IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-03-07 (GMT)

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[11:26:23]<Aurorus>does anyone have any suggestions on a guide to install Aegir on a brand new VPS?
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[11:30:00]<omega8cc>Aurorus: https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal
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[11:36:41]<Aurorus>ty omega8cc - I'll check it out
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[11:42:44]<EclipseGc>omega8cc: you in Chicago (or coming?)
[11:43:28]<omega8cc>EclipseGc: no
[11:43:35]<EclipseGc>omega8cc: aww too bad
[11:43:40]<omega8cc>yeah
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[12:33:39]<EclipseGc>is aegir logging watchdog to a file?
[12:33:54]<EclipseGc>since there is no watchdog table?
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[12:35:48]<mig5>EclipseGc: no the module is just not enabled as it's not critical to aegir operation. you can just enable it.
[12:37:03]<kvanderw>mig5: I'm getting failures on an install, and would love to have the --debug output... is there any way to do that? (see EclipseGc query RE: logging....)
[12:38:06]<kvanderw>having run the install after turning on DB Logging.... zero output from the run to watchdog.... so... argh!......
[12:38:27]<mig5>well the install would be bootstrapping the *new* site database...
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[12:39:22]<kvanderw>right... I was able to do a 'watch' at the command line and see the 'aegir' jobs, as well as the 'sites' folder contents as they come.... and the go... with the failure.
[12:39:44]<mig5>you could try the provision-save / provision-install commands found in the task log, from the CLI, and add --debug
[12:40:25]<kvanderw>that is what I have been doing...
[12:40:38]<kvanderw>my point of curiosity is, what folder should I be in when I do it.
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[12:40:46]<kvanderw>since I get different output based on the folder.
[12:40:55]<mig5>it shouldn't matter if you are referencing the drush alias.
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[12:41:15]<mig5>drush @newsite provision-save...; drush @newsite provision-install --debug
[12:41:17]<kvanderw>in /var/aegir... I get 3-400 character output
[12:41:44]<kvanderw>in /var/aegir/platform/pf1... I get 5-6000 character output
[12:42:12]<kvanderw>command is /var/aegir/drush/drush.php @kickstart provision-install-backend --backend
[12:42:14]<mig5>sounds like an alias is being left out, which is causing it to bootstrap based on the pwd, which is bad already
[12:42:39]<mig5>did you do a provision-save first?
[12:42:39]<kvanderw>alias?
[12:43:14]<kvanderw>used front-end.... installed platform... then tied to build a site.
[12:43:24]<mig5>drush alias.
[12:43:26]<mig5>the @ bit
[12:43:29]<kvanderw>platform install went with fine.
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[12:43:48]<kvanderw>yea... I thought you were referencing the @kcikstart
[12:44:01]<kvanderw>that is kept in the .drush folder.... right?
[12:44:21]<mig5>/var/aegir/drush/drush.php --uri='example.com' provision-save '@example.com' --context_type='site' --platform='@platform_whatever' --profile='your_profile' --debug
[12:44:24]<mig5>/var/aegir/drush/drush.php @example.com provision-install --debug
[12:44:42]<mig5>those two commands are a known way to install a site from cli
[12:44:47]<mig5>both are required
[12:44:56]<mig5>provision-save first (to generate the actual drush alias in ~/.drush)
[12:44:58]<mig5>second to install the site
[12:45:05]<mig5>bbl
[12:45:15]<kvanderw>thanks
[12:46:07]<kvanderw>mig5: are you in Chicago?
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[13:17:43]<mig5>nah
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[13:56:08]<EclipseGc>mig5: not coming to chicago?
[13:57:09]<mig5>nope
[14:00:04]<EclipseGc>mig5: aww, disappointing
[14:01:15]<mig5>anarcat will be there
[14:01:23]<mig5>i don't really even work on aegir anymore :/
[14:01:34]<EclipseGc>haha, ok then
[14:01:39]<EclipseGc>brb
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[14:13:07]<secoif>ugh, so i tried upgrading aegir last night, failed and I think I've dun goofed my drush/aegir install
[14:13:20]<secoif>aegir's verify method works :D
[14:13:26]<secoif>backups are fail though
[14:13:51]<secoif>it's all like
[14:13:54]<secoif>"Could not find a Drupal settings.php file at ./sites/default/settings.php."
[14:14:04]<secoif>"Site was not found."
[14:14:10]<secoif>"Backup directory does not exist."
[14:14:12]<secoif>etc
[14:14:18]<secoif>I am a bad person
[14:17:28]<bgm>try to verify the platform
[14:17:32]<secoif>oh yes
[14:17:34]<secoif>good idea
[14:17:38]<secoif>thanks
[14:18:01]<bgm>it happens when the drush alias is not set, but the "backup directory" message is probably linked to the platform
[14:18:37]<bgm>and sometimes the site verify doesn't work when the platform itself has not been verified
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[14:18:48]<bgm>(I have broken more than a few aegir installs while upgrading ;-)
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[14:20:56]<secoif>yeah i tried alpha8 -> rc1... turns out it's not just a matter of following the instructions step by step
[14:21:29]<secoif>tut.
