IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-03-10 (GMT)

2011-03-09
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[11:02:06]<anarcat>mig5: sam says it's in his queue
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[11:05:12]<omega8cc>mig5: I think it worked before - re: your commits attributed, at least I think it was fixed and now is back broken
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[12:20:00]<milk>is there no way to batch disable/delete platforms? i'm piling them up when creating a new one for each change i make to a .make.
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[12:51:19]<CashWilliams>anyone on??
[12:51:53]<CashWilliams>ping *?
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[13:20:53]<jpstrikesback>so password policies and aegir….how would one either force a password on verify (of a site) or augment the pw generation? any quick pointers, a hook?
[13:21:18]<jpstrikesback>I ask cause open publish has hit and it breaks on a password policy issue
[13:21:25]<jpstrikesback>*open public
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[13:24:46]<jpstrikesback>(breaks aegir site verify…in beta2)
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[13:32:23]<AntiNSA>cant download little helpers/
[13:32:32]<AntiNSA>gitorious is down again or what?
[13:33:08]<AntiNSA>anyone know how long its been down?
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[13:56:13]<sfyn_>Hey team, how's it going^
[13:56:35]<sfyn_>Can anyone give me the 411 on how aegir plays with rewrite rules in platform .htaccess files?
[13:56:58]<mig5>plays with in what sense?
[13:57:16]<mig5>in aegir, the platform's .htaccess is directly read in as-is
[13:57:29]<sfyn_>I would like to do a rewrite to patch an access issue on my site and I wasn't sure aegir would allow it
[13:57:42]<sfyn_>But what you just told me is really all I needed to know
[13:57:46]<mig5>if you modify the .htaccess, it will respect it. oyu have a number of options on how to implement it though
[13:57:49]<mig5>yep
[13:57:58]<mig5>the other way is writing a .drush.inc that hooks into the api and injects it into the site vhost
[13:58:02]<mig5>probably more work that way :)
[13:58:15]<sfyn_>yep
[13:58:19]<sfyn_>but neato
[13:58:50]<sfyn_>mig5 So I heard you are maybe going to work with my buddy Shane once he gets to australia?
[13:59:44]<mig5>possibly!
[13:59:54]<mig5>he will be quite far away from me, but i hope to catch up with him
[14:00:03]<mig5>it's awkward as i will be flying to france around the time he arrives
[14:00:06]<mig5>but maybe further down the track
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[14:02:33]<sfyn_>If everything works out for him he will be down there for quite some time.
[14:03:49]<mig5>great
[14:04:07]<mig5>is he fron montreal originally?
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[14:08:56]<sfyn_>No - he's a calgary kid
[14:09:02]<mig5>ah
[14:09:21]<mig5>i was gonna say, Shane doesn't sound very Quebecois :)
[14:11:35]<sfyn_>True
[14:12:51]<sfyn_>Oh man, I'm gonna have to go to bed
[14:12:59]<sfyn_>Are you in Chicago right now?
[14:16:35]<mig5>nah
[14:43:43]<HaloFX>Anyone using Aegir remotely on a Cent/RHEL server?
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[14:49:32]<HaloFX>Aegir keeps wanting to change the group of settings.php to www-data, which doesn't exist on RHEL.
[14:50:14]<HaloFX>When I manually change it back to apache, all is good. But Aegir keeps changing it back.
[14:51:39]<HaloFX>I tried creating a www-data group and adding the aegir user to it, but that didn't help. Maybe because the Gid was above the 100 linit for system groups? not an area I am familiar with.
[14:54:49]<mig5>known bug http://drupal.org/node/984282
[14:54:51]<mig5>no fix yet
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[15:01:21]<HaloFX>mig5: Thanks, one more reason to dump this RHEL VPS.
[15:02:35]<mig5>you needed a reason? :)
[15:03:27]<mig5>it's RHEL! :)
[15:05:24]<HaloFX>Makes me miss the old FreeBSD servers we used to use at times.
