IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-03-14 (GMT)

2011-03-13
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[11:07:57]<SqyD>Quick question: is a web cluster NOT supposed to have a port setting?
[11:09:25]<SqyD>(working on #1047174 , reverse proxy support)
[11:11:16]<Deezire>reverse proxy support i would guess to be something like varnish or squid
[11:12:40]<SqyD>yes, varnish is the prime suspect ;-)
[11:14:56]<SqyD>my current approach is to extend the cluster type to a generic reverse proxy and then to extend that to have tight varnish support
[11:17:07]<SqyD>the generic proxy service just adds a port setting to the cluster type. I was expecting this setting on the cluster level.
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[11:58:15]<capitan>my provision-install is dying within provision-install-backend ... how do i get it to give more debug information within there?
[11:59:40]<capitan>Allowed memory size of 201326592 bytes exhausted ... that's a lot of memory to exhaust :(
[11:59:55]<Aurorus>200Mb-ish
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[12:00:31]<capitan>yup
[12:00:39]<SqyD>copy/paste the drush command from the frontend, remove --backend and add --debug
[12:02:23]<capitan>i do that... but then it calls /var/aegir/drush/drush.php @site provision-install-backend --backend and dies in there
[12:03:43]<SqyD>remove --backend and add --debug again
[12:04:48]<capitan>that's the thing... i can't do that
[12:05:00]<capitan>the original drush command is calling that...
[12:06:01]<SqyD>so if you exec: /var/aegir/drush/drush.php  @site provision-install-backend --debug
[12:07:35]<capitan>i tried that before... since it rolled back the stuff up to that point it failed
[12:08:17]<SqyD>do you have the option to throw more ram to it?
[12:08:47]<capitan>i just bumped the memory limit to 256M and tried again
[12:08:53]<capitan>hmm
[12:08:54]<SqyD>to exclude other options...
[12:08:57]<capitan>it died at a different point
[12:09:08]<capitan>and it looks like it didn't roll back
[12:09:16]<SqyD>big platform with a lot of modules?
[12:09:19]<capitan>maybe *now* i can try provision-install-backend
[12:09:49]<capitan>that's the thing... on my other host i was able to do it with the same memory limit
[12:10:02]<capitan>only difference... debian squeeze vs debian lenny... which means php 5.3
[12:10:31]<SqyD>ah... that's it...
[12:10:42]<SqyD>5.3 is unsupported at this time
[12:11:39]<SqyD>needs to be 5.2.x ...
[12:11:59]<capitan>i was afraid of that...
[12:12:26]<realityloop>omega8cc: the Guru Meditation may be a reference to Amiga Computers... https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Guru_Meditation
[12:12:28]<capitan>but i asked in here earlier and heard of people having it work on 5.3
[12:12:36]<SqyD>yeah, I keep getting bitten by that one too on various platforms
[12:13:23]<capitan>debian stable doesn't have php 5.2.x
[12:13:53]<capitan>means i either have to build my own, or see if i can get oldstable
[12:14:11]<SqyD>if you have some ram to spare I recommend running it on a virtual machine...
[12:15:11]<capitan>heh... i'm already on a VPS
[12:16:23]<omega8cc>realityloop: yeah, but it sounds silly, no matter where from it comes
[12:16:37]<SqyD>We are fighting hard to keep the Guru Meditation message on or Varnish error messages at work ;-)
[12:16:59]<realityloop>I was an Amiga user.. so not so weird to me :)
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[12:17:24]<capitan>wholly cow!
[12:17:29]<capitan>SqyD,
[12:17:37]<capitan>i bumped the memory limit to 360MB
[12:17:39]<SqyD>Trying to convince the marketing people that are taking over the error pages that this is critical technical information for debugging
[12:17:41]<capitan>and it worked
[12:17:42]<omega8cc>it is annoying use of amiga heritage! lol
[12:18:06]<capitan>i guess it was running out of memory b/c of all those annoying php 5.3 warnings
[12:18:50]<SqyD>hmm.. i should ask phk... not sure if he is/was an amiga dude
[12:20:18]<SqyD>360MB.... Ram is cheap nowadays but this is not good...
