IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-03-15 (GMT)

2011-03-14
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[11:02:11]<omega8cc>enough, I will restore it from our fast r1soft backup and then clone the guest to test the upgrade again
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[11:12:02]<obrienmd>omega8cc: I think i am getting that timeout problem w/ my fresh install
[11:12:26]<omega8cc>wow
[11:12:57]<obrienmd>yup
[11:13:11]<obrienmd>chive, sqlbuddy, aegir, etc - php-fpm timing out everything
[11:13:19]<omega8cc>we upgraded today over 50 other servers and no issues, this was the first with wtf
[11:13:47]<omega8cc>"interesting"
[11:14:44]<obrienmd>ugh
[11:16:02]<obrienmd>nothing in logs (firewall, etc)
[11:17:20]<omega8cc>yeah, just timeouts, so maybe there is something in the today apt libs breaking php-fpm build? hmm
[11:17:39]<obrienmd>seems that way
[11:18:10]<omega8cc>but it worked about 6 hours ago w/o any issue, oh
[11:25:21]<obrienmd>I will let you know if I find anything, and will be watching your commit log :)
[11:26:32]<omega8cc>yeah
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[11:45:04]<omega8cc>it was the first time in the last 2 years I had to restore from r1soft full vserver guest with 5 GB of data, nice
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[13:36:06]<obrienmd>@omega8cc: was it an APC issue?
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[14:55:37]<llwp>I reviewed all servers that all platforms were using and did not note any using one of them, so I changed the IP address ... only to have aegir go away. um, oops?
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[15:35:47]<obrienmd>omega8cc: ok, w/ latest commit install worked great
[15:37:02]<obrienmd>I removed wilcard ssl vhost file, but barracuda hostmaster is still redirecting to https (attempting to, but cannot), looking through global.inc now to figure out why, any pointers?
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[15:41:00]<installBarracuda>hello, is anyone familiar with installing barracuda and octopus?
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[15:46:43]<omega8cc>obrienmd: yeah, APC from svn is broken now
[15:48:48]<omega8cc>obrienmd: you need to comment out or remove this: https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/blob/master/aegir/conf/glob... to this https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/blob/master/aegir/conf/glob...
[15:49:15]<omega8cc>installBarracuda: nice nick
[15:51:05]<omega8cc>almost 6 am here, time to get some sleep, night *
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[17:06:33]<Aurorus>omega8cc: Does the Aegir backup task also backup the database?
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[18:11:29]<HaloFX>Aurorus: yeS
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[18:35:47]<Aurorus>HaloFX: Cheers mate, ty
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[00:43:56]<noecc>anarcat: ping
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[01:15:28]<johnopl>Hey guys. Is there a channel for Managing News or DevSeed at large?
[01:20:21]<EclipseGc>johnopl: #open_atrium
[01:20:47]<johnopl>EclipseGc: That makes sense, both Phase2 products. Thanks!
[01:21:07]<EclipseGc>johnopl: np, devseed kind of maintained that as the "devseed channel"
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[01:22:19]<johnopl>EclipseGc: Ahh, I see. Alright cool. Thanks alot!
[01:22:34]<EclipseGc>np
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[01:50:06]<anarcat>noecc: pong
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[01:50:37]<noecc>anarcat: For your todo list, On d.o the project description and repository links need updating for provision, hosting & hostmaster as well as the repo link at http://groups.drupal.org/aegir-hosting-system.
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[02:19:17]<siliconmeadow>i'm trying to do a fresh install of rc2 using install.sh.txt and get this:
[02:19:20]<siliconmeadow>WD php: Field 'contact_type' doesn't have a default value
[02:20:12]<siliconmeadow>the database WAS created, but then it gets wiped out, and I can't figure out what's going wrong
[02:20:14]<anarcat>which db server?
[02:20:29]<siliconmeadow>mariadb
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[02:21:01]<siliconmeadow>anarcat: 5.1.51-MariaDB-mariadb87
[02:21:20]<anarcat>i see!
[02:21:23]<anarcat>please open an issue
[02:21:33]<anarcat>it seems like mariadb is more restrictive about the schema than mysql
[02:21:44]<anarcat>we had issues like this before and fixed them
[02:22:17]<siliconmeadow>oh, really? that ... hmmm do you need me to run with --debug at all? Or just copy and paste what I've got in my terminal?
[02:23:09]<anarcat>--debug would be nice
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[02:24:48]<siliconmeadow>anarcat: will do - thanks for the heads up. I'm in a bit of a rush, so would I be considered NOT a team player if I ditched mariadb and went back to the standard mysql in lucid's repos/
[02:24:58]<siliconmeadow>?
[02:25:04]<anarcat>well
[02:25:14]<anarcat>what if i roll out a quick patch for you and you try it out?
