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| [11:08:28] | <klemax> | how can i add openpublish ? |
| [11:09:12] | <omega8cc> | klemax: maybe uninstall provision and then try the install script again to get the correct version |
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| [11:09:52] | <klemax> | omega8cc: fixed it. |
| [11:10:08] | <klemax> | omega8cc: i just want to add openpublish script to aegir. |
| [11:10:19] | <omega8cc> | klemax: if you have more than 2 GB ram and 4 cpu core, then you can try, but expect it will fail, see reports on the community site |
| [11:10:40] | <klemax> | what will fail? sorry |
| [11:10:50] | <klemax> | adding openpublish script? |
| [11:10:52] | <omega8cc> | open publish platform |
| [11:10:58] | <klemax> | oh no |
| [11:11:02] | <omega8cc> | it is a platform, not script |
| [11:11:08] | <klemax> | ah I see. |
| [11:11:20] | <klemax> | omega8cc: i have a vps |
| [11:11:30] | <omega8cc> | it is a *heavy* drupal distro, see requirements on the op website |
| [11:12:37] | <klemax> | I see, friend :( |
| [11:14:07] | <klemax> | omega8cc: could you give me the link about it? google didnt give me details. :S |
| [11:15:33] | <klemax> | omega8cc: anyway i want to add it and see what happens. |
| [11:15:47] | <klemax> | omega8cc: whats the best way to add that platform? |
| [11:19:02] | <omega8cc> | klemax: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/20 |
| [11:19:53] | <omega8cc> | also http://openpublishapp.com/requirements |
| [11:20:48] | <klemax> | ok |
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| [11:25:08] | <klemax> | omega8cc: thank you for your nice pointer. |
| [11:25:24] | <omega8cc> | np |
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| [11:34:55] | <klemax> | /var/aegir/drush/drush make atrium_stub.make openatrium |
| [11:35:06] | <klemax> | The drush command 'make atrium_stub.make openatrium' could not be found. |
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| [12:40:18] | <anarcat> | omega8cc / mig5 : i was swamped, i missed the scrum, sorry! |
| [12:40:37] | <anarcat> | wednesday is kind of problematic for me, once a month we have a meeting from 3 to 6 (and it's at 5 for me) |
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| [12:44:04] | <anarcat> | mig5: you there? |
| [12:44:16] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: so maybe we will move it back to thu/fri or it will be a problem for our friends from au? |
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| [12:45:21] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: i guess... i guess i missed my chance to do that :P |
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| [12:45:55] | <anarcat> | too bad there's 0.3 in ubuntu... i'm working on a new debian package |
| [12:46:13] | <anarcat> | for 0.4-rc1 |
| [12:46:16] | <anarcat> | or rc2 |
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| [12:47:22] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: any idea when the drush 4.3 will be out? not sure why it isn't already |
| [12:47:29] | <anarcat> | dunno |
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| [12:47:35] | <anarcat> | i was expecting it to be out by now |
| [12:47:51] | <anarcat> | i'm waiting for 4.3 to upload drush to squeeze-backports |
| [12:48:53] | <omega8cc> | yeah, maybe we should ping nice folks from the drush team, or you will ping moshe directly at the intimate event :) |
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| [12:50:44] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: saying something like: moshe, please bring drush 4.3 and I will bring more aegir bear |
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| [13:41:54] | <anarcat> | i cleaned up some issues in the queue and tried to review ergonlogic's work on the docs |
| [13:42:42] | * anarcat has changed the topic to We migrated to git.drupal.org! http://community.aegirproject.org/node/385 | Aegir hosting system 0.4-rc1 released! http://community.aegirproject.org/0.4-rc1 | Issue queue: http://is.gd/edalY | read this before asking: http://community.aegirproject.org/bugs | scrums on wednesday 2200UTC | should we call the next release 1.0? speak up here: http://drupal.org/node/1074876 |
| [13:42:49] | <anarcat> | we need to decide if this is 1.0 |