[14:21:49]<secoif>bgm: verify platform = success, backup site same fail
[14:22:28]<secoif>it looks like it's trying to load, the default site instead of the site I'm trying to backup
[14:22:30]<secoif>"Initialized Drupal site default at sites/default"
[14:22:52]<bgm>it does that when i cannot find the drushrc alias in /var/aegir/.drush/
[14:23:02]<secoif>aahh
[14:23:18]<bgm>verify usually fixes that, but maybe it is not just the platform
[14:24:15]<bgm>then again, maybe you should rollback and re-try the upgrade. you have to be very careful to any error message during the upgrade
[14:25:11]<secoif>I also think I might try using alpha9 upgrade instructions
[14:25:16]<secoif>isntead of the rc1
[14:25:19]<secoif>*instead
[14:25:41]<bgm>i did an alpha8 -> rc1 recently, it worked well, but SSL stuff had broken badly
[14:25:43]<secoif>perhaps alpha8->rc1 is too much of a jump
[14:25:52]<secoif>hrm
[14:25:59]<bgm>yeah, it does the whole multi-server stuff, drush aliases, etc
[14:27:31]<secoif>this is the output of my .drush folder, can see the remnants of my upgrade failutre
[14:27:36]<secoif>http://pastebin.com/eBcPwMQ4
[14:27:53]<secoif>think i should delete them?
[14:29:14]<bgm>no, not necessary
[14:29:35]<bgm>you should keep the server_master alias for sure, and the one for hostmaster and your paltform
[14:29:41]<bgm>but there should be sites in there too
[14:29:47]<secoif>oh.
[14:29:48]<bgm>did you run verify on the sites?
[14:29:57]<secoif>yep
[14:30:03]<secoif>says AOK
[14:30:34]<bgm>it should generate files such as: test7.aegir.localhost.alias.drushrc.php, for sites
[14:30:47]<secoif>hrm
[14:30:48]<bgm>(here the site URL is test7.aegir.localhost)
[14:31:09]<bgm>also, check if aegir really did upgrade
[14:31:26]<bgm>sometimes it rolls back after an error, but then you have the new provision, with old aegir, and it does weird stuff
[14:31:39]<bgm>i.e. check the document root for apache2ctl -S
[14:31:53]<secoif>oh I couldnt' even upgrade the thing
[14:31:54]<bgm>(grep for your aegir URL)
[14:32:00]<secoif>drush wouldn't touch it
[14:32:04]<bgm>oh :)
[14:32:04]<secoif>it was all like
[14:32:15]<secoif>"wtf is provision-migrate"
[14:32:33]<secoif>I kept backups of all the other folders excepts .drush
[14:32:35]<secoif>damn it
[14:32:45]<secoif>well I have a full server backup
[14:32:52]<bgm>in previous versions, i don't think it kept much in .drush
[14:32:56]<secoif>but that'll take ages to load
[14:33:02]<secoif>oh.
[14:34:09]<bgm>so running the aegir upgrade procedure aborts because it cannot find the @hostmaster alias?
[14:34:58]<secoif>it was a similar error to what I'm getting now
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[14:35:39]<bgm>you have to be more specific :)
[14:36:20]<bgm>i.e. pastebin of the upgrade log
[14:36:51]<bgm>but i should be going.. need to prepare an Aegir presentation for CiviCon tomorrow :)
[14:37:00]<bgm>(i'm working on provision_civicrm)
[14:37:20]<secoif>sweet.
[14:37:26]<secoif>yeah I pastebinned it last night but turns out I didn't copy the url correctly :/
[14:37:36]<secoif>now logs are, somewhere
[14:37:38]<secoif>ugh
[14:38:10]<secoif>but it seemed like I'd screwed up the drush configuration or something
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[15:57:26]<SeanBannister>Is there any chance we could get an RSS feed on http://community.aegirproject.org/discussion
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[16:00:09]<mig5>SeanBannister: http://community.aegirproject.org/discussion/feed
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[18:44:47]<EugenMayer>nybody is running in that issues, that suddenly the js / css aggregated files are deleted / missing and the layout is broken, until i run cache clear again?
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[18:57:13]<eft>EugenMayer: for your hostmaster site or your platform sites?
[18:57:43]<EugenMayer>remote site, looks like it could be tight to the cron run ( hosting feaure )
[18:57:57]<EugenMayer>my base-themes are in sites/all/themes
[18:58:09]<EugenMayer>the individual themes are under sites/foo/themes
[18:58:29]<eft>Glad I could help :o
[18:58:50]<eft>how about this one http://community.aegirproject.org/node/460
[18:58:57]<EugenMayer>Currently, sometimes the js / css aggregated files get lost, sometime the whole theme cant be found (templates ) until the next cc
[18:59:02]<eft>Need to add projects[drupal][type] = core to your make files
[18:59:29]<EugenMayer>eft: hehe no, thats normal drush make foo
[18:59:42]<EugenMayer>you need at least
[18:59:52]<EugenMayer>projects[]= drupal
[19:00:02]<EugenMayer>thats fine, but it always has been that way
[19:00:07]<EugenMayer>or is that drush 4 ?
