| [11:00:26] | <AntiNSA> | when enabling boost, whats the best settings for octopus, and what about this in the ststus APC stats PHP files to determine if they have been updated when apc.stat is set to 1. Disabling updates (set to 0) will increase performance. But web-server restart or call to apc_cache_clear() will be required to update. |
| [11:00:33] | <AntiNSA> | should we ignore that? |
| [11:05:58] | <AntiNSA> | any idea how to save adsense? I need money one day to feed my children. It seems anonymous kills adsense alot? |
| [11:06:10] | <AntiNSA> | anyone notice that? |
| [11:06:23] | <Deezire> | How to save adsense? Elaborate. |
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| [11:19:31] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: the Ad module is using ajax calls to its own php script, so it works also on cached pages, as ajax stays dynamically loaded, maybe you need to adjust something in your site settings, no idea |
| [11:22:16] | <vegardx> | you might also need to let some cookies through varnish |
| [11:27:58] | <omega8cc> | vegardx: there is no Varnish in this setup |
| [11:28:17] | <AntiNSA> | it works now. |
| [11:28:31] | <vegardx> | omega8cc: ah |
| [11:28:42] | <omega8cc> | and any custom cookies are send as -is, for example for ubercart |
| [11:29:00] | <vegardx> | (also, something does not "work now" either you altered something or it worked from the start) |
| [11:29:09] | <AntiNSA> | so awesome. I odotn know what you did, or if it will slow down after 12 hours, or if the chinese government is just being extra nice to the citizen, but I have never seen my sirte so fast. and I have bnever seen any caching modules do better. Only worse. |
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| [11:29:41] | <AntiNSA> | winner winner chicken dinner,. |
| [11:29:47] | <AntiNSA> | very super cool. |
| [11:29:48] | <vegardx> | Well, generally adding more stuff to bootstrap will decrease speed. |
| [11:30:35] | <AntiNSA> | every single time the caching modules destroeyd and degraded things. I am wondering if it is flying because it is a fresh migration... not sure. if it stays like this I could never ask for more.. |
| [11:30:53] | <AntiNSA> | this head version is the best ever since 12/28 |
| [11:31:42] | <AntiNSA> | wowowow it is the only time my cpu has ever been to 60 with caching modules enabled |
| [11:31:47] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: just make sure to not enable the pressflow cookie cache bypass module, because it kills the cache |
| [11:32:39] | <AntiNSA> | never I am happy you got rid of it. I added the version of head from like an hour ago because I messed up the database and had to redo things. |
| [11:32:49] | <omega8cc> | anyway, we removed this module from all platforms now, to avoid issues |
| [11:33:34] | <AntiNSA> | I can never tell with the govt blocking everything in the world lately, but looking at my server cpu use with cache, boost and path alias cache enabled cpu resource is at 60 which is awesome |
| [11:33:48] | <AntiNSA> | yeah I see you removed it. |
| [11:34:04] | <AntiNSA> | I am considering enabling the ajax block cache... |
| [11:34:13] | <omega8cc> | yeah, Barracuda is now much much faster than ever |
| [11:34:36] | <AntiNSA> | I am scared to because it aklwys was so terrible. I am scared it will mess up my site and even if I uninstall it it will screw up the speed there now. |
| [11:34:47] | <AntiNSA> | smokin. |
| [11:35:40] | <AntiNSA> | I used to think pantheon was fast , but it would also go down after like an hour running... but this blows it away.... the last head was crazy long taking forever to log in and out,,, |
| [11:36:13] | <AntiNSA> | for registered users it seems nearly as fast as anonymous. maybe its the government opening the throttle here Ill have to see how it is after a day..... |
| [11:36:39] | <AntiNSA> | feel l;ike going from 1995 to 2005 |
| [11:36:45] | <omega8cc> | haha, no, it is a Barracuda speed |
| [11:38:04] | <AntiNSA> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpkitLUbeEg |
| [11:40:33] | <AntiNSA> | thanks super much. |
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| [11:48:49] | <omega8cc> | yeah, The Rock |
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| [12:15:43] | <AntiNSA> | hmmm... noticed that when submitting posts post is submitted but take a long time and doesnt refresh to post page... must be relatet to caching |
