago
[19:08:33]<EugenMayer>sdboyer: lets skip it :)
[19:08:36]<sdboyer>EugenMayer: thank you :)
[19:08:56]<sdboyer>anarcat: cool cool
[19:09:25]<anarcat>mig5: i did it - i fixed the history. i will need to be punished for this if it fucks up, and i really should have worked on something else, but i think it's nice. :)
[19:09:27]<eft>anaract: I'm going to have some sleep for you
[19:09:43]<EugenMayer>anarcat: you might want to add http://progit.org/
[19:09:52]<anarcat>EugenMayer: feel free
[19:10:01]<eft>ciao
[19:10:09]<anarcat>EugenMayer: although... people are already using git here...
[19:10:10]<EugenMayer>anarcat: i hardly dont want to touch those official stuf :)
[19:10:21]<anarcat>... this is just a discussion page :P
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[19:10:39]<anarcat>although actually
[19:10:40]<EugenMayer>anarcat: no, just for the bottom line People unfamiliar with git or specifically git on Drupal.org should read the growing git handbook on Drupal.org.
[19:10:46]<anarcat>i guess I could move the docs to the handbook
[19:11:02]<EugenMayer>Yeah to the dev-tree
[19:11:24]<EugenMayer>http://community.aegirproject.org/developing
[19:11:32]<EugenMayer>and update http://community.aegirproject.org/node/31
[19:11:33]<EugenMayer>:)
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[19:11:57]<EugenMayer>~3:11
[19:12:01]<talengix>EugenMayer: Thank you!!
[19:12:10]<EugenMayer>talengix: worked?
[19:13:10]<anarcat>http://community.aegirproject.org/node/385
[19:13:15]<talengix>yes. but i am still concerned my FQDN and host configuration is a mess. I will need to research it to clean it up. but at least i can access aegir
[19:13:26]<talengix>finally ;o)
[19:13:29]<EugenMayer>anarcat++
[19:13:48]<EugenMayer>talengix: yeah what i gave you was a correct setup, but this will only work for you
[19:14:07]<EugenMayer>talengix: so its rather a hotfix or a dirtyfix even if you think about other people access things instance
[19:14:31]<EugenMayer>talengix: take your time reading it up and be sure to not pass the "deprecated" notes on /etc/resol.conf "domains" and things like that.
[19:15:40]<talengix>great. thanks for the advice
[19:15:53]<EugenMayer>talengix: yw
[19:18:02]<EugenMayer>anarcat: really consider about my notes on the stable. Iam currently rewriting clone and it seems pretty uncomplete. The rollback of db is not even there, same issues with the files and then with file-permissions. So very similar to migrate ( well that is to be expected actually )
[19:18:54]<anarcat>EugenMayer: i do not understand why you are rewriting clone
[19:19:18]<EugenMayer>anarcat: same reasons as with migrate. Same issues
[19:19:31]<anarcat>i don't understand why you are rewriting migrate too
[19:19:37]<EugenMayer>actually iam adding a new implementation, clone_ng, not changing the original one
[19:19:44]<EugenMayer>anarcat: are you using remotes?
[19:20:42]<anarcat>EugenMayer: no
[19:20:54]<anarcat>i can't really help you right now
[19:21:00]<anarcat>i just worked 3h straight on the git migration
[19:21:01]<EugenMayer>anarcat: well that explains why you dont know about it :) I guess that explains why you dont run into those things at all.
[19:21:02]<anarcat>and i need to sleep
[19:21:16]<EugenMayer>used too, no worries.
[19:21:17]<anarcat>EugenMayer: honestly, i consider multi-server to be mostly broken at this point
[19:21:23]<anarcat>EugenMayer: i would welcome patches to fix that
[19:21:34]<anarcat>for the 0.4 branch
[19:21:50]<anarcat>but i'm thinking of rewriting that model for the next stable branch (0.5 or 1.0)
[19:21:52]<EugenMayer>they are pretty bug though, and thats kind of def. braking code freeze
[19:21:59]<EugenMayer>*big
[19:22:17]<anarcat>so i would advise you wait for those discussions to follow through before going ahead and rewriting those key pieces
[19:22:30]<anarcat>because you may be disappointed that the patches do not get into 0.4 (if at all)
[19:22:36]<EugenMayer>anarcat: i need to get my job done
[19:22:42]<anarcat>...
[19:22:44]<EugenMayer>i wont wait for others to join
[19:22:50]<EugenMayer>I simply cant.
[19:23:03]<anarcat><sigh.
[19:23:11]<anarcat>it seems we have trouble understanding each other :)
[19:23:21]<EugenMayer>But iam willing to work together / change the implemenation laters. Iam not hacking migrate because of that, iam staying with the core
[19:23:31]<EugenMayer>*hacking provision
[19:23:34]<anarcat>EugenMayer: i want to rewrite multiserver too.
[19:23:52]<anarcat>and your work may be lost as a result.
[19:24:10]<EugenMayer>I see, i wait with that if it does not harm our maintenance. Its not that my eager to rewrite all this alone .. hell i have better things to do :)
[19:24:21]<anarcat>i feel it is counter productive, because you could fix the existing code itself. but i do not object to you doing that.
[19:24:27]<anarcat>you do as you wish :)
[19:24:37]<anarcat>but i am suggesting that it may not be the best approach
[19:24:50]<anarcat>i am also unclear as to what precisely is broken right now
[19:25:01]<EugenMayer>Well i know that, but its the middle way between "get it done" and "get it done the best way"
[19:25:35]<anarcat>as long as we're clear that we won't get migrate_ng into 0.4, i'm fine with that :)
[19:25:40]<EugenMayer>anarcat: well yeah iam failing to have a chat with you devs in a quite minute somehow. Maybe TZ is some reason, maybe your workload. But i can wait
[19:26:01]<EugenMayer>anarcat: well iam fine with that, have it working for me anyway :)
[19:26:03]<anarcat>there's a TZ issue
[19:26:28]<anarcat>but you also have a way of finding me in the exact moment when i'm exhausted or into something ridiculously big and urgent
[19:26:43]<anarcat>so i apologize for that
[19:26:56]<EugenMayer>anarcat: maybe we should add in the release notes that those multiserver thing is to be considered alpha/beta till 0.5 then, so people dont run into same issues i have run into.