[19:00:35]<eft>defining the type as core has not alway been that way
[19:00:37]<EugenMayer>in my case it is not make-file related as the platforms do not get regenerated in the meantime nor a verify gets caled
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[19:01:03]<eft>didn't mean to suggest it was related to your issue with cc
[19:01:12]<eft>more of a heads up
[19:01:20]<eft>because this hit me today
[19:01:34]<EugenMayer>eft: hm, it always workd the projects[]= drupal way .. but i see that when i generate make files, i do it the same you have written above
[19:01:44]<EugenMayer>eft: thanks :) Even more fishy with drush is
[19:01:47]<eft>http://drupal.org/node/950018#comment-4160908
[19:01:54]<EugenMayer>that if you run 2 make processes at the same time, it will freak out :)
[19:02:14]<eft>I'm not that smart ;)
[19:02:26]<eft>to be running more than one make process at a time
[19:02:40]<EugenMayer>well thats what aegir does
[19:02:53]<EugenMayer>it build ~12 platforms, all from a make file. only 1 complets
[19:03:03]<EugenMayer>'aegir in my case'
[19:04:19]<hefring>community => Need to add projects[drupal][type] = core to your make files => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/460
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[19:05:35]<eft>now that what I call a subject line
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[20:09:27]<romaingar>Hi all, What is the best way to add an htpasswd to a site ? I tried to put an .htaccess inside the site folder, it doesn't work. Dou I have to make a drush .inc file ?
[20:11:15]<omega8cc>romaingar: http://drupal.org/project/securesite
[20:13:23]<romaingar>thanks omega but i've used an drupal 7 plateform....
[20:20:19]<romaingar>I'm going to try to use the doc exemple : http://community.aegirproject.org/node/70 with the provision_apache_vhost_config hook
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[20:27:14]<romaingar>I've found this file ... /var/aegir/config/server_master/nginx/vhost.d/[my_site].com
[20:27:44]<romaingar>Do you think hat i can change the vhost configuration of my site inside ?
[20:30:49]<romaingar>ok not inside /var/aegir/config/server_master/nginx/vhost.d/[my_site].com, but inside /var/aegir/config/includes/nginx_simple_include_[MY_SITE].conf
[20:31:05]<romaingar>who is included inside the first file
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[21:04:18]<EugenMayer>siliconmeadow: good news, http://drupal.org/node/1083386
[21:04:24]<EugenMayer>someone did implement it :)
[21:04:43]<EugenMayer>siliconmeadow: maybe also handy for you: http://drupal.org/node/1083366
[21:05:55]<romaingar>ok it's works ! to change vhost configuration i've create a custom conf file in /var/aegir/config/includes and change the include call inside var/aegir/config/server_master/nginx/vhost.d/[my_site].com that's all
[21:06:53]<siliconmeadow>EugenMayer: who implented it? Do you mean "you"? :-)
[21:07:00]<EugenMayer>Someone, dont know him
[21:07:15]<EugenMayer>last night. He just appeared infont of my screen
[21:07:19]<EugenMayer>used my keyboard
[21:07:28]<EugenMayer>;-)
[21:07:43]<EugenMayer>siliconmeadow: in your case the speedup should be even more
[21:08:05]<EugenMayer>siliconmeadow: the installation i benchmarked has ~1900 nodes with ~8000 revision
[21:08:16]<EugenMayer>nodeaccess, taxonomyaccess and contentaccess
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[21:11:05]<siliconmeadow>my nodeaccess table ~269,385 rows
[21:11:20]<EugenMayer>holy sh....
[21:11:37]<EugenMayer>funny verify :)
[21:12:05]<EugenMayer>you might need http://drupal.org/node/1075002
[21:12:10]<siliconmeadow>rebuild. That's funny. Esp innodb
[21:12:16]<EugenMayer>Hehe.
[21:12:49]<EugenMayer>siliconmeadow: is it done remotely or on the aegir masteR?
[21:13:04]<siliconmeadow>same machine
[21:13:13]<EugenMayer>be happy
[21:13:19]<EugenMayer>if it is a remote, like in my case
[21:13:28]<EugenMayer>it is ~10 times slower or even more
[21:13:39]<EugenMayer>i suggest even a factor above 20, but i will benchmark it
[21:14:19]<EugenMayer>so in you case it would most likely take more then 2 days
[21:14:23]<siliconmeadow>I wish I had more time to work on it
[21:14:49]<siliconmeadow>I might do in the evening when I get home and let it run overnight
[21:14:59]<siliconmeadow>on my laptop
[21:15:04]<EugenMayer>well working on aegir is .. well a customer wont care about it. You dont make money .. its all infrastructure.
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[22:09:27]<adrinux>hmm. think I need to add a reminder to my task manager: clean out aegir backups sometimes
[22:15:14]<EugenMayer>adrinux: just create a hook
[22:15:22]<EugenMayer>"post_backup" .. in .drush
[22:15:37]<EugenMayer>and delete all backups -3 or something
[22:15:50]<adrinux>'just' :)
[22:15:59]<EugenMayer>its a fiver
[22:16:05]<EugenMayer>'five liner
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[22:20:45]<mig5>or implement http://drupal.org/project/hosting_backup_gc
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[22:22:09]<EugenMayer>mig5: do you have 2 mins?
[22:24:26]<EugenMayer>:/
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[22:42:54]<EugenMayer>anybody familiar with tha --packages option in drush? I expect we have a bug in aegir when modules / themes are in site/foor/ .. as they are not part of the packages
[22:43:09]<EugenMayer>so e.g. modules get deactivated due cron runs and even worse things
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[00:24:19]<pkej>I have a question about cron. Do I have to add cron for each of the sites created with aegir, or will the hosting dispatch fix it all?