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| [12:28:52] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: Barracuda caching will help a lot, but it will not magically fix not optimized properly site configuration, have you added already indexes suggested by DB Tuner? |
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| [12:29:35] | <omega8cc> | also, are you using latest dev version of Views? the 'stable' has serious memory leaks |
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| [12:32:31] | <LunkRat> | aegir newb here, trying to install for the first time on a fresh ubuntu 10.10 |
| [12:32:37] | <LunkRat> | irc newb too ;} |
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| [12:33:47] | <LunkRat> | stuck at running the script |
| [12:33:49] | <LunkRat> | sudo su -s /bin/sh aegir -c "sh install.sh" |
| [12:34:09] | <vegardx> | What error do you get? |
| [12:34:13] | <LunkRat> | bombs with this |
| [12:34:16] | <LunkRat> | The external command could not be executed due to an application [error] |
| [12:34:18] | <LunkRat> | error. |
| [12:34:20] | <LunkRat> | could not find driver [error] |
| [12:34:22] | <LunkRat> | Drush command could not be completed. [error] |
| [12:34:24] | <LunkRat> | Output from failed command : [error] |
| [12:34:26] | <LunkRat> | |
| [12:34:28] | <LunkRat> | Fatal error: Call to a member function quote() on a non-object in |
| [12:34:30] | <LunkRat> | /var/aegir/.drush/provision/db/db.drush.inc on line 326 |
| [12:34:34] | <LunkRat> | Output from failed command : [error] |
| [12:34:36] | <LunkRat> | |
| [12:34:36] | <vegardx> | also, pastebin it |
| [12:34:38] | <LunkRat> | [sudo] password for aegir: |
| [12:34:48] | <LunkRat> | oh sorry |
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| [12:36:00] | <LunkRat> | http://pastebin.com/4aHWVc3E |
| [12:36:11] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: it should be fast even with disabled speed booster for logged in users if this causes issues, but if there is anything to fix, please submit an issue, ah, there is cool extension for chrome: https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/wiki |
| [12:36:52] | <vegardx> | LunkRat: from where you issue the command to where it ends |
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| [12:38:36] | <AntiNSA> | thanks I will check it out. my site is so much not ready but you can see barracuda @ thecenterofthenet.com its so fast... thank you so much (now Ihave a ton of other work to do on it) |
| [12:38:58] | <vegardx> | supah slow here |
| [12:39:13] | <LunkRat> | http://pastebin.com/TywKF9h3 |
| [12:39:17] | <AntiNSA> | wow its flying here... |
| [12:39:39] | <vegardx> | How many unique hits do you have each day, AntiNSA? |
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| [12:40:33] | <AntiNSA> | right now this is for a clsed project with a test group of about 300 students. |
| [12:40:37] | <vegardx> | hm, i have no idea, have you installed drush via apt? |
| [12:40:44] | <AntiNSA> | in the previous test group we had 650 students... |
| [12:41:31] | <LunkRat> | nope i just installed a fresh image and then did LAMP according to http://community.aegirproject.org/node/390 |
| [12:41:58] | <LunkRat> | no drush via apt |
| [12:42:20] | <AntiNSA> | it was a big problem running quizes and stuff... lots of custom content. A year and ahalf later tryihg to make it moroe scaleable... the thing is I could instantly have more than 40,000 college students just tear it up and kill everything so hopefully no one will come untill the server can handle it and we can get some money for a big server first |
| [12:42:22] | <vegardx> | woah, the docs have gotten smoother since last time i touched it |
| [12:43:50] | <LunkRat> | why does it ask for aegir user sudo passwd? |
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| [12:44:20] | <LunkRat> | maybe I f'd up the step with the sudoers file? |
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| [12:52:03] | <vegardx> | I have no idea, read the supplied docs that ships with Aegir |
| [12:52:18] | <vegardx> | they actually seem to be a lot better than those on the website. |
| [12:52:41] | <LunkRat> | oh, damn, ok I will pull them up |
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| [12:53:49] | <mig5> | 'could not find driver'. so you are missing php5-mysql |
