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| [11:01:20] | <hefring> | community => How to package the frontend in Debian? => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/503 |
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| [11:09:05] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: yep - it does |
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| [11:09:19] | <anarcat> | the upside though is that we have really controled versions with debian |
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| [11:09:47] | <omega8cc> | right |
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| [11:56:43] | <boztek> | Does update.php get run on a site verify? |
| [11:57:00] | <boztek> | #lazyIRC |
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| [12:04:01] | <mig5> | no |
| [12:04:10] | <mig5> | only on provision-deploy, the 'hidden' command run by clone/migrate |
| [12:04:36] | <mig5> | oh, and maybe on restore as a result |
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| [13:27:34] | <acbot> | Hey all, anyone know in what file in provision the email is set for uid on the provisioned site |
| [13:28:00] | <acbot> | nevermind.. found it |
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| [13:30:22] | <anarcat> | mig5: it be curious to hear your opinion about debian packaging: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/503 |
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| [13:43:23] | <LunkRat> | where do I donate to the aegir project? |
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| [13:44:26] | <LunkRat> | I am just exploring my first installation, and it is making my adrenaline surge seeing all that it can do! |
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| [13:45:27] | <LunkRat> | holy F i've worked with Drupal multisites on shared hosts for years ... I already feel silly for the amount of manual work I do daily |
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| [13:46:30] | <mig5> | LunkRat: you can give Koumbit.org money maybe, ask anarcat :) |
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| [13:46:32] | <mig5> | anarcat: thanks for the link |
| [13:46:38] | <mig5> | tricky |
| [13:47:52] | <LunkRat> | mig5 thanks I will be supporting this project as I already know that it will drastically help my business |
| [13:55:38] | <LunkRat> | is it normal for a new install to show two servers: "hostname" and "localhost" ? |
| [13:56:37] | <LunkRat> | "hostname" has Database: no | Web:apache |
| [13:57:07] | <LunkRat> | "localhost" has Database:mysql | Web:no |
| [13:58:03] | <mig5> | yes |
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| [13:58:32] | <mig5> | it just means you can't use the 'database' element for remote web servers (but you could set up other remote database servers for those web servers, or run both on the same remote server) |
| [13:58:45] | <mig5> | if you aren't going to be using multiple servers, nothing to worry about |
| [13:59:55] | <LunkRat> | thanks. i do plan on using multiple servers |
| [14:00:07] | <LunkRat> | someday, not right away though |
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| [14:20:05] | <mig5> | anarcat: ping |
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| [14:27:46] | <anarcat> | mig5: pong |
| [14:28:17] | <mig5> | i was wondering if the frontend could depend on the drupal6 package (whether drupal6 could be dragged in to be the target platform) |
| [14:28:20] | <mig5> | but then i forgot about the .make |
| [14:28:23] | <mig5> | to fetch other dependencies |
| [14:29:18] | <mig5> | i am more and more convinced that we can't really perfectly adhere to the traditional debian package process etc. i see it becoming more and more like stuff like Flash, that call a shell script in the postinst or wherever that compelte the job |
| [14:29:39] | <mig5> | maybe nasty, but not out of recklessness, just due to those requirements |
| [14:30:16] | <anarcat> | indeed |
| [14:30:17] | <mig5> | (i mean a shell script that completes the job, i.e wget's any remaining stuff etc) |
| [14:30:24] | <anarcat> | that's the way i did it originally, in aegir-provision |
| [14:30:29] | <anarcat> | but it seemed... hackish |
| [14:30:41] | <mig5> | anyway what i mean is that, there are definitely such things in debian already |
| [14:30:47] | <mig5> | so don't feel bad :) |
| [14:30:56] | <mig5> | but i will try and think about it, see if a good idea pops into my head |
