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| [11:02:36] | <JellyJim> | Hi guys... Is anybody able to answer a couple of questions for a n00b? |
| [11:04:52] | <eft> | if it's really basic I may be able to help |
| [11:07:16] | <JellyJim> | Hmmm... Well, I think I've already managed to answer my first question, so it's just one now. I run CentOS 5.5 and would like to install Aegir. I can't find a definitive set of documentation for it, but I did find this -http://groups.drupal.org/node/67328 - I'm just wondering if it's still useful, given the date on it? |
| [11:08:11] | <eft> | I know that more folks use Debian/Ubuntu and I have seen people have issues with CentOS |
| [11:09:10] | <eft> | Have you checked the hints file that supplements the more generic installation instructions? |
| [11:09:12] | <eft> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/418 |
| [11:09:32] | <eft> | this is OS-specific |
| [11:09:54] | <JellyJim> | I couldn't find that - it's probably the document I'm looking for! Thanks :) |
| [11:11:13] | <eft> | Good luck :) |
| [11:11:22] | <JellyJim> | Thanks for your help! |
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| [11:23:08] | <hefring> | community => CentOS installation - help needed with the install instructions! => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/477 |
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| [11:42:50] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell mig5: this is what Eugen wants :) http://drupal.org/node/1080758 "I would suggest making drush a dep on the remote, and using it the drush_exec way on the remote" - yeah.. |
| [11:42:50] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when mig5 is around. |
| [11:46:53] | <mig5> | . |
| [11:46:53] | <hefring> | mig5: 4 min 3 sec ago <omega8cc> tell mig5: this is what Eugen wants :) http://drupal.org/node/1080758 "I would suggest making drush a dep on the remote, and using it the drush_exec way on the remote" - yeah.. |
| [11:46:58] | <mig5> | it's not actually a bad idea |
| [11:47:04] | <mig5> | it was the original design |
| [11:47:10] | <mig5> | and we went spoke model instead as it was simpler |
| [11:47:27] | <mig5> | we may go back to that... or rather: that may become a side-effect of eliminating the spoke model at a later date |
| [11:48:01] | <mig5> | the difficulty is that each remote node, running drush, would need to be aware of each other server's drush @alias |
| [11:48:28] | <mig5> | and also, the issue of where to store backups so that they are exposed to all machines (do we depend on a file store of some sort), etc. |
| [11:49:01] | <omega8cc> | mig5: I know it was original design, but it is not enough to submit a few patches to introduce so big change |
| [11:49:24] | <mig5> | yep |
| [11:49:36] | <mig5> | i think he means well but he's very short sighted, and impatient |
| [11:49:37] | <omega8cc> | it could be *big* change, with introduced some new levels of complexity |
| [11:49:51] | <omega8cc> | yeah |
| [11:49:55] | <mig5> | it's german efficiency :) |
| [11:50:19] | <omega8cc> | oh, we know something about it in Poland.. |
| [11:50:52] | <omega8cc> | anyway, the question is |
| [11:51:40] | <omega8cc> | what are we trying to fix? and if the fix will really fix original issue or rather multiply complexity? |
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| [11:53:30] | <mig5> | the 'mesh' model undoubtably makes things exponentially more complex, and that's why it was avoided |
| [11:53:37] | <mig5> | nonetheless, the spoke model is slow and far from perfect |
| [11:53:54] | <omega8cc> | yeah, that is also true |
| [11:53:56] | <mig5> | so it's a question of whether we really do sit down and just fix it properly with something like the mesh model, and maybe it will be better in the end |
| [11:54:44] | <mig5> | then there are other issues that affect both models but are individual themselves: e.g, where you have 2GB of files uploads and so many tasks take a backup that involves tarballing all this |
| [11:54:49] | <mig5> | which can be slow, and uses more disk space |
| [11:54:59] | <mig5> | so, a lot to re-think |