| [12:54:26] | <mig5> | all the dependencies are in the doc per http://community.aegirproject.org/node/389 |
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| [13:00:50] | <boztek> | Anyone aware of a good place to hook into the clone action so that I can have dev clones scrub the db ala drush sql-sync --sanitize ? |
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| [13:06:06] | <LunkRat> | @mig5 hah good point php5-mysql is probably important ... |
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| [13:29:09] | <LunkRat> | user aegir is not allowed to execute |
| [13:29:11] | <LunkRat> | '/usr/sbin/apache2ctl graceful' |
| [13:29:32] | <LunkRat> | i must have aegir perms messed up |
| [13:29:35] | <LunkRat> | or not set |
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| [13:47:24] | <AntiNSA> | it was boost that was csuing the posts to not refresh. |
| [13:48:22] | <LunkRat> | hah! silly. OK my sudoers file needed apache2ctl not apachectl |
| [13:48:46] | <LunkRat> | and my MySQL root password had @ symbols in it |
| [13:50:50] | <LunkRat> | so . . . got install.sh to run through but I got errors at the end: http://pastebin.com/XRdb2a4X |
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| [13:57:38] | <mig5> | so install an MTA |
| [13:57:51] | <mig5> | seriously, all our install docs have all the commands you can copy and paste to avoid these issues |
| [13:58:02] | <mig5> | install postfix or sendmail or similar |
| [13:58:23] | <mig5> | apt-get install apache2 php5 php5-cli php5-gd php5-mysql postfix sudo rsync git-core unzip |
| [13:58:52] | <vegardx> | hm, maybe i should make a linode stackscript for aegir |
| [14:01:32] | <LunkRat> | i'm sorry I did not see those dependencies listed in install doc ... I'm going from http://community.aegirproject.org/node/17 |
| [14:02:40] | <LunkRat> | ok i see them at node/394 sorry |
| [14:04:12] | <AntiNSA> | wo needs a script its as easy as could be already isnt it? |
| [14:05:41] | <LunkRat> | yeah it's easy just missed it in the doc |
| [14:07:54] | <LunkRat> | how do I re-run the script now that I have the dependencies? right now I get |
| [14:07:58] | <LunkRat> | http://pastebin.com/pxx8HdQb |
| [14:09:21] | <AntiNSA> | i mean a linode stack script |
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| [14:14:20] | <LunkRat> | so . . . what to do when install.sh partially finished and won't run again? |
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| [14:31:50] | <LunkRat> | rats I just get this http://pastebin.com/rgcFuM3N |
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| [14:33:38] | <LunkRat> | sorry for my newb-never-installed-or-used-aegir questions |
| [14:33:58] | <LunkRat> | i'm excited to learn the tool |
| [14:43:25] | <LunkRat> | i went to myserver.example.com/aegir and I get the drupal install screen with hostmaster profile |
| [14:43:36] | <LunkRat> | is that good? or bad? |
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| [18:22:07] | <omega8cc> | mig5: http://drupal.org/node/1098304 |
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| [23:51:54] | <AntiNSA> | hey just out of curiosity, does barracuda octopus come with a defense against DOS attacks? |
| [23:52:07] | <AntiNSA> | and other type nonsense? |
| [23:53:33] | <AntiNSA> | also, I can see the speed from this mornign is dimenished... any ideas wha t could running 8 hours cuse speed to deteriorate? Any temp files I can periodically delete? |
| [23:56:49] | <AntiNSA> | I would like to make sure my server is protected..... |
| [23:58:24] | <pkej> | AntiNSA: A question how fast did barracuda seem to be this morning compared to a pressflow or ordinary drupal site? I've been pondering an install of it. I understand it uses nginx, right? |
| [23:58:41] | <pkej> | (among a lot of other stuff not part of the standard aegir) |
| [23:59:09] | <pkej> | AntiNSA: I have a dedicated firewall computer in front of my network, it has DOS protection |
| [23:59:36] | <AntiNSA> | I have only the experiance using pressflow on pantheon. Pantheon seems nice at first but degrades really quickly everytime I try and takes much more server cpu. |
| [23:59:55] | <AntiNSA> | I thin that memcache might be the reason but really have no idea. |
| [00:00:47] | <AntiNSA> | Im using linode, and am really new to managing my own server.... just wanted to see if there is some sort of out of the box anti dos tyoe service for barracuda |