| [14:30:57] | <anarcat> | i'm thinking either of doing the upgrade in place, and be kosher, with dependencies and all, which could be quite difficult |
| [14:31:35] | <anarcat> | or try to make a "aegir-frontend" package within the aegir-provision package (a single source package can generate multiple binaries) that would be made only of scripts that would install the frontend from aegir-provision |
| [14:31:49] | <mig5> | so does drupal6 do an in-place upgrade? i suppose it does |
| [14:31:52] | <anarcat> | i also asked other debian developers for help, as a last ditch attempt |
| [14:32:04] | <anarcat> | because so far my requests to them have stayed mostly unanswered |
| [14:32:12] | <mig5> | hrm |
| [14:32:15] | <anarcat> | mig5: i wrote the d6 maintainer in debian a few times, no response |
| [14:32:24] | <anarcat> | i don't see updatedb being ran in the d6 package |
| [14:32:24] | <mig5> | great |
| [14:32:38] | <mig5> | updatedb is one thing, i mean how does it replace the files? |
| [14:32:40] | <anarcat> | and in fact, there's no dependency on drush, so i'm not sure how it does the upgrade, it sure looks like it just doesn't update |
| [14:32:43] | <mig5> | it must do an in-place replacement? |
| [14:32:43] | <anarcat> | i just trashes them |
| [14:32:46] | <mig5> | ah |
| [14:32:46] | <anarcat> | yes |
| [14:32:57] | <anarcat> | well, that's the way i read it anyways |
| [14:33:16] | <anarcat> | i'm not so concerned about trashing the files in place - we can run hostmaster-suspend and all the stuff in the right hooks |
| [14:33:22] | <mig5> | ok |
| [14:33:26] | <anarcat> | my concern is duplicating hostmaster-migrate within the debian scripts |
| [14:33:34] | <anarcat> | then we have two set of upgrade scripts to maintain |
| [14:33:38] | <anarcat> | that behave differently too |
| [14:33:52] | <anarcat> | and the debian upgrade path becomes this unique fucked up thing that i'm the only one to truly understand |
| [14:34:03] | <anarcat> | so yeah, i think i share your opinion |
| [14:34:12] | <anarcat> | i just want to give one last chance to debian purists to find a solution |
| [14:34:21] | <mig5> | sure thing |
| [14:35:20] | <anarcat> | still |
| [14:35:26] | <anarcat> | i *am* a debian purist ffs :P |
| [14:35:35] | <mig5> | :) |
| [14:36:59] | * anarcat reading migrate.hostmaster.inc again |
| [14:37:39] | <anarcat> | what it really does is 1. verifying the server, platform and site |
| [14:37:44] | <anarcat> | 2. hostmaster-pause |
| [14:37:49] | <anarcat> | 3. crontab -r |
| [14:37:51] | <mig5> | i've never understood pause |
| [14:37:54] | <mig5> | :) |
| [14:37:55] | <anarcat> | 4. provision-migrate |
| [14:38:00] | <anarcat> | 5. hostmaster-resume |
| [14:38:07] | <anarcat> | 6. crontab -e |
| [14:39:12] | <anarcat> | you know what, i can't find it either |
| [14:39:22] | <mig5> | the command doesn't exist as far as I know |
| [14:39:42] | <mig5> | but resume.hostmaster.inc exists in modules/hosting/ |
| [14:39:44] | <mig5> | :) |
| [14:39:54] | <mig5> | ... |
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| [14:41:25] | <anarcat> | clearly pause doesn't exist at all |
| [14:41:25] | <mig5> | oh nice - an ohloh block on community.aegirproject.org |
| [14:41:26] | <mig5> | looks nice |
| [14:41:54] | <anarcat> | i don't actually know wtf this is supposed to do |
| [14:42:16] | <mig5> | maybe pause existed once upon a time but was ripped out? |
| [14:42:33] | <anarcat> | maybe? |
| [14:42:34] | <anarcat> | dunno |
| [14:42:55] | <anarcat> | i didn't work on it, istr that Vertice said we needed it and i just nodded :) |
| [14:43:11] | <mig5> | :) |
| [14:43:16] | <mig5> | yes it's a Vertice special |
| [14:43:26] | <mig5> | looking through http://drupalcode.org/project/hosting.git |
| [14:43:52] | <mig5> | before pause/resume we had park/unpark |
| [14:43:55] | <mig5> | http://drupalcode.org/project/hosting.git/tree/ec78f77c18c780a4a7878ce78... |
| [14:44:12] | <mig5> | 6.x-0.4-alpha2 |
| [14:44:44] | <mig5> | it looks like resume replaced unpark, but pause never replaced park in real life (just in spirit? :) ) |
| [14:44:46] | <anarcat> | i think the crontab -r belongs there, basically |
| [14:44:50] | <mig5> | ah |
| [14:44:57] | <mig5> | of course, to 'pause' the dispatcher |
| [14:45:07] | <mig5> | i wondered if it did a provision-disable |
| [14:45:14] | <mig5> | but that might actually cause problems for the migrate itself |
| [14:45:15] | <anarcat> | that's a good track |