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[02:25:34]<siliconmeadow>anarcat - I'm happy to help where I can!
[02:25:47]<anarcat>alright - i'll try to roll something out in the next 30
[02:26:02]<siliconmeadow>you still need the issue though, I take it?
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[02:26:15]<anarcat>siliconmeadow: yes
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[02:32:00]<siliconmeadow>anarcat: this is the output that I've got when trying to run manually after a clean install failure: http://drupalbin.com/17986
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[02:33:05]<siliconmeadow>do you need me to do that with a clean install? Is it possible to do so?
[02:34:23]<anarcat>PROVISION_SITE_INSTALLED [53.6 sec, 10.51 MB] [error]
[02:34:28]<anarcat>you need to trash the hostmaster site
[02:34:33]<anarcat>drush @hostmaster provision-delete
[02:34:45]<anarcat>and/or rm -rf ~/hostmaster*/sites/$FQDN
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[02:35:52]<siliconmeadow>ok - and then run the hostmaster-install --debug again?
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[02:37:16]<anarcat>yeah
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[02:41:28]<siliconmeadow>anarcat: http://drupalbin.com/17988
[02:41:48]<anarcat>siliconmeadow: can you open an issue please?
[02:41:55]<siliconmeadow>certainly
[02:43:45]<siliconmeadow>in the provision queue?
[02:44:24]<anarcat>no, hostmaster
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[02:57:23]<siliconmeadow>anarcat: done - http://drupal.org/node/1093436
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[03:57:28]<AntiNSA>have to reinstall old head version... chron and mail messed up... whats better at this very moment rc2 or current head version?
[03:57:50]<anarcat>both should be fine
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[03:58:26]<AntiNSA>ok thanks
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[04:42:34]<ghankstef>anarcat: thanks for the Aegir tips at drupalcon! Already helped
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[04:43:02]<anarcat>ghankstef: cool! :)
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[04:47:14]<hefring>community => Aegir Roadmap BoF at DrupalCon Chicago, March 2011 => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/488
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[05:50:15]<omega8cc>anarcat: scrum today or still on Wed/Thu?
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[06:19:06]<hefring>community => Aegir local usage? => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/489
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[06:38:47]<AquaticDisorder>wow my discussion post gets flagged here? that is soooo kooool!
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[06:49:22]<shrop>omega8cc: Reading up on http://drupal.org/node/984256. So I can set the php-cli script timeout to be something more than 600 seconds and should be ok with OpenPublish 2.3? Thanks in advance.
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[06:53:54]<omega8cc>shrop: I'm using 900 sec and 512 MB memory limit and it still doesn't help, see: http://drupal.org/node/726596#comment-4201150 and Phase2 response: http://twitter.com/#!/openpublish/status/47407757296537600
[06:55:31]<omega8cc>shrop: so it "works" - the site is provisioned and you can clone/migrate it etc, just the initial install is a bit manual work
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[06:58:00]<AntiNSA-AFK>what is sql buddy maria db manager?? is that just another app which does the same as chive?
[06:58:18]<obrienmd>yes, similar
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[06:58:53]<kylejaster>hi all - am having trouble running the aegir quick install script - i'm getting an error when trying to download jquery_ui
[06:59:02]<AntiNSA-AFK>thanks, and collective graph panel? Sorry to be inquisitive....
[06:59:11]<kylejaster>noticed that this issue was on communit.aegirproject.org:
[06:59:12]<kylejaster>http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:qMKPCJOUsLoJ:commun...
[06:59:20]<AntiNSA-AFK>thats like a stat program right?
[06:59:22]<kylejaster>but seems to have been deleted (that's the cached version)
[06:59:31]<kylejaster>does anyone know how to resolve this?
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[07:01:26]<AntiNSA-AFK>one thing I really need to know the others I can figure out... bind dns server... Im on linode... is that for if you have ylur site hosted on multiple servers or are using multiple dns adresses? Not necissary for a single server and single dns, fight?
[07:01:49]<AntiNSA-AFK>right not fight sorry...
[07:02:01]<AntiNSA-AFK>sorry kyle i dont know
[07:02:42]<kylejaster>thank AntiNSA-AFK
[07:02:45]<kylejaster>:(
[07:03:02]<omega8cc>AntiNSA-AFK: you don't need Bind unless you want to test experimental DNS stuff in Aegir, it is an option in Barracuda to help with testing
[07:03:08]<AntiNSA-AFK>I hate to install bind just because I dont know what it is and use extra resources for nothing
[07:03:16]<AntiNSA-AFK>ah
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[07:03:44]<AntiNSA-AFK>wiht the standard head setup , all functionds of copying and migrating will still be availalbe
[07:04:00]<AntiNSA-AFK>without bind, I mean especially wildcard dns
[07:04:14]<AntiNSA-AFK>?