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[17:44:43]<EugenMayer>moin
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[21:31:03]<pkej>is there a list of features that are planned in the future for aegir? (http://community.aegirproject.org/ seems to be down atm)
[21:31:10]<pkej>!features
[21:31:25]<pkej>!help
[21:32:25]<pkej>I read in a thread that Aegir is supposed to do a lot of what cPanel is able to do, and I wonder what kind of work there is on modules, and perhaps how to get involved.
[21:33:45]<mig5>anarcat: ping
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[21:44:05]<XEugenMayer>pkej: i think aegir is not going to be a cpanel
[21:44:14]<XEugenMayer>cpanel is application independent
[21:44:42]<XEugenMayer>aegir is completly drupal-dependened and if it will not get completely rewritten, it stays like that even with 2.0
[21:45:37]<XEugenMayer>so if you plan to deploy anything else as drupal aegir might not be the best choice. The other way arround, aegir is deeply integrated into drupal and know drupal "pretty well". So it can do a lot of drupal-specific / internal thing, e.g. on verify, what cpanel cant do
[21:45:47]<pkej>XEugenMayer: I was thinking of this comment: http://drupal.org/node/587554#comment-2082108
[21:45:48]<XEugenMayer>beside cpanel is nothing near to "deploy"
[21:46:20]<pkej>XEugenMayer: perhaps I'm thinking more like webmin
[21:46:41]<XEugenMayer>i see
[21:46:51]<XEugenMayer>well in that case, it should be fairly easy to get this working
[21:47:06]<pkej>some kind of integration of users with linux users, perhaps controlling a ftp server on the same box
[21:47:06]<pkej>ah wait
[21:47:06]<pkej>there is t he webdav module, it might be a fit for me...
[21:47:09]<XEugenMayer>aegir takes its own namespace and has its own conf files, not touching apache defaults
[21:47:20]<XEugenMayer>pkej: i hope aegir will never go this route
[21:47:53]<XEugenMayer>There is no reason to dublicate things that Plesk or others do pretty well. And there is a _ass full_ of work
[21:48:07]<pkej>XEugenMayer: true
[21:48:26]<XEugenMayer>to get those things done right. This is not at all something aegir can cover. We would need much more devs ..
[21:48:33]<pkej>XEugenMayer: but when you have a hammer, things tend to look like nails ;)
[21:48:41]<XEugenMayer>Hehe
[21:48:48]<XEugenMayer>qoute saved!
[21:48:57]<XEugenMayer>That one is wonderful!
[21:50:09]<pkej>I'll see if I should install webmin, or if there is something more modern which is open source as well, I am about to integrate wordpress, just haven't gotten quite the grip of where the boundrary between Apache and Aegir is, I've been reading the different config files
[21:50:13]<pkej>tnx
[21:50:30]<XEugenMayer>ispconfig
[21:50:37]<XEugenMayer>i used it back then when i did some hosting
[21:50:47]<XEugenMayer>but dont take me as an reference :)
[21:52:43]<pkej>well, I don't need ispconfig, I'll use Aegir for the websites; I'm more interested in adding drupal users to the linux system, especially for ftp server control
[21:52:55]<pkej>perhaps ldap is the way to go
[21:53:55]<pkej>I should have used virtualbox so I could create different servers to test out ideas on (doh!)
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[22:06:16]<XEugenMayer>mig5: do you have a second?
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[22:49:17]<alfthecat>Howdy all! On this rainy day, I keep getting an error when deploying new sites on my fresh RC1 instance. Apache service is not being restarted. When I do this manually I get this error:[warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[22:49:17]<alfthecat> ... waiting [Thu Mar 10 12:46:47 2011] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[22:50:05]<alfthecat>anyone have a clue? been troubleshooting for a few hours yesterday but can t figure it out yet
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[23:05:41]<mariooo>I believe my aegir has the wrong root password, as i'm getting the following error even though root has % host
[23:05:44]<mariooo>SQLSTATE[28000] [1045] Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
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[23:05:51]<mariooo>anyone know where aegir stores the root sql password?
[23:06:02]<mariooo>(this error is occuring when attempting to delete a site)
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[23:38:44]<AntiNSA>ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[23:39:09]<AntiNSA>my server is down and I need to get it back up on newest head... anyone know any good place to start?