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[00:30:00]<EugenMayer>pkej: depends
[00:30:14]<EugenMayer>aegir has a feature which can run cron for you on all sites
[00:30:46]<EugenMayer>if you have solr running, if you have anything in sites/foo/modules ../themes ... you better not use this cron
[00:31:01]<EugenMayer>as its pretty broken :) Not the aegir part though, the "remote cron" implemented by drus
[00:31:03]<EugenMayer>drush
[00:31:08]<pkej>ok
[00:31:14]<EugenMayer>so it depends on your needs
[00:31:56]<pkej>WHat do I do with downloaded modules?
[00:32:00]<pkej>I mean
[00:32:29]<pkej>If I put them in one platform, all the sites off that platform will list the modules and that might be slow (in my experience)
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[00:33:03]<pkej>Should I create platforms for each different site "type"?
[00:33:03]<EugenMayer>"downloaded modules"
[00:33:09]<EugenMayer>are modules in sites/yoursite/modules?
[00:33:13]<pkej>contributed modules
[00:33:16]<pkej>ah, wait
[00:33:23]<pkej>I have to check out how things look in the filesys
[00:33:34]<EugenMayer>you put them int sites/all/modules - just like you always do
[00:33:58]<pkej>I see now, aegir creates normal multisite directories in sites
[00:34:15]<EugenMayer>yes
[00:34:24]<pkej>ok, now I have to google downgrading php 5.3.3 to get pressflow 6 to work
[00:34:25]<EugenMayer>and if you put something there you better not run the aegir-cron
[00:34:35]<pkej>roger
[00:34:38]<EugenMayer>fine
[00:34:42]<pkej>ah
[00:34:59]<pkej>hmm, you said better not run the aegir cron; will it break the aegir workflow as well?
[00:35:09]<pkej>I mean when creating sites and platforms+
[00:35:14]<EugenMayer>yes and no, see my patches
[00:35:35]<pkej>ouch
[00:35:44]<EugenMayer>http://drupal.org/node/1083366
[00:35:52]<pkej>I gues I know what happened to my last aegir install on my router
[00:35:52]<EugenMayer>http://drupal.org/node/1079274
[00:36:01]<pkej>It suddenly stopped croning, couldn't use aegir at all
[00:36:17]<pkej>mig5 suggeted creating a completly dedicated aegir computer, which is what I'm running now
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[00:37:21]<pkej>tnx for the heads up!
[00:40:17]<adrinux>Time for some new platform builds….time to update my drush make files to use git repos on drupal.org \o/
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[00:41:55]<EugenMayer>adrinux: time for sed :)
[00:42:18]<EugenMayer>adrinux: or time for drush_make_ui + update_feed_api + update_feed_cck
[00:42:47]<adrinux>you I did finally manage to get those installed - but never did figure out how it all worked
[00:43:02]<EugenMayer>well i use them all in production :)
[00:43:32]<adrinux>yeah, I need to update them too. and have another play
[00:43:40]<EugenMayer>well use github
[00:43:51]<adrinux>I did/am/have
[00:43:51]<EugenMayer>the d.o versions are far out of date
[00:44:05]<adrinux>I think...
[00:44:25]<EugenMayer>with the current github version you should pretty much get it working OOtB without anything special
[00:44:38]<EugenMayer>drupal.org modules should be available after the frist cron run / refresh
[00:44:42]<adrinux>ok. will do another build today
[00:44:50]<EugenMayer>so you can just pick and play with autocompletition + releases
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[00:56:58]<pkej>Drush: Should it be installed using apt-get or wget on the aegir user?
[00:57:59]<pkej>hmm, ok it is already there in aegir
[00:59:15]<pkej>Hmm, I followed instructions at: http://mrkandy.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/install-php-5-2-x-in-ubuntu-10-0... to downgrade php-5.3.3 to 5.2.10
[00:59:29]<pkej>now cron stopped working on the aegir box…
[01:02:20]<pkej>This task has not been processed yet: It will be processed around 15:03:02+0100, if the queue is not too crowded. The queue is currently run every 1 min, was last run 17 min ago and processes 5 items at a time. Server time is 15:02:06+0100.
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[01:14:14]<EugenMayer>adrinux: you are using backup migrate?
[01:14:30]<adrinux>the module?
[01:14:31]<adrinux>no
[01:14:33]<EugenMayer>ye
[01:14:37]<EugenMayer>ok.
[01:16:51]<pkej>EugenMayer: is there an installprofile for the drush_make_ui?
[01:17:48]<pkej>Solved my cron problem; the downgrading removed the ubuntu drush, i just softlinked the drush from /var/aegir, and now it works
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[01:24:10]<EugenMayer>pkej: no
[01:24:18]<pkej>tnx
[01:24:46]<pkej>I'll download and check it out, the screenshot and your description above seems awesome
[01:25:41]<pkej>whoops, no time, almost forgot kindergarten!