[12:20:29]<realityloop>omega8cc: it's a great story tho, the reason they are called Guru Meditations
[12:20:59]<realityloop>https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Guru_Meditation#Origins
[12:21:53]<realityloop>UPGRADE.txt doesn't exist anymore?
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[12:27:34]<omega8cc>realityloop: yeah, the story is really great and funny, but how it connects to failed backend behind proxy? the error page should be informative and not funny-geeky
[12:28:27]<omega8cc>realityloop: moved
[12:28:34]<omega8cc>to c.a.o
[12:29:42]<omega8cc>we should add there an empty file now with filename GURU_MEDITATION.txt
[12:30:42]<SqyD>it's just as non-informative as most of the error messages... We've found it more informative. Most incidents reports never contain decent error messages but somehow "guru meditation" get noted at lot
[12:31:13]<omega8cc>realityloop: see http://community.aegirproject.org/1.0-rc2
[12:34:21]<omega8cc>SqyD: is it expected that everyone was an Amiga user and "clicks" what does it mean? it is not informative at all, it is only funny for Amiga users maybe
[12:36:06]<omega8cc>anyway, gitorious is an epic fail
[12:41:09]<SqyD>That is why we are now implementing nice branded html messages per site, but in the code there is still a Guru Mediation ;-)
[12:45:01]<omega8cc>SqyD: its always nice to have something like that, but maybe not in the bold header of the error page ;)
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[12:50:10]<omega8cc>okay, BOA 1.0-boa-T released, I hope it works
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[13:56:21]<realityloop>omega8cc: the current upgrade text doesn't appear to reference the version of current release? http://community.aegirproject.org/node/450
[13:58:12]<omega8cc>realityloop: feel free to update it
[13:59:18]<omega8cc>also upgrade script doesn't - so many changes because of this migration to d.o
[14:02:11]<realityloop>omega8cc: this correct? http://community.aegirproject.org/node/450
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[14:04:29]<omega8cc>almost
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[14:04:39]<omega8cc>drusj make should be 2.1
[14:04:47]<omega8cc>drush
[14:04:57]<omega8cc>6.x-2.1
[14:05:18]<omega8cc>and
[14:05:30]<omega8cc>0.4-rc2 should be 1.0-rc2
[14:05:37]<omega8cc>:)
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[14:06:44]<realityloop>updated
[14:07:00]<omega8cc>hah, dmitrig01 just released 2.2 but we didn't test it yet
[14:08:29]<omega8cc>great, thanks!
[14:11:49]<realityloop>there are still errors in upgrade backend instructions tho
[14:17:40]<realityloop>fixed
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[14:37:33]<Taine>does anyone know how to retrieve the site alias?
[14:37:44]<Taine>I tried the hosting_alias_get_aliases function but...
[14:38:21]<Taine>I get the hosting/c/domain link instead of the one with the subdomain
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[21:23:01]<tuxnani>hi
[21:23:01]<hefring>what's up
[21:23:37]<tuxnani>i am trying to install aegir on my localhost, each time, normal php/joomla/other files are inaccessible
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[21:24:23]<tuxnani>I have to uninstall everything before getting back them, am i doing installation in wrong way?
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[22:19:57]<tuxnani>hi
[22:19:57]<hefring>salut
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[23:05:17]<tuxnani>with aegir installed, can we run other php files?
