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[12:57:03]<llwp>irc?
[12:57:39]<bertodsera>ican anyone explain what could be generating a "failed to open dir: Permission denied" error on migration?
[12:58:38]<llwp>I prolly can't but just curious migrate what to what?
[12:58:49]<bertodsera>D6 to D7
[12:59:00]<bertodsera>all modules uninstalled apart from core
[12:59:34]<llwp>what version aegir?
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[13:00:46]<bertodsera>http://pastebin.com/DYgZRKWa
[13:02:23]<bertodsera>can't remember how do I find out aegir's version...
[13:02:35]<llwp>any successful migrations before on this config?
[13:03:13]<bertodsera>yes, but all within same major version
[13:03:19]<bertodsera>loads of them, actually
[13:03:44]<llwp>Figured
[13:03:58]<bertodsera>this is the first experiment at moving a site from D6 to D7
[13:05:04]<bertodsera>the very site I'm trying to migrate was cloned from the real one, which has been migrated at least 3 times for drupal updates
[13:06:33]<llwp>hm..
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[13:08:56]<bertodsera>there's more trouble down the line, during DB migration, but I figured I'd better try and solve the first problems, as at least some of what follows may be dependant from it
[13:09:31]<llwp>whats on command.inc 732? Im not at my computer.. Good thought imho
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[13:10:51]<bertodsera>there is one thing I'm noting... I unistalled CIVICrm before attempting migration, which included getting rid of the tables, yet it still appears to process them
[13:11:03]<bertodsera>let me check line 732
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[13:12:48]<bertodsera>if (is_dir($dir) && $handle = opendir($dir)) {
[13:13:06]<bertodsera>in function drush_scan_directory
[13:13:19]<bertodsera>I have the impression this is civicrm related
[13:14:05]<bertodsera>yet the dir would appear to be drupal-6.20
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[13:15:11]<llwp>I would throw a line into there to log or show the dir it wants to be sure... ive had -dash- directory issues before, too....
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[13:18:16]<bertodsera>okay, in the meantime I found out that some civicrm settings were still around in the site's dir, lemme see what happens after rming them
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[18:57:48]<AntiNSA>APC stats PHP files to determine if they have been updated when apc.stat is set to 1. Disabling updates (set to 0) will increase performance. But web-server restart or call to apc_cache_clear() will be required to update.
[18:58:00]<AntiNSA>hmm I thought that was alread set in Asegir?
[18:58:17]<AntiNSA>should I do this or is tthat stuff hardcoded?
[19:04:02]<AntiNSA>also enabling boost makesmy adsense dissappear?
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[20:11:28]<AntiNSA-AFK>what is the easiest way to disable javascript aggregation only since it is hard coded?
[20:11:28]<hefring>AntiNSA-AFK: 21 hours 17 min ago <omega8cc> tell AntiNSA-AFK - it is "normal" if you see cron last time run not updated in the site status page due to cache/redis enabled, you need to enable syslog module and tail -f /var/log/syslog to watch what happens on site's cron run or clear all caches to see updated last cron on the status page, also, I would suggest using http://drupal.org/project/cron_control to disable/enable cron jobs and see the result (which jobs causes drup
[20:12:14]<AntiNSA-AFK>tell omega8cc it happens when cache module is also disabled
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[22:13:41]<milk_>hmm. will the upgrade script to bad things if one is running php5.3? as i got a "array_keys() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given deploy.provision.inc:84" and a couple more warnings and now Aegir gives a number of "Undefined index: type drush_make.drush.inc:180"s then says it can't find the core on a .make that worked previously. or these could be separate issues..
[22:14:23]<milk_>upgrading from hostmaster-0.4-rc1
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[22:27:06]<parsingphase>Anyone alive who can check the community site? Spam filter's not responding & it won't accept comments.
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[22:31:53]<AntiNSA-AFK>strange things happening ... wiews which re re[eating their oput l;ike they eneed a distinct.... but after disabling cache module its ok...
[22:38:17]<AntiNSA-AFK>it doesnt work behind proxy
[22:42:50]<AntiNSA-AFK>every time I enable it or javascript optimization it makes my cpu useage on my server over or at 100, while its 60-80 with it off.
