IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-03-02 (GMT)

2011-03-01
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[11:00:11]<xk>should verify on a platform take 1 hour and totally abuse the database server at the same time?
[11:01:45]<mig5>if it's a remote platform, http://drupal.org/node/1077022 http://drupal.org/node/998484
[11:01:55]<mig5>and no it shouldn't, but it does :)
[11:05:37]<xk>well... this is a local server, but with 100+ sites.
[11:06:41]<xk>I'll find the query that does it.
[11:07:05]<xk>I can see there is one query that takes atleast 1 second to complete.
[11:07:39]<xk>oh. and when doing a site disable, that disables the site before doing a backup?
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[11:08:03]<xk>because on an older aegir install that I will be decommissioning in the next few days did NOT disable the site before making the backup.
[11:08:51]<mig5>http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/blob/HEAD:/platform/disable....
[11:08:57]<mig5>pretty sure we force a backup and then disable.
[11:09:29]<xk>well, what if hte site takes 1 hour to make a backup?
[11:09:34]<xk>or even 2 hours
[11:09:41]<xk>that database would be out of date.
[11:09:57]<mig5>yep
[11:10:04]<xk>(slow disk IO, I think the drive is about to die)
[11:10:46]<mig5>well we set the site to offline mode after taking a backup
[11:10:52]<mig5>probably should set it offline first
[11:10:56]<mig5>then take backup
[11:11:03]<mig5>so that no data is coming in
[11:11:50]<xk>data consistency is more important whether the site is up for 1 minute or 1 hour longer.
[11:11:53]<xk>er, than
[11:12:07]<mig5>that's what i'm saying
[11:12:25]<mig5>site should go into offline mode first, so that no more changes are coming thhrough while the database is backed up.
[11:12:34]<xk>but apart from that, aegir is running reasonable good. except for bad web developer habits breaking migrations :)
[11:12:35]<mig5>i don't think there'll be any repercussions in doing that.
[11:13:01]<xk>I posted a patch that resolves most of the migration issues.
[11:15:44]<xk>yer, the migration db abuse is just too much.
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[11:15:51]<xk>it's 1.5 hours, 100% CPU on DB server.
[11:16:23]<xk>I'll investigate the binlogs tofind the query that is doing it.
[11:22:57]<xk>query starts with "SELECT n.title"
[11:23:34]<xk>looks like a module specific problem.
[11:30:02]<xk>SELECT \n n.title, r.type, p.package_type, p.nid,\n i.iid, i.version, i.version_code, i.schema_version,\n i.status, p.description, p.short_name, p.old_short_name, i.rid,\n i.package_id\n
[11:30:06]<xk>is the query that is abusing the database
[11:30:58]<mig5>wonder if you are running the latest release whereby we added indexes to the hosting_package stuff to speed things up significantly
[11:31:59]<xk>it's running rc2
[11:35:04]<xk>it would be located in system.install?
[11:35:33]<anarcat>rc2?
[11:35:37]<anarcat>we're at rc2?
[11:35:40]<xk>er, sorry
[11:35:42]<xk>beta2 :)
[11:35:43]<xk>haha
[11:35:45]<anarcat>ah :)
[11:35:49]<anarcat>i thought i missed a meeting :)
[11:35:52]<xk>lol
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[11:44:20]<xk>is it say enough to upgrade hosting_package.install
[11:44:23]<xk>er, safe
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[11:51:39]<xk>ok. found the diff that will resolve my issue - http://git.aegirproject.org/?p=hostmaster.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef6507c9e04...
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[14:37:59]<Deezire_>ah, there you're hiding, josh_k!
[14:38:17]<josh_k>me?
[14:38:28]<Deezire_>I was looking for the varnish configuration in mercury 1.2, where may i find that?