[23:39:53]<AntiNSA>using octopus / barracuda and everything was great...
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[23:40:25]<AntiNSA>now I cant get into octobpus or barracuda control and restarted nginx server and nothing still
[23:41:28]<mrbaileys>anarcat: ping - pm?
[23:42:37]<AntiNSA> ERROR: The partition with /var/lib/mysql is too full! ... failed!
[23:42:40]<AntiNSA>hmmm
[23:49:42]<AntiNSA>reall strange ass my database was like only 122 meg uncompressed?
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[23:55:26]<AntiNSA>wow that was embarrasing.
[23:56:53]<AntiNSA>wow how much server space does aegir octopus/barracuda take up?
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[23:58:34]<XEugenMayer>AntiNSA: yeah...welcome to production use hell.
[23:58:53]<AntiNSA>I have around 48+ GB server space at linnode, and my site back up was 122meg uncompressed mysql dump and and 260 mb uncompressed files
[23:59:10]<XEugenMayer>all those funny "backups", all those funny "rsyncs" and files held on the master, all copies of platforms, all database.sql dumps untared on the maste
[23:59:21]<AntiNSA>yet I see my server is using 17gb?
[00:00:00]<AntiNSA>is it really like 15gb big?
[00:00:49]<XEugenMayer>i really better keep this uncommented.
[00:01:01]<AntiNSA>I only selected like 3 platformsdrupal 7/6 and pantheon platform I imported
[00:01:46]<AntiNSA>no webmin myswl buddy, grahs or anything else. If you dont select to install them do they still sit on your server?
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[00:07:14]<AntiNSA>sudo apt-get clean
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[00:16:27]<AntiNSA>anyone know the best way to make drupal_queue_cron.php work with aegir/octopus?
[00:20:13]<XEugenMayer>anarcat: arround for a small debconf question?
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[00:35:06]<anarcat>mig5: pong
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[01:13:05]<alfthecat>I keep getting an error when deploying new sites on my fresh RC1 instance. Apache service is not being restarted. When I do this manually I get this error:[warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[01:13:06]<alfthecat>(12:49:16 PM) AlfTheCat: ... waiting [Thu Mar 10 12:46:47 2011] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[01:13:06]<alfthecat>(12:50:05 PM) AlfTheCat: anyone have a clue? been troubleshooting for a few hours yesterday but can t figure it out yet
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[01:14:58]<Deezire>alfthecat: that does not affect apache, something else is keeping it from being restarted.
[01:15:25]<Deezire>Everything with [warn] infront is more or less information only.
[01:16:34]<alfthecat>ok, aegir tells me of a syntax error in sudoers, but I only added the lines advised in install.txt, and yesterday I removed those and tried different things but it kept going wrong
[01:16:41]<adrinux>alfthecat: some ideas: you didn't add the aegir user to the sudoers list
[01:16:47]<adrinux>ah, well there you go
[01:17:45]<alfthecat>I have this in my sudoers file: aegir ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/apache2ctl
[01:17:45]<alfthecat>aegir ALL=NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/nginx
[01:21:51]<alfthecat>If i do this:
[01:21:51]<alfthecat>ln -s /var/aegir/config/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/aegir.conf
[01:21:51]<alfthecat>and this:
[01:21:51]<alfthecat>ln -s /var/aegir/config/nginx.conf /etc/nginx/conf.d/aegir.conf
[01:21:51]<alfthecat>I get the mesage the file already exists (in creating symbolic link)
[01:25:14]<alfthecat>I also tried changing apache.conf from port 80 to 79, to see if 80 was blocked or something but that didn´t help either. So I can´t see why this is happening
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[02:04:36]<V1ntage_work>What's BOA?
[02:04:53]<V1ntage_work>now there's BARRACUDA, OCTOPUS and BOND
[02:05:28]<V1ntage_work>wait, BOND is a tuner, so what's BOA then?