| [14:45:20] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [14:46:26] | <mig5> | http://drupalcode.org/project/hosting.git/commitdiff/bee2ef533f2afbdab90... |
| [14:46:29] | <anarcat> | maybe we could refactor in pause all the crap we do in the validate |
| [14:46:29] | <mig5> | there we go |
| [14:46:32] | <mig5> | The park command in 0.4 alpha2 had an error that would stop it from every being succesfully migrated. the command has been renamed to pause, and unpark command has been renamed to resume. |
| [14:47:12] | <mig5> | note: the park command was a dummy command anyway it seemed |
| [14:47:19] | <mig5> | so that's why we didn't replace it with anything 'real' perhaps. |
| [14:47:35] | <mig5> | in fact it was a function with nothing in it, and a bunch of TODOs :) |
| [14:47:49] | <anarcat> | pause would be good to implement anyways, implementing thsoe todos exactly |
| [14:47:58] | <mig5> | yeah. the 'failed migrate task' confuses me |
| [14:47:59] | <mig5> | but yeah |
| [14:48:16] | <mig5> | anyway - i have sailed us offtrack completely |
| [14:48:24] | <mig5> | pause won't help your conundrum with debian probably :) |
| [14:48:39] | <anarcat> | well |
| [14:48:51] | <anarcat> | having hostmaster-migrate splitted in easily callable things could help |
| [14:50:09] | <anarcat> | because then i could do only parts of it in the debian scripts |
| [14:50:28] | <anarcat> | like this |
| [14:50:38] | <anarcat> | pre-inst: verify |
| [14:50:51] | <anarcat> | hostmaster-pause |
| [14:50:55] | <anarcat> | unpack files |
| [14:51:01] | <anarcat> | updatedb |
| [14:51:10] | <anarcat> | hostmaster-resume |
| [14:51:12] | <anarcat> | good luck buddy |
| [14:51:40] | <anarcat> | pre-inst should also do a provision-backup, just for kicks |
| [14:51:46] | <mig5> | it sounds like you are still having to duplicate migrate.hostmaster.inc maybe, but at least it doesn't really *differ* in what it does |
| [14:52:14] | <mig5> | oh, well i guess there's no migrate |
| [14:52:28] | <mig5> | provision-migrate i mean |
| [14:52:31] | <mig5> | ignore me |
| [14:54:37] | <anarcat> | yeah, that's why i'm saying ... we make hostmaster-migrate so simple that it's trivial to copy it |
| [14:54:51] | <anarcat> | in fact we could even make a special flag so that it would do updatedb instead of provision-migrate |
| [14:56:09] | <mig5> | does that help much? the only other thing provision-migrate will do there is backup the site, which is what you want to do as well anyway. or is this so that you can allow an in-place upgrade |
| [14:56:35] | <anarcat> | well, provision-migrate will probably not like you migrating to the same platform :P |
| [14:56:44] | <anarcat> | and it ditches the backup, doesn't it? |
| [14:57:01] | <mig5> | no |
| [14:57:07] | <mig5> | oh |
| [14:57:09] | <mig5> | i didn't think so anyway |
| [14:57:41] | <anarcat> | i think so :) |
| [14:57:41] | <omega8cc> | no, backup is always left there |
| [14:57:44] | <anarcat> | ah |
| [14:57:45] | <anarcat> | oh well |
| [14:57:52] | <anarcat> | whatever |
| [14:58:06] | <anarcat> | my point is: provision-migrate will not like migrating to the same platform |
| [14:58:57] | <anarcat> | but we can have a flag on hostmaster-migrate which will upgrade in place |
| [14:59:00] | <mig5> | right - i just wanted to confirm whether the aim here was to allow an in-place upgrade |
| [14:59:06] | <anarcat> | it is |
| [14:59:07] | <mig5> | cool |
| [14:59:14] | <anarcat> | i'm still uncertain |
| [14:59:20] | <anarcat> | i'll wait for debian people feedback |
| [14:59:34] | <anarcat> | i do not want to be stuck with the drupal6 debian package TBH |
| [15:02:12] | <anarcat> | if they tell me "you can't have your own copy of the drupal code", i am likely to say fuck this |
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| [15:02:52] | <mig5> | i still don't know how we'll ever keep the debian versions up to date with the pace of our dev |
| [15:02:57] | <mig5> | and our pace is not even that pacey! :) |
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| [15:03:05] | <omega8cc> | why not embed our copy? with pressflow maybe so the couldn't say - use drupal6 etc, and later when we will move to d7 we don't need to wait for never responding debian maintainer |
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| [15:04:28] | <anarcat> | mig5: how do you mean? i uploaded drush 4.4 and aegir-provision 1.0-rc2 already... |
| [15:04:37] | <omega8cc> | yeah, that can be "debian" fun |
| [15:04:48] | <omega8cc> | ah |
| [15:04:55] | <omega8cc> | so no delay |
