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| [11:25:38] | <shrop> | mig5: Is this still a good recommendation for automated Aegir backups? http://greenbeedigital.com.au/content/aegir-batch-site-backup-script |
| [11:26:18] | <shrop> | I can't seem to pull up the scripts, so maybe there is now a better way? Thanks in advance! |
| [11:27:01] | <mig5> | shrop: that or http://drupal.org/project/hosting_backup_queue |
| [11:27:08] | <mig5> | contrib add-on for aegir to do it from the UI |
| [11:27:19] | <mig5> | maybe the scripts have disappeared, i'll look at that, but can't right this second |
| [11:28:00] | <shrop> | no worries man. Thanks for the link. I will check that out for now :) |
| [11:28:30] | <milk> | mig5; i'll move that bug after checking for an existing one - what version of drush does aegir use again? |
| [11:28:37] | <milk> | or drush make rather |
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| [11:54:42] | <Egyptian[Home]> | i am requested to build a portal for ngo's and was wondering if aegir can do what i want : a registered user clicks on a button or link to create his ngo's page eg. http://ngo1.aegirsite.org the link would then only be activated by admin approval. |
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| [13:26:57] | <cmcintosh> | got a apache question, for some reason i am getting an error saying that apache needs to use the NameVirtualHost directive. I have added this into the config. |
| [13:27:32] | <cmcintosh> | however when i create new sites via aegir, it uses the ip address:80 in the VirtualHost tag instead of the domain name, any ideas? |
| [13:29:07] | <bgm> | cmcintosh: that sounds right, with vhosts, you usually have many sites on the same IP, but use ServerName example.org, to say for which site that vhost applies |
| [13:29:32] | <bgm> | running "/usr/bin/apache2ctl -S" (or equivalent) often helps to debug vhost issues |
| [13:30:12] | <cmcintosh> | right the issue im having is when a new VirtualName is created, aegir is using the IP instead of the domain name for that vhost. Which causes the site to not resolve properly |
| [13:30:36] | <cmcintosh> | is there a way i can configure aegir to correctly use the domain name, or is there a setting im missing that would cause this? |
| [13:30:50] | <bgm> | Egyptian[Home]: yes, that is very possible with Aegir. one possibility is to use uc_hosting (i.e. plug it with Ubercart, even if 0$) and moderate. but maybe the default "new site" form is sufficient (with moderation) |
| [13:31:22] | <Egyptian[Home]> | bgm: thank you |
| [13:31:48] | <bgm> | cmcintosh: i'm not sure i understand, usually vhost declarations have: <VirtualHost *:80> [...] ServerName example.org [...] |
| [13:33:04] | <cmcintosh> | right, when aegir is setting up the new vhost files, it has <VirtualHost IP_ADDRESS:80> |
| [13:33:13] | <cmcintosh> | which does not resolve properly for some reason |
| [13:33:44] | <cmcintosh> | if i change it to <VirtualHost Site.EXAMPLE.COM:80> it then resolves properly(the site displays) |
| [13:36:20] | <bgm> | cmcintosh: hmm, weird, i don't have this here. but i am not in a state to debug right now, you'll have more changes of getting a good answer by asking on the community.aegirproject.org forum, or tomorrow |
| [13:36:30] | <bgm> | changes -> chances |
| [13:36:50] | <cmcintosh> | yea |
| [13:37:06] | <cmcintosh> | im thinking its something in the apache.conf file that may be screwing it up a bit |
| [13:37:25] | <cmcintosh> | i have a bit of a odd setup cause its on centos at the moment |
| [13:37:33] | <bgm> | you can check the .tpl files used by aegir to generate vhosts |
| [13:37:44] | <bgm> | it might explain the logic a bit |
| [13:37:57] | <bgm> | all i know is that an IP can be assigned to the vhost if using SSL, but usually it just uses * |
| [13:38:02] | <cmcintosh> | where are those located? |
| [13:38:14] | <cmcintosh> | i have ssl support enabled that may be it |
| [13:38:27] | <cmcintosh> | but even with * i dont think it works properly |
| [13:38:37] | <cmcintosh> | thanks for the ideas |
| [13:39:38] | <bgm> | cmcintosh: in ~/.drush/provision/http/[...]*tpl.php |
| [13:40:16] | <bgm> | ah, when using SSL, it will round-robin the IPs set in the apache server configuration (edit the server node in the Aegir web interface) |
| [13:40:27] | <bgm> | .. or something like that. i am not very familiar with it |
| [13:40:33] | <bgm> | good luck :) |
| [13:40:43] | <cmcintosh> | ah ok |
| [13:40:50] | <cmcintosh> | i may turn off ssl for the time being |
| [13:42:20] | <cmcintosh> | im moving some dev from my local to live so there are always glitches in that process |
| [13:42:36] | <cmcintosh> | not to mention with adding in my Services API, drush scripts into the mix |
| [13:42:55] | <cmcintosh> | i really got to switch soon to Amazon's EC2 |
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| [15:50:24] | <Aurorus> | I have a working multi-site installation - what's the best way to create a drush makefile based on the working Drupal installation? |
| [15:50:38] | <Aurorus> | I thought it was "generate_makefile", however I'm getting an error with "The drush command 'generate_makefile' could not be found. " |
| [15:50:43] | <Aurorus> | Where can I find that command? |
| [15:55:16] | <mig5> | generate-makefile maybe |
| [15:55:19] | <mig5> | (not an underscore) |
| [15:55:29] | <Aurorus> | mig5: Tried that too - still command not found |
| [15:56:05] | <mig5> | drush help | grep makefile ? |
| [15:56:16] | <Aurorus> | It's "make-generate" in my build |
| [15:56:24] | <mig5> | did you try it? |
| [15:56:26] | <Aurorus> | just looked through the drush.inc file |
| [15:56:34] | <Aurorus> | going to try it now |
| [15:57:40] | <Aurorus> | mig5: That didn't work :( |
| [15:57:56] | <Aurorus> | I've got a multi-site installation, so I have to specify the --uri=domain.com command for Drush to work |
| [15:58:16] | <Aurorus> | drush status --uri=domain.com returns success and the correct information |
| [15:58:24] | <Aurorus> | So Drush works and everything else works |
| [15:58:38] | <Aurorus> | just seems Drush isn't finding the command |
| [15:58:46] | <mig5> | so maybe it's a bug in drush_make |
| [15:58:52] | <Aurorus> | Drush version 3.3 |
| [15:58:56] | <mig5> | it's a separate component of drush |
| [15:58:59] | <Aurorus> | ahh ok |
| [15:59:15] | <mig5> | http://drupal.org/project/drush_make |
| [15:59:40] | <mig5> | it lives in /var/aegir/.drush on your system probably |
| [15:59:46] | <Aurorus> | yep, that's where I found it |
| [15:59:54] | <Aurorus> | is there a refresh drush command or something? |
| [16:00:18] | <mig5> | not sure what you mean. but you could try replacing your copy of drush_make with the latest version there |
| [16:00:36] | <Aurorus> | a wget and extract the best way to go about it? |
| [16:01:44] | <mig5> | yep |