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| [00:19:46] | <AntiNSA> | things like removingcck fields from content types make the server crawl for a strange reason. |
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| [00:55:00] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: yes, Barracuda comes with AntiDOS out of the box ;) it is mentioned in the readme, btw |
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| [00:57:43] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: if your site performance degrades, it means you have something seriously wrong in your modules/config, you need to debug it with devel module maybe, also by watching db tables size - which are growing too fast etc, as it is probably some memory/cache leak (in Views, in the Views calendar - if you enabled cache in Views etc) |
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| [01:08:06] | <LunkRat> | is there a re-install script? ;) |
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| [01:34:55] | <AntiNSA> | is it bad to enable views caching the same time caching is enabled or better not too? |
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| [02:05:31] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: try to not use caching in views at all, and upgrade to latest dev |
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| [02:10:05] | <omega8cc> | I tested it on some big/busy sites we manage and enabling caching in Views, or worse yet, in Panels, always killed global performance, as it adds more levels of caches, and those caches kills each other very easily |
| [02:12:31] | <AntiNSA> | so you think disable the caching within views, and within panels then is the best way to go? |
| [02:12:59] | <AntiNSA> | thats a lot of views and panels to go through, but it that will help then I absolutely will do that right now |
| [02:18:29] | <AntiNSA> | It also seems more logical that caching upon caching upon caching is a mistake... |
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| [02:50:00] | <AntiNSA> | disabling cahcing... cpu resource 150-250% :( |
| [02:50:15] | <AntiNSA> | boost/cace/pathalis cache enabled |
| [02:56:13] | <AntiNSA> | 300% cpu |
| [02:56:16] | <AntiNSA> | wow |
| [02:56:23] | <AntiNSA> | its burning up in here. |
| [02:57:09] | <AntiNSA> | I am dead. |
| [02:57:30] | <AntiNSA> | you sure diabling views cachng helped you? |
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| [03:18:33] | <AntiNSA> | my cpu is skyrocketing after disabling caching on views. is there anyone else in here which believes to disable caching in views and panels and yet aegir do all caching? |
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| [03:21:43] | <AntiNSA> | I think I will try to back up my database and reinstall it to see if the tables dropped from the back up migrate module will be rebuilt better with no cahing in view enbaled |
| [03:22:06] | <AntiNSA> | maybe I have old caching table in the database that dont get emptied on drush cc |
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| [03:41:30] | <AntiNSA> | http://groups.drupal.org/node/135704#comment-442919 |
| [03:44:20] | <vegardx> | I hate to be the one to tell you this: You are far far far too unexperienced to be playing with any of this. Take some time and LEARN how/what things are doing, instead of wasting our time with meaningless questions. Also, you frequently flood the message board with stupid questions. |
| [03:44:56] | <AntiNSA> | when disabling and uninstalling boost it says to make sure to remove the rules from the .htaccess file. in barracuda do we have to do that? I have so many .htaccess files, I am not sure which one that I should edit. |
| [03:45:21] | <AntiNSA> | I have spent more than 2 years learning drupal. |
| [03:45:43] | <vegardx> | Then spend atleast two more years about sysadmin. |
| [03:45:45] | <AntiNSA> | caching is a tupid question? We have 3 caching options or more. |
| [03:46:36] | <AntiNSA> | omega is the first person to tell me that disabling views caching was a good thing when caching with barracuda. I respect her advice a lot. |
| [03:46:38] | <vegardx> | It's not a stupid question, but generally you never seem to be able to communicate what the problem really is. And if you actually knew what was going on on the backend you /might/ be able to solve most of the issues you're having by your self. |