| [11:55:32] | <omega8cc> | anarcat mentioned he is working on this particular issue |
| [11:55:37] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [11:58:00] | <omega8cc> | my idea was to move files dir away and symlink it and rename/edit symlinks only on every local rename/migrate, while cp on clone and rsync on clone to remote, and tar gz only on backup task |
| [11:59:12] | <mig5> | we could - but we'll also have to think about provision-deploy, which traditionally unpacks a tarball, and how that affects importing a site |
| [11:59:17] | <mig5> | maybe it won't affect it |
| [11:59:26] | <mig5> | but we'll need a list of things to think about |
| [12:01:15] | <omega8cc> | it will introduce some code duplication maybe, but we really need to split it to avoid archiving all files on every related task |
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| [13:01:35] | <smthomas> | anyone have any idea why verifying the hostmaster would fail (I can verify any other site) |
| [13:02:24] | <smthomas> | I was just trying to do one last verify before upgrading to rc1 but I can't get it to succeed |
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| [14:07:09] | <mig5> | anarcat: ping |
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| [14:56:57] | <anarcat> | mig5: pong |
| [14:57:19] | <anarcat> | mig5: saturday night fever eh? |
| [14:57:24] | * anarcat back in montreal |
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| [15:50:03] | <mig5> | hey anarcat |
| [15:50:25] | <anarcat> | hey mig5 |
| [15:50:26] | <mig5> | so yeah i am lost on a few things re: git |
| [15:50:47] | <mig5> | i don't know if i'm meant to make the install.sh / aegir.make changes in the 6.x-1.x branch or in master and merge back in |
| [15:50:50] | <mig5> | and then tag |
| [15:50:52] | <mig5> | and then whether we can delete that old tag or not |
| [15:51:09] | <anarcat> | you can delete the old tag |
| [15:51:16] | <anarcat> | git tag -d 6.x-1.0-rc2 |
| [15:51:22] | <anarcat> | git push origin :6.x-1.0-rc2 |
| [15:51:23] | <mig5> | ok |
| [15:51:31] | <anarcat> | now |
| [15:51:37] | <anarcat> | make changes directly on the 6.x branch |
| [15:51:50] | <mig5> | ok |
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| [15:54:06] | <mig5> | cleaning up some docs too right now |
| [15:54:12] | <anarcat> | cool |
| [15:54:16] | <anarcat> | i really screwed up the release :) |
| [15:55:18] | <mig5> | nah |
| [15:55:27] | <mig5> | it's teething problems back on drupal.org |
| [15:56:03] | <mig5> | anarcat: one more thing |
| [15:56:11] | <mig5> | per the docs here: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/397 |
| [15:56:15] | <mig5> | where we have a full URL to install.sh.txt |
| [15:56:35] | <mig5> | i wondered if it would save any time to have a Redirect at http://aegirproject.org |
| [15:56:43] | <mig5> | so http://aegirproject.org/install.sh.txt would always redirect to the latest script |
| [15:56:47] | <mig5> | and then the docs don't have to change |
| [15:56:52] | <anarcat> | yeah - that |
| [15:56:53] | <anarcat> | well |
| [15:56:54] | <mig5> | but i'm not sure, either way, someone has to make that change on release |
| [15:56:58] | <anarcat> | then we'd have to change aegirproject.org :P |
| [15:57:04] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [15:57:05] | <mig5> | nevermind |
| [15:57:06] | <anarcat> | and only i can do that right now |
| [15:57:09] | <mig5> | plus i wouldn't be able to do it |
| [15:57:10] | <mig5> | snap |
| [15:57:12] | <mig5> | ! |
| [15:57:14] | <anarcat> | if it's only changing a wiki page, it's actually simpler |
| [15:57:19] | <mig5> | yep, ignore me |
| [15:57:21] | <mig5> | makes sense |
| [15:57:39] | <anarcat> | and yeah, i agree we should rely on d.o recommended stuff |
| [15:57:44] | <anarcat> | this needs more testing |
| [15:57:57] | <anarcat> | which is why this is rc2 :P |
| [15:58:10] | <anarcat> | i'm thinking of looking at this again tomorrow or monday |
| [15:58:15] | <anarcat> | but feel free to push the last mile ahead |
| [15:58:24] | <anarcat> | and don't worry about screw ups, we can always rc3 |