| [16:02:33] | <Aurorus> | Still not found. Am trying to run " /var/aegir/drush/drush.php generate-makefile --uri=domain.com" |
| [16:02:39] | <Aurorus> | that's with sudo in front |
| [16:02:47] | <mig5> | probably don't want sudo.... |
| [16:03:00] | <mig5> | with sudo it will ignore /var/aegir/.drush |
| [16:03:07] | <Aurorus> | uhh, I see |
| [16:03:12] | <mig5> | what user are you running as |
| [16:03:20] | <Aurorus> | a non-aegir, non-root user |
| [16:03:25] | <Aurorus> | might have to change to aegir user |
| [16:03:34] | <mig5> | so sudo su -s /bin/bash aegir |
| [16:03:38] | <mig5> | and then run the command again with no sudo |
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| [16:05:30] | <Aurorus> | that's much better progress - "Unable to write .make file <em></em> " after going through the enabled modules |
| [16:05:42] | <Aurorus> | I'm thinking that's a permissions thing? |
| [16:06:02] | <Aurorus> | Can I specify a location, e.g. drush generate-makefile /path/to/file.make --uri=domain.com ? |
| [16:06:09] | <mig5> | did you specify a makefile filename in the arg ? |
| [16:06:13] | <Aurorus> | nope |
| [16:06:26] | <mig5> | do drush help generate-makefile |
| [16:07:05] | <Aurorus> | ahh, cheers |
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| [16:10:38] | <Aurorus> | mig5: That works lovely! Thank you very much! :) |
| [16:14:15] | <cmcintosh> | hey mig how things been going |
| [16:14:21] | <cmcintosh> | been keeping busy? |
| [16:14:48] | <mig5> | very busy |
| [16:14:54] | <mig5> | too busy for aegir a lot of the time :s |
| [16:15:27] | <cmcintosh> | yea |
| [16:15:47] | <cmcintosh> | i have been super busy with a big client and the whole implementation of Services api in my setup |
| [16:15:53] | <cmcintosh> | i about got it ready for beta testing |
| [16:16:29] | <cmcintosh> | been doing a lot of theme migrates from d6 to d7 to show case what the system can do |
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| [16:17:04] | <cmcintosh> | http://wembassy.com |
| [16:17:31] | <cmcintosh> | just migrating everything from local to my server to start the whole live testing phase of things |
| [16:17:41] | <cmcintosh> | will be interesting to see how it lives in the wild |
| [16:19:18] | <cmcintosh> | mig5 you get a chance to hit drupalcon chicago? |
| [16:19:28] | <cmcintosh> | i missed it due to being still in the philippines |
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| [16:34:41] | <mig5> | no i didn't go |
| [16:36:06] | <cmcintosh> | yea |
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| [16:41:48] | <cmcintosh> | ive been waiting for my fiancees visa to get approved for the states |
| [16:42:14] | <AntiNSA> | ? |
| [16:42:37] | <AntiNSA> | why enable javascript aggregator on the head version? It causes wsod or me |
| [16:44:07] | <AntiNSA> | fuck visas. |
| [16:44:11] | <AntiNSA> | sorry |
| [16:44:19] | <AntiNSA> | Im just saying. passports too. |
| [16:44:36] | <AntiNSA> | coca cola doesnt need a passport why do I? |
| [16:44:45] | <AntiNSA> | or my wife or children. |
| [16:45:14] | <AntiNSA> | geed luck with your wifes visa. |
| [16:45:23] | <AntiNSA> | akward aegir moment. |
| [16:45:44] | <cmcintosh> | well its been approved |
| [16:45:52] | <cmcintosh> | we just waiting for the interview and medical exam |
| [16:47:16] | <cmcintosh> | AnitiNSA: can you give me your opinnion of http://wembassy.com |
| [16:47:26] | <cmcintosh> | just getting it to where i can start testing it live |
| [16:48:14] | <cmcintosh> | still need to do all of my videos and tour stuff |
| [16:48:23] | <cmcintosh> | but the main functionality i got going pretty good i think |
| [16:59:43] | <Aurorus> | cmcintosh: It's very hard to read the body text. I'd recommend a solid background colour, or a very light two-tone gradient |
| [17:03:43] | <Aurorus> | mig5: If I could bother you with one more question. Am trying to create a makefile that will automatically download and install Drupal, then download the correct modules specified. |
| [17:04:18] | <Aurorus> | The current platform verify fails with the /var/aegir/platforms/drupal-test/ does not contain a valid Drupal installation" |
| [17:04:31] | <Aurorus> | mig5: Am I missing something crucial? |
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| [17:11:55] | <cmcintosh> | k |
| [17:11:56] | <cmcintosh> | thanks |
| [17:12:24] | <cmcintosh> | i was thinking a darker back tone or solid |
| [17:12:27] | <cmcintosh> | more solid |
| [17:12:35] | <cmcintosh> | right now i think its at opacity 60 |
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| [18:37:10] | <cmcintosh> | anyone up for brainstorming something through with me. Say i have some sites and I want to be able to setup a ticketing system for them. My thought is to setup Projects/Cases for each site. |
| [18:37:57] | <cmcintosh> | the other idea i had that would be nice is to some how group with that git repo tracking, so whenever i post a new commit to get it would show up in a log there |
| [18:38:22] | <cmcintosh> | the casetracker thing i think is simple enough, how ever the thing that is tricky for me would be the git logging |
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| [00:08:02] | <toratoraman> | hi |
| [00:08:02] | <hefring> | what's up |
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| [00:08:08] | <toratoraman> | everbody |
| [00:08:15] | <toratoraman> | pls. i have a problem |
| [00:08:21] | <toratoraman> | can you help me |
| [00:08:58] | <toratoraman> | i cant delete domain aegir system |
| [00:15:31] | <darthsteven> | toratoraman: What do you mean by 'cant delete domain aegir system' |
| [00:17:48] | <cmcintosh> | can you review the log from the delete task |
| [00:17:59] | <cmcintosh> | specifically any errors or warning |
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| [00:19:35] | <EclipseGc> | toratoraman: also, it's bad form to PM people randomly |
| [00:19:45] | <toratoraman> | ok |
| [00:19:51] | <EclipseGc> | toratoraman: most of us will ignore such a thing |
| [00:20:01] | <toratoraman> | i want domain delete.. |
| [00:20:09] | <EclipseGc> | toratoraman: domain or site? |
| [00:20:09] | <toratoraman> | but i cant domain delete |
| [00:20:19] | <toratoraman> | yakindunya.com |
| [00:20:25] | <toratoraman> | pardon |
| [00:20:28] | <toratoraman> | yakindunya.net |
| [00:20:52] | <cmcintosh> | brb |
| [00:20:55] | <cmcintosh> | getting dinner |
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| [00:21:25] | <toratoraman> | pls. how is it delete ? |
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| [00:24:00] | <toratoraman> | ? |
| [00:25:44] | <toratoraman> | cmcintosh .. are you here ? |
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| [00:29:47] | <cmcintosh> | yes |
| [00:30:34] | <cmcintosh> | when your trying to delete it, are you using the button in the interface? |
| [00:30:39] | <cmcintosh> | anarcat, hey |
| [00:30:45] | <anarcat> | ho |