[19:27:20]<anarcat>that sounds reasonable, but I think that would make sense only if we have documented issues
[19:27:26]<EugenMayer>anarcat: hehe. I learned that. But iam deep enaugh into aegir to deal with the questions myself, so dont worry
[19:27:45]<anarcat>you talked about db rollback not working - AFAIK that works, at least in single-server, and i do not recall a ticket documenting that on multi-server
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[19:27:51]<EugenMayer>anarcat: most of them are, some of them needs some input to be stated precisly
[19:28:02]<EugenMayer>anarcat: it is not workin 101% :)
[19:28:06]<EugenMayer>(remote ones)
[19:28:16]<anarcat>you're saying there is an issue about the db rollback?
[19:28:22]<EugenMayer>jap
[19:29:27]<anarcat>... what's the issue #?
[19:30:02]<anarcat>and why isn't marked as critical, if it's multi-server related, it should be critical
[19:30:11]<EugenMayer>http://drupal.org/node/1058578
[19:30:22]<EugenMayer>anarcat: you have to look in my issues then
[19:30:38]<EugenMayer>90% are remote-related and believe me, they exist. Iam neither here to waste your nor my time
[19:31:03]<EugenMayer>in my utopia world this all works and i just press UI buttons in aegir and be the happiest human on earth :)
[19:31:28]<EugenMayer>http://drupal.org/node/1068660
[19:31:35]<EugenMayer>that one of you does not happen on remotes also
[19:32:48]<anarcat>so
[19:33:25]<EugenMayer>anarcat: http://drupal.org/node/1068126 stuff like that .. you only run into that when using remotes
[19:34:09]<anarcat>i responded to http://drupal.org/node/1068660
[19:34:20]<EugenMayer>"why the heck it takes so long". Some of my customers need 5 minutes for verify, some need 20 minutes for migration, even _with_ the new migrate_ng ( local file mv ) and the --update stuff and other fixes. Pretty slow. Thats where i actually also saw that site_offile issues ( i had time for it :) )
[19:34:31]<anarcat>http://drupal.org/node/1068660 - has nothing to do with multi-server
[19:35:01]<EugenMayer>anarcat: i think its a dual-bug. I will need an extra issue for remotes, but not 100% sure
[19:35:05]<EugenMayer>( due the context issues )
[19:35:59]<EugenMayer>But i will test when we have a fix fo 1068660 and report back, open a new issue for remotes if needed
[19:44:54]* EugenMayer shakes anarcat. You felt asleep infront of the keybody. Bed time .. :) n8
[19:45:01]<EugenMayer>*keybord
[19:45:04]<EugenMayer>+a
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[19:48:51]<anarcat>no, i'm busy answering your issues
[19:50:01]<EugenMayer>anarcat: thank you, but no need fur the rush. I can wait for them to be answered
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[19:50:56]<anarcat>alright, so I see only *one* issue surrounding multiserver, maybe two with the rsync stuff (#1068126)
[19:51:05]<anarcat>and it's a rollback issue, and i feel it should be fairly easy to fix
[19:51:12]<anarcat>it's probably a regression related to a nother bugfix
[19:51:16]<EugenMayer>;-)
[19:51:35]<EugenMayer>I did not report all of them
[19:52:01]<EugenMayer>esp those i fixed with migrate_ng did not get reported properly right now. Some of them are not really visible, but already reported
[19:52:10]<EugenMayer>e.g. the file permission issue is remote-specific
[19:52:38]<EugenMayer>migrate -> backup ( with files ) -> extrac files on the aegir master ( umask... ) -> rsync back to remote
[19:52:58]<anarcat>that whole model is wrong, in my opinion, so I wouldn't bother too much trying to fix that
[19:53:35]<EugenMayer>and esp when you migrate the next time the files are kept on the aegir master in $platform/sites/$site .. and will be reapplied on your files .. due to missing --update and all your "fixes" done to the file permissions on the remote are lost again
[19:53:55]<EugenMayer>anarcat: well i did not fix that. I simply fixed the whole syncinc part for migrate and clone
[19:54:19]<EugenMayer>migrate detects if the migration is local ( same remote ) and if yes, it moves the files on the remote server
[19:54:21]<anarcat>EugenMayer: re 1058578 - i agree we need a proper rollback, but if the bug gets triggered *only* with internal bugs, then the issue is less critical - that's why I wanted to know how the bug was triggered
[19:54:44]<anarcat>so now that i understand that you triggered the rollback yourself, i'll scale back the priority to normal
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[19:54:52]<anarcat>EugenMayer: are you okay with that?
[19:55:01]<EugenMayer>anarcat: wait a second, not sure i got you right
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[19:55:06]<anarcat>EugenMayer: :)
[19:55:20]<EugenMayer>i did _not_ trigger the rollback manually. I did trigger a issue( drush_set_error) manaully
[19:55:26]<EugenMayer>to provoke a automated rollback
[19:55:31]<anarcat>well, that's what i mean
[19:55:35]<EugenMayer>ok -
[19:55:37]<anarcat>you drush_set_error() to abort the clone
[19:55:41]<anarcat>that triggered the rollback
[19:55:42]<EugenMayer>Exactly
[19:55:54]<anarcat>where did you put the drush_set_error()?