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[23:05:41]<parsingphase>hefring: tell mig5: Mollom spam filter's currently broken on the community site, won't accept comments
[23:05:41]<hefring>parsingphase: I'll pass that on when mig5 is around.
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[23:13:55]<mig5>.
[23:13:55]<hefring>mig5: 8 min 14 sec ago <parsingphase> tell mig5: Mollom spam filter's currently broken on the community site, won't accept comments
[23:13:57]<mig5>log says All servers unavailable: '--'
[23:13:59]<mig5>Last error: 1200 'Please try the next server in the server list.'
[23:14:04]<mig5>maybe mollom is down
[23:14:07]<parsingphase>ah, joy
[23:14:13]<parsingphase>their site's up :/
[23:14:24]<mig5>well
[23:14:29]<mig5>could be entirely different infrastructure
[23:14:32]<parsingphase>*nds*
[23:14:34]<parsingphase>erm
[23:14:40]<parsingphase>nods, too
[23:14:40]<mig5>is there a status page?
[23:14:48]<parsingphase>*pokes keyboard randomly*
[23:14:53]<parsingphase>couldn't see one
[23:15:22]<parsingphase>nowt on their twitter
[23:17:30]<parsingphase>BTW, you're doing site deployments from command line with profiles?
[23:17:53]<mig5>not really, but i have
[23:18:16]<mig5>http://lists.aegirproject.org/pipermail/aegir/2011-January/000026.html
[23:18:22]<mig5>example commands there
[23:18:49]<mig5>see 'autoamted tests'
[23:18:52]<mig5>automated*
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[23:19:12]<parsingphase>*nods* was using that - works great for platforms, but sites keep resetting their profiles to "default"
[23:19:16]<parsingphase>ok
[23:19:37]<mig5>woeks ok from UI?
[23:19:39]<mig5>when do they reset?
[23:19:41]<parsingphase>yup
[23:20:06]<parsingphase>generates the alias file OK, but the hosting-import (IIRC) seems to reset it
[23:20:26]<parsingphase>possibly during the verify task
[23:20:53]<parsingphase>also the migrate task doesn't seem to get a clean list of profiles when run from CLI.
[23:21:07]<parsingphase>anyway, not gonna be a quick fix so don't let me keep you from sleep
[23:21:09]<mig5>the hosting-import is for the platform
[23:21:26]<parsingphase>and can do most of what I need from web anyway
[23:21:26]<mig5>i don't think migrate is at all possible from cli at the moment (hosting-task doesn't accept arguments, we have a ticket about that)
[23:21:27]<parsingphase>oh
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[23:21:32]<parsingphase>ok
[23:22:03]<parsingphase>yeah I think I tried an alternate route 'round your doc
[23:22:17]<mig5>so you tried something different from 'It Works' ? :)
[23:22:53]<parsingphase>hosting-import does work for sites apart from the profile reset though
[23:22:58]<parsingphase>sadly the "it works", didn't
[23:23:02]<mig5>maybe that's a bug
[23:23:05]<mig5>i didn't try that
[23:23:29]<mig5>you did a provision-save before a hosting-import ? whereby you set the appropriate --profile ?
[23:23:42]<parsingphase>*nods*
[23:23:52]<mig5>we had another bug once, where imported sites had their profile reset, in the UI
[23:24:00]<mig5>when the platform detected a new existing site and tried to import it
[23:24:41]<parsingphase>yeah, think I recall that one
[23:24:57]<siliconmeadow>omega8cc: didn't see you here earlier - just to let you know that the reason my cron jobs weren't running on the site was due to the memcached extension for php wasn't being loaded for php's cli, and therefore drush was giving up on the bootstrap
[23:24:58]<mig5>in my example in that email, that's what i do: i install the site from cli then invoke a verify of the platform, which auto-imports the site
[23:25:21]<mig5>now that i think about it i don't know why i didn't try hosting-import of the site
[23:25:33]<mig5>maybe i subconsciously knew it wouldn't work :D
[23:27:08]<parsingphase>heh
[23:27:21]<parsingphase>I did try and look at the code but it's all Drush MAGICK!