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[23:19:32]<pkej>tuxnani: yes you can, you can still make virtualhosts that aren't controlled by aegir, I run Wordpress on the same apache server as aegir
[23:20:28]<tuxnani>pkej, do we need to configure it for the same, the frontend url, i gave as localhost and nothing other than drupal aegir is seen
[23:23:50]<pkej>tuxnani: search for apache virtualhost configuration; you need to create a namevirtualhost in apaches config directory. for example, if your site is accessible as www.example.com, you need to make a new namevirtualhost for joomla.example.com, or myexperiment.example.com in apache. Because at the moment aegir controls www.example.com, because it takes over the whole domain. Each time you creata a site in aegir you will be asked for its name. Make sure that you ne
[23:25:29]<pkej>tuxnani: I made a subdomain aegir.example.com where my aegir install is available, and then I decided to not use www.example.com as an aeigr site, but as a wordpress site, but test.example.com, ls.example.com, pressflow.example.com, drupal6-20.example.com + a whole lot of other is aegir controlled sites with platforms based on popular distros of Drupal which I test out.
[23:26:46]<pkej>You just have to know what each part of the install instructions mean, how they affect your server and apache, and then decide for sensible input to make things work for your system.
[23:27:15]<tuxnani>pkej, i am trying to demonstrate aegir, and in doing so gave localhost as frontend url
[23:27:47]<tuxnani>so it means that if we have a server, to be configured using aegir
[23:27:56]<pkej>localhost is just available on your local machine anyway, so that is not a place to have it; you can choose any name, for example aegir.localhost during install; and just add that as an alias for localhost in your /etc/hosts
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[23:28:13]<tuxnani>we can have other instances of joomla/php only after some pains
[23:28:26]<tuxnani>ok
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[23:29:06]<pkej>well, if you want to demo joomla on the local machine add joomla.localhost as an alias in /etc/hosts, then add a namevirtualhost to your apache config which takes joomla.localhost and points it to your joomla install
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[23:29:49]<pkej>its really painless as soon as you learn how to use namevirtualhost directive in apache config
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[00:19:17]<hefring>community => Accessing other php pages => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/485
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[01:23:22]<ldweeks>Hello! I have an instance of aegir that's not quite working right. Domain Aliases don't work. I'm using omega8's barracuda installer script.
[01:24:06]<ldweeks>Is anyone else having problems with domain aliases?
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[01:36:57]<EclipseGc_>hello all
[01:37:13]<jtbayly>hi
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[01:39:00]<EclipseGc_>I have an alpha 8 aegir instance that deletes sites just fine, but I appear to have a site that never installed properly, and the delete task is failing on it... any thoughts?
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[01:40:20]<EclipseGc_>is there like a "force delete" task hidden somewhere
[01:41:37]<pkej>EclipseGc_: I'd go into the Content administration, delete the sites node from aegir
[01:42:20]<EclipseGc_>pkej: that doesn't delete the site
[01:42:20]<pkej>EclipseGc_: then go to /var/aegir/config and see if there is any remnants of the vhost in there
[01:42:36]<EclipseGc_>right, did I mention I don't have access to the shell? ;-)
[01:42:43]<pkej>:P
[01:43:20]<EclipseGc_>apparently I didn't heh
[01:45:18]<pkej>what happens when you visit the site address?
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[01:45:42]<pkej>Do you know if the install made the database for it?
[01:46:21]<pkej>The log on the install should be able to inform you
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[01:59:17]<EclipseGc_>install log looks all jacked up
[01:59:28]<EclipseGc_>the site itself (visiting the url) says it's offline
[01:59:36]<jtbayly>I'm having a couple of different problems that seem to relate back to the admin/hosting/settings page. I can't find a bug report about this, but it doesn't seem to be saving my options.
[01:59:37]<EclipseGc_>I suspect the db is empty or something like that
[02:00:11]<jtbayly>has anybody else seen this?
[02:00:30]<jtbayly>(I'm running the latest stable release of Barracuda)
[02:01:09]<omega8cc>jtbayly: that is by design, you can disable forced settings in the global.inc
[02:01:25]<jtbayly>ah. thanks so much.
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[02:04:52]<ergonlogic>EclipseGc_: there's a feature request to force such deletions
[02:09:54]<EclipseGc_>ergonlogic: yeah, that would be a great feature, course I'm back on alpha 8 or something so... hehe
[02:11:12]<ergonlogic>EclipseGc_: still a feature request on 1.0-rc2 :)
[02:11:44]<ergonlogic>I'm trying to figure out d.o packaging for profile releases...