[19:56:03]<EugenMayer>and the end of pre_
[19:56:09]<anarcat>"somewhere in platform/migrate.provision.inc" is not clear enough :)
[19:56:12]<EugenMayer>hehe
[19:56:22]<anarcat>pre what :)
[19:56:25]<EugenMayer>comone i could also have said "somehwere in the code" :)
[19:56:31]<EugenMayer>gimme a sec
[19:56:34]<anarcat>that *is* what you said :P
[19:56:40]<anarcat>you need to be more precise, otherwise we're wasting our time here :)
[19:56:49]<anarcat>what i meant earlier is this:
[19:57:20]<EugenMayer>at the end of drush_provision_drupal_provision_migrate
[19:57:26]<EugenMayer>platform/migate.provision.ng
[19:57:45]<anarcat>if you need a drush_set_error() to trigger the bug, ie that the bug doesn't happen naturally unless there's another bug *within provision* that triggers it, then it's not a critical issue, as we can fix the other bug(s)
[19:57:51]<anarcat>EugenMayer: migrate.provision.ng?
[19:57:55]<EugenMayer>drush_provision_drupal_pre_provision_migrate what work, as the deploy stuff is not happened yet
[19:58:00]<EugenMayer>anarcat: yes
[19:58:21]<EugenMayer>anarcat: it does happen. Every bug happens in deploy or save will trigger this
[19:58:24]<anarcat>EugenMayer: i don't have such a file here
[19:58:24]<anarcat>platform/migate.provision.ng: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
[19:58:40]<anarcat>EugenMayer: yes. but if there are no bugs in deploy or save, we're okay, right?
[19:58:44]<EugenMayer>vim ~/.drush/provision/platform/migrate.provision.inc
[19:58:50]<anarcat>EugenMayer: again, i'm not saying that we should fix this
[19:58:56]<EugenMayer>anarcat: those issues are triggered by timeouts
[19:59:03]<anarcat>dude.
[19:59:06]<anarcat>okay
[19:59:08]<anarcat>i'm out :)
[19:59:09]<EugenMayer>or other things. Those are not code-bugs :)
[19:59:12]<EugenMayer>hehe, n8
[19:59:51]<anarcat>i will answer in the issue
[19:59:56]<EugenMayer>Do that
[19:59:56]<anarcat>and downgrade to normal.
[20:00:01]<EugenMayer>iam fine
[20:01:53]<anarcat>btw, we have other rollback issues :)
[20:01:54]<anarcat>http://drupal.org/node/993944
[20:01:57]<anarcat>which may be related too
[20:02:18]<anarcat>and for your information, this is the list of issues that will be fixed in the 0.4 branch: http://drupal.org/project/issues?text=&projects=provision,+hosting,+host...(Aegir)&status=Open&priorities=1&categories=All
[20:02:22]<anarcat>with that
[20:02:23]<anarcat>i will be off
[20:02:36]<EugenMayer>bye
[20:03:00]<anarcat>EugenMayer: thank you for your patience :)
[20:03:08]<anarcat>i can be pretty thick sometimes
[20:03:10]<EugenMayer>anarcat: learned form you :)
[20:03:27]<EugenMayer>Patience is one of my issues. Job and personal wise
[20:03:37]<anarcat>:)
[20:03:47]<anarcat>happy to hear i'm contagious
[20:05:25]<EugenMayer>Only the good things! :)
[20:05:52]<anarcat>that remains to be seen ;)
[20:06:48]<EugenMayer>I have a bad-things-absorb-shield!
[20:07:04]<EugenMayer>Due to i addopted megamens good stuff!
[20:07:20]<EugenMayer>Others call me EugenBorg
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[20:11:41]<anarcat>hehe
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[20:24:35]<EugenMayer>anarcat: take this http://drupal.org/node/1058578
[20:24:59]<EugenMayer>anarcat: you might not want to klick on this before tomorrow morning :D
[20:29:34]<anarcat>too late
[20:29:38]<anarcat>now i'm really going to sleep :)
[20:29:40]<anarcat>take care
[20:30:21]<EugenMayer>sleep well
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[02:18:08]<hefring>community => Help! Site offline due to runaway delete task! => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/387
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[04:09:06]<EugenMayer>hell its kind of a job to chage the aegir host when you gone live! :)
[04:10:19]<anarcat>EugenMayer: did you look at this thread? http://community.aegirproject.org/node/363
[04:10:51]<anarcat>EugenMayer: this is something that should go in the handbook if it gets confirmed, btw...
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[04:18:15]<EugenMayer>anarcat: well now i did it by hand
[04:18:26]<EugenMayer>vhosts / .drush/ drushc.php
[04:18:29]<EugenMayer>some sed foo
[04:18:40]<EugenMayer>then mysql.user host stuff, mysql.db.Host stuff
[04:18:40]<anarcat>pain
[04:18:58]<EugenMayer>them some /etc/hosts stuff, some hostname stuff..
[04:19:02]<EugenMayer>holy shitcraft :D
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[04:21:06]<EugenMayer>anarcat: the domain-alias thing is kind of broken later
[04:21:47]<EugenMayer>because of the mysql connection permitted to the host..so if 10.77.0.1 resolved to aegir.dev.localdomain and you use aegir.localdomain + the alias .. connnection will get refues
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[04:24:40]<chipotle>Greetings. I have a question about subfolder domains ... i.e., example.com/site1. It is not clear to me how to set these up in Aegir. I have read the DNS wildcard information and it discusses subdomains in detail but I don't see anything about subfolder format urls. can somebody please explain the process to me? thanks
[04:25:20]<EugenMayer>chipotle: i would just say, thats not possible OOTB
[04:25:40]<EugenMayer>you have to do rewrites for that. Not seen that in aegir at all ( and it has nothing to do with subdomains )
[04:26:12]<EugenMayer>so what you want to do is rewriting / to /site1 .. but i have no idea why someone would go into this pain with aegir :)
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[04:27:58]<adrinux>chipotle: a subdomain is site1.example.com
[04:28:10]<adrinux>and that works very well with aegir
[04:28:19]<EugenMayer>yes but he wants "subfolders" :)
[04:28:21]<chipotle>many popular web apps use this url structure e.g. linkedin.com/in/user twitter.com/*>/user etc .... i was just curious how to accomplish it with aegir. so you are saying I have to choose a different format ... for example site1.example.com to setup the site in aegir and then manually create a rewrite
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[04:29:32]<adrinux>you're saying you want a different site at example.com/user than example.com/ ?