| [03:46:55] | <vegardx> | Also, a site with 600 users can hardly create any load unless you do something seriously wrong. |
| [03:48:59] | <AntiNSA> | perhaps I am pushibng drupal seriously hard. |
| [03:49:11] | <vegardx> | Or you are doing something seriously wrong. |
| [03:49:28] | <AntiNSA> | yes. MAybe. But I have done my best to rack what that might be. |
| [03:49:44] | <AntiNSA> | no distincts, checked query times created in views, etc. |
| [03:50:01] | <AntiNSA> | I am trying to find the problem. |
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| [03:51:31] | <AntiNSA> | .001/pressflow/.htaccess has the boost infromation, I assume the drush message which said to remove the boost info from the .htaccess file was talking about that one. I will remove it unless barracuda is hardwired no to mess with it. |
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| [03:52:29] | <AntiNSA> | there was someone in here asking before if there was a reinstall script for aegir. I thought it was a stupid question, but am not in their face about it. |
| [03:54:49] | <AntiNSA> | believe me I wish I had the cache to paysomeone to take all this pain away :) |
| [04:00:40] | <EclipseGc> | so... the files tables for these sites should get updated to the new site names if I clone a site right? |
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| [04:06:26] | <AntiNSA> | wow taking the booststuff out of that .htaccess made a noticeable difference |
| [04:07:07] | <AntiNSA> | maybe helpfull info for the readme file? more than just enabling and disabling as the email said on account creaiton |
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| [04:10:52] | <AntiNSA> | cpu use down to 30% after editing that .htaccess... unbelievable.... |
| [04:11:45] | <omega8cc> | EclipseGc: yes, but you need Drush 3.3 or 4.4, since it doesn't work with Drush 4 lower than 4.3 |
| [04:12:40] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: Nginx/Barracuda doesn't use .htaccess at all, it is an Apache stuff, irrelevant in this context |
| [04:12:52] | <EclipseGc> | omega8cc: yeah, I think there may have been an issue in rc1 on this, we just upgraded to rc2 and tried and everything worked as expected |
| [04:13:03] | <omega8cc> | yep |
| [04:13:10] | <EclipseGc> | omega8cc: awesome |
| [04:13:11] | <AntiNSA> | I thought I remember nginx doesnt use that too..... |
| [04:13:50] | <AntiNSA> | Im telling you after editing that one file my server cpu after an hour of hell is down to like unheard of 20-30% cpu use |
| [04:14:31] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: interesting but for sure unrelated |
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| [04:15:01] | <AntiNSA> | ok does barracuda have any kind of anti dos tyoe protection? |
| [04:15:21] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: yes. I wrote about it above, a few hours ago |
| [04:16:10] | <AntiNSA> | ok |
| [04:16:23] | <AntiNSA> | I am disabling views sitewide now cache |
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| [04:22:14] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: maybe you should study (but not post anything!) http://groups.drupal.org/high-performance to find some help in debugging your performance issues, as it sounds you are doing something wrong there and trying my tips without understanding the big picture can only confuse you further, aaaaand it is *not* related to Aegir/Barracuda/Nginx/Mercury/PantheonWhatever at all. |
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| [04:23:12] | <AntiNSA> | a lot of what I have learned from you guys in the past three months has really helped alot I am almost there. thanks for your great advice and sorry for the hardships my questions have caused. |
| [04:23:30] | <AntiNSA> | its like relearning drupal from the start. |
| [04:24:02] | <AntiNSA> | my journey is almost finished. |
| [04:24:28] | <AntiNSA> | then 2012 will be here and it will all have been for nothing. |
| [04:27:34] | <AntiNSA> | I think you should advise to disable views in the readme. All other times Ive asked before everywone was the other wa y on it .; its really usefull knowledge |