| [15:58:28] | <anarcat> | i gotta go |
| [15:58:29] | <mig5> | yep |
| [15:58:31] | <mig5> | no worries |
| [15:58:32] | <mig5> | thanks |
| [15:58:50] | <anarcat> | take care, and hopefully don't get some of that tsunami in your backyard |
| [15:59:05] | <mig5> | hehe |
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| [16:04:29] | <mig5> | great, an install fetching rc2 hostmaster from aegir.make, and provision 6.x-1.x branch, works |
| [16:04:32] | <mig5> | i think i'll release |
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| [16:07:17] | <mig5> | alrighty |
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| [16:10:28] | <mig5> | yee hah! http://drupal.org/node/1090794 |
| [16:10:37] | <mig5> | a milestone event, aegir returns to drupal.org |
| [16:15:59] | * mig5 has changed the topic to Aegir hosting system 1.0-rc2 released! http://community.aegirproject.org/1.0-rc2 | Issue queue: http://is.gd/edalY | read this before asking: http://community.aegirproject.org/bugs | scrums on wednesday 2200UTC |
| [16:19:30] | <HaloFX> | Is there supposed to be link to the upgrade.txt and/or upgrade.sh.txt on http://community.aegirproject.org/upgrading? Or am I blind? or just ahead of the game? |
| [16:21:45] | <mig5> | there's sub-p[ages of that page that you want to read |
| [16:21:55] | <mig5> | on a related note, one page is showing an out-dated link, so don't read it yet :P |
| [16:22:00] | <mig5> | oh crap |
| [16:22:05] | <mig5> | that just made me realise something.. |
| [16:22:45] | <mig5> | rah, fuck |
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| [16:23:02] | <mig5> | rolled the release without updating the upgrade.sh.txt first |
| [16:25:13] | <mig5> | anyway, HaloFX http://community.aegirproject.org/node/429 |
| [16:28:23] | <mig5> | anarcat: don't suppose you're still lingering |
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| [16:40:00] | <HaloFX> | Is changing the rc1 version to rc2 on line #14 of the upgrade script all that is wrong? |
| [16:40:47] | <mig5> | yeah, it needs to become 6.x-1.0-rc2 |
| [16:40:53] | <mig5> | i have updated it in the 6.x-1.x branch now |
| [16:40:57] | <mig5> | and pointed the docs to that version of the script |
| [16:41:00] | <mig5> | and updated the release notes. |
| [16:41:10] | <mig5> | it's good idea to read the script and adjust as necessary anyway |
| [16:41:16] | <mig5> | i just prefer when it's perfect :) |
| [16:41:37] | <mig5> | see http://community.aegirproject.org/1.0-rc2 for the full release notes |
| [16:41:52] | <HaloFX> | understood |
| [16:43:13] | <mig5> | so the correct script to upgrade to 1.0-rc2 is http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/blob_plain/refs/heads/6.x-1.... |
| [16:43:43] | <mig5> | maybe we'll roll rc3 just to get this right, not sure whether to or not. |
| [16:44:36] | <AntiNSA> | congratulations .. |
| [16:44:41] | <AntiNSA> | but.. |
| [16:44:54] | <AntiNSA> | how far is rc2 behind current head? |
| [16:45:24] | <AntiNSA> | would you say there are 20% new features in head? New untested innovations? |
| [16:45:28] | <mig5> | uh |
| [16:45:41] | <mig5> | well no, they are probably the same right now |
| [16:45:53] | <AntiNSA> | is RC2 the safe family car for gradndma and head the ferrari? |
| [16:46:02] | <AntiNSA> | ok |
| [16:46:26] | <AntiNSA> | right now Im unig head from like 4 days ago and it is so much nicer than 1.5 months ago |
| [16:48:20] | <AntiNSA> | I will do a clean install from RC2 (maybe or the new head).. would like to lose the postfix part of the installation and justuse google docs for more speed. I have to tell you how much the head im using kicks ass. I have worked 26 hours and slept 5 for weeks and to wake up and see my server resources at 70% is awesome.....completely awesome. |
| [16:48:53] | <AntiNSA> | seing that when I awake. My wife woke me up to show me how great it was. |
| [16:48:56] | <AntiNSA> | thank you. |
| [17:10:26] | <hefring> | community => Aegir 1.0-rc2 is released! => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/480 |
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| [17:37:01] | <HaloFX> | upgrading to rc2 now... |