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[02:12:41]<pkej>EclipseGc_: If the site says it is offline, it is installed, have you tried visitng /user/loing. If there is nothing in the browser, try visiting /install.php. If that doesn't work either, then we can assume that the site isn't installed at all.
[02:13:04]<pkej>s/loing/login/r
[02:13:22]<ergonlogic>anyone know what's up with drupal-org.make files? They seem to be required, but they're horribly crippled
[02:13:37]<ergonlogic>... required for a real release, anyway
[02:13:46]<anarcat>ergonlogic: i posted a link to the bug report, did you see that in the issue?
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[02:13:58]<anarcat>it seems they are mandatory, contrarily to what the docs says
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[02:14:00]<pkej>EclipseGc_: I mean, if visiting install.php doesn't work, there probably is no database connection set up
[02:14:20]<pkej>EclipseGc_: if that is the case, then perhaps the vhost setup isn't there in reality
[02:14:28]<ergonlogic>ergonlogic: yeah, I think there's a patch to fix that
[02:14:40]<ergonlogic>anarcat: yeah, I think there's a patch to fix that
[02:14:52]<anarcat>yeah, and dww doesn't have time to test it until at least next week :)
[02:15:00]<pkej>EclipseGc_: I've done deletes of content nodes and installed the site again without problems on occasion
[02:15:06]<sdrycroft>Can anyone tell me what is the current status of the "Hostmaster Services API" as mentioned on http://community.aegirproject.org/node/311 ? Thanks.
[02:15:43]<ergonlogic>anarcat: so... do we wait on that for a release of hostmaster, or try with a drupal-org.make?
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[02:16:47]<anarcat>ergonlogic: i guess making a release would be good in any case, just for form - even with an empty drupal-org.make...
[02:16:50]<anarcat>how are they crippled?
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[02:17:31]<ergonlogic>anarcat: they only support "projects", no libraries, includes, etc. at least, AFAICT
[02:17:32]<jtbayly>omega8: I can't find anything in /var/aegir/config/includes/global.inc that seems related to the admin/hosting/settings page. Am I looking in the right place?
[02:17:46]<jtbayly>or do I have the wrong global.inc file?
[02:17:52]<anarcat>ergonlogic: that sucks
[02:17:59]<anarcat>ergonlogic: it also sucks having to maintain the two makefiles
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[02:18:49]<ergonlogic>anarcat: well, the docs suggest just running our .make through a conversion utility
[02:19:09]<anarcat>yeah well, that still means maintaining two copies
[02:19:36]<ergonlogic>anarcat: for now... hopefully that patch will fix it
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[02:21:26]<ergonlogic>sdrycroft: last time I looked, cmcintosh had posted some alpha code on his blog, but I haven't seen anything else since
[02:22:15]<ergonlogic>anarcat: so, I'll look into converting the makefile, and see where it gets us
[02:22:55]<anarcat>ergonlogic: okay
[02:23:07]<ergonlogic>anarcat: at very least the jquery.ui library will likely be an issue
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[02:34:49]<EclipseGc_>pkej: yeah, visiting install.php actually gives me the opportunity to install so...
[02:35:01]<EclipseGc_>pkej: looks as though the db wasn't created
[02:35:02]<sdrycroft>Cheers ergonlogic.
[02:35:22]<EclipseGc_>ergonlogic: I suppose that would be a drush function to add to provision?
[02:35:28]* EclipseGc_ shudders at screwing with provision
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[02:36:40]<jtbayly>omega8.cc: I think there might also be an Aegir bug involved, and I'd like to track it down and report it. It is preventing me from editing a site node (I need to add a domain alias). The site is on a platform in the main aegir instance (I'm not using Octopus), and that platform has a few sites that use the default Drupal profile and others that use some custom profiles that we created. I can edit the sites that have custom pro
[02:36:40]<jtbayly>but I'm not allowed to edit the ones on the default Drupal profile. The edit site form returns, "Please choose a valid platform". Of course, you can't choose a platform when you are editing a site node. Anyway, if you could help me confirm whether this is indeed an aegir bug, I'd appreciate it.