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| [04:33:48] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: it is stuff not related to this project, it is simply drupal performance related, also have you tried newer Views? the dev version includes important fix for memory leaks, see http://drupal.org/node/988680 |
| [04:34:07] | <AntiNSA> | I am always using the lates 6.3x ddev |
| [04:34:13] | <omega8cc> | ok |
| [04:34:42] | <AntiNSA> | I think its really useful. If I was just using standrad drupal I would definately enable the caching. |
| [04:35:10] | <omega8cc> | then you have this fix, but you can have also some unknown (yet) bugs there |
| [04:35:50] | <omega8cc> | it is the price for using dev version, of course |
| [04:36:17] | <AntiNSA> | yes |
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| [04:49:22] | <Met4physica> | AntiNSA - this is random, but I found a post from you on d.org when I was researching how to make jquery tooltip mouseovers for ubercart |
| [04:49:24] | <Met4physica> | did you figure that out? |
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| [05:25:49] | <cmcintosh> | hey gang |
| [05:25:53] | <cmcintosh> | how things been going |
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| [05:41:37] | <cmcintosh> | everyone is sleeping |
| [05:41:38] | <cmcintosh> | lol |
| [05:42:12] | <joestewart> | cmcintosh: pm? |
| [05:43:43] | <cmcintosh> | yea sure |
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| [06:07:05] | <AntiNSA> | Met4physica: I didnt try it for ubercart, I was trying to use it for +- links for nodequeue, I fount this module beauty tips I think it was called that is helpful, but I didnt have time to follow that through. |
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| [06:07:35] | <Met4physica> | ok, i just used lightbox and a views formatter |
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| [06:21:42] | <AntiNSA> | dont have time to get into that... but I need to go down that road eventually |
| [06:22:27] | <AntiNSA> | dearst omegga, are the settings as boost is inabled already optimal for ocopus/barracuda, or should we tweak them? Is it sufficient to just enable the module? |
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| [06:23:19] | <AntiNSA> | I think I had found the reason for my problems, db tuner still wont run to show me my indexes, but I had several panels looking for the same content tyoes ( I have lots of panels.... :( ) fixed them. |
| [06:24:35] | <AntiNSA> | IIf you edit the .htacces to remove the boost settings and then renable boostthen it breaks site layout, so it looks as though boost is doing something even in nginx wiht the htaccess file |
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| [06:28:20] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: before disabling Boost you need to purge Boost cache, otherwise the old cache files will be served forever. You could also empty the "cache" directory in your platform root, however it is completely unrelated to the .htaccess file |
| [06:31:00] | <AntiNSA> | awesome good info to know thanks! I was just trying to renable boost to test it since I fixed the panels trying for the same content to see if I found the problem and saw after removing the rewrite stuff from the .htaccess that the layout was broken so im butting it back in there to try it out. |
| [06:31:20] | <omega8cc> | also, avoid Panels, if possible, they are nice for the front-end people, but they can easily kill any server when over-used |
| [06:32:32] | <AntiNSA> | Ah I wish I could avoid them.... |
| [06:32:58] | <AntiNSA> | hardly anytime to do layout stylre design and such... |
| [06:34:04] | <AntiNSA> | sso clear caches does not purge the boost cache too? |
| [06:34:10] | <omega8cc> | you can, using good theme with regions, context, spaces etc |
| [06:34:14] | <omega8cc> | by default no |
| [06:34:38] | <omega8cc> | there is a switch to enable it in the Boost config |
| [06:35:00] | <AntiNSA> | thanks |
| [06:35:09] | <AntiNSA> | I will try to get away from panels |
| [06:35:17] | <AntiNSA> | that switch could be usefull |
| [06:36:06] | <omega8cc> | also, when you have enabled speed booster, you don't need Boost |
| [06:36:46] | <AntiNSA> | you mean when enabled speed booster, which is what is in the inital set up set to on, then boost is redundant? |
| [06:36:57] | <omega8cc> | yes |
| [06:37:06] | <AntiNSA> | speed booster contains no module iteslf in the drupal interface |
| [06:37:12] | <AntiNSA> | ? |