| [15:05:29] | <mig5> | right, but will it only really exist in backports? |
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| [15:05:52] | <omega8cc> | hah, probably? |
| [15:07:26] | <mig5> | anarcat seems more optimistic about the modernity of debian than I am :) |
| [15:07:36] | <mig5> | it cannot come as a shock to realise it lags behind |
| [15:07:43] | <mig5> | (and don't get me wrong, it's really all I use) |
| [15:08:18] | <anarcat> | unstable -> testing -> backports |
| [15:08:20] | <mig5> | what i mean is, 1.0-rc2 and 4.4 might exist in sid, but i only use stable repos |
| [15:08:21] | <mig5> | right |
| [15:08:52] | <mig5> | it will probably be good for the 1.0 release |
| [15:09:06] | <mig5> | an official, stable and easily-accessible verison, while we hack the crap out of a 2.x branch :) |
| [15:09:15] | <anarcat> | that can be experimental |
| [15:09:23] | <mig5> | i'm going to name every second file eugenmayer.module |
| [15:09:49] | <anarcat> | i am not sure we should be making debian packages of the 2.x branch, tbh |
| [15:10:15] | <anarcat> | but yeah, i'm not worried about debian |
| [15:10:59] | <mig5> | i just wondered if you'd have found it faster/less effort in the long run to have an aegirproject repo |
| [15:11:06] | <mig5> | but i guess it's the same argument as our own git repos or git.drupal.org |
| [15:11:12] | <mig5> | pros and cons |
| [15:12:55] | <anarcat> | it's not less effort for me to have a separate repo |
| [15:13:14] | <anarcat> | it's less effort not to have to backport, however, that i must agree |
| [15:13:29] | <anarcat> | but i'm the kinda guy that will take the .deb straight from unstable anyways :P |
| [15:13:34] | <anarcat> | that works, yaknow ;) |
| [15:13:38] | <mig5> | you wild thing |
| [15:13:52] | <mig5> | that's being Purist?! :) |
| [15:13:58] | <mig5> | i suppose it is pure debian :P |
| [15:13:58] | <omega8cc> | lol |
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| [15:14:41] | <anarcat> | and i may just upload to debian.koumbit.net for my own tests too, i just don't want this to be the standard way, as it's less reliable |
| [15:15:14] | <anarcat> | you know that's what people do with puppet - they take it straight from testing |
| [15:15:18] | <anarcat> | and don't actually backport |
| [15:15:23] | <mig5> | ugh |
| [15:15:29] | <mig5> | i find puppet in squeeze to be pretty good |
| [15:15:39] | <anarcat> | yeah, but think before squeeze :) |
| [15:15:42] | <mig5> | but i only use it *on* squeeze |
| [15:15:43] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [15:16:01] | <mig5> | did you ever play with Vertice's aegir puppet manifests? |
| [15:16:18] | <mig5> | i half-considered you could depend on puppet ind ebian and just execute them in your inst scripts :D |
| [15:16:25] | <mig5> | they are probably out of date though |
| [15:16:49] | <anarcat> | that seems like an even worse idea :P |
| [15:16:54] | <mig5> | heehee |
| [15:17:09] | <mig5> | standalone puppet manifests ftw |
| [15:17:13] | <anarcat> | geez |
| [15:17:19] | <anarcat> | i'll keep my postinst, thank you :P |
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| [15:18:17] | <LunkRat> | is there a doc for migrating an existing multisite setup to aegir? |
| [15:19:50] | <anarcat> | yes, there is |
| [15:30:49] | <anarcat> | mig5: http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/3ff007b9ec399fd62... |
| [15:31:05] | <anarcat> | mig5: here's the frontend installer that i just ripped off before uploading to ftp-master.debian.org |
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| [15:46:35] | <cmcintosh> | more stuff should be feature exportable |
| [15:46:37] | <cmcintosh> | : / |
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| [15:56:48] | <anarcat> | alright, i got a first response from my co-debian devs |
| [15:57:02] | <anarcat> | basically, they're saying "no, you can't ship copies of code, that's looking for trouble" |
| [15:57:13] | <anarcat> | so shipping a .deb with a drupal copy embeded is a no no |
| [15:57:22] | <cmcintosh> | why is that? |
| [15:58:18] | <cmcintosh> | i ship code all of the time, course most of my stuff is encrypted with truecrypt before i send it |
| [15:58:21] | <anarcat> | however, provision could deploy copies of drupal that would be non-packaged |
| [15:58:24] | <anarcat> | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/footnotes.html#f28 |
| [15:58:27] | <cmcintosh> | some sort of international laws or somethin |