[14:39:11]<josh_k>its' in /etc/varnish/default.vcl
[14:39:34]<josh_k>which is the normal place for vcl in debian or centos
[14:39:40]<Deezire_>well, not in mercury it self, i don't want to deploy it just to get that file, but the configuration
[14:39:47]<josh_k>hmm
[14:39:50]<josh_k>that's a good question
[14:39:52]<josh_k>if you just want the file
[14:39:54]<Deezire_>I looked through the repo
[14:40:03]<josh_k>I would pull it from the pressflow wiki
[14:40:07]<Deezire_>and could not find the file or even a mention of it
[14:40:09]<josh_k>which also has some other good notes
[14:40:13]<Deezire_>Ah, good
[14:40:30]<Deezire_>Google "varnish drupal" seem to be pretty useless, i've seen people do the stranges things
[14:41:26]<Deezire_>And another thing, when i got you here, when are you going to kill "antinsa"'s right to comment on the group? I'm too close to just unsubscribing because of all the spam. :-/
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[14:41:56]<mig5>haha
[14:42:02]<josh_k>Deezire_: sorry about that
[14:42:05]<mig5>does my head in, in here too
[14:42:11]<josh_k>we are going to make some changes on the group soon
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[14:42:20]<josh_k>mig5: yeah, he's been getting complaints all over
[14:42:27]<josh_k>I think if he's still at it next week
[14:42:34]<josh_k>greg and I will do a banning in Chicago
[14:43:01]<Deezire_>Using highly optimized systems like mercury is not something you do when you can't even figure out why it starts loading varnish-cache.org..
[14:43:32]<mig5>Deezire_: https://wiki.fourkitchens.com/display/PF/Configure+Varnish+for+Pressflow
[14:43:35]<mig5>sorry if you already knew
[14:43:39]<Deezire_>Yeah, thanks :)
[14:44:05]<josh_k>we should update that page sometime thuogh
[14:44:10]<josh_k>there are a few nice tricks that aren't there
[14:44:13]<josh_k>:\
[14:44:18]<Deezire_>do tell
[14:44:20]<mig5>i think a newer varnish hsa some syntax differences too
[14:44:24]<mig5>i have puppet manifests that work
[14:44:28]<josh_k>yeah
[14:44:31]<josh_k>2.1 is better
[14:44:32]<Deezire_>mig5: minor thinkgs
[14:44:33]<mig5>depending on debian vs ubuntu
[14:44:48]<Deezire_>like return (deliver);
[14:44:55]<mig5>yeah
[14:44:56]<Deezire_>instead of just deliver;
[14:45:04]<josh_k>Deezire_: normalizing compression headers
[14:45:39]<Deezire_>I'm actually a good friend with one of the developers, seeing him this weekend, will ask for some pointers then :)
[14:47:43]<Deezire_>I have no idea why i stopped idleing here, seems like a strange move, closing #aegir but not #drupal...
[14:47:57]<Deezire_>Better /save now
[14:50:39]<mig5>Deezire_: probably AntiNSA was in here giving you the shits :)
[14:50:42]<mig5>and that's why
[14:53:31]<Deezire_>Ironically enough that's almost correct, i can remember him talking in here, last time i was here
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[14:57:05]<hefring>community => Adventures in Aegir remote builds => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/441
[14:57:13]<mig5>haha
[14:57:14]<mig5>hi davidstrauss
[14:57:34]<josh_k>I hold him we were talking about antinsa
[14:57:37]<josh_k>:P
[14:58:03]<mig5>haven't seen him here in a little while, but we had to kick him a few times
[15:01:28]<mig5>i think he got on board with the omega8 barracuda stuff, but way out of his league with basic linux stuff.
[15:01:39]<mig5>it happens a lot here..
[15:01:55]<Deezire_>Hehehe
[15:02:13]<Deezire_>I find this stuff /really/ challanging, and that's why it's fun.
[15:03:22]<Deezire_>Now i just need to figure out why varnish does not seem to deliver cached pages, even though i have external caching and all that stuff enabeled.
[15:03:58]<mig5>it's all about the session cookies :)
[15:04:11]<Deezire_>yup, i think it has to do with this multi-site setup
[15:04:12]<mig5>varnishlog++
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[15:06:03]<Deezire_>i should add some headers too, makes it so much easier to find out when it was a hit
[15:06:36]<Deezire_>but then i'd have to redo the config from pressflow, as they do some stuff in vcl_error that not by the book, or so it seems
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[15:14:17]<Deezire_>... ooor i could just commit everything and sleep some
[15:18:18]<Deezire_>http://drupal.org/node/1076252
[15:18:21]<Deezire_>hah
[15:23:00]<Deezire_>Is there any way of figuring out what/who set a cookie?