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[02:08:54]<ergonlogic>mig5: ping
[02:13:29]<ergonlogic>oh... 2:00am in Melbourne... nevermind :)
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[02:34:55]<omega8cc>V1ntage_work: Barracuda + Octopus + Aegir is BOA ;)
[02:35:10]<V1ntage_work>omega8cc: ahh, of course :) haha
[02:35:13]<V1ntage_work>omega8cc: thanks
[02:35:22]<omega8cc>btw, watching http://chicago2011.drupal.org/live
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[02:48:03]<V1ntage_work>omega8cc: ow :) didn't know that's now
[02:48:14]<V1ntage_work>omega8cc: sweet :D
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[03:51:20]<hefring>community => Create platforms from command line? => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/465
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[04:10:32]<alfthecat>Iḿ getting an error when deploying sites in RC1. Syntax error around line.... apache could not be restarted, pointing to my sudoers file. If I restart manually, I get a warning saying that port 80 has no virtual hosts. I´ve been troubleshooting this for hours, my sudoers looks fine and whatever I do to it, the error persists. Any thoughts?
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[04:13:52]<adrinux>that's the same question you asked 3 hrs ago!
[04:14:19]<adrinux>the warning is irrelevant alfthecat
[04:14:24]<alfthecat>yeah, I know, hoping somebody knows. I´ve been working this since yesterday
[04:14:58]<alfthecat>I´ve also asked my hosting, doesn´t have an answer either. so my quest continues :)
[04:15:20]<adrinux>you are using apache?
[04:15:39]<alfthecat>yeah, but I also needed to install nginx during Aegir setup.
[04:15:51]<alfthecat>so I don´t know if the latter is causing this
[04:16:02]<adrinux>is apache running?
[04:16:17]<adrinux>maybe that doesn't matter
[04:16:24]<alfthecat>Yeah I think so, can I check that?
[04:16:57]<adrinux>can you pastebin your sudoers file?
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[04:17:10]<alfthecat>how do you mean pastebin?
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[04:17:19]<alfthecat>oh paste in I guess, sorry
[04:17:30]<alfthecat># /etc/sudoers
[04:17:30]<alfthecat>#
[04:17:30]<alfthecat># This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
[04:17:30]<alfthecat>#
[04:17:30]<alfthecat># See the man page for details on how to write a sudoers file.
[04:17:31]<alfthecat>#
[04:17:31]<alfthecat>Defaults env_reset
[04:17:32]<alfthecat># Host alias specification
[04:17:32]<alfthecat># User alias specification
[04:17:33]<alfthecat># Cmnd alias specification
[04:17:33]<alfthecat># User privilege specification
[04:17:34]<alfthecat>root ALL=(ALL) ALL
[04:17:34]<alfthecat># Uncomment to allow members of group sudo to not need a password
[04:17:35]<alfthecat># (Note that later entries override this, so you might need to move
[04:19:23]<alfthecat>my message got throttled due to flooding, did you see it?
[04:21:39]<adrinux>alfthecat: http://pastebin.com/
[04:22:02]<adrinux>not all of it no
[04:23:34]<alfthecat>ok im registering at pastebin
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[04:25:23]<alfthecat>http://pastebin.com/MdBR7ZEm
[04:25:36]<alfthecat>and thanks for the pastebin site, cool tool!
[04:26:24]<alfthecat>this is what is in the aegir log:apache on .... could not be restarted. Changes might not be available until this has been done. (error: >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 24 <<< sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 24)
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[04:30:35]<adrinux>near line 24, what does that mean? line 23.7 ? :)
[04:30:53]<alfthecat>yeah that came to my mind too lol
[04:31:09]<adrinux>alfthecat: it's not something simple like needing a new line after nginx is it?
[04:31:29]<alfthecat>I´ll check that right away
[04:32:16]<adrinux>and you are using visudo to edit it right?