[23:27:46]<mig5>welcome to aegir development
[23:27:54]<mig5>(which is just staring at drush unicorn blood)
[23:28:20]<parsingphase>*nods*
[23:28:42]<parsingphase>heh, already had to put Hg support back in drush make
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[23:29:45]<parsingphase>yup
[23:30:11]<parsingphase>ah, mollom's back
[23:30:16]<parsingphase>you fix that?
[23:30:41]<mig5>nope
[23:30:46]<mig5>mustve been them
[23:30:52]<parsingphase>'k
[23:35:34]<parsingphase>oh, the command-line provision install gave my old favourite bug:
[23:35:35]<parsingphase>: in (line of ). [error]
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[00:06:47]<anarcat>hey mig5, still up?
[00:07:09]<anarcat>mig5: i've got this huge patch i'm scared of committing but that i would love to get in 1.x
[00:07:23]<anarcat>omega8cc: you may want to take a look at this too: https://drupal.org/node/962330#comment-4219602
[00:07:57]<milk>trying to grok/work out a proper dev workflow for git/aegir/drush atm - so working-copy will grab the entire repo, not just the latest, aye? and this has to be done outside aegir, with drush make cli, natch?
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[00:12:56]<anarcat>correct - for some reason provision-verify doesn't propagate --working-copy properly
[00:16:08]<omega8cc>anarcat: seen that and plan to test it shortly, but also scared a bit - some of our users are using those fields so I have to test the upgrade path and will post my results in this issue
[00:16:53]<anarcat>omega8cc: i understand - i tried to make the patch non-destructive (all the data is in the node title) but i could also avoid dropping the fields from the DB in 1.x...
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[00:19:34]<omega8cc>anarcat: yeah, I think there is always a time to drop no longer needed/used fields when we know the new design there works, after some testing, unless it will just work, then dropping all data should be safe
[00:20:03]<anarcat>yeah ok
[00:20:05]<anarcat>i'll do that
[00:20:28]<anarcat>but yeah, i'm looking for feedback here - i'm concerned about the current node structure, the fields don't really make any sense IMHO
[00:22:07]<omega8cc>after all we don't use Aegir for any kind of CRM right now, so yes, these fields are not related to anything
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[00:23:39]<anarcat>omega8cc: by "we" you mean omega8cc or aegir users as a whole?
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[00:26:03]<omega8cc>anarcat: I mean "omega8cc" but it is probably true also for others, also when you are using ubercart, you are using ubercart to store this type of data, not Aegir tables
[00:26:14]<anarcat>yeah
[00:26:30]<omega8cc>the node title should be really enough to store name, description etc and then we need only e-mail and the machine uname
[00:26:33]<anarcat>even if aegir would be storing this data, the fields are so confusing that it's mostly useless
[00:26:42]<omega8cc>yep
[00:26:44]<anarcat>i'm not even sure we need email
[00:26:50]<anarcat>for me there should be typed relations with users
[00:26:58]<omega8cc>right
[00:27:04]<anarcat>so that you have "users" related to the "account" (the client)
[00:27:08]<anarcat>a client is really a group
[00:27:10]<omega8cc>we have e-mail already stored for user
[00:27:27]<omega8cc>we only ned proper relation between client node and user
[00:27:56]<omega8cc>right, so there can be more e-mails, when you have more users attached to client
[00:28:39]<anarcat>yeah
[00:29:00]<omega8cc>so I think you are right, we only need to make sure this change will not destroy data too early (before testing enough)
[00:29:02]<anarcat>see also https://drupal.org/node/461840
[00:29:06]<anarcat>https://drupal.org/node/336068
[00:29:16]<anarcat>yeah okay, i'll drop the dropping of fields
[00:31:18]<omega8cc>this change will really allow us (thanks to machine uname) to set/use/integrate some useful ACL etc
[00:33:46]<anarcat>exactly
[00:33:53]<anarcat>omega8cc: i've been playing with actual filesystem-level ACLs
[00:34:05]<anarcat>my idea is to integrate the frontend with LDAP and the backend with ACLs
[00:34:17]<anarcat>see also http://community.aegirproject.org/node/494
[00:37:32]<omega8cc>anarcat: yep, seen that also, and it would be awesome to have setfacl working here
[00:37:42]<anarcat>omega8cc: i already have code to do that
[00:40:04]<omega8cc>right now I'm using the hackish trick - Aegir system user is separate from Aegir ssh user and non-system user is a member of groups required to have read access to settings.php and drushrc.php, but it is of course not ideal, as there is still no access to aliases for sites belonging to the user
[00:40:45]<omega8cc>anarcat: is it available for testing?