| [15:58:44] | <cmcintosh> | ah a debian thing huh |
| [15:58:49] | <anarcat> | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-embeddedfiles |
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| [15:59:59] | <cmcintosh> | hmm |
| [16:00:09] | <cmcintosh> | i guess they sort of got a point |
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| [16:05:02] | <mig5> | not too different to drupal policies |
| [16:05:04] | <mig5> | :) |
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| [16:08:26] | <anarcat> | mig5: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/503#comment-587 |
| [16:09:04] | <cmcintosh> | hehe |
| [16:09:06] | <cmcintosh> | oops |
| [16:09:41] | <cmcintosh> | well most of the stuff i send is along the lines of themes, which unless your doing something really wacky your okay |
| [16:09:58] | <cmcintosh> | there is the occasional customer who requires a physical copy of the site work |
| [16:11:07] | <anarcat> | anyways, good night |
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| [18:01:48] | <cmcintosh> | got a odd question, anyone got an idea how i could go about setting up a file quota directory for a new site's folder, created by aegir |
| [18:02:02] | <cmcintosh> | i was thinking of writting some sort of drush script |
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| [19:34:36] | <cmcintosh> | wonder how hard it would be to reset user 2's password |
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| [20:40:45] | <delibalta> | hi. |
| [20:44:22] | <cmcintosh> | wonder how hard it would be to reset user 2's password |
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| [20:47:49] | <delibalta> | Zlende ? |
| [20:47:52] | <delibalta> | are ou here |
| [20:47:57] | <delibalta> | are you here |
| [20:48:05] | <Zlender> | delibalta: me? I am here yeah |
| [20:48:19] | <delibalta> | are you using drupal ? |
| [20:49:17] | <Zlender> | delibalta: yes |
| [20:49:24] | <delibalta> | weel |
| [20:49:27] | <delibalta> | well |
| [20:49:34] | <delibalta> | any using openpublish? |
| [20:49:43] | <Zlender> | nope |
| [20:49:58] | <delibalta> | i have a problem |
| [20:50:07] | <delibalta> | i using aegir hosting systems |
| [20:50:22] | <delibalta> | i want install openpublish |
| [20:50:24] | <delibalta> | but |
| [20:50:29] | <delibalta> | error |
| [20:50:35] | <delibalta> | drus and provision |
| [20:51:22] | <delibalta> | i cant install openpublish |
| [20:51:26] | <delibalta> | can you help me ? |
| [20:51:46] | <Zlender> | delibalta: sorry can't really help you there, you might have better luck if you open a ticket and put all the debug output in there so folks that know how this things work can help |
| [20:51:59] | <Zlender> | delibalta: check out http://community.aegirproject.org/bugs |
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| [21:47:43] | <delibalta> | Zlender |
| [21:47:50] | <delibalta> | i writing. aegir |
| [21:47:51] | <Zlender> | delibalta: ? |
| [21:47:56] | <delibalta> | but.. aegir not support |
| [21:48:05] | <Zlender> | not sure I understand |
| [21:48:57] | <delibalta> | i send message. but aegir come back me... |
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| [21:50:39] | <delibalta> | the problem did not improve |
| [21:51:01] | <delibalta> | does not support aegir |
| [21:51:35] | <Zlender> | delibalta: I'm sorry I have no context regarding what you're talking about, are you saying openpublish doesn't support aegir? |
| [21:51:38] | <delibalta> | opened to support IRC channel. but do not have that support. |
| [21:53:12] | <delibalta> | aegir does not support. I think too busy. Our customers have lost |
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| [21:57:31] | <delibalta> | I regret for using Aegir. No support. No communication. No one in the middle. |
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| [23:13:39] | <mig5> | i do love a troll |
| [23:21:43] | <grape> | they are so cute |
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| [23:36:41] | <ember_> | smthomas and adrinux: Thanks for your help. There was an issue with the root user. It is now installed. I finally get to play! |
| [23:36:44] | <ember_> | exit |
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| [00:16:37] | <cmcintosh> | if i have an error in an install profile will aegir purposely ignore that profile on a verify? |
| [00:16:47] | <cmcintosh> | or will the whole platform fail verification? |
| [00:22:03] | <cmcintosh> | mig5 think he had a organic digital interface issue |