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| [17:45:06] | <smthomas> | I am getting ready to do the upgrade but am having some trouble getting my hostmaster site to verify successfully, all other sites verify fine, any ideas? |
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| [17:55:29] | <HaloFX> | All looks good! Good Work guys!! |
| [18:25:24] | <mig5> | smthomas: would need to see a full task output pastebin of the hostmaster verify task |
| [18:26:29] | <smthomas> | mig5: the errors are very generic, looks like the provision-save part is what caused the error, but the only error is "The command could not be executed successfully (returned: Killed , code: 137)" |
| [18:27:20] | <mig5> | ew |
| [18:27:34] | <mig5> | what version of Drush you running? |
| [18:28:17] | <smthomas> | 3.1 I believe... but I will double check |
| [18:29:47] | <mig5> | probably (hopefully) 3.3 |
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| [18:30:00] | <smthomas> | 3.3 |
| [18:30:04] | <smthomas> | you are correct |
| [18:30:05] | <mig5> | ok |
| [18:30:20] | <mig5> | so in the task log, there'll be the full 'provision-save' command |
| [18:30:28] | <mig5> | can you run that from the command line and replace --backend with --debug |
| [18:30:42] | <mig5> | we might get some more clues |
| [18:33:33] | <smthomas> | I ran the command from the command line and it is not showing any errors. I am running it again from the frontend aegir site just to be sure. |
| [18:34:12] | <smthomas> | here is the command line output -> http://dpaste.com/495584/ |
| [18:36:20] | <smthomas> | still getting the error when running from the UI, the provision-save command is still showing the error, but the provision-verify runs after it and seems to succeed just fine (although it still marks the task as failed) |
| [18:37:04] | <mig5> | hmm |
| [18:37:35] | <mig5> | so it's some info in the database or something sending bad data.. maybe |
| [18:37:38] | <mig5> | never seen this error before |
| [18:37:58] | <mig5> | any other background on this installation? have you made any changes to the database directly, or tried to edit the hostmaster platform in some way in the UI? |
| [18:41:01] | <smthomas> | mig5: only direct database changes were cleanups to some SSL certs that I deleted from the db table, I think I do remember something at the beginning when I first installed that created 2 servers one the hostmaster for apache, and a separate db server called localhost... I hadn't seen that before in any of my other Aegir installs, but I somehow figured out a way to get the database to show up on the hostmaster server... |
| [18:41:40] | <mig5> | that's normal |
| [18:41:43] | <mig5> | hmm. |
| [18:41:52] | <mig5> | so it sounds like it's undergone some 'modification' of some sort :) |
| [18:42:21] | <mig5> | the localhost vs FQDN server nodes are normal in more recent releases, can be overridden on initial install |
| [18:42:38] | <smthomas> | ok |
| [18:43:45] | <mig5> | i've no idea how to fix the issue :s |
| [18:45:28] | <smthomas> | well, I will keep trying and if all else fails I might try the upgrade and see if I can fix it after... I am just not sure why running from the command line succeeds but the UI task fails. |
| [18:45:43] | <smthomas> | Well I will report back if I figure it out... thanks for the help |
| [19:09:38] | <capitan> | woah... 1.0-rc2? |
| [19:13:53] | <mig5> | yep |
| [19:16:27] | <capitan> | :) |
| [19:19:22] | <smthomas> | so it looks like the upgrade went through just fine, still can't verify the hostmaster site from the UI, but I will carve out some time to look into it more later |
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| [23:52:17] | <hefring> | community => Aegir can't create Drupal Commons 1.4 platform. => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/481 |
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| [01:43:18] | <llwp> | migrated from an earlier version of aegir little while ago ... and love the upgrades, super job, thanks! experiencing a little issue tho.... some sites don't show all the same or all info (as newly created sites) on the individual site page. those same sites wont verify (any more), migrate or delete either. the first error in the web based log viewer is "SQLSTATE[28000] [1045] Access denied for user..." I've changed the password sin |