[00:41:01]<anarcat>omega8cc: i have a pastebin :)
[00:41:04]<anarcat>it's really 10 lines of code
[00:41:14]<omega8cc>really? wow
[00:41:16]<anarcat>http://pastebin.com/PKMSFXhA
[00:41:38]<anarcat>i blocked on the "what's the group?" problem, hence the work on the client object
[00:42:20]<omega8cc>amazing
[00:42:56]<omega8cc>I expected it will require much more code :)
[00:43:20]<anarcat>shouldn't
[00:43:23]<anarcat>it's really all it is
[00:43:35]<anarcat>most of the glue is in the frontend
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[00:43:48]<anarcat>in fact, i called this provisionldap, but it should be called provisionacl
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[00:44:03]<omega8cc>are we using acl related flag in rsync already? didn't check that yet
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[00:44:57]<anarcat>omega8cc: good point, not sure
[00:45:29]<omega8cc>we should use --acls
[00:45:30]<anarcat>my guess is we don't (the flag is -A --acl)
[00:45:33]<anarcat>snap :)
[00:45:48]<omega8cc>right
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[01:43:32]<aegirfan>Unable to clone hostmaster from [error]
[01:43:32]<aegirfan>http://git.drupal.org/project/hostmaster.git.
[01:43:33]<aegirfan>An error occurred at function : drush_drush_make_make
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[01:44:40]<aegirfan>trying to upgrade from beta2 to rc2 anyone know why it's failing?
[01:45:50]<aegirfan>ive tried both manual and the update script
[01:45:55]<aegirfan>I've updated the last 4 releases without any problems
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[01:50:36]<aegirfan>ill be lurking so just drop me a line if you can help thanks
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[02:00:23]<omega8cc>hefring: tell siliconmeadow: interesting, I don't use memcache or redis for php-cli, so drush always access db directly, and it works for cron etc w/o issues
[02:00:23]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when siliconmeadow is around.
[02:04:08]<siliconmeadow>omega8cc: it's all fine now :-)
[02:04:08]<hefring>siliconmeadow: 3 min 45 sec ago <omega8cc> tell siliconmeadow: interesting, I don't use memcache or redis for php-cli, so drush always access db directly, and it works for cron etc w/o issues
[02:05:05]<omega8cc>siliconmeadow: nice!
[02:06:36]<siliconmeadow>so, hefring is the aegir bot?
[02:07:51]<siliconmeadow>ah yes more Norse mythology ;-)
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[02:09:31]<omega8cc>siliconmeadow: yes, it is our dedicated bot, thanks to mig5 :)
[02:09:44]<omega8cc>so this channel is logged
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[02:10:16]<omega8cc>http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir
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[03:07:23]<FatGuyLaughing>Are there any known issues for using a Base theme like Zen and adding that to a profile, then when creating the sub-themes for each site putting those themes in the site's theme folder?
[03:07:29]<FatGuyLaughing>themes folder?*
[03:08:07]<AntiNSA-AFK>Im havign a strange problem and I think it is related to the cron problem...
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[03:09:12]<AntiNSA-AFK>I have new menu ites, and anonymous uses cant see them... I have no caching module enabled, and I think the cache is rebuilt on a cron run? But I flushed the cache and I cant find any permissions for menus yet I cant get my menus to be show to anonymous users...
[03:09:49]<AntiNSA-AFK>I think its because I cant run cron and menus are not getting rebuilt?
[03:10:34]<AntiNSA-AFK>ah finally
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[03:11:50]<AntiNSA-AFK>ok here is a different question related to chron, the guy who wrote the feeds module also has written a drupal queue module that I think works great with thte very popular feeds module and allows chron runs to run better together and stuff. Im not to sure about the magic behind it, but its called drupal-queue
[03:13:15]<AntiNSA-AFK>and the newest head iss trange. its awesome because I can finally migrate, but it is lower I think ( I cant tell exactly heavy internet blocking going on) there is the issue that my adsense adds are not getting shown with anonymous users a lot
[03:13:33]<AntiNSA-AFK>maybe not the newest head, from the night before last.