[15:23:22]<josh_k>mig5: do you use anarcat's drush package for debian?
[15:23:35]<josh_k>I am really wanting to stop managing that by hand
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[15:25:03]<omega8cc>hah, I hope we will get a chance to undo that crazy antinsa spam also from the nginx group, btw, are you receiving mail notifications from g.d.o? I didn't get anything since Feb 25
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[15:25:42]<Deezire_>omega8cc: mine have stopped too, but i just figured that i removed that in a bloody rage
[15:26:22]<Deezire_>seems like i actually didnt filter anything
[15:26:34]<omega8cc>I even subscribed with my original, old account but also nothing
[15:26:36]<Deezire_>Last was Feb 24
[15:26:50]<Deezire_>.. from AntiNSA
[15:27:22]<omega8cc>yep, The Great Git killed g.d.o together with AntiNSA
[15:27:22]<mig5>15:23 < josh_k> mig5: do you use anarcat's drush package for debian?
[15:27:25]<mig5>not usually
[15:27:26]<mig5>however
[15:27:49]<mig5>i have installed on lenny from the lenny-backports repo (it was drush 4 i think, which is why i used backports, because i needed drush 4)
[15:27:57]<josh_k>right
[15:28:05]<josh_k>yeah, drush moves faster than debian :\
[15:28:10]<mig5>most things do :)
[15:28:14]<Deezire_>Just out of the blue: Anyone here familiar with XenServer?
[15:28:37]<Deezire_>drush 3.3.x is in squeeze repo
[15:28:39]<mig5>Deezire_: i am with the xen kernel sa found in distros like debian
[15:28:47]<mig5>not the enterprisy Xenserver product thing
[15:28:51]<mig5>s/sa/as/
[15:30:24]<Deezire_>Well, better cut to the case then, with 2.6.32 most paravirt features was merged into the kernel, so you don't need a pv-enabeled kernel to do paravirt. This means i can run Debian Squeeze without HVM. But I cannot use xs-tools, as they are debian lenny spesific, but other than graphing and network usage, they should have nothing to do with the general stability of the system?
[15:31:03]<Deezire_>I still mourn the fact that i installed xenserver and not just kvm or something similar.. :p
[15:31:47]<Deezire_>I only virtualize debian and ubuntu anyway, no need for a fancy (windows only, too) user interface.
[15:32:17]<mig5>mmm... not sure sorry. last time i really used it, was on debian lenny, xen-tools, all working ok. have not used xs-tools nor probably the newer kernel
[15:32:40]<mig5>at my current dayjob i'm using vmware esxi
[15:32:46]<mig5>i miss xen
[15:33:47]<Deezire_>xen-tools is the management tools for OSS Xen.org, xs-tools is for the enterpricy xenserver. They just figured out to name more or less the same thing more or less the same.
[15:33:55]<mig5>yeah
[15:33:55]<Deezire_>yeah, xen is awesome
[15:34:01]<mig5>i've only used the oss
[15:34:09]<mig5>so i should've just said 'no' to your original question :)
[15:34:18]<Deezire_>I think i started using xenserver back at version 4.x
[15:34:27]<Deezire_>and just stuck with it, for some obscure reason
[15:34:55]<mig5>i've not seen a good reason to use kvm, the only argument i can get out of the fanatics is 'the linux kernel developers use it!'
[15:35:05]<mig5>zomg.
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[15:35:26]<Deezire_>well, when it comes to linux pre 2.6.32 it was pretty nifty
[15:35:30]<HaloFX>Deezire_: Having ran XenServer and ESXi , I preferred XenServer also.
[15:35:35]<mig5>i've had to support it and found even the damn xml configs unnecessarily complicated
[15:35:50]<Deezire_>but now you don't even have to change kernel to something xen-aware
[15:36:26]<Deezire_>HaloFX: but when virtualizing only Linux it's pretty redundant with a windows gui slapped upon more or less the same stuff :p
[15:37:01]<Deezire_>(espessially when i don't even run windows, so i have to, get this, rdp to a virtual machine running on the host i am about to configure)
[15:37:57]<HaloFX>Deezire_: Well, I run Windows at the desktop, and liked ZenServers management scheme much better than ESXi. The ESXi approach just drove me nuts. Specially at the the time, I only had one server to manage.