| [13:43:25] | <alex87> | is drush not working with drupal.org at the moment? |
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| [13:55:43] | <joestewart> | alex87: drush or drush_make? I've been able to dl with drush OK. drush_make has a patch |
| [13:56:47] | <joestewart> | anarcat: 1.0 to conform with d.o. releases? |
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| [23:41:12] | <EugenMayer> | Hello |
| [23:41:12] | <hefring> | ni hao |
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| [04:55:12] | <hefring> | community => After upgrade platform_hostmaster.conf file did not update to rc1 => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/447 |
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| [05:43:52] | <jvc26> | any ideas on why -rc1 has started giving me errors like mysql -u intntnllyInvalid -h 'localhost' -P '3306' |
| [05:44:39] | <jvc26> | I've had a poke around old G.D.O posts on the issue, but these all talk about overly permissive permissions, whereas this is on a vanilla, clean install of drupal with only the root user locally allowed access with a password |
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| [05:45:26] | <jvc26> | wondered why it was using the intntnllyInvalid username when provided with the root access |
| [05:45:52] | <jvc26> | am using the install.sh script from drupalcode.org/project/provision.git, which I imagine is the most recent release |
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| [06:30:16] | <EugenMayer> | Hello |
| [06:30:16] | <hefring> | hola |
| [06:30:31] | <eft> | EugenMayer: how are things? |
| [06:30:53] | <EugenMayer> | Hey! Iam fine, thanks for asking. And how about yuo? |
| [06:30:58] | <EugenMayer> | s/yuo/you |
| [06:31:16] | <eft> | behind on Aegir upgrades, but otherwise fine :) |
| [06:31:45] | <EugenMayer> | Well Aegir..hell of a thing for me |
| [06:32:10] | <eft> | I don't understand |
| [06:32:23] | <EugenMayer> | Currently i have the bad feeling iam the only one using remotes / or at least cares about it as its used in production |
| [06:33:01] | <EugenMayer> | Results in everythiing i find will have to be fixed by me. And thats a hell of a job.. |
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| [06:34:04] | <EugenMayer> | But hey, i did not pay a cent for aegir, so i have to kind of live with it :) |
| [06:34:20] | <eft> | don't know what to suggest - I'm sure the team is doing its best |
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| [06:35:11] | <eft> | yup, it's free but I measure its value not so much in what it costs but what it saves :) |
| [06:35:54] | <EugenMayer> | I think the "remote part" is kind of to big for the next release. anarcat moved the work on it to the 2.0 branch. People are focusing on getting the other things rock solid |
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| [06:37:07] | <EugenMayer> | the bad thing is, i did not know that remotes are that broken when starting with aegir. Eventhough i prototype aegir, i did not find those issues. Now the whole system is build and the pandora box is opened :/ As i cant simply wait for 2.0 - i have to do it myself. |
| [06:37:12] | <anarcat> | EugenMayer: my position right now is that the current design has flaws (slowness, authority problems) that can only be fixed with a redesign, which is too late for |
| [06:37:30] | <anarcat> | EugenMayer: we are in the same situation as you |
| [06:37:41] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: i see, and i undestand you OPV fully |
| [06:37:52] | <anarcat> | "we" = koumbit here |
| [06:38:02] | <EugenMayer> | s/OPV/POV |
| [06:38:04] | <anarcat> | specifically, we only have one web server for aegir rightnow, and that sucks real bad |
| [06:38:23] | <anarcat> | we originally wanted to deploy on redundant servers, but the state of affairs of multiserver is not satisfactory for us |
| [06:38:27] | <anarcat> | it's not a priority for march |
| [06:38:33] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: well iam rolling with 9 right now, 7 big installations, some stages, arround 25 platforms |
| [06:38:36] | <anarcat> | we're trying to focus on that for april |
| [06:38:57] | <anarcat> | EugenMayer: we have more than 25 platforms, but yeah, i see where you are |