| [00:30:56] | <cmcintosh> | been keeping busy |
| [00:33:20] | <anarcat> | yes yes |
| [00:33:34] | <cmcintosh> | same here |
| [00:33:46] | <cmcintosh> | got a big client and been working on refining my services stuff |
| [00:33:56] | <cmcintosh> | about got it up to a beta level now |
| [00:35:06] | <anarcat> | good |
| [00:35:25] | <cmcintosh> | yea |
| [00:35:26] | <anarcat> | i talked with someone at drupalcon who was doing something similar, i unfortunately forgot who :) |
| [00:35:31] | <anarcat> | i told him about you |
| [00:35:34] | <cmcintosh> | yea |
| [00:35:45] | <cmcintosh> | i need to get the module and all cleaned up and good to publish |
| [00:36:11] | <cmcintosh> | i think for the time ill release the hostmaster side as a standalone as the client end is a bit of a pain |
| [00:37:06] | <toratoraman> | http://img836.imageshack.us/i/screenicantdelete.jpg/ |
| [00:37:10] | <toratoraman> | screenshot |
| [00:37:42] | <anarcat> | publish early, publish often :) |
| [00:37:50] | <cmcintosh> | yea |
| [00:38:00] | <cmcintosh> | toratoraman: that does not tell me anything |
| [00:38:03] | <toratoraman> | i want delete.. but.. dont delete |
| [00:38:05] | <cmcintosh> | what does the log say |
| [00:38:23] | <toratoraman> | i want delete yakindunya.net domain |
| [00:38:33] | <toratoraman> | all install file.. |
| [00:38:35] | <toratoraman> | but.. |
| [00:38:37] | <cmcintosh> | click on the view button for delete and then see what it says |
| [00:38:54] | <toratoraman> | i click run delete buton.. |
| [00:39:02] | <toratoraman> | but.. dont delet.. |
| [00:39:15] | <cmcintosh> | toratoraman, click the view next to the delete command |
| [00:39:19] | <cmcintosh> | come on man |
| [00:39:48] | * anarcat wonders if toratoraman read this before asking here: http://community.aegirproject.org/bugs |
| [00:39:52] | <cmcintosh> | darn it jim im a programmer not a tarot card reader |
| [00:39:58] | <anarcat> | haha |
| [00:40:01] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: lol |
| [00:40:17] | <toratoraman> | Site: yakindunya.net |
| [00:40:17] | <toratoraman> | Status: Failed |
| [00:40:17] | <toratoraman> | Executed: Mon, 03/21/2011 - 13:35 |
| [00:40:17] | <toratoraman> | Execution time: 0 sec |
| [00:40:33] | <anarcat> | aaalmost there |
| [00:40:36] | <cmcintosh> | just the lines that are red please |
| [00:40:38] | <anarcat> | okay, good luck folks |
| [00:40:41] | <toratoraman> | Log message |
| [00:40:41] | <toratoraman> | Task starts processing |
| [00:40:42] | <toratoraman> | Running: /data/disk/tora/tools/drush/drush.php @yakindunya.net provision-delete --backend |
| [00:40:42] | <toratoraman> | Drush bootstrap phase : _drush_bootstrap_drush() |
| [00:40:42] | <toratoraman> | Load alias @yakindunya.net |
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| [00:40:52] | <anarcat> | irc 101 |
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| [00:41:13] | <cmcintosh> | anarcat, hmmm thinks it has more to do with a language barrier |
| [00:41:14] | <cmcintosh> | lol |
| [00:41:29] | <toratoraman> | arte you see |
| [00:41:32] | <toratoraman> | mesaage |
| [00:41:37] | <toratoraman> | are you see message |
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| [00:41:57] | <cmcintosh> | i think it is a problem with your biological to digital interface |
| [00:42:28] | <cmcintosh> | please review http://community.aegirproject.org/bugs |
| [00:43:44] | <toratoraman> | thanks |
| [00:44:05] | <cmcintosh> | toratorman: i could fix it for you, but i charge 100$ US /hr at 3 hour min, paid in advance |
| [00:47:27] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: biological to digital interface lol |
| [00:47:44] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: that does appear to be the problem |
| [00:47:49] | <cmcintosh> | yea |
| [00:48:01] | <cmcintosh> | he can pick up a new one at any bust buy |
| [00:48:35] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: bust buy... that sounds like an interesting shop |
| [00:48:49] | <cmcintosh> | ha ha |
| [00:48:53] | <cmcintosh> | best* |
| [00:48:54] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: not sure if it will appeal more to men or women |
| [00:50:00] | <cmcintosh> | EclipseGc, you got any experience with AdaptiveThemes or Fusion |
| [00:50:04] | <cmcintosh> | any comparisons |
| [00:50:14] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: fusion yes, no adaptive |
| [00:50:32] | <cmcintosh> | whats your feeling on fusion / skinr in d7 |
| [00:51:15] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: so... I've used fusion a lot of skinr virtually none |
| [00:51:19] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: which is sort of interesting |
| [00:51:32] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: basically, all my layout needs are served by panels these days |
| [00:52:13] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: but fusion seems very solid in general |
| [00:52:20] | <cmcintosh> | yea |
| [00:52:24] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: I'm also a big zen fan |
| [00:52:33] | <cmcintosh> | im trying to come up with something on akin to the drupal gardens theme tool |
| [00:52:43] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: sweaver |
| [00:52:50] | <cmcintosh> | sweaver? |
| [00:52:56] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: drupal.org/project/sweaver |
| [00:53:00] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: done |
| [00:53:06] | <cmcintosh> | nice |
| [00:53:19] | <cmcintosh> | saves me about two weeks of coding |
| [00:54:05] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: ya, good thing you talked to me huh? |
| [00:54:06] | <EclipseGc> | ;-) |
| [00:54:09] | <cmcintosh> | EclipseGc, lets me get to working on the really meats of my setup, which is the tools for the devs |
| [00:54:11] | <cmcintosh> | yea |
| [00:54:33] | <cmcintosh> | tbh though, what i would love to see as a theme tool is something akin to Photoshop in a browser |
| [00:54:34] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: so, what you attempting to do? |
| [00:54:46] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: yeah, good luck with that ;-) |
| [00:54:56] | <cmcintosh> | gardens + squarespace + awesomesauce |
| [00:55:09] | <toratoraman> | pls. help. me. |
| [00:55:16] | <cmcintosh> | im doing a self service site tool, with a job board built into it |
| [00:55:16] | <toratoraman> | i want delete domain |
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| [00:55:30] | <cmcintosh> | toratoraman, go to admin/content |
| [00:55:48] | <toratoraman> | ok |
| [00:56:03] | <cmcintosh> | find the Task that says Delelte: <THE DOMAIN YOU WANT DELETED> |
| [00:56:05] | <cmcintosh> | click view |
| [00:56:10] | <cmcintosh> | and read through that |
| [00:56:18] | <cmcintosh> | it will tell you why it cant delete that site |