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| [00:44:11] | <markwk> | I was just trying out Omega8's Barracuda script and didn't seem to work at all. Major dependencies failed like mariadb and php-fpm+sohosin. I am Ubuntu 10.04 Server seems like it should work without much trouble. Any ideas? |
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| [00:58:10] | <omega8cc> | markwk: maybe submit an issue with all required details about your system (see the readme for bug submission guidelines) |
| [00:59:46] | <markwk> | omega8cc: ok. I submitted on github in relation to another comment. I'll check the guidelines. Thanks |
| [00:59:56] | <omega8cc> | ok, thanks |
| [01:01:00] | <markwk> | Is it possible that I don't have the proper source lists with apt-get? |
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| [02:30:41] | <darthsteven> | Hello, I'm trying to import an existing site on a remote server, do I have to move it to the central Aegir server first? |
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| [02:32:56] | <anarcat> | right now, yes. |
| [02:33:15] | <anarcat> | http://drupal.org/node/1079330 |
| [02:33:47] | <darthsteven> | ah okay |
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| [02:40:10] | <darthsteven> | Is my best bet to set up a platform with the site on the master, then set up a new platform on the remote server and do a migration? |
| [02:43:05] | <darthsteven> | also, Aegir seems to have just rsync'd the ENTIRE /var/aegir/platforms directory over to the new server, I don't need all my other platforms over there too |
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| [02:46:28] | <anarcat> | yep, agreed |
| [02:46:53] | <gillo> | hi all, quick question. I'm writing a proposal about a drupal deployment system and know that Aegir could be the right solution for it. However, since this should serve many websites in different countries, webmasters are afraid that if the master aegir server goes down, everything goes down. |
| [02:48:07] | <gillo> | I guess this is not the case, but i should point them to some info where it's clear that they could rely on a server machine based in their country (also for speed of delivery). |
| [02:53:46] | <omega8cc> | gillo: all remote heads are working independently, they are managed from central hostmaster but they will work also when you turn off hostmaster server, see: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/446 |
| [02:55:08] | <gillo> | thanks I'm having a look right now |
| [02:55:39] | <omega8cc> | darthsteven: also: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/446 |
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| [03:06:57] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: pm? |
| [03:10:32] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: i'm going out for lunch, later? |
| [03:11:08] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: sure, however it is a rather simple short question |
| [03:11:53] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: ping me when you will have a minute later |
| [03:12:47] | <gillo> | omega8cc: thanks, that was perfect. |
| [03:13:49] | <omega8cc> | gillo: np |
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| [03:54:58] | <pkej1> | I have a question about domain names. I have one domain set up via dyndns, example.com. Then I have other domains set up with another hosting provider. I first tried to add a CNAME record for example2.com like so: *.example2.com CNAME example.com. |
| [03:55:14] | <kalebas> | hi all |
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| [03:55:25] | <kalebas> | is it possible to run aegir if nginx frontend and backend Apache? |
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| [03:55:44] | <pkej1> | From inside my own network I can access aegir created sites pointing to *.example2.com |
| [03:56:05] | <pkej1> | but it came to my attention that I can't access those from outside; I only get access denied. |
| [03:56:22] | <pkej1> | anyone with an idea about what to do? |
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| [03:57:29] | <pkej1> | BTW, I also tried to add WWW-forwarding with cloaking of the domain name. This solution works worse than the CNAME solution, as I get flakey behaviour from my private network. |
| [03:58:34] | <pkej1> | Of course I can not use A records in DNS since I have a dynamic IP address. |