| [06:38:59] | <EugenMayer> | And iam migrating ~ every 3-4 days. |
| [06:39:12] | <anarcat> | we actually have two servers - one db one web |
| [06:39:24] | <anarcat> | or two db (slave/master) but aegir doesn't care about that |
| [06:39:24] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: i auto-cleanup platforms. Otherwise i would end up having... holy..100? :( |
| [06:39:31] | <anarcat> | interesting |
| [06:39:35] | <anarcat> | how do you autocleanup? |
| [06:39:48] | <EugenMayer> | implemented. I have a additional relation in aegir |
| [06:40:20] | <EugenMayer> | "Project". Thats a touple of: 1 server, 1..* sites, 1 makefile |
| [06:40:22] | <anarcat> | i see |
| [06:40:52] | <anarcat> | i would like to get your feedback on the new multiserver design, and hopefully your collaboration |
| [06:41:01] | <anarcat> | i want to write up something in the coming weeks |
| [06:41:01] | <EugenMayer> | ever project has a machine name and i have a bunch of logic VBOs which: detect if make files are uptaded, suggesting to auto-create platforms..later suggesting to move the sites ( migrate ) |
| [06:41:20] | <EugenMayer> | After those steps iam cleaning up with an offset of 2 platforms behind the most recent used one ( for rollbacks ). |
| [06:41:51] | <anarcat> | i see |
| [06:41:56] | <anarcat> | that sounds like a useful workflow |
| [06:42:02] | <EugenMayer> | I also did quite a lot of things for "hey could you please deploy me that customer using the dev-make file and a VCS build, use my laptop as server |
| [06:42:03] | <anarcat> | you should share that with others! :) |
| [06:42:11] | <anarcat> | niice |
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| [06:43:04] | <EugenMayer> | and much more things like stuff for fserver tells me if registered projects ( drupal projet - modules ) have commits which are not tagged... in addition i can let make files get check for upgradeable module in minor or major version .. system tells me which make file is affected and stuff |
| [06:43:37] | <EugenMayer> | So kind of "where i can create new releases" and "where i can use newer releases for customers" |
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| [06:44:47] | <EugenMayer> | said all this, you see iam quite tight to aegir already and cant wait. |
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| [06:45:31] | <EugenMayer> | Iam not just deploying wiht aegir one time or "when major releeases happen on OA".. i rather maintain a set of customers.. |
| [06:46:51] | <joestewart> | anarcat: You think there will be some time to get together and talk about mutliserver and cluster stuff in Chicago? |
| [06:47:22] | <anarcat> | joestewart: sure! i'll try to host BOFs about all this |
| [06:48:01] | <EugenMayer> | Pitty all those stuff happens only over in the states |
| [06:48:45] | <anarcat> | over the states? |
| [06:48:58] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: most of the aegir stuff i will contribute and help getting those things done. Most of the other things will not get released. Just because of acquia. |
| [06:49:14] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: United states. There are not too many events for this in europe |
| [06:49:18] | <anarcat> | ah |
| [06:49:24] | <anarcat> | well, i was in copenhagen this summer |
| [06:49:31] | <anarcat> | and i'm not in the US, for WFYI |
| [06:49:35] | <anarcat> | s/W// |
| [06:49:45] | <EugenMayer> | hmm a, eft was canada, right? |
| [06:49:54] | <EugenMayer> | or iam mixing those things up? |
| [06:49:57] | <anarcat> | yeah, eft is on the west coast |
| [06:49:58] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: UK, or? |
| [06:50:00] | <anarcat> | i'm in quebec |
| [06:50:10] | <EugenMayer> | i see |
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| [06:51:08] | <anarcat> | and besides |
| [06:51:22] | <anarcat> | my intention is to bring up the design for the whole community to review and approve before we start working on it |
| [06:51:27] | <anarcat> | which is not the way it was done so far :P |
| [06:51:37] | <anarcat> | so at least, more people will know how the heck this thing works |
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| [06:51:43] | <joestewart> | thank you |