| [00:56:28] | <cmcintosh> | im guessing you deleted it manually via the cmd line |
| [00:57:35] | <EclipseGc> | toratoraman: you are fast burning through the patience anyone has for your issue by being belligerent... I realize that's probably a language barrier thing, so... what's your first language? |
| [00:58:14] | <cmcintosh> | EclipseGc, actually it would not be too terribly hard to do, you could use the new Canvas tag to do a lot of the graphical stuff |
| [00:58:22] | <cmcintosh> | and layers are easily simulated |
| [00:58:57] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: true, but doing complex selections, channels, heck, even gradients to some degree are all difficult |
| [00:59:04] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: magic wand ;-) |
| [00:59:10] | <cmcintosh> | yea |
| [00:59:36] | <cmcintosh> | well im not saying you could make photoshop cs5, would start out more like paintshop pro |
| [00:59:46] | <EclipseGc> | hah |
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| [01:01:07] | <cmcintosh> | but you get my general point right? |
| [01:01:17] | <EclipseGc> | ya |
| [01:01:26] | <cmcintosh> | i mean how awesome would it be to just log in to the site your going to theme, and just paint it |
| [01:01:36] | <cmcintosh> | course would tick off a lot of themers |
| [01:01:48] | <toratoraman> | thank you very much |
| [01:01:56] | <toratoraman> | cmcintosh |
| [01:01:59] | <toratoraman> | thank you |
| [01:02:22] | <cmcintosh> | did it explain why it was not deleting it? |
| [01:03:23] | <cmcintosh> | toratoraman, its often good to share what was causing the issue incase someone else is having a similar issue, that way everyone grows at the same time |
| [01:03:26] | <cmcintosh> | more or less |
| [01:04:11] | <cmcintosh> | lol apparently skinner and sweaver do not like each other |
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| [01:04:37] | <mrbaileys> | Hey all -- quick question about Aegir terminology: 'http' is a 'service type', and 'apache' is a service, correct? |
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| [01:12:05] | <darthsteven> | mrbaileys: Yes |
| [01:12:20] | <darthsteven> | pretty much |
| [01:12:42] | <mrbaileys> | darthsteven: actually, I just found http://community.aegirproject.org/node/36 which has it the other way around I think |
| [01:13:11] | * mrbaileys is a bit confused by services and service types it seems... |
| [01:13:43] | <darthsteven> | mrbaileys: Oh man it depends on the context of what you're trying to say |
| [01:13:53] | <darthsteven> | mrbaileys: not sure what the code says exactly |
| [01:14:14] | <mrbaileys> | darthsteven: well, I started writing a patch for what I think is a bug with http://api.ergonlogic.net/api/Hostmaster/modules--hosting--hosting.api.p... |
| [01:14:33] | <mrbaileys> | since I think the 'http' and 'apache' elements there should be switched around |
| [01:14:39] | <darthsteven> | mrbaileys: 'Service type' is a very bad name for what node/36 is trying to describe |
| [01:14:44] | <mrbaileys> | darthsteven: but then I got bogged down in terminology :) |
| [01:15:42] | <darthsteven> | indeed |
| [01:16:05] | <mrbaileys> | darthsteven: so codewise, what should I call "apache", and what should I call "http"? |
| [01:16:08] | <darthsteven> | I would suggest that if the code docs are inconsistent then we need to make it consistent |
| [01:16:17] | <darthsteven> | ermmm |
| [01:16:20] | <darthsteven> | one min |
| [01:17:26] | <darthsteven> | http://api.ergonlogic.net/api/Provision/example--example.drush.inc/funct... |
| [01:17:42] | <darthsteven> | would suggest that 'Service type' and 'implementation' are the preferred terms |
| [01:17:50] | <toratoraman> | cmcintosh.. |
| [01:17:55] | <darthsteven> | which would make sense to me |
| [01:17:56] | <toratoraman> | now i again install |
| [01:17:59] | <toratoraman> | but.. |
| [01:18:05] | <toratoraman> | install not finish |
| [01:18:11] | <darthsteven> | so 'http' is a Service type |
| [01:18:21] | <darthsteven> | and apache is an implementation |
| [01:18:51] | <mrbaileys> | darthsteven: that does make sense, I'll submit a patch updating the hosting.api.php file -- thanks for your help! |
| [01:20:48] | <darthsteven> | 'Service implementation' is also used instead of just 'implementation' |
| [01:20:55] | <darthsteven> | node/36 also needs to change |
| [01:21:30] | <darthsteven> | mrbaileys: could pop a comment on the new 'talk' pages on c.a.o |
| [01:22:02] | <mrbaileys> | darthsteven: do mere mortals have access to that page? |
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| [01:23:54] | <darthsteven> | mrbaileys: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/36/talk you need to be logged in to see the comment form |
| [01:24:59] | <darthsteven> | mrbaileys: The doxygen here is the justification for your patch: http://api.ergonlogic.net/api/Hostmaster/modules--hosting--example--host... |
| [01:25:31] | <mrbaileys> | darthsteven: thanks, I'll leave a comment on the talk page and will submit the doxygen/api patch on d.o. |
| [01:25:51] | <darthsteven> | mrbaileys: cool cool, thanks for the contribution! |
| [01:32:38] | <cmcintosh> | EclipseGc, i like sweaver but who decided on the bright puke green bg color with white text? |
| [01:32:51] | <EclipseGc> | cmcintosh: yeah don't get me started |
| [01:33:16] | <cmcintosh> | someone should patch that |
| [01:33:36] | <cmcintosh> | everything else in there looks pretty solid |
| [01:34:00] | <cmcintosh> | could do for an adv css button |
| [01:36:51] | <cmcintosh> | maybe they had to change it to something ugly cause of gardens |
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| [01:47:26] | <hefring> | community => Suggestions to improve documentation section => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/502 |
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| [02:29:38] | <cmcintosh> | wb anarcat |
| [02:29:42] | <cmcintosh> | he is gone |
| [02:29:44] | <cmcintosh> | i think |
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| [03:02:10] | <cmcintosh> | hey omega |
| [03:02:19] | <cmcintosh> | how things been going with your site lauch |
| [03:02:21] | <cmcintosh> | launch* |
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| [03:10:21] | <AntiNSA> | Im having a nightmare problem I enablesd javascript aggregator and disabled it earlier and am unsure if ite related, but my newly created views are no long vavailable in my panel contents |
| [03:10:51] | <AntiNSA> | if anyone knows if there is a cache in aegir somewhere I am missing that needs deleted let me know |
| [03:13:24] | <cmcintosh> | you should be able to flush cache via the performance page |
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| [03:17:03] | <AntiNSA> | thanks... tried it and drush cc too |