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| [04:26:02] | <markwk> | omega8cc: still no luck on the install script. I posted an issue on github, thanks for the script in any case... |
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| [04:31:49] | <omega8cc> | markwk: thanks, added a comment there |
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| [04:37:59] | <kalebas> | is it possible to run aegir if nginx frontend and backend Apache? |
| [04:42:54] | <kalebas> | Who are these people?))) |
| [04:43:01] | <omega8cc> | kalebas: no |
| [04:45:04] | <omega8cc> | kalebas: Aegir manages Apache *or* Nginx vhosts, not both, so even adding Nginx proxy in front doesn't make any sense, because the proxy will know nothing about vhost root directory to serve static files etc |
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| [04:51:28] | <kalebas> | sorry |
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| [05:29:36] | <bertodsera> | does anyone know how I can change the /var/aegir path into smth else? |
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| [05:34:43] | <omega8cc> | bertodsera: you could use --aegir_root=/some/other/path on install, of course it should be your Aegir user home directory |
| [05:36:46] | <bertodsera> | omega8cc: you mean on install? |
| [05:37:30] | <bertodsera> | My situazion is, I originally installed on /var/aegir, after a migration I have it only as a symlink (the real dir being /home/web/aegir) |
| [05:37:51] | <bertodsera> | I wish I could simply access the config and update it, then I can kill the symlink |
| [05:39:18] | <omega8cc> | bertodsera: I don't think it is a good idea, as then you will need to manually change paths in drush aliases, in hostmaster tables etc etc, really bad idea |
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| [05:40:31] | <omega8cc> | it could be better to install Aegir in a new dir and then import there your platforms/sites |
| [05:41:28] | <bertodsera> | omega8cc: hmmm will try that |
| [05:51:02] | <omega8cc> | now, where is the page in the handbook with title like "Why Aegir?" |
| [05:51:22] | <omega8cc> | where it has been moved? |
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| [05:53:36] | <shrop> | Anyone running different mysql and www servers with one aegir front end? |
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| [05:53:44] | <joestewart> | omega8cc: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/217 ? |
| [05:53:47] | <shrop> | v1.0rc2? |
| [05:54:35] | <shrop> | Just wanted to confirm that it is working ok with 1.0rc2. I see web clusters may not be working |
| [05:54:37] | <shrop> | Cluster servers are probably broken right now (#1016890) *Aliases are not persisted across Migrate, (Rename), Clone (provision-deploy) (#1004526) |
| [05:54:59] | <shrop> | but that is more for load balancing not assigning site sites to different db srvers and www servers? |
| [05:55:00] | <shrop> | thanks |
| [05:55:50] | <omega8cc> | joestewart: ah, right, the title has changed so I assumed it is something different now, thanks |
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| [07:17:46] | <LunkRat> | when i ssh into the aegir server and work with files, what is a best practice for ensuring that my tar and wget commands result in files that aegir and apache can access? |
| [07:18:27] | <LunkRat> | or do I just get used to using chown and chmod all the time |
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| [07:55:58] | <joestewart> | LunkRat: regular aegir or Barracuda? |
| [07:56:05] | <LunkRat> | regular |
| [07:57:31] | <joestewart> | a couple of things can help. Add user to aegir and www-data groups. If the directory isn't already, umask 002 |
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| [07:59:05] | <LunkRat> | ok thanks joestewart |
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| [08:03:37] | <omega8cc> | LunkRat: remember that umask 002 will help only for files uploaded via FTP/SSH or created by web server, and will not help with files rsync-ed or extracted from archive - in this case you still need to fix permissions |
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| [08:04:43] | <LunkRat> | I'm mostly using wget to grab tarballs from other servers, then unpacking them into /var/aegir/platforms |
| [08:05:28] | <LunkRat> | i'm on ubuntu via ssh as normal sudoer |
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| [08:12:01] | <omega8cc> | LunkRat: then umask 002 will work |
| [08:12:11] | <omega8cc> | probably |