[04:29:39]<chipotle>this is not a extraordinary url structure :o) many many sites have it
[04:29:46]<adrinux>so does drupal
[04:30:00]<adrinux>but it's not a different site
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[04:30:28]<chipotle>yes .... example.com/site1 example.com/site2 i can do this with multisite and symlinks but i thought aegir somehow automated this process
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[04:30:41]<EugenMayer>oO
[04:30:45]<chipotle>it is on the same domain
[04:30:55]<EugenMayer>you cant create a symlink for domain.tld/site1
[04:31:00]<EugenMayer>i dont get it somehow :)
[04:31:02]<chipotle>a main site with many subsites
[04:31:36]<EugenMayer>ok, never done this. probably supported by drupal OOTB. i would have expected that in your case
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[04:31:41]<EugenMayer>you have a drupal in
[04:31:43]<chipotle>i am doing it now manually just fine. i was wondering if aegir automates this
[04:31:49]<EugenMayer>DOCROOT/sites1/
[04:32:05]<EugenMayer>DOCROOT/sites1/sites/site1.domain.tld
[04:32:22]<adrinux>chipotle: this doesn't work with aegir, it needs a proper FQDN per site afaik
[04:32:34]<EugenMayer>iam prettttty sure adrinux is right.
[04:33:10]<adrinux>so not only does it not automate it, it will quite possibly break it
[04:33:18]<EugenMayer>and it wont be easy to get this done _at_ all. Domain is a primary key here, so its not possible to have it "not unique'"
[04:33:31]<chipotle>hm. this is very bad
[04:33:40]<EugenMayer>it wont never work with it, believe me. The hole drush alias pat would not work at all
[04:34:00]<EugenMayer>chipotle: i think its never used. When you start with aegir, you dont do those things
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[04:34:24]<adrinux>l
[04:34:29]<chipotle>you don't do what things? how can you say it is never used? this format is very common
[04:34:29]<EugenMayer>you most prob have you own dedicated ( or several ) on you can book enaugh domains / create subdomain entries
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[04:34:46]<EugenMayer>very common if you are not able to create X subdomains.
[04:35:13]<adrinux>and perhaps for custom built web apps like twitter
[04:35:25]<EugenMayer>It was created to dodge the limitations of shared-web-hosting were you could have one domain, but no subdomains or at least no subdomains with own vhosts :)
[04:35:55]<EugenMayer>i have never seen it :)
[04:35:56]<chipotle>i don't get it. how come a subdomain that is at site1.example.com can't be redirected to example.com/site1 without breaking aegir? that's crazy
[04:36:12]<EugenMayer>chipotle: it is not crazy at all :)
[04:36:34]<EugenMayer>one would be an URI identifier, one a domain identifiert
[04:36:43]<EugenMayer>drush people have chosen not to use URI :)
[04:37:08]<EugenMayer>and thats most probably not bad. Nobody wants https://yoursite.tld to be a different site to http://yoursite.tld
[04:37:15]<adrinux>tea time
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[04:37:23]<EugenMayer>PG ? :)
[04:37:46]<chipotle>geeeez. that's a serious setback
[04:38:16]<chipotle>i figured because i was doing it easy with usual multisite it would be no problem with aegir
[04:39:05]<EugenMayer>a fiver it wont ever be implemented in aegir :)
[04:39:21]<chipotle>that is a serious limitation. very serious
[04:39:25]<EugenMayer>it would be a serious architectural change
[04:39:41]<EugenMayer>chipotle: i would not wonder myself your one of the first to ask here
[04:40:17]<chipotle>i am the first to ask about a url structure example.com/site1 example.com/site2
[04:40:27]<anarcat>no
[04:40:35]<joestewart|afk>chipotle: a short answer is because they would share the same vhost, relevant issue - http://drupal.org/node/705026
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[04:41:27]<chipotle>something doesn't sound right here.
[04:41:39]<chipotle>maybe i am not making myself clear
[04:42:02]<chipotle>all sites are on the same domain.
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[04:42:12]<chipotle>not different domains
[04:42:12]<anarcat>you are clear as water
[04:42:18]<anarcat>and it's not supported right now
[04:42:22]<anarcat>and there's an isssue opened about this
[04:42:58]<chipotle>anarcat: thanks. do you have a link to the issue so i can read it?
[04:43:38]<anarcat>i'm trying to find it
[04:43:46]<anarcat>what did you search for before asking here?
[04:43:47]<chipotle>cool
[04:44:13]<chipotle>i was reading dns wildcard documentation at the community site
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[04:45:15]<noecc>chipotle: See http://groups.drupal.org/node/19006#comment-65698
[04:47:35]<chipotle>"You can however accomplish what you want simply by creating a wildcard dns entry pointing to *.mydomain.com."
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[04:48:44]<chipotle>so I can create site1.example.com and create a wildcard dns entry that makes it look like example.com/site1 ?
[04:48:47]<noecc>anarcat: Would it be advantageous for aegir to do what is suggested here http://timonweb.com/small-powerful-drupal-lifehack-installing-drupal-dis..., Say on a platform verify?
[04:48:53]<chipotle>Or am I confused and this will break aegir
[04:49:23]<Met4physica>omega8cc: i got list with the ssl how to
[04:49:39]<noecc>chipotle: aegir deals strictly with subdomains *.example.com not with example.com/site1
[04:49:47]<Met4physica>omega8cc: i posted a follow up on a github issue if there is a simpler way to handle the ssl for octopus sites
[04:50:11]<chipotle>noecc: yes, but can't a subdomain url be rewritten ?
[04:51:28]<noecc>chipotle: If there was a simple solution it would have been implemented already.