[07:04:42]<AntiNSA-AFK>all caching features will still be there too, right?
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[07:05:51]<AntiNSA-AFK>I just cant say how great the last head version was, I would hate to break it on a new isntall. for some reason chron and email stopped working, so upgrading clean install new head.
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[07:07:34]<omega8cc>kylejaster: it is no longer an issue, afaik, or it was a temp connection issue
[07:08:00]<AntiNSA-AFK>hmmm... get root database password starting with kOR .... I wonder if the second character is a 0 or an O
[07:08:33]<kylejaster>omega8cc - yea, that's what it seemed to be from the comments, but i've been stuck on the same step for 30 minutes - so seems like either something that i've broken or something else is wrong?
[07:08:37]<omega8cc>kylejaster: hmm, in fact I;m using my copy of that file because downloading it from Google was often broken
[07:08:42]<kylejaster>ah
[07:08:47]<kylejaster>so that was my next idea
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[07:09:11]<kylejaster>where is the hostmaster.make file that references jquery_ui so i can just alter ut?
[07:09:11]<kylejaster>it*
[07:10:03]<omega8cc>kylejaster: this is what I did: https://github.com/omega8cc/hostmaster/blob/master/hostmaster.make
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[07:11:33]<omega8cc>AntiNSA-AFK: you can upgrade to head or latest stable Barracuda - it is almost the same now
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[07:12:12]<AntiNSA-AFK>is id ok to use the advanced javascript aggregator in head now? or better to not use it?
[07:12:12]<AntiNSA-AFK>and, I have like 300 students that want to send yo ua thank you email, where should they send it?
[07:12:12]<AntiNSA-AFK>ok
[07:12:24]<kylejaster>thnx omega8cc :) - will try that
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[07:13:44]<omega8cc>AntiNSA-AFK: :) you can at omega8cc@gmail.com
[07:14:40]<omega8cc>AntiNSA-AFK: the advanced aggregator still has some weird bugs
[07:14:48]<omega8cc>so we removed it for now
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[07:16:07]<omega8cc>there is a patch making it compatible with css_emimage, but the advagg is buggy
[07:16:27]<omega8cc>anyway, our configuration is now advagg ready
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[07:17:33]<AntiNSA>ok
[07:17:56]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: ^^ you see my answers? ok
[07:18:18]<anarcat>omega8cc: i don't remember :)
[07:18:33]<omega8cc>anarcat: lol :)
[07:19:00]<omega8cc>anarcat: I even added that Tue works for me
[07:19:07]<AntiNSA>I am installing now and this line _DOMAIN=$_USER.`uname -n` I always have to replace with this _DOMAIN=`aegir.mydomain.com` does this ruin octopus when I do this?
[07:19:10]<AntiNSA>ah
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[07:19:22]<AntiNSA>ok I see it
[07:19:40]<AntiNSA>we will send you with an invitation to view their project in may
[07:19:54]<anarcat>now with daylight savings...
[07:20:09]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: you need to replace it only on initial install, on upgrade all you need is to edit _USER
[07:20:22]<AntiNSA>I am doing a fresh install
[07:20:51]<omega8cc>then you need to edit also _DOMAIN if you don't want the default
[07:20:57]<AntiNSA>on a fresh install is it bad practice to remove the $_USER ? I alays get errors if I dont remove it...
[07:21:11]<AntiNSA>ok
[07:21:33]<omega8cc>the _DOMAIN can be anything pointing to your server IP
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[07:22:04]<AntiNSA>I just want to make sure I get everything super by the book this time. the last head was the first time since 12.27 I went 8 days without needing to restore from a backup.
[07:22:04]<llwp_>I am convinced the norse gods have it in for me. even now, my computer is trying to force a reboot. .... maybe someone here can point to something specific. at some point in the past I had a mysql username and password for aegir server localhost configured. now it seems when I put in (a verified correct) username and password... everything becomes inaccessible. including aegir.(!) tried for hours to fix before, and finally gave up
[07:23:07]<AntiNSA>llwp_ maybe your blocked from logging in to many times with the wrong ip.. that has happened with me,,,
[07:24:04]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: no, his problem is different
[07:24:15]<llwp_>good idea, but doesnt seem probable. only change was mysql config in server page
[07:24:37]<omega8cc>llwp_: is it an old install or some recent version?
[07:24:54]<llwp_>recent.. within last month or two
[07:25:04]<llwp_>not 1.0 ... maybe 0.8?
[07:25:31]<omega8cc>two monhts are two years in the Aegir world ;)
[07:25:37]<llwp_>i know
[07:25:45]<omega8cc>alpha8?
[07:25:56]<omega8cc>0.4?
[07:26:06]<llwp_>that sounds familiar...
[07:26:15]<omega8cc>no, have some beta probably
[07:26:22]<llwp_>looking to see if i have it noted offline ...