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[03:14:43]<AntiNSA-AFK>does the php timeout affect adsense not being shown for anonymous users? I noticed in the head Im using it is set to 300 and 600 which is way faster than it was set to like a month ago
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[03:19:34]<anarcat>omega8cc: please test this: https://drupal.org/node/962330#comment-4223732
[03:20:43]<mig5>anarcat: i *read* the patch and it made sense and i have no problem with the idea :) i'll test it later today (3am here, thanks nagios)
[03:21:37]<anarcat>mig5: whee
[03:21:39]<mig5>a user DOS'd a site of ours by using IE 5 and choosing 'save this site for offline browsing', epic
[03:21:42]<anarcat>mig5: i rerolled everything in a branch now
[03:21:45]<mig5>that was a good one
[03:21:48]<anarcat>haha
[03:21:51]<anarcat>wow, weak
[03:22:25]<mig5>yep
[03:23:53]<mig5>alright, back to bed
[03:24:38]<anarcat>gn
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[03:32:57]<omega8cc>anarcat: will test it today
[03:36:01]<omega8cc>AntiNSA-AFK: there is now extra cache enabled on the web server level for anonymous visitors, with 10 min purge time hardcoded right now, but you can turn it off: https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/blob/master/aegir/conf/setu... or use the "dev" subdomain to disable it on the fly
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[03:39:07]<omega8cc>or turn it off completely on Octopus install or upgrade: https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/blob/master/OCTOPUS.sh.txt#L94
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[03:58:06]<FatGuyLaughing>Are there any known issues for using a Base theme like Zen and adding that to a profile, then when creating the sub-themes for each site putting and those themes in the site specific theme folder?
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[04:20:27]<anarcat>omega8cc: i have found some issues in the client form i am workin on it now
[04:22:44]<AntiNSA-AFK>thanks
[04:23:22]<omega8cc>anarcat: I didn't try it yet, but thanks for the heads up
[04:23:40]<AntiNSA-AFK>do you know about the drupal_queue module?
[04:24:05]<AntiNSA-AFK>it would be great if it was part of octopus
[04:33:20]<omega8cc>AntiNSA-AFK: it will not work in the non-fallback mode, for the same reason as supercron will not work (I think) as it needs to fire up alternate php file and Aegir runs cron for sites using Drush by default (the cron.php method works only for d5 and d6 core), furthermore, adding support for non-standard cron is unlikely to happen, as it would require patching Aegir core, not just extra Octopus configuration
[04:33:57]<AntiNSA-AFK>ok
[04:34:02]<AntiNSA-AFK>thanks
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[04:43:29]<anarcat>omega8cc: fixed. the forms should work well now. i'll update the ticket
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[05:10:14]<hefring>community => AEgir and CiviCRM => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/495
[05:14:07]<anarcat>mig5 / omega8cc / EclipseGc / Vertice / univate / others: feedback appreciated: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/496
[05:22:04]<AntiNSA-AFK>when we create that empty directory, does it need to be any name to disable speedbooster?
[05:23:13]<AntiNSA-AFK>also I am not using ubercart module, so we should create that too?
[05:23:56]* anarcat enabled snapshot releases on provision's stable branch
[05:24:05]<AntiNSA-AFK>so ites/all/modules/ubercart/ with empty README.txt or s ?ites/all/modules/ubercart/emptydir with empty README.txt
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[05:28:08]<hefring>community => Freeze exception to refactor the client node type? => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/496
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[05:30:31]<AntiNSA-AFK>I created ubercart module and put an empty README.txt inside. Not sure if I was supposed to create an empty dir in that bu I guess not.
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[05:32:14]<omega8cc>AntiNSA-AFK: please read updated how-to: https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/blob/master/OCTOPUS.sh.txt#L94
[05:34:13]<AntiNSA-AFK>like an easter egg. I dont know why but it seems most caching modules do the opposite to my site... trying to girue it out. After doing that shout we restart nginx?