[15:38:07]<mig5>finding the vim-cmd vmware cli tools was the best thing ever
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[15:38:18]<mig5>for the same reason (windows gui client crap)
[15:39:09]<Deezire_>Same goes with xenserver, i do most my stuff via xe cli tool
[15:39:10]<HaloFX>Now I just run Hyper-V, and the management tools snap in to Win7.
[15:39:17]<joestewart>Deezire_: lxc might be a fit for you. Still rough around the edges, but worked nicely.
[15:39:32]<Deezire_>joestewart: come again? :)
[15:39:54]<Deezire_>Ah, seen that
[15:40:01]<joestewart>linux containers
[15:40:03]<Deezire_>seems like a bad idea when paravirt works as well as it does
[15:40:17]<Deezire_>feels like stepping back 10 years in development :p
[15:40:22]<joestewart>:)
[15:40:36]<Deezire_>Didnt Solaris deliver something like that?
[15:40:58]<Deezire_>And OpenVZ is more or less the same?
[15:41:32]<joestewart>a successor to OpenVZ
[15:41:37]<Deezire_>ah
[15:41:38]<joestewart>and linux-vserver
[15:42:30]<Deezire_>i remember reading up on everything, but now vmware seem to more or less dominate the area
[15:42:35]<Deezire_>when it comes to corprate
[15:42:43]<Deezire_>well, they have for like 10 years, but
[15:44:03]<HaloFX>VMWare is deeply entrenched.
[15:47:30]<Deezire_>hm, better just go to bed, been at it for way too many hours without coffee or similar
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[19:45:45]<HaloFX>Finally got the multiserver installed! Can I use an existing platform path path on the master to push out to the remote? will this just push out the platform? or all the platforms site also? or just fail?
[19:46:54]<mig5>can't use existing platform path. has to be unique regardless of what server
[19:46:57]<mig5>on the master server.
[19:50:04]<HaloFX>So if I already have a platform named D7 with the path drupal-7.0, I need to copy in another D7 directory and use that, like remote-d7. After the platform is published, do I need to keep the remote-d7 file structure on the master?
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[20:06:50]<skwashd>thanks everyone here who supported buy a line - i received 2kUSD!
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[20:17:01]<mig5>HaloFX: yes
[20:17:56]<mig5>http://community.aegirproject.org/node/441#comment-455
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[23:09:00]<mrbaileys>Hey all. I'm a bit confused about contexts: in an post_hosting_install_hook I'm using d('@my_platform') to load the context of the target platform (which seems to work), yet the root property of the provisionContext_platform object always points to the hostmaster platform root, no @my_platform's root. Is that expected behavior?
[23:10:38]<mrbaileys>When I execute "drush site-alias @my_platform", the root correctly points to @my_platform's root
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[00:08:03]<jvc26>+skwashd: nice work - congrats!
[00:08:36]<skwashd>jvc26: thanks
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[00:20:49]<anarcat>mig5: we're waiting for drush 4.3 before backporting, because we don't want to break aegir
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[01:58:10]<hefring>community => Best poker room => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/443
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[02:31:14]<Deezire_>I still don't get it why this pressflow+varnish setup (with pressflow vcl) does not work properly.
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[03:05:15]<xamox>Anyone know if that new acquia drupal cloud is using aegir as the backend?
[03:09:58]<Deezire_>It may just be me, but has varnish telnet authentication changed so that it does not currently work with the drupal varnish plugin?
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[03:11:28]<Deezire_>As it now is a challanging question, not just a passphrase
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[04:06:10]<hefring>community => Host key verification failed. rsync: connection unexpectedly closed [0.4-rc1] => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/445
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[07:28:36]<smthomas>I have a multiple server setup with Aegir and I was wondering if there is a way to run cron more frequently on one of the servers (or if possible, one of the sites)
[07:29:02]<smthomas>I generally run cron every 30 minutes and that is fine, however I would like to run cron on this site every 5 minutes if possible
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[08:22:54]<EugenMayer>Hello. Iam just curious, should it be expected that if i put something into sites/currentsiteinaegir/themes/atheme .. it should be migrated when the site gets migrated? ( its losgt )
[08:27:30]<smthomas>EugenMayer: If the theme is in the aegir site directory it should be migrated. I just migrated a site today and all my themes came along with it.