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| [03:28:44] | <cmcintosh> | anyone have an idea what this error means: http://pastebin.com/RFVSxDR3 trying to create a site via code and using the nid of the platform, server, profile to do it. has there been a change in the latest revision of aegir that i need to change my code a bit |
| [03:28:50] | <cmcintosh> | maybe use the rid instead of nid? |
| [03:31:24] | <cmcintosh> | hmm |
| [03:31:33] | <cmcintosh> | seeing some other oddness for that platform |
| [03:31:37] | <cmcintosh> | maybe corrupt |
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| [03:39:32] | <cmcintosh> | werid |
| [03:39:48] | <cmcintosh> | the drupal 7 sites im installing are not displaying the standard or minimal profiles |
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| [03:46:25] | <cmcintosh> | fixed it |
| [03:46:41] | <cmcintosh> | some reasons the packages were not associating themselves with the d7 platforms |
| [03:46:55] | <cmcintosh> | werid bug, I manually deleted those nodes, reverified and all looks good |
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| [03:56:11] | <smthomas> | I migrated a site from my development server to the remote production server on an Aegir rc2 install and the DNS was already set up and replicated to point to the production server. However when I go to the site, it is giving me a "Not Found" error. |
| [03:56:38] | <smthomas> | However, I know the site should be found because I have a site alias of "www" set and when I try to go to the www side it correctly redirects me back to the non "www" url, but still gives me a "not found" error |
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| [03:58:08] | <smthomas> | so it is reading the vhost file is being read in, I double checked it and it appears to be pointing to the correct Document root. Tried restarting apache, etc. Still no luck. Any ideas? |
| [03:58:42] | <smthomas> | I can confirm the site is sitting out on the production server and everything looks good, apache just isn't directing me to the site correctly. |
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| [04:01:57] | <delibalta> | hi |
| [04:01:57] | <hefring> | bonjour |
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| [04:02:04] | <delibalta> | bonjur |
| [04:02:10] | <delibalta> | bonjour |
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| [04:02:26] | <delibalta> | hi.. |
| [04:02:26] | <hefring> | hey |
| [04:02:40] | <delibalta> | i have a problem |
| [04:02:44] | <delibalta> | can you help me ? |
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| [04:04:05] | <smthomas> | delibalta: just ask, if someone has an answer they will try to help |
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| [04:06:05] | <delibalta> | i can install openpublish.. |
| [04:06:10] | <delibalta> | dont instal |
| [04:06:19] | <delibalta> | drush and provision |
| [04:06:23] | <delibalta> | error |
| [04:06:27] | <delibalta> | log |
| [04:07:26] | <smthomas> | ok, I am not familiar with openpublish, but I am familiar enough with the basics of Aegir that I may be able to help you out. You will need to provide more information on the error messages though. |
| [04:13:17] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | I would strongly adbvise against installing javascript_aggregtor as default on barracuda |
| [04:13:28] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | it has caused a lot of problems with me in the past . |
| [04:14:45] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | recently it just totally destroyed the jquery_ui module, which in turned screwed up panels, and only after the lick of seing a duplicate jquery update primary id key could I see the relation to the disabled and uninstalled jquery aggregator. |
| [04:15:22] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | barracuda is cool . javascript aggregator is dangerou. Eve other users had problems with pantheonon it. |
| [04:17:51] | <ember_> | Hi. I'm trying to install aegir and I'm running into an error when the install script runs the hostmaster-install. "Could not create database user aegirtest[xxx]". Does anybody have any ideas? Thank you! |
| [04:17:57] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | just oet an hour of my life to that. |
| [04:20:16] | <smthomas> | ember_: Make sure the database user that you allow aegir to use has permission to create users and tables in the database |
| [04:23:29] | <ember_> | smthomas: I'm not creating any user. I've just given the aegir install script the root password to the mysql database. I've checked the database and made sure all the passwords match (as recommended). I have a root user with access from the hosts: localhost and aegir-test (hostname) as recommended and the password hashes match. Is it even possible for root not to have the create users and tables permissions? |
| [04:24:01] | <adrinux> | probably |
| [04:24:12] | <adrinux> | but not normal default |
| [04:24:51] | <adrinux> | ember_: checked the mysql log? |
| [04:24:55] | <ember_> | adrinux: thinking about it, I have created other uses and databases using the root username, so it should be ok. |
| [04:25:13] | <ember_> | adrinux: Good idea! I will do that and check back here in a few. |
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| [04:34:38] | <smthomas> | ember_: just another thought, you will want to make sure you can connect to mysql from whatever hostname your server resolves to. I have had an issue with that in a past install with Aegir. This would only be the case if the Aegir install is not able to connect to the database at all though. |
| [04:37:53] | <ember_> | smthomas: When you say hostname, you mean aegir-test, not aegir-test.unh.edu, right? |
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| [04:44:08] | <ember_> | adrinux: I checked the log and there's nothing in there. Do you know if there's anyway to log creation errors in the mysql log? I'm looking for something on the internet, but no luck yet. Thanks! |
| [04:44:41] | <adrinux> | ember_: maybe it can't even reach the db server then |
| [04:44:59] | <adrinux> | access permissions error, if you see what I mean |
| [04:46:10] | <ember_> | adrinux: There are on the same machine. But, I read that aegir still tries to connect remotely. I'm wondering what that would mean. Would this be a mysql permission issue or some kind of firewall issue maybe? |
| [04:46:21] | <ember_> | adrinux: Or something else? |
| [04:49:21] | <adrinux> | possibly firewall, partly mysql config, in that you specify what IP's it can listen on. |
| [04:50:02] | <adrinux> | though I'm not to clear what aegir now does on that, for a while you needed to configure mysql to listen on the wan ip - but I thought that was changed. |
| [04:50:13] | <adrinux> | it should all be in the install docs though |
| [04:50:19] | <adrinux> | gotta go |
| [04:50:39] | <ember_> | adrinux: Thanks! I've gone through the install docs several times, I'll check again. |