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[05:37:24]<omega8cc>AntiNSA-AFK: no
[05:39:10]<omega8cc>AntiNSA-AFK: also, disable cookie_cache_bypass if enabled
[05:39:40]<AntiNSA-AFK>yeah that always makes things slower
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[05:40:23]<AntiNSA-AFK>I can see my server cpu is now back down to around40%
[05:40:26]<omega8cc>in fact, this module disables all caches silently
[05:40:43]<omega8cc>we will remove it completely to avoid confusion
[05:41:18]<AntiNSA-AFK>its rteally difficult day to tet things as the internet has been blocked real hard all day.
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[05:42:32]<AntiNSA-AFK>I dont know if its the net but the head version from like 2 days ago seems alot faster
[05:43:37]<omega8cc>now it should be even faster, unless you have something enabled what breaks/disables caching
[05:44:33]<AntiNSA-AFK>I know. I dont know why I have disabled even more things since the last head and cleaned up my sql queroes...
[05:44:43]<AntiNSA-AFK>bad luck
[05:46:36]<AntiNSA-AFK>the opnly difference is I couldnt use the migrate module to inport the database and had to do it manually from one that was backed up with the migrate module from the earlier head. I dont know if the migrate module does something nice to clean up the database that I sohould have done when importing perhaps.
[05:47:53]<AntiNSA-AFK>on the previous version I did use the migrate module to import a site. so maybe that wasit.
[05:49:34]<AntiNSA-AFK>loggin in and out was REALLY slower for some reason...
[05:52:11]<AntiNSA-AFK>wow thank you soooo much it is snappy again!
[05:52:15]<AntiNSA-AFK>:)
[05:52:31]<AntiNSA-AFK>sooo wonderful!
[05:53:16]<AntiNSA-AFK>well Ill check it out over the next 6 hours
[05:53:45]<AntiNSA-AFK>dont want to jump the gung.
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[06:02:24]<AntiNSA-AFK>FASSSSTTT!!! So far I feel great now!
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[06:30:02]<Met4physica>omega8cc - is it a good time to update everything
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[06:37:57]<anarcat>hop! sending emails to the logged in user now: https://drupal.org/node/336068#comment-4224836
[06:39:13]<aegirfan>hmm looks like my upgrade problems are due to git migration
[06:39:15]<aegirfan>doh
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[06:47:51]<AntiNSA-AFK>Is there any clear reason why adsense would not be workign a lot with anonymous users on this build when caching is disabled weven?
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[07:47:24]<omega8cc>Met4physica: yes, but read notes about speed booster in the Octopus comments
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[09:16:32]<anarcat>mig5: you there?
[09:16:42]<anarcat>mig5: i'm hacking deep into provision :)
[09:16:47]<anarcat>well, not "context" deep, but still
[09:17:04]<anarcat>that old "email not being sent bug" - i will solve it once and for all, even if it's fixed :P
[09:17:10]<anarcat>in fact, i'm making that stupid email optional
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[09:29:24]<mig5>wheee
[09:29:44]<mig5>rewrite the spoke model while you're there, kthx
[09:31:59]<anarcat>np
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[09:33:04]<anarcat>basterd hosting-task doesn't pass arguments all the way down to provision-install anymore
[09:33:08]<anarcat>only to provision-save
[09:33:17]<anarcat>which means you can't send down one-time arguments like, say, the client_email
[09:33:22]<anarcat>it *needs* to be stored in the backend
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[09:36:43]<anarcat>Function ereg() is deprecated file.inc:941 [3.95 sec, 31.92 MB] [notice]
[09:36:48]<anarcat>can't stand this one anymore
[09:38:34]<mig5>as if run php 5.3 though :)
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[09:42:50]<Met4physica>what is speed booster btw?
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[09:47:20]<anarcat>mig5: i got it!
[09:47:33]<anarcat>mig5: it's *options* instead of *context_options*
[09:47:39]<anarcat>bloody hell this needs docs
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[10:40:11]<hefring>community => Upgrade to Debian Squeeze? => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/498
[10:40:30]<omega8cc>Met4physica: https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/blob/master/OCTOPUS.sh.txt#L94
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