[04:53:33]<chipotle>i am still in denial ;o)
[04:53:36]<EugenMayer>anarcat: "not right now". You are sure that will ever happen? Its not only an issue on hosting / frontend ) and like 50% of the provision code. It would also not work with drush AFAIK, due to the aliases working ont the domain
[04:55:14]<anarcat>chipotle / EugenMayer : i added a FAQ about this: http://community.aegirproject.org/faq#subdir
[04:55:34]<anarcat>noecc: you mean this?
[04:55:34]<anarcat>set_time_limit(0);
[04:55:34]<anarcat>ini_set('memory_limit', '256M');
[04:57:09]<noecc>anarcat: yes
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[04:58:11]<EugenMayer>anarcat: even the ENV thing in the vhost would not work anymore..it would be set for the whole vhost .. and site1/ scripts could use script2 stuff. Not sure you can use <directory> to limit the scope. Anyway, i think deal is closed
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[04:58:12]<anarcat>noecc: not sure - we already recommend bumping up the memory limit on install, for the whole server
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[04:58:26]<anarcat>EugenMayer: patches welcome :)
[04:58:30]* anarcat stepping away again
[04:58:37]<EugenMayer>dream on buddy :)
[04:58:59]<EugenMayer>i would rather create my on OS before wasting my time with that ;-=
[04:59:06]<anarcat>well there you go
[04:59:12]<anarcat>maybe i should answer that to people too :P
[04:59:17]<EugenMayer>Yeah!
[04:59:18]<anarcat>"i want subdir multisite!"
[04:59:18]<omega8cc>Met4physica: ?
[04:59:21]<anarcat>"dream on buddy!"
[04:59:29]<anarcat>i want breakfast
[04:59:33]<chipotle>OK. So can I use a companies official domain name on an aegir site?
[04:59:36]<EugenMayer>good apetite
[05:00:16]<noecc>anarcat: I only pointed it out as there have been comments here regarding timing outs.
[05:00:27]<Met4physica>omega8cc: the guide for configuring ssl on nginx that you kindly documented would most likely work, but what i want to know is: is there any way to use aegirs built in ssl support for an octopus site?
[05:00:56]<noecc>chipotle: Clarify
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[05:01:59]<chipotle>if my client currently owns the domain www.mycompany.com i can point that to an aegir site, right? :o)
[05:02:07]<noecc>anarcat: breakfast is before noon.
[05:03:07]<omega8cc>Met4physica: I sent you a ping here about it earlier this week, I'm waiting for obrienmd to post his tested and working how-to-do-it-properly, maybe this weekend
[05:04:05]<noecc>chipotle: yes. You can have in infinite number of subdomains as well as have www.mycompany.com redirect to mycompany.com if you prefer.
[05:04:07]<Met4physica>omega8cc: i must have missed that, been lurking on many computers, thank you
[05:04:16]<omega8cc>I asked him also to link it in the github queue
[05:04:32]<Met4physica>omega8cc: i might offshore my client who is experiencing issues to you still, because i'm tired of getting called at 1AM about ssl certificate errors :)
[05:05:45]<omega8cc>Met4physica: please keep this client in a safe distance from me ;)
[05:06:03]<chipotle>thanks
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[05:06:43]<Met4physica>omega8cc: they also raised questions about what would happen to their site if i died
[05:06:56]<Met4physica>omega8cc: do you have a contingency plan for your death that i could forward to them? ;)
[05:08:06]<omega8cc>Met4physica: kill -9 him or send to some insurance company maybe, lol
[05:08:53]<Met4physica>omega8cc: i am sending her to rackspace actually, because they have lots of warm bodies
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[05:11:46]<omega8cc>Met4physica: it is the site owner responsibility to have a hosting backup strategy, right? your client is clearly a support vampire, and I'm killing vampires after they said A but before they said B
[05:12:14]<chipotle>noecc: but a subdomain is a new site node in aegir, right? not an alias for the top level site?
[05:12:57]<chipotle>e.g., site1.example.com has different content than www.example.com
[05:13:15]<chipotle>just like a normal multisite site, right?
[05:13:48]<chipotle>new site nodes are created for each subdomain, is that correct?
[05:14:09]<noecc>chipotle: Yes. domains. subdomains, sub-subdomains,
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[05:15:07]<chipotle>cool.
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[05:16:47]<noecc>chipotle: You install a platform (drupal code base) manually or via drush make.file, Tell aegir about the platform, then deploy sites via aegir frontend.
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[05:18:46]<chipotle>noecc: yeah, its amazing stuff you guys are building. i'm just a bit surprised about not having the possibility of subdirectory folders but i guess that forces me to be more creative ;o)
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[05:20:03]<noecc>chipotle: 'You guys' is anarcat mig5 Vertice omega8cc univate and others. I'm not included in that list.
[05:20:30]<chipotle>noecc: duly noted. thanks
[05:20:55]<noecc>And yes it is amazing.
[05:21:18]<Met4physica>omega8cc: how do you offer client backups?
[05:21:21]<chipotle>yes. i plan to spend a lot of time here following developments
[05:21:25]<Met4physica>omega8cc: just letting them do db dumps?
[05:21:43]<Met4physica>omega8cc: they want a nightly automated process and are going to hang me to a cross over it not being there
[05:24:12]<anarcat>noecc: thanks, i'll try to haev my breakfast at the proper time(out)
[05:24:40]<noecc>anarcat: Also, bedtime is well before 4am!
[05:24:59]<omega8cc>Met4physica: we use global R1Soft backups for everything plus client can initiate backup in Aegir and download it or we can schedule the Aegir backups or even setup a remote backup to his bucket on Amazon with duplicity etc
[05:25:01]<anarcat>wow, am i learning today! :P
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[05:33:15]<Met4physica>they download the backup via sFTP? from the aegir ui?