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| [05:45:19] | <shrop> | deeter in da house! |
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| [05:47:53] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | hey i like this : BOA: Add fastcgi_pass_header X-Accel-Redirect in the Nginx configuration |
| [05:48:15] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | does this hellp stand alone insingle site isntalls? |
| [05:48:28] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | or is that only helpful for multisite people? |
| [05:49:21] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | Can I edit the 3 conf files ony my currenmt head version to get those features without updating/upgrading entire barracuda/octopus installation? |
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| [07:02:36] | <ember_> | Hi again. I posted a question earlier and was recommended to look in the mysql logs. I got it logging and what it shows me makes me think there might be a bug in aegir. If there's something I can do, please let me know. I'm just going to post the relevant lines in the order I received them. |
| [07:02:51] | <ember_> | Line 1: 4 Query GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON `aegirtest[xxx]`.* TO `aegirtest[xxx]`@`localhost` IDENTIFIED BY 'y2wpLXjPqX' |
| [07:02:57] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | stop |
| [07:03:01] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | use git |
| [07:03:08] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | and there is an issue forum there |
| [07:03:08] | <ember_> | Line 2: 4 Query CREATE DATABASE `aegirtest[xxx]` |
| [07:03:14] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | post the git link here |
| [07:03:32] | <ember_> | AntiNSA-AFK: Are you talking to me? |
| [07:03:55] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | yes |
| [07:04:04] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | you can get better help lik that |
| [07:04:12] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | do you know the git address? |
| [07:04:23] | <ember_> | I'm not sure where in git to get the help. |
| [07:04:28] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/ |
| [07:04:39] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/issues |
| [07:04:47] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | : ) |
| [07:04:59] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | I mean you can still ask here and stuff |
| [07:05:13] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | but if you fouind a bug thats probably a good place too |
| [07:05:53] | <ember_> | Ok, I'll go over there, but I'm going to hang on here in case anybody sees this and knows what I should do. I'm not sure it's a bug, but it looks like one since it's trying to create the user before it creates the database. Nothing I can do about that--I think. |
| [07:06:04] | <ember_> | Thanks :) |
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| [08:10:45] | <mxrhd> | Instead of throwing 200 questions towards you guys im just gonna ask if someone has a good Video/writeup for people looking at aegir the first time |
| [08:11:30] | <mxrhd> | My case is this: I'ma professional web developer who needs some system to keep track of private drupal installations, where i mostly make small portfolio/broschuresites for friends and family |
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| [08:12:59] | <mxrhd> | The workplace got a more advanced setup, where as on the private sites i mostly need to keep track of security updates and have a bundled drupal setup that i can deploy quicka dn start themeing right away |
| [08:13:16] | <mxrhd> | Is aegir the right solution for me, or should i just go with Drush Make command? |
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| [08:26:05] | <omega8cc> | mxrhd: I hope there will be some good video for beginners soon, and in the meantime why not to try Aegir demo server? see http://community.aegirproject.org/node/189 |
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| [08:27:22] | <omega8cc> | you could also start here: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/7 |
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| [08:28:05] | <omega8cc> | mxrhd: ^^ |
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| [08:34:26] | <delibalta> | hi |
| [08:35:43] | <delibalta> | i have a problem ? |
| [08:36:28] | <delibalta> | openpublish for aegir systems dont install |
| [08:36:38] | <delibalta> | pls. help me ? |
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| [08:38:49] | <delibalta1> | hi |
| [08:38:49] | <hefring> | ni hao |
| [08:38:59] | <delibalta1> | pls help me |
| [08:40:52] | <delibalta1> | Is there anyone? |
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| [08:41:59] | <delibalta1> | hi |
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| [08:42:11] | <delibalta1> | bwood |
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| [08:47:52] | <anarcat> | rah |
| [08:48:05] | <anarcat> | delibalta: please do not /msg people privately unless they agreed here first. |
| [08:48:16] | <anarcat> | also, read this before asking: http://community.aegirproject.org/bugs |
| [08:49:09] | <milk_> | what version of drush make does aegir use? |
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| [08:49:34] | <anarcat> | 2.2 |
| [08:49:42] | <anarcat> | iirc |
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| [08:50:52] | <LunkRat> | hi guys I was on here a few says back with dumb questions as I tried to install without things like php5-mysql or an MTA |
| [08:51:02] | <LunkRat> | but I got it installed! |
| [08:52:06] | <anarcat> | congrats! |
| [08:52:34] | <LunkRat> | hah thanks anarcat. i do apologise for the newbie-ness |
| [08:52:47] | <anarcat> | no problem, we get a lot of it around here :) |
| [08:52:55] | <anarcat> | i'm at the point where i ignore a lot of it, unfortunately :) |
| [08:52:58] | <LunkRat> | so . . . I got the new user email, but my browser does not load aegir at my domain root url |
| [08:53:06] | <anarcat> | can't help everyone installing php! ;) |
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| [08:53:42] | <LunkRat> | like, I click the reset password one-time link and blah Page Not Found |
| [08:53:54] | <anarcat> | seems like you have an apache configuration problem |
| [08:54:00] | <LunkRat> | I agree |
| [08:54:04] | <anarcat> | paste the output of apache2ctl -S in pastebin.com |
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| [08:54:45] | <LunkRat> | especially since my root domain displays the default Apache index.html "It works!" |
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| [08:54:55] | <delibalta1> | milk ? |
| [08:54:59] | <delibalta1> | are you here ? |
| [08:56:06] | <anarcat> | delibalta1: did you read this http://community.aegirproject.org/bugs |
| [08:56:24] | <delibalta1> | i dont contact |