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[01:35:10]<lukus>hi - I've started to receive a problem while working with sites - "SQLSTATE[28000] [1045] Access denied for user 'aegir_root' .... "
[01:35:26]<lukus>I'm currently using beta2
[01:35:41]<lukus>afaik all the grants are okay
[01:39:57]<lukus>I can actually login using the user and host credentials via the command line
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[01:42:55]<EugenMayer>lukus: be sure the host is correct
[01:43:06]<lukus>hi EugenMayer
[01:43:49]<adrinux>yeah lukus, sounds like a networking issue
[01:44:03]<EugenMayer>and with the host i mean
[01:44:09]<lukus>hmm.. okay - I'll continue investigating .. thx
[01:44:15]<EugenMayer>even iff foo.domain.tld is 127.0.0.1
[01:44:35]<EugenMayer>and you set that aegir_root@foo.damain.tld can connect
[01:44:47]<EugenMayer>you wont be able to connect using mysql -h localhost
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[01:45:05]<lukus>I used the -h parameter to connect via the command line successfully
[01:45:23]<lukus>using the tld
[01:45:40]<lukus>but haven't tried @ syntax
[01:47:46]<lukus>ah ha
[01:48:21]<lukus>user error
[01:48:29]<lukus>I'd set grants using an incorrect p/w
[01:48:48]<lukus>thx for the advice
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[02:04:39]<lukus>I spoke too soon ;) .. changing the password forced a platform validate which appeared to solve my install problem .. but didn't
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[02:11:00]<lukus>does 3306 need to be open in beta2 as an incoming port?
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[02:38:11]<lukus>hi - i'm not receiving Output from failed command : Fatal error: Call to a member function quote()
[02:38:18]<lukus>s/not/now
[02:38:29]<lukus>should I upgrade to rc1?
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[03:13:15]<skwashd>omega8cc: hey
[03:13:27]<skwashd>where should i send the list?
[03:14:01]<omega8cc>skwashd: noc@omega8.cc
[03:15:24]<omega8cc>skwashd: it will be in the hotel room? I didn't know the rooms there are so big :)
[03:17:20]<skwashd>omega8cc: sent
[03:17:30]<skwashd>yes ... but we are trying to work out an alternative
[03:18:20]<omega8cc>skwashd: thanks, we will provision them now
[03:18:33]<skwashd>dankeshoen
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[03:21:50]<skwashd>i'm off
[03:21:51]<skwashd>ttyl
[03:22:00]<skwashd>thanks heaps omega8cc
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[03:52:56]* anarcat in chicago
[03:55:00]<adrinux>have fun
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[05:09:28]<Vertice>so who's all at drupalcon ?
[05:09:28]<hefring>Vertice: 1 week 4 days ago <anarcat> tell Vertice do you have *any* idea what the hosting module would have weight 10 in the system table? that seems to be our biggest upgrade path problem
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[08:36:20]<HaloFX>When remote servers/sites are created, does Aegir push Drush out also?
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[09:07:30]<omega8cc>HaloFX: there is no drush on remote
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[09:11:08]<omega8cc>Vertice: anarcat + skwashd + mortendk + moshe are there to show some Aegir + Drush magic tonight :)
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[09:23:33]<EugenMayer>Hello
[09:23:33]<hefring>hey
[09:23:51]<EugenMayer>how do we add something to the crontab programmaticaly? (crontabe -e .. )
[09:24:17]* EugenMayer .. oh goodness sorry..
[09:26:24]<Aurorus>Hey guys - got an interesting conundrum that I need help with. :) I have a Debian 5.0.8 VPS running, and have set up Aegir with a special long DNS name that we had for VPS resolution. We've got a new DNS name that we need to use now for the hostmaster - how can I tell Aegir to use the new domain name?
[09:26:40]<Aurorus>e.g. https://really.long.domain.com -> https://aegir.domain.com
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[09:29:37]<omega8cc>Aurorus: add an alias domain
[09:30:03]<Aurorus>that would be an Apache alias ?
[09:30:09]<Aurorus>omega8cc
[09:30:40]<omega8cc>Aurorus: in the Aegir control panel, enable aliases feature first
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[09:31:03]<omega8cc>it will create it in the vhost for you
[09:31:38]<rocksoup>omega8cc: pm about aegir session at dcon question?
[09:32:07]<omega8cc>Aurorus: enable aliases feature and you will see the textarea for aliases in the site node edit form
[09:32:42]<omega8cc>rocksoup: I'm not there, so not sure how can I help?
[09:32:56]<rocksoup>question about IP to use for DNS
[09:33:04]<rocksoup>omega8cc: ^
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[09:34:08]<omega8cc>rocksoup: it is explained in detail with examples in the big welcome e-mail, have you received it?
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[09:34:38]<rocksoup>ah
[09:34:49]<rocksoup>saw one email, missed that one- thanks!
[09:35:07]<omega8cc>rocksoup: also, the IP is visible in the Aegir, np
[09:35:41]<rocksoup>got it now - thanks again. looking forward to giving it a test drive
[09:35:55]<omega8cc>rocksoup: feel free to ask if there is anything I could help with etc
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[09:36:03]<Aurorus>omega8cc: Thank you for the direction - it enabled okay, however it's failed with a verification. The error is that "/var/aegir/hostmaster-HEAD could not be synced to remote server alias.domain.com error: Host key verification failed. rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far)"
[09:36:20]<omega8cc>rocksoup: great
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[09:38:17]<omega8cc>Aurorus: so you have wrong/changed hostname maybe? check what domain is the drush aliases for hostmaster and try to fix it there (in .drush) the domain used must resolve to local IP
[09:39:08]<Aurorus>Ahh....I think I might have to edit the hosts file :-/
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[09:39:22]<omega8cc>bad move
[09:40:08]<Aurorus>ok, in .drush, it has the correct alias
[09:40:47]<Aurorus>when I access the alias domain from https, it is asking me to select an installation profile (Drupal or Hostmaster) and proceed with a Garland themed install
[09:40:56]<omega8cc>you shouldn't try to switch cars while your are in the race already, or your grants/aliases etc will explode
[09:41:10]<omega8cc>too much at once
[09:41:19]<Aurorus>yep, good call omega8cc
[09:41:24]<omega8cc>try to fix one problem at time
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[09:44:25]<Aurorus>omega8cc: The alias is set up in Aegir, however accessing it via HTTPS results in a new installation screen - have you any ideas what to do here?