| [06:37:14] | <AntiNSA> | pl |
| [06:37:16] | <AntiNSA> | ok |
| [06:37:20] | <AntiNSA> | thats great |
| [06:37:30] | <AntiNSA> | I will remove boost |
| [06:37:36] | <AntiNSA> | I thought they worked together |
| [06:37:45] | <AntiNSA> | much better to only have one thing |
| [06:38:15] | <omega8cc> | yes, it has hardcoded cache valid for 8 minutes by default, it is not ideal, but probably good for most of anonymous traffic |
| [06:39:20] | <AntiNSA> | so boost does nothing for registered users too, right? |
| [06:39:44] | <omega8cc> | exactly, nothing |
| [06:40:25] | <omega8cc> | the cache module is designed to speed up things for logged in users |
| [06:40:45] | <omega8cc> | using memcache + redis |
| [06:40:55] | <AntiNSA> | thats really important... you guys should enable that with speedbooster as one module |
| [06:41:00] | <AntiNSA> | memcache... |
| [06:41:11] | <AntiNSA> | I think that was a problem for me on pantheon over time... |
| [06:41:20] | <omega8cc> | it is now enabled by default in every 6.x platform |
| [06:41:29] | <omega8cc> | on site install |
| [06:42:48] | <AntiNSA> | thats really good info to put in the readme about boost leaving stuff in the cache. |
| [06:42:59] | <AntiNSA> | I would have never thought that if you didnt tell me. |
| [06:43:09] | <AntiNSA> | I guess a lot of other people also. |
| [06:43:29] | <AntiNSA> | drush uninstall boost |
| [06:43:34] | <AntiNSA> | sorry wrong sin |
| [06:43:39] | <AntiNSA> | win |
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| [06:48:21] | <AntiNSA> | is it safe to delete all the directories in the cache file on the platform rootn? |
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| [06:54:41] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: rather all subdirs/files in the cache/perm and cache/normal |
| [06:55:16] | <omega8cc> | so cache/perm and cache/normal should be there, but Boost will recreate them anyway |
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| [06:55:50] | <AntiNSA> | I have disabled and uninstalled boost |
| [06:56:06] | <AntiNSA> | I dont want to use it at all if speed boster does everything. |
| [06:56:20] | <AntiNSA> | ok I will fix that |
| [06:58:19] | <AntiNSA> | what besides boost uses the cache folder |
| [06:58:20] | <AntiNSA> | ? |
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| [07:02:15] | <omega8cc> | only Boost (and web server, when there are any files) |
| [07:03:03] | <AntiNSA> | ok |
| [07:04:05] | <AntiNSA> | maybe you can make boost an option like maria and all the other stuff at the beginning?then people can just not even install it |
| [07:04:51] | <AntiNSA> | it is the only thing that needs .htaccess files too? |
| [07:06:54] | <AntiNSA> | about ajax blocks cache... does that do anything bad to your install if you enable it and disable it? Would you recommend that with barracuda? |
| [07:07:22] | <omega8cc> | no, it doesn't need this file in Nginx but we are creating it anyway, so it will not complain it doesn't include required rules (for Apache) |
| [07:08:56] | <omega8cc> | I don't use it personally, you need to check its docs etc probably, we are bundling it because it helps for some users |
| [07:09:20] | <AntiNSA> | ok |
| [07:16:10] | <AntiNSA> | so when I disable all my time based views caching settings, the cache module will be there and do the caching of those views for registered users? |
| [07:17:47] | <AntiNSA> | and if the caching module was disabled, there would be no caching at all for registered users? |
| [07:19:12] | <AntiNSA> | since the speedboost mod only handles anonymous? |
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| [07:37:26] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: speed booster works both for anonymous and logged in users, but some URLs are never cached by speed booster - like /user* and /admin*, yet the cache module works for logged in users for all URLs. The difference is that the cache module caches only some tables on the fly to lower sql server load, while the speed booster creates full page cache files, just like boost - all the same for anonymous and per user for logged in users |
| [07:41:15] | <omega8cc> | so you can "disable" the speed booster on the fly by visiting the /user/* or /admin/* URL - all your page views will be served live (not from speed booster cache) for the next 60 seconds and then it will again use internal Nginx cache |