[02:36:44]<pkej>EclipseGc_: If you can visit install.php, does it fail due to missing db? if it does, I'd try to remove the node for the site and install anew (also remove the nodes for the log
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[02:37:13]<EclipseGc_>pkej: "Failed to connect to your MySQL database server."
[02:37:25]<EclipseGc_>think we've confirmed the db missing ;-)
[02:37:55]<pkej>EclipseGc_: Personally I'd try to delete and create it anew. It won't interfere with your other sites.
[02:38:11]<EclipseGc_>pkej: yeah, once I finish this small module I may attempt that
[02:38:54]<jtbayly>I'm guessing it is, in particular the "Hide platforms with non-default profiles" that is the problem.
[02:44:16]<jtbayly>Anybody else experience problems editing a site node when "Hide platforms with non-default profiles" is selected and the site is already on a Drupal core profile, in a platform that also contains other profiles?
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[02:48:05]<CashWilliams>My task queue is no longer running on rc2
[02:48:26]<CashWilliams>I think it maybe a drush version issue (Warning: The command callback function hosting_run_queue has a deprecated name. It must begin with drush_hosting_. Skipping hook functions.)
[02:50:31]<CashWilliams>eh, just downgraded to drush 3.3 and still get the same thing
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[03:18:41]<CashWilliams>nevermind. My drushrc file got screwed up for some reason
[03:20:27]<EclipseGc_>CashWilliams: you never showed for Dinner
[03:20:28]<EclipseGc_>:-(
[03:21:13]<CashWilliams>oh yeah, sorry about that. Tried to find you around 3 that day. Our primary mail server blew up and was fixing it most of the afternoon/night
[03:22:12]<EclipseGc_>CashWilliams: ahhhh, ok maybe we should have exchanged phone numbers :-S
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[03:55:07]<jtbayly>omega8.cc: Thanks again. I found the setting in global.inc
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[04:10:40]<parsingphase>clear
[04:10:46]<parsingphase>oops
[04:11:21]<parsingphase>Anyone get "Call to undefined function conf_path" calling "drush help" with the new rc2 ?
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[05:08:39]<CashWilliams>parsingphase: nope, works fine for me
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[05:31:00]<shrop>CashWilliams: Great to meet you IRL last week!
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[05:45:58]<obrienmd>omega8cc: dunno what it is about my enviro... i seem to cause problems when no one else has them :) trying my install of latest barracuda on squeeze, failing out miserably
[05:46:20]<obrienmd>omega8cc: is aegir-install.log supposed to be a full log or length-limited? it looks cut-off at the top
[05:52:04]<omega8cc>obrienmd: what is your host? the barracuda hostmaster install log is /var/aegir/install.log
[05:52:36]<omega8cc>it starts with "==> MySQL is listening on ..."
[05:52:56]<omega8cc>and ends with "Aegir is now installed. You can visit it ..."
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[05:58:33]<obrienmd>oemga8cc: one sec
[05:58:55]<obrienmd>to no answer your question at all ;) I think I can trace install failure to this aptitude failure: tzdata-java : Depends: tzdata (= 2010o-1) but 2011c-0squeeze1 is to be installed
[05:59:16]<obrienmd>installer didn't even get to creating /var/aegir
[05:59:56]<obrienmd>host is linux kvm guest on core i7, 4gb ram allocated, 200gb disk allocated
[06:00:02]<obrienmd>squeeez
[06:00:51]<obrienmd>squeeze netinst, only openssh server checked, then apt-get install screen after install, then start a screen session, modify BARRACUDA.sh.txt (e-mail and manual DNS), then bash BARRACUDA.sh.txt
[06:01:24]<omega8cc>obrienmd: interesting, as it works out of the box on any squeeze instance based on Xen, I tested it in a few different datacenters
[06:01:34]<obrienmd>hrm
[06:02:27]<obrienmd>the line "tzdata-java : Depends: tzdata (= 2010o-1) but 2011c-0squeeze1 is to be installed" is definitely what I can trace the aptitude failure back to... so let me do some research on that
[06:02:42]<omega8cc>obrienmd: are you sure you don't have php 5.3 installed prior to running Barracuda?