[07:27:22]<omega8cc>you can compare with other releases http://community.aegirproject.org/1.0-rc2
[07:27:39]<llwp_>its not 1.0 that much i know
[07:27:53]<llwp_>it was a beta release i think
[07:28:38]<llwp_>best to look in hostmaster module info file for version ...?
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[07:29:00]<llwp_>um duh its in the folder name
[07:29:08]<llwp_>0.4 beta 2
[07:29:10]<omega8cc>check what you have in /var/aegir/.drush/provision/upgrade.sh.txt
[07:29:18]<omega8cc>yeah
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[07:29:48]<llwp_>yes i have that
[07:30:01]<llwp_>oh yeah, one of the other times i did this i just ran the install script
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[07:30:12]<llwp_>yes. im a dumass. ive done this b4.
[07:30:36]<llwp_>and i think i even talked to you omega
[07:30:55]<EclipseGc>ok, I have some seriously weird bs going on
[07:31:25]<EclipseGc>working on an aegir server that has symlinks from the sites dir in one platform to sites in a different platform
[07:31:28]<omega8cc>llwp_: maybe, not sure, but the upgrade script is everything you need to upgrade
[07:31:44]<EclipseGc>aegir seems to think that they're on the symlink platform and not in the platform in which they really reside... thoughts?
[07:32:06]<llwp_>im nervous. rather not f* it up much more im already getting client calls irate...
[07:32:18]* EclipseGc would love any sort of thoughts about the ramifications of such a setup
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[07:32:52]<llwp_>my ssh is slow, the install script is in config, right?
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[07:33:53]<omega8cc>llwp_: are you trying to upgrade or install from scratch?
[07:34:19]<llwp_>torn.
[07:34:47]<llwp_>if i upgrade from this version using wget version of script.... im probably going to be ok, right? lots of people have done it?
[07:35:00]<omega8cc>the install/upgrade docs has been moved: http://community.aegirproject.org/upgrading
[07:35:31]<omega8cc>follow this: http://community.aegirproject.org/upgrading
[07:35:35]<llwp_>im dizzy from everything moving.
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[07:36:09]<omega8cc>EclipseGc: wow, you are trying something crazy, I don't think you can do that without breaking things
[07:36:33]<EclipseGc>omega8cc: exactly what I was afraid of
[07:36:41]<EclipseGc>omega8cc: I'm not sure what code is being executed etc
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[07:36:56]<EclipseGc>omega8cc: and they're complaining that features aren't working and I'm like... we're damn lucky the site runs at all
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[07:37:19]<llwp_>id rather just rerun the script for now.
[07:37:25]* jhedstrom waves back
[07:37:40]<jhedstrom>EclipseGc, i wanted to run into you in chicago but there were too many people
[07:37:53]<llwp_>that is unless its more likely to cause a problem...
[07:38:01]<omega8cc>EclipseGc: yeah, cross-sym-linking between sites dirs is really bad idea
[07:38:02]<EclipseGc>jhedstrom: totally, I was disappointed
[07:38:38]<EclipseGc>omega8cc: ok that was my feeling... any thoughts about fixing it? maybe migrate from the platform it thinks it's on to the platform it's really on and delete the symlinks?
[07:38:47]<omega8cc>llwp_: you can't rerun install script, btw
[07:39:14]<EclipseGc>jhedstrom: I was hoping you'd hit my page_manager bof
[07:39:15]<EclipseGc>:-)
[07:39:41]<jhedstrom>EclipseGc, i meant to...forget what i went to instead
[07:40:03]<omega8cc>EclipseGc: whatever it is, I would start with duplication stuff to make all platforms standalone and complete and removing all those crazy symlinks first
[07:40:22]<EclipseGc>jhedstrom: heh
[07:40:45]<llwp_>hm. ok, wont.
[07:40:48]<EclipseGc>omega8cc: ok, thx I just needed some ammunition besides my own brain space on this one
[07:41:35]<omega8cc>EclipseGc: I'm sure your brain space is enough big to handle this! ;)
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[07:42:07]<AntiNSA>is there a password length limitation when creating user login and pass for barracuda/octopus?
[07:42:38]<omega8cc>which user?
[07:42:55]<AntiNSA>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx is the length of my password
[07:43:17]<AntiNSA>for my barracuda/octopus admin
[07:43:22]<omega8cc>you don't define any password in Barracuda/Octopus
[07:43:27]<AntiNSA>not client, just myself
[07:43:33]<omega8cc>it is drupal stuff
[07:43:48]<AntiNSA>it sends me the link for resetting the password after the install was complete
[07:43:55]<omega8cc>so whatever drupal can handle, will work
[07:44:01]<AntiNSA>to loginto aegir cp
[07:44:11]<AntiNSA>ok
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[07:44:13]<AntiNSA>thanks
[07:44:51]<AntiNSA>and the username and password should be the same I can use without the .ftp to ssh into my server so I dont have to use root...