| [08:56:31] | <delibalta1> | i dont see contact |
| [08:56:35] | <milk_> | delibalta1; hellos |
| [08:56:39] | <delibalta1> | hello |
| [08:56:39] | <hefring> | salut |
| [08:56:49] | <delibalta1> | thanks for ansver |
| [08:56:52] | <milk_> | anarcat; thanks for shifting that post btw |
| [08:57:04] | <delibalta1> | milk_ |
| [08:57:09] | <anarcat> | milk_: shifting what sorry? |
| [08:57:11] | <delibalta1> | do ypu using aegir ? |
| [08:58:00] | <milk_> | anarcat; the 'Undefined index: type drush_make.drush.inc:180' one |
| [08:58:03] | <LunkRat> | anarcat: http://pastebin.com/LEfFrLuf (sanitized) |
| [08:58:20] | <LunkRat> | looks like my vhost is wrong - what should it be? |
| [08:58:22] | <milk_> | delibalta1; i be using the aegir, aye. or trying to! |
| [08:58:35] | <anarcat> | milk_: ah, np |
| [08:58:37] | <delibalta1> | can you help me pls. |
| [08:59:04] | <anarcat> | LunkRat: it seems you didn't follow the install instructions correctly and haven't added the aegir config files to your apache config |
| [08:59:30] | <milk_> | del; what is your problem? |
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| [08:59:47] | <delibalta1> | i using aegir system |
| [08:59:59] | <delibalta1> | profiles.. i can install. |
| [09:00:02] | <LunkRat> | dammit why am I unable to follow these instructions??? Must be the crappy theme on http://community.aegirproject.org/ ;) |
| [09:00:06] | <delibalta1> | but.. openpublish dont install |
| [09:00:44] | <delibalta1> | provision and drush problem |
| [09:01:38] | <LunkRat> | OK BAM I busted out another ln -s /var/aegir/config/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/aegir.conf |
| [09:02:26] | <LunkRat> | and that worked. thanks anarcat. does this step come after the install.sh? or before? or no matter? |
| [09:02:35] | <anarcat> | LunkRat: before, i believe |
| [09:03:23] | <LunkRat> | hmm i did that before . . . oh well. again my apologies for my inability to follow the simple install docs |
| [09:03:27] | <delibalta1> | milk_ are you here |
| [09:03:49] | <LunkRat> | i HAVE set up mythTV, so you'd think this would be cake |
| [09:03:57] | <anarcat> | wow :) |
| [09:04:04] | <anarcat> | i didn't get myth to work :P |
| [09:04:12] | <anarcat> | went with xbmc, works like a charm :) |
| [09:04:38] | <LunkRat> | yeah i recently ditched the myth for Boxee and I don't myth it at all |
| [09:04:38] | <mxrhd> | cool thanks omega8cc |
| [09:04:59] | <milk_> | delibalta1; have you checked the documentation? |
| [09:06:01] | <delibalta1> | yes. i check |
| [09:06:11] | <delibalta1> | but my english not very well |
| [09:06:14] | <delibalta1> | pls. help me |
| [09:06:37] | <LunkRat> | why would I get access denied on the password reset link? |
| [09:06:59] | <mxrhd> | Is the Omega8cc a reliable host? |
| [09:07:36] | <mxrhd> | The name it self, the design of the website and images just scream lowbudget project, but what they offer is cool |
| [09:08:04] | <LunkRat> | @mxrhd: hah! |
| [09:08:21] | <mxrhd> | ? =) |
| [09:08:39] | <mxrhd> | I bet they are the guys behind the whole aegir project and i just amde a fool of myself, hehe |
| [09:08:47] | <LunkRat> | lol |
| [09:08:49] | <anarcat> | hehe |
| [09:09:11] | <anarcat> | omega8cc is one of the contributors to the aegir project, indeed, they provide patches for Nginx support |
| [09:09:34] | <omega8cc> | mxrhd: it is all by design - for geeks only ;) |
| [09:09:44] | <mxrhd> | hehe cool |
| [09:09:48] | <mxrhd> | thats' why i asked |
| [09:09:53] | <mxrhd> | im totaly into the text |
| [09:10:04] | <mxrhd> | but well yeah http://omega8.cc/sites/omega8.cc/files/images/red-green-blue.png |
| [09:10:07] | <mxrhd> | :D |
| [09:10:26] | <LunkRat> | yeah ... cheesy sunset cloud backgrounds and pictures of cars |
| [09:10:32] | <mxrhd> | ^^ |
| [09:11:29] | <omega8cc> | yeah, because we don't sell servers, we don't sell vps hosting, we sell speed experience for drupal geeks |
| [09:11:55] | <LunkRat> | i'll buy some speed! |
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| [09:13:55] | <mxrhd> | omega8cc: can I get the Aegir mini vps in EU? |
| [09:14:04] | <omega8cc> | however, from time to time we have to send some folks back to drupal school, as it is not obvious for some, that using high performance host is not a proper fix for their 300+ modules slow site |
| [09:14:22] | <mxrhd> | hehe |
| [09:14:30] | <omega8cc> | mxrhd: yes, in Amsterdam or London |
| [09:14:42] | <mxrhd> | Sweet. Acceptable uptime? |
| [09:14:51] | <mxrhd> | ;D |
| [09:15:13] | <mxrhd> | i wont spam you with questiosn here, ill test the demo and get back to you via mail |
| [09:15:18] | <mxrhd> | the offer looks great though |
| [09:15:50] | <omega8cc> | you should ask people around maybe, but AMS is currently far far more reliable than London location |
| [09:16:05] | <mxrhd> | cool, great tip, thank you |
| [09:16:28] | <mxrhd> | My case is this: I'ma professional web developer who needs some system to keep track of private drupal installations, where i mostly make small portfolio/broschuresites for friends and family |
| [09:16:39] | <mxrhd> | so that vps plan looks perfect |
| [09:17:03] | <mxrhd> | wont be any high traffic/business crital things |
| [09:17:43] | <omega8cc> | indeed, that is why some well know drupal folks like it - bmann, mortendk and many others |
| [09:18:18] | <mxrhd> | sweet, some high profile people using it and endorsing it was just what i wanted |
| [09:18:20] | <mxrhd> | hehe |
| [09:21:22] | <mxrhd> | fuck this is awesome |
| [09:21:37] | <omega8cc> | yeah, we decided to allow this startup to grow organically, in the drupal world, yet, some drupal stars are loving it already |
| [09:25:19] | <mxrhd> | you should be more vocal with your offers omega8cc, there are so many people who manage a lot of small drupalsites that would love this! |
| [09:25:38] | <mxrhd> | if it runs as smooth as you say, hehe |
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| [09:26:16] | <delibalta1> | pls |
| [09:26:42] | <delibalta1> | Is there going to help? |
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| [09:28:32] | <delibalta1> | PROVISION_SITE_INSTALLED |
| [09:28:32] | <delibalta1> | An error occurred at function : drush_provision_drupal_provision_install_validate |
| [09:28:33] | <delibalta1> | An error occurred at function : drush_hosting_task |
| [09:28:48] | <delibalta1> | i install openpublish.. error |
| [09:28:51] | <delibalta1> | pls.. help me |
| [09:29:13] | <mxrhd> | so AEGIR basicly is a interface Drush, with some added awesomeness? |
| [09:29:22] | <omega8cc> | mxrhd: we don't do any promo (yet) since our core idea is to help many small drupal hosting startups to open Aegir hosting on every corner and not to grow big and dominate, so we are a bit different probably, also, almost all of this is open sourced and anyone can install speedy drupal on any good vps |