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[09:45:24]<omega8cc>Aurorus: you have https configured there properly? maybe try to disable it and fix aliases first
[09:46:10]<omega8cc>the install screen is a sign of issue with either permissions in settings.php or wrong path in the vhost
[09:46:49]<omega8cc>check if paths are correct in vhosts
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[09:51:02]<EugenMayer>Aurorus: aliases work with and without ssl
[09:51:28]<EugenMayer>(beside non ssl sites are name-based hosts and ssl sites are IP based hosts...what a mess)
[09:51:48]<Aurorus>Ok, so disabling SSL for simplicity, we're not able to view the alias.domain.com, whereas the aegir.long.name.domain.com works fine
[09:52:03]<Aurorus>Where do I need to update the alias.domain.com - in Apache or in Aegir?
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[09:58:12]<Aurorus>Ok, am getting this Aegir error: "Host key verification failed. rsync: connection unexpectedly closed" which suggests that the SSH key that Aegir is using is incorrect. However, should it be using an SSH key to connect to itself via an external IP address?
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[10:00:39]<Aurorus>omega8cc: Am I needing to set up Aegir aliases, or Apache aliases or both?
[10:01:05]<omega8cc>Aurorus: you have domain somewhere in your drush aliases not pointing you your local IP probably, so Aegir is trying to connect it as it was remote server
[10:01:21]<omega8cc>Aurorus: DRUSH aliases :)
[10:01:48]<omega8cc>in the /var/aegir/.drush
[10:01:51]<Aurorus>omega8cc: they are located in /var/aegir/.drush ?
[10:01:54]<Aurorus>heh, cool
[10:01:55]<omega8cc>yep
[10:02:04]<Aurorus>server_master.alias.drushrc.php ?
[10:02:41]<Aurorus>'aliases' =>
[10:02:41]<Aurorus> array (
[10:02:42]<Aurorus> 0 => 'alias.comain.com',
[10:02:42]<Aurorus> ),
[10:02:46]<omega8cc>yes, check also hostmaster.alias.drushrc.php
[10:02:58]<Aurorus>I have that as part of the hostmaster.alias.drushrc.php
[10:03:58]<omega8cc>check what you have as a "remote_host" there
[10:04:16]<omega8cc>it is probably some domain not resolving locally
[10:04:32]<omega8cc>I mean in server_master.alias.drushrc.php
[10:04:36]<Aurorus>there's no remote_host in the hostmaster file, however there is a remote_host in the server_master
[10:04:42]<Aurorus>ahh, yep, let me check
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[10:05:04]<Aurorus>remote_host => alias.domain.com
[10:05:18]<Aurorus>ip_addresses => array ( 'external ip address' )
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[10:05:27]<Aurorus>should I change that to 127.0.0.1 ?
[10:05:29]<omega8cc>so, are you sure alias.domain.com resolves to local IP?
[10:05:33]<omega8cc>no
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[10:05:37]<omega8cc>it should be name
[10:05:41]<omega8cc>not IP
[10:06:00]<Aurorus>yes, the alias.domain.com (in remote_host ) resolves to the correct external VPS ip address correctly
[10:06:31]<omega8cc>external?
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[10:07:00]<omega8cc>the name "remote" doesn't mean it should be remote
[10:07:25]<omega8cc>it is by default local, unless you added remote stuff to this game
[10:07:25]<Aurorus>an IP address that is able to be accessed via the internet (111.223.x.x)
[10:07:40]<omega8cc>so public IP
[10:07:45]<Aurorus>yep, public ip
[10:07:47]<omega8cc>but not remote
[10:07:50]<omega8cc>ok
[10:08:28]<omega8cc>so
[10:08:55]<Aurorus>did you want a pastebin of the master_server file?
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[10:09:13]<omega8cc>now fix your hostname so it will match remote_host value or edit remote_host value so it will match your FQDN hostname
[10:09:33]<omega8cc>that will fix the problem
[10:09:52]<Aurorus>so that's /etc/hostname ? I am able to just edit that file?
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[10:09:59]<omega8cc>then re-verify server node in Aegir
[10:10:24]<omega8cc>it is not enough
[10:10:47]<omega8cc>what you have in response to uname -n ?
[10:11:11]<EugenMayer>Aurorus: hostname 'newhostname'
[10:11:11]<Aurorus>ok, I've just done a "hostname alias.domain.com" and uname -n returns "alias.domain.com"
[10:11:28]<EugenMayer>Aurorus: + edit /etc/hostname .. if you dont run the first command you will need to reboot
[10:11:29]<omega8cc>and it matches remote_host value?
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[10:11:55]<EugenMayer>Aurorus: your FQDN is not setup right.