[07:45:07]<AntiNSA>got it
[07:46:02]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: the Aegir system user doesn't have any shell by default, so only x.ftp user is shell enabled
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[07:46:59]<omega8cc>and I really recommend to not use the Aegir system user to manage anything, or create backups often
[07:47:10]<kylejaster>omega8cc - wanted to give you quick update - fooled around a bit more and the issue was definitely just google's server, eventually got it downloaded per normal instructions. lame!
[07:47:15]<kylejaster>thanks for your help
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[07:47:47]<AntiNSA>ah... so i need to ftp.mydomain.com with putty and login with xxx.ftp with putty and not only filezilla....
[07:47:55]<AntiNSA>ok thanks
[07:48:06]<omega8cc>kylejaster: np
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[07:52:06]<shrop>omega8cc: Thanks so much for the info!
[07:52:42]<anarcat>hey shrop, what's up
[07:52:49]<shrop>hey hey!
[07:52:57]<shrop>Just working on this aegir server for roll out tomorrow
[07:53:19]<omega8cc>shrop: np, I hope they will fix that soon, after our clients started to make some noise ;)
[07:54:20]<AntiNSA>just got an error on fresh install of newest head when creating a new sit : The css_emimage module is required but was not found. Please move it into the modules subdirectory.
[07:54:41]<AntiNSA>Ill upload that module. it was a 6.2 install
[07:55:26]<shrop>omega8cc: yep.. It is in OP's best interest to get it working well with aegir. Distros and Aegir are a great match..
[07:55:42]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: hmm, this module should be in /data/all/xx/o_contrib
[07:55:43]<shrop>FYI, I am recommending you to a number of folks I know who really don't have sysadmin chops, but run Drupal
[07:56:19]<omega8cc>shrop: nice! thank you!
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[07:58:43]<llwp_>my config does not match as described. im pretty sure just need to rerun hostmaster install
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[07:59:40]<llwp_>so i did... and my problem there is SQLSTATE[28000] [1045] access denied for user 'root'@'host' (useing password: YES)
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[08:00:10]<llwp_>..... i can command line into mysql with that password. but not too sure why it says root@host
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[08:00:48]<AntiNSA>can I use the regular css_emimage from drupals website or is aegir running a hacked version?
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[08:01:04]<llwp_>thats the problem.....
[08:01:22]<omega8cc>llwp_: you would need to add the grant for root to be able to connect also using host, not just localhost maybe
[08:01:44]<llwp_>"host" in the script is defined........ wrong...... YES. OMEGA
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[08:02:00]<AntiNSA>everytime I look at the screen aegir makes me smile
[08:02:04]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: you can use original, our version is patched to work with advagg
[08:02:05]<llwp_>didnt know that was a user. never had this prob b4 that i know...
[08:02:35]<AntiNSA>can you tell me where I can get your version?
[08:03:08]<AntiNSA>maybe I should liok in install script
[08:03:09]<omega8cc>llwp_: not sure what happened but if you got that errors, adding proper grant should be a quick workaround
[08:03:23]<anarcat>alright
[08:03:27]<anarcat>so 22UTC is still in 1h
[08:03:36]<anarcat>so i'll be at the scrum in 1h
[08:03:43]<anarcat>who else will join in?
[08:03:52]<llwp_>thats not a system user that i see
[08:04:03]<omega8cc>I will join! however nothing to report :/
[08:04:18]<omega8cc>anarcat: ^^
[08:04:28]<llwp_>if its here, i hope to be here in better spirits. with spirits ;)
[08:04:31]<anarcat>shrop? darthsteven? skwashd? mrbaileys? ghankstef? ... others - interested in joining the project? :)
[08:04:33]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: chttps://github.com/omega8cc/css_emimage
[08:04:38]<anarcat>omega8cc: cool :)
[08:04:42]<AntiNSA>thanks
[08:04:42]<omega8cc>ops. https://github.com/omega8cc/css_emimage
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[08:05:12]<ghankstef>sorry wasn;t paying attention knee deep in jquery atm
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[08:05:41]<skwashd>anarcat, which project?
[08:05:46]<ghankstef>not feeling up to speed on aegir development atm - just a user for now - can I help as a user ?
[08:05:49]<omega8cc>lol
[08:05:54]<skwashd>anarcat, or you just want bods for scrum?
[08:05:56]<ghankstef>docs etc..
[08:06:10]<anarcat>skwashd: this things called aegir :)
[08:06:13]<mrbaileys>anarcat: sure, if you've got issues tagged "Novice" I'm happy to jump in :)
[08:06:21]<omega8cc>skwashd: in Texas still?