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| [06:52:42] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: i rather expect people to only participate in the bird-view discussion. But anyway some good ideas could be made |
| [06:53:03] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: i think the most interesting point will be the question, how much dependency we will put on the remote |
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| [06:53:30] | <EugenMayer> | We yet need apache controls, mysql controls ( + external port ), some basic tar/rsync/mv/chmod |
| [06:54:18] | <EugenMayer> | -> spole model. This really backfires hard here. Some of the performance issues are related to that approach to keep dependencies as low as possible. And some are just based on simplify code |
| [06:55:16] | <EugenMayer> | as stuff are always synced from the master - no matter what. Makes the code simpler but kind of makes the whole process questinable. Iam not sure aegir can scale with this at all. |
| [06:55:45] | <anarcat> | again, i have a writeup on this almost ready |
| [06:55:50] | <EugenMayer> | great |
| [06:56:02] | <EugenMayer> | be sure to punch me when you release it |
| [06:56:09] | <EugenMayer> | maybe i can add my thoughs |
| [06:56:11] | <anarcat> | EugenMayer: in the meantime, i'd be curious to hear your comments on this already: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/284 |
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| [07:00:16] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: hmm, while i undestand the MQ issue / architecture need, iam curious how you attach the question to it "how to pass files2 |
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| [07:00:40] | <anarcat> | EugenMayer: i don't undertstand your question |
| [07:00:49] | <EugenMayer> | Another requirement is that the queuing system may be network-aware. We want multi-server support and that is a critical issue for the next release (0.4 at the time of writing). One thing to consider is how we pass files around... |
| [07:01:03] | <anarcat> | right |
| [07:01:06] | <EugenMayer> | not sure how this question is related to the MQ |
| [07:01:19] | <anarcat> | so if you want to migrate a site between server A and server B, you need to copy the backup |
| [07:01:27] | <anarcat> | multiserver is not only about message passing |
| [07:01:53] | <anarcat> | so MQ may only solve message passing, but I thought, when I began that research, that the queueing system could also take care of transfeering files |
| [07:01:59] | <anarcat> | but it seems like that's not realistic now |
| [07:02:55] | <EugenMayer> | i think the transport should be seperated _completly_ |
| [07:03:04] | <EugenMayer> | We have several needs there. |
| [07:03:21] | <anarcat> | i agree |
| [07:03:22] | <EugenMayer> | - "transport files - somehow". Or simply transport a stream |
| [07:03:59] | <EugenMayer> | (this could by, scp, ftp, smb, nfs, http upload, scm or what ever people want - just abstraction would be awesome ) |
| [07:04:26] | <EugenMayer> | we need a 2 way transport, so push and pull. But thats pretty much it |
| [07:05:02] | <anarcat> | yep |
| [07:05:07] | <anarcat> | this was the "file server" concept back then |
| [07:05:22] | <EugenMayer> | But there ist the "remote command cli" issue which really needs to get done properly. sure, ssh alias 'command' is one thing to do here, but i think we can do this better |
| [07:05:29] | <anarcat> | which was ditched in favor of the spoke model |
| [07:05:52] | <anarcat> | i need to step away, but this is exactly the kind of discussions that need to happen for 2.0 |
| [07:06:09] | <EugenMayer> | i think one of the really important things aegir should be keeping up to: Only the master can reach the remotes, never communicate from remote to remote directly |
| [07:06:15] | <EugenMayer> | anarcat: have a nice evening |
| [07:06:29] | <anarcat> | thanks :) |
| [07:06:35] | <anarcat> | nice talking with you |
| [07:06:38] | <anarcat> | (for once :P) |
| [07:06:44] | <anarcat> | ;) etc |
| [07:06:45] | <EugenMayer> | ;-) Same |
| [07:10:19] | <eft> | I'm crying - so much love in the channel :) |
| [07:10:29] | <EugenMayer> | hehe |
| [07:11:17] | <eft> | EugenMayer: keep it up - it's great to have you here |
| [07:11:25] | <EugenMayer> | ty |
| [07:11:25] | <anarcat> | same |