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[05:40:49]<chipotle>would somebody kindly share their hosts file so I can compare it to mine. none of the new sites i create are showing up. since aegir handles all of the virtual host stuff behind the scenes all i can figure is there is a problem with my hosts file or httpd.config
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[05:45:09]<EugenMayer>chipotle: apache2ctl -S
[05:48:08]<omega8cc>Met4physica: rsync, sftp, or have it stored directly on their Amazon S3 nightly
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[06:06:16]<anarcat>watch out potential flood
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[06:06:20]<anarcat>yeah
[06:06:23]<anarcat>flooding, sorry :/
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[06:06:30]<CIA-23>aegir/provision: mig debian * re0bcb013052f / (install.hostmaster.inc install.sh.txt upgrade.sh.txt): let's depend on new drush and drush_make
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[06:07:52]<EugenMayer> anarcat: oh noes!
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[06:48:45]<chipotle>can somebody please take a look at my host file and see if anything there would be causing my aeger node sites to not load? http://pastebin.com/hSWgpfER At least I will find out if I have to hunt somewhere else for the solution. thanks
[06:48:57]<chipotle>aegir
[06:59:53]<noecc>anarcat: Not to be presumptuous, http://git.drupal.org/?p=provision.git;a=blob;f=aegir.make will need updating before you take down git.aegirproject.org
[07:00:05]<anarcat>noecc: you are correct
[07:00:17]<noecc>chipotle: 127.0.0.1 aegir.localdomain aegir localhost.localdomain localhost
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[07:06:57]<chipotle>noecc: not working. when i try to add a new site node it says page not found. I get some user reset url. what am i supposed to see? a drupal install.php page?
[07:08:56]<anarcat>we seem to have a big problem with the server hosting the community site
[07:09:01]<anarcat>it doesn't respond to pings at all
[07:09:04]<anarcat>we're working on it
[07:09:56]<hp3kman>Sorry if I'm interrupting something, but can someone answer a question re: restoring my main aegir site from a backup?
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[07:15:47]<hp3kman>My aegir provisioning site's database completely disappeared when attempting a failed site delete...I do have a backup from a few day's ago...not sure how to go about it. Can't access phpmyadmin, so would need to do from mysqladmin, I guess. All the other pieces seem to be intact; would restoring the db get me back up?
[07:16:25]<anarcat>hefring: tell noecc thanks for the heads up about the makefile, i have added a checklist for the migration here, add anything else you think of to the list! http://community.aegirproject.org/node/385
[07:16:25]<hefring>anarcat: I'll pass that on when noecc is around.
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[07:18:13]<chipotle>I am having a hard time wrapping my head around this virtual host stuff... when i add a site i should put the sites real domain name, right? even though i am on a development machine. but then obviously it tries to access the internet. how do i keep development sites local until i publish them on another server with aegir?
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[08:05:22]<chipotle>everytime i create a site i get a server not found error. what could be causing this?
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[08:13:09]<LloydPearsonIV>anarcat: are u there?
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[08:17:51]<chipotle>i can't find the troubleshooting guide at community.aegirproject where is it hidden, I know I saw it before somewhere. maybe there will be a resolution to my issue of no sites appearing
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[08:24:41]<hp3kman>chipotle: not sure if I can help, but will try...have you checked your vhost file?
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[08:30:18]<chipotle>hp3kam: thanks so much. i thought aegir automatically created that? i don't have one other than httpd.conf that i am aware of.
[08:30:30]<chipotle>it is a fresh apache install
[08:31:23]<chipotle>i checked httpd conf and conf.d and there are no vhost files. but aegir has some in /var/aegir
[08:31:32]<chipotle>shoud there be another one?
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[08:43:33]<hp3kman>chipotle: should be a vhost.d in ~/config/server_master/apache
[08:44:23]<hp3kman>chipotle: what platform are you on?
[08:45:03]<hp3kman>chipotle: sorry, vhost.d is directory...what's under that?
[08:45:47]<chipotle>centos 5 i will check
[08:47:16]<chipotle>under vhost.d is a separate config file for each site.
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[08:48:22]<hp3kman>chipotle: yes...OK, that's good...now, let's check something else...
[08:48:34]<chipotle>automatically generated by aegir so they must be fine. but aegir uses some of my settings i guess in the original host file
[08:48:48]<chipotle>from the original host file etc
[08:48:51]<chipotle>httpd etc
[08:50:13]<hp3kman>chipotle: is ~/config/server_master/apache.conf OK?
[08:50:30]<chipotle>for the record i have enabled NameVirtualHost *:80 in my httpd file and have a localhost virtualhost configured there
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[08:52:06]<chipotle>not sure if it is OK or not but this is what I have http://pastebin.com/zrrpNmJ4
[08:52:42]<chipotle>maybe i should comment out NameVirtualHost *:80 on original httpd.conf because it is duplicated
[08:53:05]<chipotle>redundant
[08:53:06]<hp3kman>chipotle: all looks good there...
[08:53:30]<hp3kman>chipotle: when you reboot apache, do you get an error?
[08:53:47]<chipotle>i don't think so let me check again
[08:54:25]<chipotle>i get one warning no errors Starting httpd: [Thu Feb 24 16:54:00 2011] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
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[08:55:04]<chipotle>something is wrong :o)
[08:55:22]<chipotle>I have virtual hosts of course created by aegir site nodes
[08:55:32]<hp3kman>chipotle: Ah...let me try to remember how to fix that...
[08:56:27]<hp3kman>chipotle: I had to comment out something, somewhere...very little direction on this anywhere on the net...dunno if this will solve your main problem, but will get rid of that error...
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[08:57:45]<chipotle>i did comment out NameVirtualHost *:80 and the warning is gone now
[08:57:59]<hp3kman>chipotle: comment out NameVirtualHost *:80 in /etc/apache2/ports.conf and restart apache
[08:58:08]<chipotle>i did
[08:58:09]<hp3kman>chipotle: cool
[08:58:15]<chipotle>the warning is gone
[08:59:11]<hp3kman>chipotle: hmmm...are you having problems getting into your main provisioning site, or site's you've created???
[08:59:35]<chipotle>i can access aegir no problem. it is new sites that i can't access
[09:00:02]<chipotle>server not found
[09:00:33]<chipotle>as an aside, how do you get my handle (name) at the beginning of the sentences directed at me in this chat?