[08:06:23]<skwashd>anarcat, :P
[08:06:25]<anarcat>mrbaileys: awesome, just what i wanted to hear :)
[08:06:33]<skwashd>anarcat, no time atm ... but i wish i could
[08:06:43]<anarcat>so our scrum is usually at 22UTC, so it's at 18h00EDT etc
[08:07:25]<skwashd>omega8cc, yes
[08:08:04]<omega8cc>skwashd: then enjoy the free Texas country! :)
[08:08:11]<skwashd>lol
[08:08:17]<ghankstef>not up to speed on scrum/agile process (in case that was not obvious) but if you need help from scrum noobs I can help for a while
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[08:16:48]<llwp_>since the access denied is root@host it seems host should be the hostname (and it is) so where is mysql looking to find out where "host" is....? /etc/hosts?
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[08:17:51]<omega8cc>first /etc/hosts and then dns query probably
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[08:19:30]<llwp_>yes i had host under remote ip address... changed to 127 and re-ran hostmaster and we're back...
[08:19:47]<llwp_>dont know why it was like that tho....
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[08:33:35]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: maybe it is fixed already? http://drupal.org/node/1078060#comment-4209654
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[08:37:28]<darthsteven>Did I just miss a scrum? My name was mentioned...
[08:39:44]<anarcat>darthsteven: scrum is in 20 minutes
[08:40:34]<darthsteven>ah okay
[08:40:42]<darthsteven>So they are on Tuesdays now?
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[08:50:56]<anarcat>er
[08:51:07]<anarcat>we're tuesday, that's right
[08:51:19]<anarcat>you know, i don't remember what we decided last week :)
[08:52:52]<darthsteven>:)
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[08:54:46]<anarcat>so right, i confirm it's today
[08:54:48]<anarcat>in 5 minutes
[08:54:53]* anarcat has changed the topic to Aegir hosting system 1.0-rc2 released! http://community.aegirproject.org/1.0-rc2 | Issue queue: http://is.gd/edalY | read this before asking: http://community.aegirproject.org/bugs | scrums on tuesday 2200UTC
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[09:01:02]<anarcat>alright
[09:01:04]<anarcat>scrum time
[09:01:17]<anarcat>mig5 / univate / Vertice / darthsteven / mvc / omega8cc : scrum time
[09:01:25]<omega8cc>hello!
[09:01:25]<hefring>que tal
[09:01:30]<mig5>morning
[09:01:31]<darthsteven>Hello!
[09:01:31]<hefring>hello
[09:01:59]<anarcat>ghankstef / mrbaileys / sfyn_ / shrop / / others i forgot: welcome to our weekly scrum! feel free to jump in!
[09:02:03]<anarcat>so welcome everybody
[09:02:11]<anarcat>we're back from drupalcon! it was an insane week
[09:02:15]<anarcat>so i'll start with that
[09:02:17]<anarcat>crazy
[09:02:19]<anarcat>week
[09:02:21]<omega8cc>and skwashd!
[09:02:22]<anarcat>met a bunch of people
[09:02:26]<anarcat>oh yeah! skwashd !
[09:02:59]<anarcat>even though we didn't have a formal aegir session schedule (which is strange considering there were 5 submitted), we did host 2 bofs and a training session, plus a code sprint
[09:03:13]<anarcat>i met with about 30-40 people to talk about aegir during those session
[09:03:34]<mig5>someone must've been anti-aegir on the organising committee :)
[09:03:35]<anarcat>for me the best session was the roadmap session, of which my coworker mvc posted a summary here: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/488
[09:03:42]<skwashd>anarcat, we should've had 34 at the initimate session alone :)
[09:03:58]<anarcat>mig5: i actually suspect it's because there weren't "big names" submitting a session
[09:04:03]<anarcat>skwashd: that's right!
[09:04:04]<mig5>ah ;)
[09:04:18]<anarcat>and i was late to the intimate aegir session, which sucked, but it was my only "free" day during the whole week
[09:04:24]<anarcat>koumbit *drove* to chicago, which was insane
[09:04:42]<anarcat>1400km one way, so around 3000 km of driving, 30h total...