[10:11:56]<Aurorus>now it matches remote_host omega8cc
[10:12:00]<EugenMayer>hostname -f
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[10:12:07]<omega8cc>right, check your /etc/hostname also
[10:12:50]<omega8cc>Aurorus: now goto Aegir and try to re-verify the server node
[10:12:52]<pkej>EugenMayer: I've been trying out drush_make_ui
[10:13:09]<Aurorus>omega8cc: /etc/hostname is very.long.domain.name
[10:13:12]<EugenMayer>pkej: with success?
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[10:13:23]<EugenMayer>Aurorus: thats wrong.
[10:13:23]<Aurorus>I can just edit that, omega8cc without repercussions?
[10:13:33]<pkej>EugenMayer: It won't save to the database after trying to fetch the data
[10:13:37]<omega8cc>Aurorus: change it to match your uname -n
[10:13:39]<Aurorus>EugenMayer: yeah, quite :-/
[10:13:59]<Aurorus>ok, done omega8cc
[10:14:09]<EugenMayer>pkej: "the database"? You mean update_feed_api?
[10:14:25]<Aurorus>omega8cc: now to verify 'localhost' server?
[10:14:46]<omega8cc>you have more than one server nodes?
[10:14:48]<pkej>EugenMayer: yeah, after running refresh_update_feeds i get the feeed back "could not save xxx to database"
[10:14:55]<omega8cc>separate for web server and db?
[10:15:04]<EugenMayer>pkej: did you ran updatedb before?
[10:15:10]<Aurorus>omega8cc: I have two server nodes "localhost" and "alias.domain.com" in Aegir
[10:15:17]<pkej>EugenMayer: doh!
[10:15:23]<EugenMayer>pkej: when you fetch d.o module, arround1k modules cannot be fetched. Thats normal
[10:15:50]<EugenMayer>pkej: they are broken, broken or broken. E.g. have been delete (but still in the feed yes .. )
[10:16:01]<omega8cc>Aurorus: so re-verify that node with attached web server
[10:16:06]<pkej>EugenMayer: It wants to try to fetch around 9500 items...
[10:16:06]<Aurorus>omega8cc: Ahh! localhost is DB, no web. alias.domain.com is web but no DB
[10:16:09]<EugenMayer>more or lesse, the d.o projects-all feed is a mess :)
[10:16:23]<EugenMayer>pkej: thats the count of the projects on d.o, that perfectly right
[10:16:27]<Aurorus>omega8cc: Have verified both localhost and alias.domain.com - both verified successfully
[10:16:29]<pkej>EugenMayer: No database updates neccessary, it says
[10:16:32]<EugenMayer>should take ~ 15-25 seconds
[10:16:45]<omega8cc>Aurorus: that is by design when you are running db on localhost only, then you have separate nodes
[10:16:47]<EugenMayer>pkej: are you using github versions?
[10:16:56]<omega8cc>Aurorus: great
[10:17:05]<pkej>EugenMayer: No, It churned through for around 30 minutes, 10 by 10 (anything else overrode my memory limit of 256M
[10:17:24]<EugenMayer>pkej: then you are not using the github version
[10:17:31]<Aurorus>omega8cc: the http://alias.domain.com is still not showing Aegir though
[10:17:41]<EugenMayer>please be sure to fetch all modules from github and not d.o as i did not release for ~5 months
[10:17:48]<EugenMayer>the d.o releases are broken
[10:18:00]<pkej>EugenMayer: I'm pretty sure I used git clone for those, I'll try again
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[10:18:13]<omega8cc>Aurorus: so add it as an alias maybe?
[10:18:19]<EugenMayer>pkej: cant you paste me the configuration of the feed?
[10:18:25]<omega8cc>hmm
[10:18:31]<pkej>it is the default
[10:18:34]<pkej>a sec I'll paste it
[10:18:47]<omega8cc>Aurorus: so how you did that re-verify?
[10:18:52]<EugenMayer>it very much looks like you use the old "classic" domdocument fetching method - which will simply explode parsing 9500 projects pkej
[10:18:53]<omega8cc>command line?
[10:18:55]<pkej>I'll just check the filesysttem for what version of the modules I'm using
[10:19:20]<Aurorus>omega8cc: No, through Aegir Web running on long.domain.name.com
[10:20:31]<Aurorus>I have a local hosts file pointing long.domain.name.com to the right IP address
[10:20:40]<Aurorus>otherwise it asks me to install a new hostmaster / drupal install
[10:21:01]<omega8cc>Aurorus: so add the domain alias there
[10:21:27]<omega8cc>it is better than trying to rename (and safe)
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[10:22:47]<Aurorus>omega8cc: This needs to be a public-facing site for more than one login, also the local hosts is not important, since alias.domain.com is a public DNS record that resolves correctly
[10:22:47]<pkej>ah, I see what happened
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[10:23:01]<Aurorus>It still asks me for an installation
[10:23:23]<pkej>EugenMayer: when I saw the notice about github, I let the old version live in a directory called update_feed_api-old, which is the one drupal ended up using
[10:23:32]<pkej>EugenMayer: I forgot to delete it :(
[10:23:35]<Aurorus>What I'm seeing is that Aegir / Apache is not recognising alias.domain.com as a valid alias, even though it's resolving to the correct IP
[10:23:45]<pkej>EugenMayer: tnx for the help
[10:23:46]<EugenMayer>pkej: shame on you, small kitten killer!