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[04:33:26]<alfthecat>I´m not familiar with visudo. How do I use that to edit it? Because I´m rudely downloading the file and editing it in notepad, before uploading it again with an ftp client
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[04:33:40]<adrinux>oh my
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[04:33:58]<alfthecat>yeah I buying a book on linux this weekend, and I shall repent
[04:34:01]<adrinux>ssh to the server for a start
[04:34:35]<alfthecat>I´m using putty for a terminal
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[04:35:24]<adrinux>sudo -s
[04:35:27]<adrinux>visudo
[04:35:36]<adrinux>should get you there
[04:36:03]<alfthecat>ok Iḿ there and Iḿ looking at the file
[04:36:24]<alfthecat>looks the same as my notepad, can´t see if there is now an extra line though
[04:36:57]<alfthecat>oh year there is now
[04:37:18]<alfthecat>lol the error is gone
[04:37:30]<alfthecat>so thatś what ´around line 24´ means
[04:37:37]<alfthecat>brilliant I would have never thought of that!
[04:38:04]<adrinux>well, notepad may have added windows line endings
[04:38:41]<adrinux>but just like it says in the sudoers file: "This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root"
[04:38:54]<alfthecat>site is happily deployed! Yeah, I´m in need of a crash course in Linux and learn my many sins I´ve undoubtebly commited
[04:39:36]<alfthecat>But it does goes to show how well the install.txt is written, because even someone like me who has no clue about what he is doing, can still get Aegir up and running
[04:40:06]<alfthecat>thanks so much adrinux
[04:40:14]<adrinux>you're welcome
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[05:43:32]<omega8cc>szczym: wow, that is super nice! thanks / dziekuje!
[05:44:11]<szczym>"all the pleasure is on our side" !!!
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[06:29:14]<sdudenhofer>how strong is the ssl generated within aegir? 1024 or 2048 is there a location that I can test/verify
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[06:32:48]<sdudenhofer>or should I be copying my generated key from my SSL provider into the files that aegir creates? I've followed the steps in http://community.aegirproject.org/node/29 and when I give the csr to the provider it says unsupported key size
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[06:55:31]<hefring>community => You are right => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/466
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[09:32:21]<welly>Hi aegir fans. I've just installed aegir with the install-aegir-on-ubuntu.sh script, which works fine. It's all installed and set up but looking at the list of servers, I've got two servers listed "aegir" and "localhost" (my server uses aegir.localhost as it's hostname)
[09:32:39]<welly>is there any reason for this? shouldn't the server be listed as aegir.localhost?
[09:33:46]<welly>Or is this due to my /etc/hosts having 127.0.0.1 localhost and 127.0.1.1 aegir.localhost aegir entries?
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[09:38:35]<mig5>that's normal welly, it means that the aegir site itself is using mysql via localhost and not via its other IP
[09:39:05]<mig5>so it detected 'localhost' as a server and attached the mysql service to it
[09:39:10]<welly>ok gotcha. I'm just installing aegir on a virtual machine to get my head round how it works before I do anything
[09:39:12]<welly>ahh right
[09:39:30]<mig5>normally no problem unless you intend on using multiserver later on, in which case you'll need a separate server node for database that uses an IP, so that remote web servers could connect to it
[09:40:06]<welly>ok.. i'm with you. i assume the remote web servers need to be able to access the aegir server for whatever reason?
[09:40:23]<mig5>sort of, it's more the other way around, but yeah
[09:40:26]<welly>ok
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[09:41:08]<welly>is it reasonable to run aegir on the same server as the sites I'm going to be hosting? or is it preferable to use a seperate server? or does it make no difference?
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[09:44:40]<mig5>i think that's quite reasonable, and my production system is like that. aegir does support having multiple servers, and it works, but it's a young feature and there are wrinkles to iron out still
[09:44:56]<mig5>probably best to start with the basics and use one server
[09:45:12]<welly>yeah, i suspect so. :) thanks for the tips. I'm going to go have a good read of the docs
[09:45:15]<mig5>you can scale out / migrate sites to remote servers later on
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[10:12:50]<Aurorus>hmmm....am having issues with CiviCRM and Aegir, but they should play together very nicely, no?
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[10:57:30]<welly>Hi chaps, when aegir tries to verify a server, I
[10:57:42]<welly>'m getting the following error: PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function quote() on a non-object in /var/aegir/.drush/provision/db/db.drush.inc on line 326
[10:57:54]<welly>is anyone aware of this? I wonder if it's because my server is running php 5.3?
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