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[06:02:56]<obrienmd>100% sure
[06:03:11]<omega8cc>weird
[06:04:11]<obrienmd>dpkg -l at point of failure results in: http://pastebin.com/d7vmQmzz
[06:04:15]<obrienmd>no php packages at all
[06:04:21]<omega8cc>obrienmd: what apt server are you using? maybe something is out of sync there
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[06:04:55]<obrienmd>ftp.us.debian.org
[06:05:40]<omega8cc>so, it works for me with the same apt source on Linode xen squeeze
[06:05:59]<omega8cc>and on ony other own servers, at Gandi etc
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[06:06:22]<obrienmd>ok thanks for the confirmation
[06:06:26]<obrienmd>will continue troubleshooting
[06:08:36]<omega8cc>obrienmd: let me know if you will find a fix
[06:09:03]<obrienmd>will do... perhaps it has to do w/ installing squeeze from netinst image... will d/l full DVD1 image
[06:09:06]<obrienmd>and try from there
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[06:10:33]<obrienmd>omega8cc: for troubleshooting purposes, would it be harmful for me to aptitude install the debdeps prior to running barracuda.sh.txt?
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[06:11:16]<omega8cc>obrienmd: nothing bad should happen, you can
[06:11:30]<omega8cc>bbl
[06:12:01]<obrienmd>thanks
[06:19:45]<sdudenhofer>has anything been cleared up with chained certificates? http://drupal.org/node/1062168 according to the ticket I shouldn't try to hook into the vhost file to add the lines in that file if they need to be under port 443 not port 80
[06:20:15]<sdudenhofer>is this the right channel to ask aegir support questions??
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[06:28:02]<realityloop>omega8cc: have you disabled .bashrc on your servers??
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[06:42:21]<CashWilliams>shrop: you too!
[06:46:26]<hefring>community => Accessing files without full sites/fqdn URL? => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/486
[06:47:49]<omega8cc>realityloop: yes
[06:48:32]<realityloop>omega8cc: is there a way to add aliases to change ls output?
[06:49:08]<omega8cc>realityloop: yes, on the server config level
[06:49:49]<realityloop>do we have access to do that ourselves?
[06:51:00]<omega8cc>realityloop: on our hosted service? no, but we can add it on request (after it will be accepted etc)
[06:51:22]<realityloop>omega8cc: ok thanks..
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[07:49:07]<Deezire>josh_k: Is there any way to get a sneak preview of Pantheon? I'm really interested in aegir as SaaS
[07:49:22]<josh_k>Deezire: that's not pantheon ;)
[07:49:38]<josh_k>similar, but different architecture
[07:49:43]<Deezire>oh, i need to read the mail again! :)
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[07:50:37]<Deezire>Ah, now i remeber!
[07:51:04]<Deezire>Aegir-ish deployment to le' cloud
[07:58:36]<josh_k>Deezire: right, but not multisite
[07:58:39]<josh_k>which is what aegir is all about
[07:59:00]<Deezire>My sites are usually too large for multi-site setup, anyway :)
[07:59:22]<Deezire>looking for a feature to easily maintain a huge amount of servers running drupal
[07:59:52]<Deezire>But i'd be happy to stupid-user-test it, just give me a poke!