[09:04:46]<anarcat>lots of fun and spilled coffee
[09:04:57]<anarcat>oh and i scratch the fucking car when parking it in a narrow street
[09:05:04]<anarcat>4500$CAD in damage, believe it or not
[09:05:05]<anarcat>lots of fun
[09:05:06]<anarcat>anyways
[09:05:10]<mig5>haha
[09:05:31]<anarcat>so we're passing the hat to pay for the stupid koumbit van ... ;) (kdding)
[09:05:39]<anarcat>we *almost* got rc2 released
[09:05:49]<anarcat>i was about to push the tags when they cut off power and wifi in the code sprint
[09:06:00]<anarcat>but mig5 ended up doing the last mile on that
[09:06:08]<mig5>sort of
[09:06:26]<anarcat>i personnally met with shrop, cashwilliams, ghankstef, joestewart, and probably others i forget here :)
[09:06:50]<anarcat>i feel that our presence there got people interested in participating in the project and i got that objective at least partially accomplished
[09:07:05]<anarcat>with people comitting to watching and helping in the queues, and i helped people review patches in the code sprint
[09:07:12]<mig5>it sounded like it had a better bof/community spirit than san francisco
[09:07:18]<mig5>which is excellent
[09:07:18]<anarcat>yeah
[09:07:23]<anarcat>we did more BOFs
[09:07:45]<anarcat>i think it's better for us to do BOFs than formal sessions - people know of aegir, we need to make it work now :)
[09:08:09]<anarcat>i closed 10-20 tickets in the issue queue and pissed of eugen again
[09:08:16]* mig5 claps
[09:08:24]<anarcat>we're down to around 5-10 needs review tickets
[09:08:24]<ghankstef>it works great - except for when it doesn;t : ) but when it does its really really great
[09:08:46]<anarcat>this week i am working from home so i am hoping to get more aegir work done than usual
[09:08:56]<anarcat>but so far i'm failing, mostly because of internal poutine again
[09:09:18]<mig5>you've got chips and gravy inside you?
[09:09:19]<mig5>:)
[09:09:20]<anarcat>i hope to get into it tomorrow and get a solid 3 days
[09:09:23]<anarcat>haha
[09:09:28]<anarcat>i mean internal to koumbit :P
[09:09:31]<mig5>:)
[09:09:38]<anarcat>and it's french fries and gravy and cheese, for your information :)
[09:09:46]<anarcat>but enough with quebecois cuisine
[09:09:55]<anarcat>i think i'm done when i start to talk about poutine :)
[09:10:00]<anarcat>ah, yeah
[09:10:14]<anarcat>this week i hope to get working on "i want to run drush on my sites as a regular user"
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[09:10:18]<anarcat>which promises to be a real PITA
[09:10:29]<anarcat>and also working on the 2.x roadmap, after feedback from the community
[09:10:37]<anarcat>so that's it for me - next!
[09:11:03]<mig5>i did nothing except push out rc2, which went horribly wrong, but mostly works
[09:11:05]<mig5>next! :)
[09:11:12]<anarcat>haha
[09:11:25]<anarcat>a bit more on that though - we weren't able to tag hostmaster, because of a bug on d.o
[09:11:41]<anarcat>we're pushing the limits on git and install profiles on d.o, and that's cool for those people, they like us :)
[09:11:48]<anarcat>everybody is quite happy and proud that aegir is back on d.o
[09:11:52]<anarcat>if feels good
[09:11:58]<anarcat>ah and for everyone that contributed to aegir here:
[09:12:06]<anarcat>i had a *lot* of thanks and good feedback on the project
[09:12:08]<anarcat>people *love* aegir
[09:12:16]<anarcat>they are very grateful and thank me for my involvement
[09:12:21]<anarcat>so i want to share that with the team here
[09:12:36]<anarcat>because i couldn't possibly have done this alone, so you all share this credit :)
[09:12:47]<anarcat>mig5: you really should have been there :)
[09:13:10]<mig5>i doubt i'll ever make another drupalcon
[09:13:17]<mig5>the two times of the year are awful for me frankly
[09:13:21]<mig5>anyways
[09:13:28]<anarcat>that's too bad
[09:13:30]<mig5>i'll look at that core dump/segfault issue you're having
[09:13:34]<mig5>i have never reproduced it
[09:13:35]<anarcat>you don't *have* to come twice a year :)
[09:13:40]<mig5>but i feel i understand the *reason* for unconed's patch
[09:13:49]<anarcat>if you have xdebug enabled, it's not a core dump, it's a loop
[09:13:55]<mig5>right
[09:14:08]<mig5>but i've never seen the segfault myself, is what i mean
[09:14:16]<anarcat>yeah
[09:14:21]<anarcat>you need to reference a non-existing platform
[09:14:23]<mig5>unconed explained it was something about the stdin context in drush that caused a loop of loading the @self or @server_msater alias
[09:14:26]<mig5>ahy
[09:14:29]<mig5>ah*
[09:14:53]<mig5>he tried to specifically exclude the @server_master context in his patch, which fixed clusters in this case, but broke install/migrate
[09:15:01]<mig5>anyway, that's for the tickets, i won't noise up the scrum now
[09:15:15]<psynaptic>unconed is doing patches for aegir?
[09:15:23]<mig5>he did briefly
[09:15:28]<psynaptic>recently?
[09:15:29]<mig5>he freaked us all out by admitting he loved aegir
[09:15:31]<mig5>don't tell anyone
[09:15:33]<mig5>:)
[09:15:37]<psynaptic>woah
[09:15:42]<anarcat>alright, anyone else?