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| [08:53:07] | <hefring> | community => Testing sprint in Chicago? => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/448 |
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| [09:20:31] | <NeoID_> | anyone familiar with apachesolar here? Iæve followed this guide, but for some reason I can get access to tomtop, but drupal says solr is not running. Any idea, may the versions be old? http://vladgh.com/blog/apache-solr-tomcat-6-and-drupal-ubuntu-1004 |
| [09:24:00] | <EugenMayer> | NeoID_: use solr with jetty, much easier to setup |
| [09:24:22] | <NeoID_> | EugenMayer, hm... should have known before installing all the packages :( |
| [09:24:45] | <EugenMayer> | NeoID_: you should know that anytime you touch anything with tomcat :) |
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| [09:27:21] | <NeoID> | EugenMayer, ok, I'll give it a try |
| [09:28:06] | <omega8cc> | NeoID: http://davehall.com.au/blog/dave/2010/06/26/multi-core-apache-solr-ubunt... |
| [09:28:33] | <NeoID> | thanks |
| [09:30:19] | <NeoID> | Package 'solr-jetty' has no installation candidate :/ |
| [09:30:31] | <NeoID> | (debian) |
| [09:31:11] | <NeoID> | hm.. it's in sid |
| [09:33:25] | <EugenMayer> | oh oh |
| [09:33:36] | <EugenMayer> | you gonna have pain in the ass using jetty from sid :) |
| [09:33:52] | <EugenMayer> | it has close to one gazzilion deps |
| [09:33:58] | <EugenMayer> | (at least it used too) |
| [09:34:03] | <NeoID> | is the package "jetty" the same as solr-jetty? |
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| [09:34:11] | <EugenMayer> | i rather would advice you to install it manually |
| [09:34:17] | <NeoID> | :( |
| [09:34:49] | <NeoID> | any docs on a manual install? don't want to screw this up once more |
| [09:35:41] | <NeoID> | oh http://vladgh.com/blog/jetty-powered-multicore-apache-solr-and-drupal-ub... uses jetty |
| [09:35:49] | <NeoID> | maybe I should try that one |
| [09:36:50] | <omega8cc> | NeoID: on Debian it is easier to use Tomcat, we have it included by default in Barracuda, with multicore ready to use |
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| [09:38:35] | <NeoID> | omega8cc, on some guides I hear you have to start a file called start.jar or such in order to get the service running, but I can't see that in the guide I linked too, do you know if there's something missing in it? |
| [09:39:55] | <omega8cc> | NeoID: I wrote the installer to never again guide anyone with manual install ;) |
| [09:40:10] | <NeoID> | hehe |
| [09:40:26] | <NeoID> | but I've never had sucess with barracuda :/ |
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| [09:41:23] | <omega8cc> | NeoID: weird, even total newbies can use it (which is my biggest issue, by the way) |
| [09:42:32] | <NeoID> | well, I really don't know, maybe it's just some fundamentally stuff I get wring |
| [09:42:34] | <NeoID> | *wrong |
| [09:42:53] | <omega8cc> | but this is why it is available, to make things easier, so it should work on every compatible system, out of the box |
| [09:43:21] | <omega8cc> | NeoID: so you are on Lenny? |
| [09:43:31] | <NeoID> | yeah |
| [09:43:48] | <omega8cc> | NeoID: and you were running Barracuda with bash? |
| [09:43:54] | <NeoID> | sure |
| [09:44:13] | <omega8cc> | NeoID: what is the host system? Xen? |
| [09:44:23] | <NeoID> | linode |
| [09:44:27] | <NeoID> | so yes |
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| [09:44:53] | <omega8cc> | it works on linode, out of the box, I'm using linode for most of my tests |
| [09:45:24] | <omega8cc> | NeoID: maybe post your steps to reproduce in the queue |
| [09:45:57] | <NeoID> | may the problem be related that I run my own nameserver and it doesn't like me to run the script on the server for that reason? Since I got the DNS-setup problems at the beginning |
| [09:46:26] | <NeoID> | yeah, I guess that might be the best idea |
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| [09:46:41] | <omega8cc> | I also use my own, remote nameservers, it is unrelated |
| [09:47:13] | <NeoID> | hm.. ok |
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| [09:55:41] | <NeoID> | oh, I found my mistake with apachesolr at least |
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