[10:23:57]<omega8cc>Aurorus: have you added it in Aegir?
[10:23:58]<EugenMayer>:)
[10:24:21]<Aurorus>omega8cc: Aegir has two servers listed: localhost and alias.domain.com
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[10:24:37]<omega8cc>Aurorus: wait..
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[10:25:02]<omega8cc>Aurorus: goto the hostmaster site (not server) node
[10:25:06]<omega8cc>and edit it
[10:25:12]<omega8cc>to add the domain alias
[10:26:15]<Aurorus>yep, just running a verify now
[10:26:28]<Aurorus>also, omega8cc - can I change the name of the hostmaster site node?
[10:27:10]<EugenMayer>pkej: be sure to uninstall using the old module
[10:27:24]<EugenMayer>before installing using the new, or you end up having a mess
[10:27:43]<pkej>EugenMayer: yes, doing uninstallatin now
[10:27:52]<EugenMayer>AFAIR i did not work cleanly with update hooks in the very early releases, i was to lazy as nobody except me uses the project AFAIK
[10:28:02]<Aurorus>omega8cc: You are a genius! Thank you very much! :) That has worked perfectly!
[10:28:03]<pkej>EugenMayer: I think I have to delete the whole site in aegir, just to be sure
[10:28:09]<pkej>EugenMayer: it is just a sandbox
[10:28:16]<omega8cc>Aurorus: no, unless you want to explode everything there ;) this is why I recommend an *alias*
[10:28:19]<pkej>EugenMayer: your moudle seems very intriguing
[10:29:03]<EugenMayer>pkej: glad you like it
[10:29:07]<omega8cc>Aurorus: nice
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[10:31:21]<omega8cc>lol, by mortendk: "were off to a got start at the ægir workshop no screen no nothing and dave is telling warstories ;)"
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[10:32:26]<pkej>Anyone running wordpress and aegir on the same system?
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[10:34:40]<pkej>EugenMayer: Wow, that was fast
[10:35:01]<pkej>EugenMayer: Initalize, and then 1600 projects not recorded, probably no release
[10:35:06]<pkej>EugenMayer: a blink of an eye
[10:36:38]<pkej>EugenMayer: One UI improvement; perhaps decide per make file which API to use, so that the drop down will default to that on each new line? Now when I add new lines, the api defaults to 7.x instead of 6.x.
[10:36:53]<pkej>EugenMayer: Does it make sense to mix APIs anyway?
[10:37:12]<EugenMayer>pkej: patches welcome :)
[10:37:35]<EugenMayer>pkej: i optimized it pretty well
[10:37:46]<EugenMayer>the releases are fetched lazy on demand
[10:37:49]<pkej>EugenMayer: :) I'm not that fond of programming anymore, that's why I changed to become a graphics artist and TV news producer
[10:41:11]<pkej>EugenMayer: But wow, this seems pretty cool. Except Generate and download makefile doesn't seem to work yet. Anyway, I'll check the issue queue, and I'll see tomorrow if there is anything I'm able to fix
[10:42:00]<EugenMayer>they should work, dont forget to cc so the theming methods are available
[10:42:25]<pkej>EugenMayer: cc? I will have to reread he install instructions, I must obviously have forgotten something....
[10:42:43]<EugenMayer>cache clear
[10:43:18]<Aurorus>omega8cc: I'm going to attempt brain surgery and reconstruct the long.domain.name to alias.domain.com
[10:43:24]<Aurorus>Wish me luck! :D
[10:43:42]* omega8cc running!
[10:43:51]<omega8cc>;)
[10:43:56]<pkej>EugenMayer: Doesn't seem to work, even after drush cc all
[10:44:27]<Aurorus>omega8cc: The reason being that in .drush/server_master....php there are http and other paths that don't exist
[10:44:29]<pkej>EugenMayer: I'll just reinstall, and follow the instructions religiously
[10:44:37]<pkej>EugenMayer: tnx for your time, and for the module!
[10:44:46]<EugenMayer>pkej: well your most prob the first trying the project seriuosly
[10:45:18]<EugenMayer>so there could be things faulty in the docs / install process. So dont hassitate using the issue queue
[10:45:44]<omega8cc>Aurorus: you are brave, so maybe backup it all first
[10:45:52]<pkej>EugenMayer: I will, but first I have to rule out IUI (insufficient user intelligence)
[10:45:57]<Aurorus>definately omega8cc :D
[10:46:26]<EugenMayer>it is working for me without issues, but iam using a upgrade module for drush_make_ui which adds new features. I might install the original modules once .. having aegir :) and hava a look if i find something fishy there
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[10:47:43]<pkej>EugenMayer: The good thing with aegir is that it makes testing it out inexpensive; it takes away the trudgery of resetting db, installing and everything :)
[10:48:05]<EugenMayer>pkej: well combining that with drush_make_ui
[10:48:28]<EugenMayer>its even better as you "klick your system" and then simply use this make file in the platform directly
[10:48:46]<pkej>EugenMayer: Might it be that I'm using the pressflow as base? I'll try with a drupal 6.20 platform instead
[10:48:54]<EugenMayer>as drush make support URI for the make file, you just copy the link from that "generate make file" and past it in the platform - your done
[10:49:10]<EugenMayer>pkej: never tried pressflow with it
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[10:50:07]<pkej>EugenMayer: I try to keep on pressflow, the speed increase is incredible on some systems
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