| [08:12:46] | <omega8cc> | this is why we are running permissions fix script on all servers daily |
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| [08:14:19] | <omega8cc> | no, I was wrong, umask will not help with extracted archives, no matter what |
| [08:14:24] | <omega8cc> | same for git |
| [08:14:34] | <LunkRat> | ah, ok I see. so it's routine to need to reset perms on directories under platforms/ |
| [08:14:52] | <omega8cc> | it will always set/transfer chmod of the original file |
| [08:15:04] | <omega8cc> | yeah |
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| [08:39:13] | <LunkRat> | my aegir.maydomain.com works great. all the other sites result in apache 404 pages at root domain |
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| [08:45:36] | <bgm> | LunkRat: can you check if the vhost is declared correctly? /usr/sbin/apache2ctl -S |
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| [08:55:45] | <omega8cc> | 5 minutes to scrum |
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| [09:53:23] | <anarcat> | i pushed out a fix that keeps aegir from leaking the db credentials to phpinfo() |
| [09:54:28] | <vegardx> | hah, nice catch :p |
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| [09:57:16] | <anarcat> | http://drupal.org/node/730424#comment-4247100 |
| [09:57:18] | <anarcat> | Vertice: http://drupal.org/node/730424#comment-4247100 |
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| [10:07:23] | <welly> | quick aegir question. does it support updating modules? |
| [10:07:54] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: good catch |
| [10:08:25] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: i'll fix this right away... ideally, we'd have access to the cloaked db setting in the template itself... |
| [10:08:31] | <anarcat> | as it is the template is almost unreadable anyways :( |
| [10:08:57] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: I'm not even sure if it would cause any issues, but yeah, better keep it for Apache only, I think |
| [10:10:37] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: fixed |
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| [10:14:27] | <omega8cc> | welly: no, it supports upgrading sites, also in a batch, but you have to create a new platform with upgraded modules first, say, with drush makefile |
| [10:15:03] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: thanks! trying to check it, but d.o is slow right now |
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| [10:19:24] | <omega8cc> | nice simple fix |
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| [10:44:43] | <pkej1> | Has anyone here used "provision_boost" |
| [10:46:48] | <pkej1> | what is platform_id? |
| [10:50:02] | <anarcat> | pkej1: i wrote it :) |
| [10:50:07] | <anarcat> | pkej1: and bgm fixed it |
| [10:50:24] | <anarcat> | pkej1: i am not sure platform_id is still required, but it's usually the nid of the platform |
| [10:50:58] | <pkej1> | anarcat: I guessed as much |
| [10:51:18] | <anarcat> | i guess that platform_nid would be even more obvious :P |
| [10:51:44] | <anarcat> | i don't think you need that parameter |
| [10:51:52] | <anarcat> | see the quickstart in https://drupal.org/project/provision_boost |
| [10:51:52] | <pkej1> | anarcat: I've run "verify" on the site, but still get the error message that the .htaccess hasn't been written. |
| [10:52:04] | <anarcat> | in the drupal status page? ignore that |
| [10:52:13] | <pkej1> | ok |
| [10:52:42] | <anarcat> | basically, you're waiting for this to be fixed: https://drupal.org/node/1027362 |
| [10:52:47] | <pkej1> | anarcat: how can I verify that it works; where would the aegir managed .htaccess go? |
| [10:52:49] | <anarcat> | if this is a big issue for this, you can sponsor a patch for koumbit |
| [10:53:02] | <anarcat> | pkej1: in the apache vhost file, see apache2ctl -S |
| [10:54:38] | <pkej1> | ah, ok found it in /var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/example.com |
| [10:54:42] | <pkej1> | anarcat: tnx |
| [10:55:06] | <pkej1> | I guessed it would probably be there, but got sidetracked by the status report message. |
| [10:55:27] | <anarcat> | yeah, it's a recurring question |
| [10:55:53] | <pkej1> | hrmf: I should have checked the issue queue, I guess :) |
| [10:56:15] | <anarcat> | well, it's not quite clear in the issue queue either, maybe we need to add something to the quickstart? |
| [10:56:18] | <anarcat> | dunno, suggestions welcome |
| [10:56:22] | * anarcat stepping away from the cpu |