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[08:01:29]<Deezire>It's cool that new information has started to emerge again, i was afraid the project had gone silent
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[08:11:23]<alfthecat>Hi everyone, I just made a typo in the publish path for a platform. So verification fails and deletion also. If I edit the platform node, I can t edit the publish path field. How can I fix this? using RC1
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[08:16:47]<mig5>alfthecat: you'll have to manually delete the node (/node/$nid/delete) and then clean up anything in the backend (on the filesystem), including any relevant drush alias that got created for the platform in ~/.drush/, and any apache config created in ~/config/server_master/apache/platform.d/
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[08:19:56]<alfthecat>thanks, I chose antoher route, to edit my platform directory to match the typo so I´ll now be able to verify, delete and clean up
[08:20:11]<mig5>yep
[08:20:22]* anarcat updates the drush debian package
[08:21:16]<Deezire>Woooo, just five years to we see it then? ;-)
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[08:21:48]<anarcat>Deezire: two, unless you get it from backports in 10 days
[08:21:55]<mig5>anarcat: you should maintain it in a koumbit repo, then we don't have to wait for debian :)
[08:22:06]<anarcat>mig5: the drush people are pushing for that, and i disagree
[08:22:08]<mig5>imagine if release.sh did the .deb :)
[08:22:14]<Deezire>mig5: that's not very debian-ish
[08:22:17]<mig5>nope
[08:22:21]<mig5>but fuck 'em :)
[08:22:44]<Deezire>I'd presonally love to see Debian making some work on acutally building packages.
[08:23:02]<Deezire>So i could've easily maintain some packages my self
[08:24:05]<Deezire>I saw someone building rpms, pretty much a one-liner.
[08:24:13]<anarcat>i don't see where the "waiting for debian" argument stands
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[08:24:23]<anarcat>lenny and squeeze have 3.3
[08:24:31]<anarcat>unstable and wheezy have 4.2, 4.3 shortly
[08:24:46]<anarcat>i'm holding off the backporting because 4.2 breaks aegir, but otherwise squeeze-backports would have 4
[08:25:12]<mig5>i think backports exist b*because* the 'waiting for debian' argument stands :)
[08:25:31]<mig5>a nasty stopgap :)
[08:26:14]<anarcat>no it exists because of the "i want unstable software on my server" argument
[08:26:23]<mig5>:)
[08:26:27]<Deezire>last time Debian rushed into something it ended up in a zeroday exploit if i recall? So i guess most of the maintainers are hold it in, heh.
[08:26:51]<anarcat>Deezire: not sure what you're talking about there
[08:27:01]<Deezire>The 0-day backported SSL-thingie
[08:27:02]<mig5>ssl i think
[08:27:05]<mig5>snapo
[08:28:01]<anarcat>that wasn't a 0-day
[08:28:08]<anarcat>was it?
[08:28:12]<anarcat>and it wasn't a backport either
[08:28:38]<Deezire>I vaguely remember it, but wasnt that backported from some patch Ubuntu maintainers made?
[08:28:43]<mig5>yeah it was neither
[08:28:56]<mig5>and it was a debian change that ubuntu also inherited, but it didn't come from upstream
[08:29:25]<Deezire>ah, i seem to have mixed stuff up big time
[08:30:11]<anarcat>yes
[08:30:21]<anarcat>Préparation du remplacement de drush 3.3-1 (en utilisant .../build-area/drush_4.3-1_all.deb) ...
[08:30:46]<mig5>woot
[08:33:19]<anarcat>so i've got this great new experience here with provision-save
[08:33:20]<anarcat>well
[08:33:20]<anarcat>new
[08:33:21]<anarcat>old.
[08:33:30]<anarcat>see if you can guess what it is
[08:34:06]<anarcat>too late
[08:34:07]<anarcat>http://drupal.org/node/946606
[08:34:11]<anarcat>provision-save segfaults
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[08:50:03]<anarcat>i found the issue with my segfault - it happens when aegir references a non-existent context/alias and tries to dynamically load it, fun bug
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[08:55:19]<rocksoup>I am trying to install the new RC and am getting an error when I run the install.sh script and can not figure out what the issue is
[08:56:07]<rocksoup>the complete commands I have run: http://drupalbin.com/17968
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[09:00:15]<obrienmd>rocksoup: based on a cursory look, looks like it's failing grabbing provision via git
[09:00:34]<obrienmd>can you poke around and see what install.sh is running there?