[08:27:54]<EugenMayer>what is that you call "aegir site directory"?
[08:28:09]<EugenMayer>sites/all/themes or sites/domain.tld/themes
[08:28:55]<smthomas>sites/domain/themes gets migrated
[08:29:04]<smthomas>I am not sure if sites/all/themes gets migrated
[08:29:43]<EugenMayer>sites/all/themes is part of the platform and has nothing to do with the site migration
[08:29:43]<smthomas>it would make sense if it did not pull with the site but I have never tested it
[08:29:56]<EugenMayer>it will not be, i know the code actually
[08:30:07]<smthomas>ok, then what was your question?
[08:30:22]<EugenMayer>reading the code, the whole sites/domain folder gets tared, untared and synced -> themes should be there
[08:30:36]<EugenMayer>but the theme has been lost ( 100% ) so iam pretty confused
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[08:31:29]<EugenMayer>and it that case we dont speak of the "spoke" model, as the "master" of sites is always the remote
[08:31:34]<EugenMayer>smthomas: are you using remotes
[08:31:35]<EugenMayer>?
[08:31:41]<smthomas>well I guess I know that in my case when I migrated a site earlier today that all my themes (4 of them)
[08:31:54]<smthomas>yes I migrated a site from my local development server to my production server
[08:32:00]<EugenMayer>so remote
[08:32:02]<EugenMayer>odd.
[08:32:04]<smthomas>yes
[08:32:12]<EugenMayer>was one of those the aegir master?
[08:32:22]<EugenMayer>(dev server? )
[08:32:24]<smthomas>the development server is the aegir master
[08:32:29]<EugenMayer>ok that could be the issues
[08:32:49]<EugenMayer>i just smell that the site has not been tared -> untared on the master -> synced back
[08:33:15]<EugenMayer>but rather just synced. As the theme module only has been created on the remote in the domain/theme folder, it has not yet been on the master -> lost
[08:33:29]<smthomas>yes I have seen that
[08:33:35]<EugenMayer>eventhough we could argue "i could and should have verified before"., this is still a flaw
[08:33:58]<smthomas>If I install a module on a remote server and then migrate, I am pretty sure the module is lost so I think you are correct
[08:34:04]<EugenMayer>why we should speak of the "smoke" model for platform we should _never_ ever do this for sites, as this is 100% data loss in cases of unsync
[08:34:36]* EugenMayer opens an issue
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[08:46:12]<EugenMayer>just another curiousity
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[08:46:24]<EugenMayer>could it be that you cannot import sites which are on remotes?
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[08:47:10]<EugenMayer>so if you create a site folder + database like described here http://community.aegirproject.org/node/115 and you run verify on the platform
[08:47:50]<EugenMayer>the site is not getting imported ( detected ). The site folder is 100% working, actually i tested and removed the vhost entry / drushrc.php after it worked, and now trying to import it into aegir again
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[08:50:45]<EugenMayer>looking at the code, i think the "detect side" call only runs locally, but iam not 100% sure. if this is the case, we should better document this. Eventough there is the wording "aeger server", its pretty mixed up with "remote", as the "aegir server" could be a "local remote". We should really change the terminology here. Speaking of "remote clients" and "local clients", while the "hostmaster" is something in additi
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[09:03:40]<omega8cc>to scrum or not to scrum? that is a the question
[09:04:18]<omega8cc>anarcat :)
[09:04:20]<EugenMayer>smthomas: http://drupal.org/node/1079274#comment-4161262
[09:04:33]<EugenMayer>smthomas: YFYI - verifiy would not help
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[09:07:31]<klemax>when i run "php drushrc.php --uri=http://aegir.myhostname.com hosting_setup
[09:07:40]<klemax>i got : PHP Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '[' in /etc/aegir/drushrc.php on line 4
[09:08:19]<klemax>Line 4 is : ['web_group'] = 'www-data';
[09:08:31]<EugenMayer>pretty sure
[09:08:31]<EugenMayer>;
[09:08:41]<EugenMayer>cant be there as it is an assoc array.