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| [07:44:53] | <omega8cc> | also, it doesn't cache POST requests, so you will see your comments added etc, instantly |
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| [07:45:42] | <omega8cc> | kind of Varnish for logged in users |
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| [07:50:58] | <vegardx> | wouldnt using varnish give more or less the same results? |
| [08:07:31] | <omega8cc> | vegardx: Varnish couldn't do that, and Nginx with its native cache is almost as fast as Varnish - but also for logged in users (it stores hashes in memory and the system caches files in memory anyway) |
| [08:07:47] | <vegardx> | I'd like to see stats about that statement, omega8cc :) |
| [08:07:54] | <vegardx> | (varnish / nignx) |
| [08:09:45] | <omega8cc> | it was tested many times already and I plan to publish something about it soon, but with good tools, not just ab benchmarks |
| [08:10:21] | <vegardx> | http://kristianlyng.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/the-many-pitfalls-of-benchm... |
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| [08:15:28] | <omega8cc> | yeah, all those "benchmarks" based on ab or other hammering the servers are useless, and on local machine? pfff |
| [08:17:09] | <vegardx> | He's going to write a pretty big post about how to properly benchmark stuff, i'll make sure it reaches you when it's finished |
| [08:17:59] | <omega8cc> | great, thanks |
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| [09:32:12] | <trainer> | I have some sites that I want to migrate to a newer platform to which I've added an install profile. All the contrib modules used to be in /sites/all but now they are under /profiles. Aegir complains but allows me to migrate sites to the newer platform, but now the site doesn't detect the presence of the modules at all, so I can't even enable them manually. Any suggestions? |
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| [09:38:30] | <AntiNSA> | whats the easiest way to diable javascript opt in performance? |
| [09:40:04] | <omega8cc> | trainer: do you expect install profile migration? probably not, try to re-verify both source and target platforms, then clear all caches in the site and try migrate comparison again |
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| [09:41:57] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: for Octopus instance it is hardcoded in /data/conf/global.inc, but you can override it per site in local.settings.php |
| [09:42:37] | <AntiNSA> | last time I did that I am afraid I have written localsettings.php incorrectly and it didnt read the rest of the settings. |
| [09:43:11] | <AntiNSA> | what is the proper way to use local settingsphp to only disable javascript opt and leave everything else in tact? |
| [09:43:32] | <AntiNSA> | is there a git on that? |
| [09:43:48] | <AntiNSA> | I remember there was a discussion, but I cant find it. |
| [09:46:37] | <omega8cc> | Google is your friend |
| [09:46:42] | <AntiNSA> | $conf['preprocess_js'] = 1; |
| [09:46:48] | <omega8cc> | http://groups.drupal.org/node/92734 |
| [09:46:51] | <AntiNSA> | is on .. |
| [09:46:57] | <AntiNSA> | yes reading that now |
| [09:47:17] | <AntiNSA> | $conf['preprocess_js'] = 0; |
| [09:47:19] | <AntiNSA> | ok |
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| [09:47:58] | <AntiNSA> | put that line in a php file and it wont break anything else, right? |
| [09:50:43] | <AntiNSA> | or should it be @ini_set('preprocess_js', 0); ? |
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| [10:10:16] | <AntiNSA> | omegga I asked the views caching question earlier, herer : http://drupal.org/user/99340 |
| [10:10:33] | <AntiNSA> | sorry wrong one http://drupal.org/node/1005170 |
| [10:10:51] | <AntiNSA> | can you read that and let me know what you think ? |
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| [10:27:46] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: In my experience caching enabled in views caused often *serious* issues, but maybe it was related to memory leaks in Views before, there are many reasons to watch what your Views caching really does, see this for example (this caused database cache tables growing to many GB) http://drupal.org/node/282845#comment-3382052 |
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