| [09:29:34] | <mxrhd> | It uses Drush make when you make your own Plattforms, right? |
| [09:29:53] | <mxrhd> | Oh it is? |
| [09:30:12] | * anarcat hesitates to make a frontend debian package that will actually break with the hostmaster-migrate (ie. non-destructive upgrades) traddition |
| [09:30:21] | <omega8cc> | yes, drush make magic is here |
| [09:30:34] | <anarcat> | the problem is that debian packages overwrite the pervious version: The new package's files are unpacked, overwriting any that may be on the system already, for example any from the old version of the same package or from another package. Backups of the old files are kept temporarily, and if anything goes wrong the package management system will attempt to put them back as part of the error unwind. |
| [09:30:52] | <delibalta1> | hey |
| [09:31:15] | <anarcat> | delibalta1: we can help you, once you answer our questions |
| [09:31:38] | <anarcat> | delibalta1: you wrote to me in private, i asked you to read the http://community.aegirproject.org/bugs page, which should have told you to submit a pastebin of the task log |
| [09:32:11] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: so, how the upgrades are supposed to work with apt then? sounds dangerous a bit |
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| [09:33:40] | <omega8cc> | mxrhd: http://developmentseed.org/blog/2010/sep/11/aegir-04-alpha-13-drush-make... |
| [09:33:50] | <anarcat> | delibalta1: actually, that page doesn't say it, but at this point we need a copy of the failed task log |
| [09:34:07] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: i know! |
| [09:34:12] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: i am not sure how to deal with this |
| [09:35:47] | <anarcat> | esp. since there's no real rollback after the files have been untarred by dpkg |
| [09:37:31] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: I'm afraid only backend can be safely upgraded with this method, no? there should be a way to marry our command line upgrade beauty with apt.. maybe package should not replace anything in the frontend and instead run latest version of upgrade script, like mysql does for its stuff when version is upgraded? |
| [09:38:12] | <anarcat> | i wasn't aware of special things mysql was doing... |
| [09:38:37] | <anarcat> | aaah, better: http://wiki.debian.org/MaintainerScripts |
| [09:38:38] | <omega8cc> | it runs tables upgrades etc |
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| [09:40:12] | <omega8cc> | hah, looks great, so the power is already in place |
| [09:40:23] | <mxrhd> | omega8cc: in your mini vps package it says "8 sites". That's 32 meg per site, that's shouldnt be doable is it? |
| [09:40:28] | <mxrhd> | of ram that is |
| [09:41:30] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: mysql doesn't do anything special, from reading the debian package - it just untars the files in place and upgrades your DB, if it fails, you're pretty much screwed and need to downgrade manually |
| [09:42:13] | <anarcat> | i believe my best bet is to use the postrm upgrade hook in the *old* package |
| [09:43:04] | <anarcat> | but in general, the staged upgrade approach of aegir is just not compatible with Debian's way of packaging |
| [09:43:17] | <anarcat> | there is always only one version of a debian package files installed |
| [09:43:25] | <anarcat> | you can't have the two like we have now |
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| [09:43:34] | <anarcat> | anyways |
| [09:43:37] | <omega8cc> | yeah |
| [09:43:47] | <anarcat> | i was attempting to split the two packages now at least, to have aegir-provision in unstable |
| [09:43:55] | <anarcat> | that would already simplify things |
| [09:44:36] | <omega8cc> | mxrhd: in fact there is no longer any limit on the number of sites, there is a 256 MB (soft) limit for all databases on Mini now, we will explain it all better soon, as we don't sell RAM or CPU etc, so it can't be compared with anything in the vps world |
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| [09:48:40] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: right, the upgrade with apt (mysql) is a one-way journey, no roll-back, while we need to use our built-in rollback somehow |
| [09:49:33] | <mxrhd> | i understand if you can't be arsed to explain it, but what do you mean you don't sell ram? I understand that there is burst-RAM, but that isnt very unique or do you mena somethign else? |
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| [09:59:57] | <omega8cc> | mxrhd: sure, we use and allocate RAM, CPU, disk etc, but we are not in a vps/cloud hosting business, it is an Aegir Drupal SaaS, hence the difference, we are making things simple (as possible), it is not about RAM or CPU, we don't sell PC/Windows experience, we sell smokin fast drupal experience :) |
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| [10:01:07] | <mxrhd> | hehe yeah ok, the reason im focusing on the ram is that i want to calculate how many sites i'll be able to run on one mini-vps installation |
| [10:01:17] | <mxrhd> | if i'm runnign out, can i upgrade the ram? |
| [10:02:03] | <vegardx> | You can usually host huge amounts of sites when it comes to multi-site setups. But with multiple /installations/ you quickly start dumping cache in order to insert new. |
| [10:02:20] | <vegardx> | It more or less depends on how many hits you recieve |
| [10:03:09] | <omega8cc> | mxrhd: upgrades are for classic managed option, the mini is.. mini |
| [10:03:38] | <omega8cc> | mxrhd: but yes, you can upgrade from mini to classic easily |
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| [10:10:22] | <mxrhd> | aight, cool. |
| [10:11:49] | <Met4physica> | omega8cc's stuff is badass fyi |
| [10:11:53] | <Met4physica> | that's just my random recommendation |
| [10:15:09] | <mxrhd> | Why can I add clients in AEGIR? What functionality does that give me except creating users in the Drupal installations? |
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| [10:28:52] | <omega8cc> | mxrhd: see http://community.aegirproject.org/node/28 and http://community.aegirproject.org/node/496 |
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| [10:34:41] | <mxrhd> | cool thank you |
| [10:47:45] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/503 |
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| [10:57:16] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: good idea to discuss it on c.a.o, I need to think about it and then maybe add some idea, it could be really cool both for newbies and those (like me) a bit tired with running custom (and slow) upgrades via scripts instead of apt on so many servers |
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| [10:59:23] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: but, you know, it raises the bar for our upgrade testing before every release to the some high level |