[09:15:49]<omega8cc>I did nothing new "inside" the project last week. There are still some Nginx config improvements waiting for review in the queue, but..
[09:15:53]<omega8cc>I released Barracuda and Octopus 1.0-boa-T to celebrate Aegir 1.0-rc2, which introduces support for Squeeze and Maverick, with even more speed improvements, so..
[09:16:03]<omega8cc>I *think* we are already as fast as Mercury (formerly Pantheon) out of the box ;) Seriously, it needs some testing to confirm. That is it from me!
[09:16:26]<anarcat>alright!
[09:16:32]<anarcat>people looking for low-hanging fruits!
[09:16:37]<anarcat>**** THIS IS YOU! ****
[09:16:39]<anarcat>http://drupal.org/project/issues?text=&projects=provision,+hosting,+host...(Aegir)&status=8&priorities=All&categories=All
[09:16:44]<anarcat>this is the "needs review" queue
[09:17:03]<anarcat>what you need to do in there is to pick an issue in there, try to reproduce the issue described
[09:17:03]<skwashd>omega8cc, other way around - mercury is now pantheon
[09:17:12]<anarcat>if you can't reproduce, close the issue (can't reproduce)
[09:17:35]<anarcat>if you can, try to apply the patch to see if it fixes the thing for you, if it does mark it RTBC (ready to be committed), if not, "needs work"
[09:17:42]<anarcat>there is also work to be done in the documentation
[09:17:57]<omega8cc>skwashd: kind of http://groups.drupal.org/node/134204
[09:18:11]<anarcat>we have reworked the manual, actually ergonlogic did
[09:18:16]<anarcat>http://community.aegirproject.org/notebook
[09:19:07]<anarcat>followup on documentation is in the "documentation" category in hostmaster
[09:19:09]<anarcat>see also http://community.aegirproject.org/node/377
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[09:19:27]<anarcat>we specifically need help on the upgrade document
[09:19:33]<anarcat>and reorganising the "using aegir" section
[09:19:46]<anarcat>so if nobody has anything else to add
[09:19:48]<skwashd>omega8cc, interesting
[09:19:53]<anarcat>i think that's it for our scrum this week
[09:20:08]<anarcat>thanks for everyone for attending
[09:20:10]<ghankstef>I will have a look at the upgrade doc see if I can add to it
[09:20:22]<anarcat>ghankstef: alright!
[09:20:32]<ghankstef>Will give me a good excuse to update an old aegir site
[09:20:56]<ghankstef>oh yeah its all empty
[09:21:01]<anarcat>well
[09:21:03]<ghankstef>guess I can improve on that a bit
[09:21:13]<anarcat>it's not really empty - i feel ergonlogic forgot to update the status page
[09:21:20]<anarcat>it seems the UPGRADE.txt was migrated into separate wiki pages
[09:21:23]<mig5>the sub pages are where it's at
[09:21:24]<anarcat>maybe it can be merged in one page
[09:21:27]<mig5>the wrapper page is a bit bare
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[09:21:44]<anarcat>i think we should throw everything in the parent page there
[09:22:17]<omega8cc>and the structure is too deep now
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[09:22:50]<anarcat>alright
[09:22:59]<anarcat>that's it for me folks, going back in my "trying to code" hole :)
[09:23:07]<mig5>thanks all
[09:23:11]<omega8cc>thanks!
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[09:50:54]<anarcat>is somebody pasting the scrum log in the community site?
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[09:51:33]<mig5>i did it already
[09:51:52]<anarcat>mig5: you are marvelous
[09:52:10]<mig5>i am poutine
[09:52:32]<mig5>:)
[09:52:32]<anarcat>haha
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[10:11:20]<realityloop>mig5: you able to come to mentor thing on Sat?
[10:12:03]<realityloop>mig5: http://groups.drupal.org/node/134559
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[10:51:26]<anarcat>mig5: i don't get it - for some reason, that post got written to the db as uid 0, unpublished and not promoted to frontpage - wtf
[10:54:55]<CashWilliams>check it out... I'm trying to get the guy who wrote drushmake.me so you can point Aegir directly to a generated makefile like this one - http://drushmake.me/file.php?token=526cd55edd6a
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[10:55:41]<CashWilliams>you can pin the versions, but I didn't for that one
[10:56:00]<anarcat>haha :)
[10:56:01]<anarcat>nice
[10:56:22]<CashWilliams>how cool would it be if Aegir could generate ITS OWN makefiles!
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[10:57:28]<CashWilliams>iframe?!
[10:57:29]<CashWilliams>:D
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[10:58:50]<anarcat>CashWilliams: maybe if the guy behind drushmake.me could share his could we could embed it in the frontend as a separate wizard to create platforms...<