[09:00:41]<hp3kman>type it
[09:00:46]<chipotle>aha
[09:00:48]<chipotle>:o)
[09:00:59]<hp3kman>I know...I thought there'd be a setting, too...
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[09:01:12]<hp3kman>I think we're the only ones here, anyway...
[09:01:16]<chipotle>i've been looking all over for that!
[09:01:39]<hp3kman>!!!
[09:02:00]<chipotle>anyway, there are only so many files this problem can be in. we have elimated a couple already... sigggh
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[09:02:44]<hp3kman>chipotle: hmmm...server not found. what is the site...a subdir of your main, or what?
[09:04:05]<chipotle>i have tried numerous. a top level www.example.com site and a local dev.example.com site ... none work. the top level ones show another site on the live internet... the internal ones can't be found
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[09:05:50]<hp3kman>chipotle: can you resolveip your hostname?
[09:05:59]<chipotle>yes
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[09:06:15]<hp3kman>chipotle: and it returns 127.0.0.1?
[09:06:52]<chipotle>the commande is resolveip?
[09:06:58]<chipotle>i had it before and forgot
[09:06:58]<hp3kman>yes
[09:07:41]<chipotle>there must be another part to it
[09:08:31]<chipotle>hostname says localhost.localdomain
[09:08:36]<hp3kman>chipotle: I'm on ubuntu...not sure on Centos, but should be something similar...on Ubuntu, I'd type hostname to find the hostname, then resolveip <hostname> (enter your hostname there)...
[09:08:46]<hp3kman>ok
[09:09:38]<chipotle>i will find the command. just a minute
[09:09:45]<chipotle>its different than ubunto
[09:10:11]<hp3kman>chipotle: did you install aegir to aegir.localhost.localdomain?
[09:10:49]<chipotle>no. to aegir
[09:14:24]<chipotle>hp3kman: do i have to reinstall aegir or can that be changed in a config file somewhere?
[09:15:49]<hp3kman>chipotle: thinking...
[09:16:38]<hp3kman>chipotle: u in the states?
[09:16:56]<chipotle>part of the time :o) not today
[09:17:33]<hp3kman>chipotle: might help if we could talk...hard to do this via chat! ;-(
[09:18:24]<hp3kman>chipotle: having major problem myself...blew away my db, and trying to figure out how to get it back! Everyone else is to busy developing...
[09:18:26]<chipotle>i have voip with a states number for my travel
[09:18:51]<chipotle>its not backed up?
[09:19:31]<hp3kman>chipotle: bah! didn't think so, but I do have one...just don't know if that's the answer...I've made changes since, but looks ok...
[09:19:39]<hp3kman>chipotle: my bad!
[09:20:11]<hp3kman>chipotle: send me your # to hp3kman@hotmail.com...not sure if I can help, but will try...
[09:20:20]<chipotle>yeah, i'd think you could just import it through phpmyadmin
[09:20:51]<hp3kman>chipotle: another sore subject...can't get that to work...can do it thru command line, if I have to...
[09:21:22]<milk>chipotle; have you got dns setup for the site you've created?
[09:22:25]<chipotle>if you install the phpmyadmin package it will automatically be available at localhost/phpmyadmin , right?
[09:22:31]<chipotle>i am on a local development machine
[09:22:58]<chipotle>but i have live sites too dns is operative
[09:23:20]<hp3kman>chipotle: get thru the setup script, but that's it..can't get to it anymore...went to a drupal setup screen...I'll figure it out...
[09:24:27]<chipotle>there is no setup script for phpmyadmin. at least not that i have ever had to contend with. once i installed the package it was there
[09:24:50]<hp3kman>there is now...I think it has a problem w/ ssl
[09:24:50]<chipotle>i'm sure you'll figure it out ;o)
[09:25:01]<milk>chipotle; is there an entry existing for the newly created site though? unless aegir is setup to handle dns (i haven't gotten that far yet) you'll need to manually add it
[09:25:09]<chipotle>then you import your backups of course no prob
[09:25:20]<anarcat>LloydPearsonIV: i am here
[09:25:47]<LloydPearsonIV>anarcat: i was told that you may knowwhat to do to get aegir to work with mercury
[09:25:49]<chipotle>manually add it where?
[09:26:11]<anarcat>LloydPearsonIV: i don't - anything specific you have a problem with?
[09:26:37]<chipotle>aegir should automate that. but happy to do it if i know where on a local machine. all my dns experience is with domain hosting providers
[09:26:38]<LloydPearsonIV>anarcat: memcache & varnish
[09:26:54]<anarcat>ah
[09:26:58]<chipotle>i guess the hosts file?
[09:27:00]<anarcat>anything *more* specific? :)
[09:27:12]<anarcat>LloydPearsonIV: i have no experience with memcache, but i know varnish and pressflow pretty well
[09:27:23]<chipotle>so everytime i create an aegir site i need to manually add it to my hosts file?
[09:27:23]<LloydPearsonIV>anarcat: i am guessing that if i install varnish that i have to change my server so that it works on port 80880?
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[09:27:48]<anarcat>hum... yeah, there's a problem with that right now in aegir... lemme find that issue
[09:27:52]<LloydPearsonIV>anarcat: well the varnish portion will be helpful
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[09:29:17]<LloydPearsonIV>or if u can point me to some documentation with some specifics for setting things up, that would help too
[09:29:50]<hp3kman>chipotle: still here...looking around
[09:30:08]<milk>chipotle; i haven't groked the full score on that yet, still playing around with and learning aegir myself. i use dnsmasq for dns currently. if you have a dns server on your local network then that can be used, but aye, /etc/hosts would do the same job
[09:30:17]<anarcat>LloydPearsonIV: http://drupal.org/node/1047174
[09:30:30]<hp3kman>chipotle: maybe an alias problem...??
[09:31:29]<chipotle>hp3kam: dunno. again, this is something I thought aegir automates.