[09:08:58]<EugenMayer>but also = is wrong and should be =>
[09:09:07]<klemax>oki
[09:09:10]<EugenMayer>did you compromise the drushrc.phpo yourself?
[09:09:33]<klemax>no. i got it from ubuntu 10 aegir-provision package
[09:09:51]<EugenMayer>what is that?
[09:10:01]<EugenMayer>.deb packageß
[09:10:03]<EugenMayer>?
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[09:10:40]<klemax>aegir-provision_0.3-2ubuntu0.1_all.deb
[09:11:11]<EugenMayer>0.3 ?
[09:11:16]<EugenMayer>what the..
[09:11:24]<klemax>heh
[09:11:35]<omega8cc>poker spam deleted from c.a.o
[09:11:39]<EugenMayer>you are ages behind the current stable and there are seriuos bugs which have been fixed.
[09:12:41]<EugenMayer>klemax: beside the package seem to be broken.. you should really use the normal install script or wait for rc2, i thought i saw anarcat trying to bundle a deb for this release
[09:12:57]<klemax>http://pastebin.com/pbGiH3kT
[09:13:02]<omega8cc>scrum almost over or I missed something 8
[09:13:03]<klemax>this is drushrc.php
[09:13:13]<EugenMayer>klemax: check the issue queue of hosting / provision, there is an issue for that, maybe even with the current deb
[09:13:40]<klemax>EugenMayer: I need a good documentation for this install script.
[09:14:30]<omega8cc>anarcat mig5: network split again or something :)
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[09:16:43]<mig5>in my case i simply forgot
[09:16:50]<mig5>yay
[09:25:10]<omega8cc>mig5: I would also forget, being overloaded, but I have a nice weekly alarm set for scrum in my iCal now :)
[09:34:15]<klemax>EugenMayer: when I tried to upgrade.sh.txt, I got that: http://pastebin.com/DQ4aPZnU
[09:34:29]<EugenMayer>iam off, n8
[09:34:48]<klemax>oki
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[09:38:35]<klemax>can anyone help me what am I missing?
[09:40:33]<mig5>'/etc/aegir/drushrc.php'
[09:40:33]<mig5>wtf
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[09:43:53]<klemax>mig5: http://pastebin.com/aRUNRY2X
[09:44:12]<mig5>config path looks very wrong. why did you set it to /etc/aegir
[09:44:28]<mig5>should be /var/aegir/config on a standard aegir install
[09:46:04]<joestewart>mig5: I think he used a debian package to get /etc/aegir
[09:46:50]<klemax>joestewart: yes I got it from ubuntu package.
[09:46:57]<klemax>what is wrong?
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[09:47:36]<joestewart>I thought Anarcat removed it from Debian awhile back. So I'm surprised at an old Ubuntu package.
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[09:49:04]<joestewart>klemax: aegir has been pretty fast moving and evolving.
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[09:49:57]<klemax>I see.
[09:52:08]<klemax>is there an installation script for drush?
[09:53:16]<joestewart>the aegir installation script also installs drush and drush_make
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[09:55:18]<klemax>==> Drush is broken (php /var/aegir/drush/drush.php help failed)
[09:55:25]<klemax>it says this...
[09:55:40]<klemax>when i run the su -s /bin/sh aegir -c "sh install.sh"
[09:59:50]<HaloFX>I need to migrate my Master Aegir to new hardware. Any best practice?
[10:01:18]<HaloFX>2 Masters can't link together, right? Can a Master clone all the sites to a Remote and then have a new Master import them?
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[10:20:49]<klemax>http://git.aegirproject.org/?p=provision.git;a=blob_plain;f=docs/INSTALL...
[10:21:05]<klemax>this install script failed because of drush.
[10:21:14]<klemax>anyway i will install it manually.
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[10:37:04]<Aurorus>hey folks
[10:37:11]<klemax>hi!
[10:37:11]<hefring>eh oh
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[10:48:59]<bwood>I just attempted to create a aegir platform using SCHOLAR-2-0-BETA10. Result:
[10:50:42]<bwood>aegir (0.4-rc1) successfully verified the platform, but the scholar platform node does not list its packages and it doesn't appear in the list of platforms. Pointer to any special instructions?
[10:53:06]<bwood>oops! wrong channel. Apologies. Moving to #openscholar
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