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[09:00:44]<obrienmd>because the git grab should be pretty simple / should work
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[09:01:14]<rocksoup>obrienmd: this is the install.sh file - http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/blob_plain/refs/tags/6.x-1.0...
[09:01:23]<obrienmd>yup, looking through it now
[09:02:27]<obrienmd>so it's failing while running hostmaster-install
[09:03:43]<obrienmd>hrm
[09:06:32]<rocksoup>I think I have a misconfigured "FQDN"
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[09:06:53]<obrienmd>it's pretty sensitive to that, so I'd re-proper it and try again
[09:08:13]<rocksoup>hm, not sure how
[09:10:38]<obrienmd>it's been a long time since I installed aegir w/o omega8cc's script, but I think it's doable
[09:10:39]<obrienmd>http://drupal.org/node/977324
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[09:10:41]<obrienmd>maybe that helps?
[09:10:43]<obrienmd>running out now
[09:10:46]<obrienmd>sorry
[09:11:04]<rocksoup>ty obrienmd
[09:11:26]<obrienmd>np for what little/nothing i provided :)
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[09:40:14]<anarcat>incredible
[09:40:24]<anarcat>i have a provision-backup generated backup that doesn't have a database.sql - wtf.
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[10:10:01]<scyrma_>anarcat: I've got databases that don't match any sites.. maybe we should get them to meet? :-)
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[10:11:40]<anarcat>scyrma_: fun fun
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[10:29:59]<obrienmd>omega8cc: ok, started w/ a new debian CD image, doing a manual apt-get of all debdeps (after adding mariadb sources to sources.list) seems to be working, no tzdata apt-get failure thus far...
[10:30:33]<omega8cc>hmm
[10:30:43]<obrienmd>this is a good thing :)
[10:30:50]<obrienmd>no failures yet
[10:31:45]<omega8cc>sure, in the meantime I screwed one vserver guest upgrade and have no idea what is going on there, uh
[10:31:59]<obrienmd>what are the symptoms?
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[10:32:57]<omega8cc>php-fpm timeouts even on simple hello script without any good reason, while the same config works on all others
[10:33:04]<obrienmd>hrm
[10:33:19]<obrienmd>i just tried 10.04.2 (ubuntu) a few hours ago while fiddling around, and had that same issue
[10:33:48]<omega8cc>trying to debug it before I will give up and restore it from backup
[10:34:20]<omega8cc>nginx works, db works, php-cli works
[10:34:43]<omega8cc>just php-fpm timeouts while I can connect to it locally
[10:34:49]<omega8cc>wtf
[10:35:44]<omega8cc>obrienmd: you experienced something like that?
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[10:36:30]<obrienmd>yup
[10:36:36]<omega8cc>thanks God most of pages for this site are still in the Boost cache so it is up
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[10:37:22]<omega8cc>btw, it is on Debian Lenny
[10:40:42]<obrienmd>omega8cc: I've not seen that on a lenny machine
[10:41:17]<omega8cc>I never seen that on any machine! that is the problem
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[10:43:01]<omega8cc>now I guess this vserver guest has been moved recently between machines and it is its first system upgrade on the newer machine, so maybe it is related, no idea
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[10:49:22]<obrienmd>also, I've noticed that nginx initial still requires a process kill for me on both squeeze and ubuntu
[10:49:35]<obrienmd>note: by squeeze install should be done in 15 minutes or so
[10:51:04]<omega8cc>obrienmd: yeah, we even added the info at the end of Barracuda install about forcing Nginx restart, for some reason it doesn't work when killed/restarted from script
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[10:52:17]<omega8cc>we added fastcgi cache and it starts special 2 extra watchers to maintaing it, maybe this causes failed initial restart
[10:54:04]<obrienmd>ah
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