| [01:43:50] | <llwp> | is that possible? create new sites works fine... ok so I went to the server to verify. it fails there now too. |
| [01:44:11] | <llwp> | it does SQLSTATE error as well, but first is "Running: /var/aegir/drush/drush.php @server_localhost provision-verify --backend" followed by "The external command could not be executed due to an application error." |
| [01:44:49] | <llwp> | why would the server fail verification? |
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| [03:14:08] | <hefring> | community => Can Aegir help me do this? => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/483 |
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| [05:58:21] | <capitan> | does anyone know if it's safe to create a platform when there are broken symlinks inside of the sites/ directory in the platform? |
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| [05:58:36] | <capitan> | one way to find out, i guess.... |
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| [06:00:36] | <EclipseGc> | ok, guess it's time to attempt an rc2 upgrade |
| [06:01:16] | <capitan> | EclipseGc, good luck! :) |
| [06:01:23] | <EclipseGc> | capitan: thx |
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| [06:28:15] | <capitan> | damn... is php 5.3 still not supported? |
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| [06:28:32] | <capitan> | debian stable now comes with it :( |
| [06:30:06] | <alfthecat> | Hi everyone, does anyone know if there an issue with the permissions for viewing ´own task´ in RC1? The queue block in the sidebar shows no tasks if I disable the permission ´view task´ but it displays all tasks if I enable this permission and the permission ´view own tasks´. I´d like clients to just see their own tasks |
| [06:35:17] | <alfthecat> | woops don t know what I did but its working now |
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| [06:40:42] | <smthomas> | capitan: I have been using php 5.3 on my development servers... it seems to be working besides a few minor notices |
| [06:46:53] | <capitan> | smthomas, ok. thanks for the info. some of the error messages aegir was throwing at me, when thrown at google, ended with pages from almost a year ago about how it's not supported |
| [06:47:00] | <capitan> | i'll bark up another tree for now :) |
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| [07:59:37] | <anarcat> | mig5: ping |
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| [08:34:41] | <mig5> | doh |
| [08:34:47] | <mig5> | sorry anarcat |
| [08:35:49] | <mig5> | at least it still works regardless |
| [08:37:59] | <anarcat> | yeah, thanks to the git download |
| [08:38:12] | <anarcat> | i pinged ergonlogic so that he takes a look at this - he stated interest in looking at the profile stuff |
| [08:38:24] | <anarcat> | but this is clearly things that can be thought of now that we're on d.o and that it packages stuff for us |
| [08:40:17] | <mig5> | can it handle fetchig in the jquery.ui zip i wonder |
| [08:40:31] | <capitan> | my drush make files that pull installation profiles (i.e. openatrium) from cvs no longer work... is there a document anywhere to bring them back to life? |
| [08:40:31] | <mig5> | all that stuff about external downloads |
| [08:40:48] | <anarcat> | the error message is weird |
| [08:41:05] | <anarcat> | Unable to parse file [error] |
| [08:41:06] | <anarcat> | An error occurred at function : drush_drush_make_d_o_verify_makefile [error] |
| [08:41:10] | <anarcat> | there *is* no file |
| [08:41:31] | <mig5> | thats probably bad drush make error hamdling :) |
| [08:42:03] | <anarcat> | well |
| [08:42:09] | <anarcat> | i suspect the docs is not right |
| [08:42:25] | <mig5> | wonder if we can make an empty file. i really thought that file was optional |
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| [08:43:17] | <anarcat> | There are three kinds of downloadable packages that can be built for profiles: |