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[09:32:19]<milk>easiest way to check it it's dns though is to try resolve the address of the new site, with "host newsite.local" or "resolveip newsite.local"
[09:32:21]<hp3kman>chipotle: should...looking in /var/aegir/.drush
[09:33:57]<LloydPearsonIV>anarcat: thanks
[09:34:15]<chipotle>yep. i see alias.drushrp.php there for each site
[09:34:37]<anarcat>mig5: ping
[09:34:45]<hp3kman>milk: thanks for jumping in...
[09:34:58]<milk>chipotle; you need to enable dns support in aegir
[09:35:18]<milk>it's in hosting/features, in the experimental section
[09:35:27]<chipotle>milk: will try thanks
[09:35:31]<hp3kman>chipotle: k...that's ok
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[09:35:47]<milk>but as i said, i haven't tried to bite off more than i can chew yet ;)
[09:36:07]<hp3kman>milk: question: is that necessary when on dev machine...just a question...
[09:36:15]<hp3kman>milk: we're all in the same boat!
[09:36:17]<milk>can't even execute mv the right way.. *cough* well, i can now..
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[09:37:58]<chipotle>milk: so aegir does not work out of the box without enabling an experimental feature?
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[09:38:51]<anarcat>mig5: are you root@r11567.ovh.net?
[09:39:00]<anarcat>mig5: we have around 20 minutes to fix those 6 commits ;)
[09:39:47]<chipotle>milk: that didn't work. i am still unable to access any site i created with aegir
[09:39:49]<hp3kman>chipotle: gotta go...let me know how you make out...!
[09:39:56]<hp3kman>milk: thanks for stepping in!
[09:40:09]<chipotle>hp3kman: thanks for all the help. cheers!
[09:40:33]<hp3kman>chipotle: dunno about help, but commisseration! ;-)
[09:40:40]<chipotle>hehe
[09:40:50]<hp3kman>c u
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[09:42:03]<milk>chipotle; it's not quite a turnkey solution as of yet, no, but damn good none the less ;)
[09:42:37]<chipotle>milk: it does look totally awesome. i can't wait to create my first site and visit it
[09:42:50]<milk>chipotle; to confirm, does "host newsite.whatever" give the right ip for the machine aegir is on? (not doing it from the aegir machine mind ;)
[09:43:15]<chipotle>milk: i have a fresh Centos install with only the required packages running so it is bizarre
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[09:43:48]<chipotle>i have yet to savor the taste of my first aegir site ;o(
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[09:44:56]<chipotle>it is hard to imagine where the problem can be if host file checks out, httpd config checks out since aegir automates the rest e.g. v.hosts etc
[09:45:22]<milk>i got my first one working yesterday, but the site i created with a feature server platform doesn't actually have any modules installed beyond core.. need to dive into that the now. too many other distractions..
[09:47:24]<milk>not used centos, but the 'host' (and 'resolveip') commands are fairly common for linux systems. or do they come back with an error?
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[09:50:20]<chipotle>milk: no if i use host and the site it gives a failed notice
[09:50:21]<LloydPearsonIV>anarcat: on developmentseed.org they had a blog post where they got both varnish & ssl working for a drupal 7 site using aegir, how did they do it?
[09:50:31]<chipotle>not found
[09:50:44]<anarcat>LloydPearsonIV: you'll have to ask devseed :)
[09:50:55]<anarcat>LloydPearsonIV: we're using varnish here, but varnish is on a separate server
[09:51:17]<LloydPearsonIV>oh ok
[09:52:49]<chipotle>milk: but live sites show the ip of my remote server
[09:53:14]<chipotle>so dev sites don't work at all and live sites resolve to the ... well ... live site
[09:54:04]<milk>chipotle; easiest way for quick access would be to edit your /etc/hosts
[09:54:43]<chipotle>milk: i guess so. i thought aegir handled that?
[09:55:01]<milk>or if you have access to the dns server for your local network, you can add an entry there for access on other machines
[09:55:11]<milk>as noted, it's an experimental feature that you need to enable
[09:56:53]<chipotle>milk: ok so i just added a host entry and the drupal install screen came up. is that normal? or does aegir actually faciliate the entire install?
[09:57:42]<chipotle>milk: i am happy to manually add the host names into the host file since aegir does everything else so fast. just wonder why it does not work for me but works for others.
[09:58:16]<chipotle>does aegir actually install drupal or only put you at the install.php screen?
[10:05:07]<chipotle>so aegir does NOT install drupal, right? it just puts you at the install.php screen, right? I just want to ensure that is correct.
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[10:08:40]<chipotle>is it possible to develop with the live url to help preserve sanity as far as migrating file folders etc? my idea is to develop on a virtualbox where the hosts file is edited to keep all domains local and then from there use aegir to publish the sites to the production server where the same domains are live. i want to avoid a different host name for development environment and production. i'd like the settings.php root to always be the same
[10:09:14]<chipotle>is this feasible?
[10:15:09]<milk>chipotle; it sets up a drupal install for you to initialise. i'd advise checking mig5's post on development workflor - http://greenbeedigital.com.au/content/drupal-deployments-workflows-versi...
[10:15:23]<joestewart>chipotle: no time right now but when aegir installs a site, the install is complete and ready to login. db created and populated. if you are getting an install screen there is likely a dns/vhost issue
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[10:18:42]<LloydPearsonIV>anarcat: here is developmentseed's blog post. it may help somebody. http://developmentseed.org/blog/2010/oct/12/leveraging-aegir-deploying-d...
[10:18:55]<chipotle>milk: thanks for the resource. i will definitely check it out in the morning. it's after midnight for me now so I'm done. I really appreciate your help and since i still have to manually edit my hosts file and even then only getting the install screen i have a long ways to go and will be back tomorrow :o) actually, i will be back everyday so as I learn more I can payback the favor of those who helped me by helping others. Cheers
[10:20:16]<chipotle>joestewart: yeah, i didn't think it was right. i guess i will pick up where i left off tomorrow. hopefully one day soon i will have this high potential system working for me.
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