| [08:43:18] | <anarcat> | The profile itself, with no other code. |
| [08:43:18] | <anarcat> | The profile itself, with all modules and themes specified in the drupal-org.make file. The modules/themes are placed in '{profilename}/modules' and/or '{profilename}/themes'. |
| [08:43:21] | <anarcat> | Drupal core, with the fully built profile described in #2. The profile and all of its modules/themes are placed in the Drupal root under the 'profiles' directory. |
| [08:43:24] | <anarcat> | If the packaging system finds a drupal-org.make file, then all three packages are built. If not, then only the first package it built. |
| [08:43:31] | <anarcat> | that was also my understanding - i don't understand why this fails |
| [08:46:54] | <anarcat> | our issue looks like this http://drupal.org/node/751242 |
| [08:47:12] | <mig5> | xterm |
| [08:47:18] | <mig5> | gah |
| [08:47:41] | <mig5> | im on a phone in an ssh client :) |
| [08:47:59] | <mig5> | i'll have to come bAck later |
| [08:49:02] | <anarcat> | ok |
| [08:51:00] | <mig5> | yes that doea sound like the issue |
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| [09:08:05] | <obrienmd> | omega8cc: saw rc2 dropped, should new rc of BOA be tagged soon? probably going to do that rebuild tonight, wondering if I should wait. |
| [09:09:10] | <omega8cc> | obrienmd: it will be in the next 2 hours, still testing some new stuff for compatibility, but it is almost ready |
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| [09:11:08] | <omega8cc> | debugging advagg module |
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| [09:11:54] | <omega8cc> | the holy grail of css/js aggregation |
| [09:16:37] | <obrienmd> | I saw that module, very interesting |
| [09:16:52] | <obrienmd> | looking forward to the release! I'll let you know how the rebuild goes tomorrow |
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| [09:40:45] | <omega8cc> | the standard Varnish 503 error message is plain stupid: https://skitch.com/omega8cc/rwxct/dock |
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| [09:48:56] | <Aurorus> | omega8cc: How are you going today? |
| [09:51:14] | <omega8cc> | Aurorus: Sunday Barracuda |
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| [09:51:25] | <Aurorus> | sounds...nice :P |
| [09:51:36] | <Aurorus> | It's monday morning for me, omega8cc, plugging away at work :) |
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| [09:52:06] | <omega8cc> | ah, it is still 11:51 pm here |
| [09:52:34] | <Aurorus> | Got an interesting Aegir error, if I could pick your brains on. The "verify" task fails for a domain with command "/var/aegir/drush/drush.php @domain.com provision-verify --backend" However there are about 5 domains of which 4 verify successfully. |
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| [10:14:27] | * omega8cc killing spammers on c.a.o |
| [10:15:26] | <Aurorus> | c.a.o ? |
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| [10:22:35] | <omega8cc> | http://community.aegirproject.org |
| [10:22:58] | <omega8cc> | 20+ killed |
| [10:23:37] | <omega8cc> | we should introduce better account setup verification |
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| [10:29:56] | <Aurorus> | ahh, gotcha :) |
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| [10:53:40] | <Aurorus> | omega8cc: Trying to migrate a site and getting "array_keys(): The first argument should be an array deploy.provision.inc:84" |
| [10:53:59] | <Aurorus> | The googlewebs say that it's because of PHP 5.3, however I'm running PHP 5.2.4 :-/ |
| [10:54:04] | <Aurorus> | Any ideas? |
| [10:55:19] | <omega8cc> | Aurorus: no idea, search our queue, not google :) |
| [10:55:27] | <Aurorus> | "our queue" ? |
| [10:55:32] | <omega8cc> | yes |
| [10:55:37] | <Aurorus> | what's that? |
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| [10:56:28] | <omega8cc> | http://community.aegirproject.org/ and look for the big yellow search box |
| [10:56:44] | <Aurorus> | ok, great omega8cc cheers |
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