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| [11:52:32] | <hefring> | community => How to peek at Aegir's data => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/504 |
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| [21:42:01] | * adrinux is about to upgrade to rc2 =D |
| [21:43:47] | * mig5 makes an oprah-style whoaaaaa sound |
| [21:44:04] | <mig5> | :) |
| [21:49:39] | <adrinux> | why does the manual on the OA site have to split every fucking paragraph onto a different page. almost. |
| [21:50:05] | <adrinux> | I hate this wiki style. scroll wheels ftw |
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| [21:51:02] | <adrinux> | hmm. no upgrade.txt anymore? |
| [21:53:51] | <adrinux> | refers to upgrade.sh.txt for current supported versions :/ |
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| [21:55:12] | <adrinux> | ah, but that's the one that got overlooked, so versions out of date |
| [21:57:58] | <marcvangend> | Hi all, I'm trying to wrap my head around the basic concepts of aegir - now reading http://greenbeedigital.com.au/content/drupal-deployments-workflows-versi... (it's a classic I guess) |
| [21:57:58] | <marcvangend> | What I don't get is this: it shows an example of mig5_net.build, a drush make file that only contains drupal core and an install profile. Now when I would feed a file like this into Aegir, would that create a new platform? Or would it install the profile on a profile that has already been defined? |
| [21:58:48] | <marcvangend> | (oops, that latest "profile" should have been "platform") |
| [21:59:08] | <adrinux> | marcvangend: a new platform, with the profile inside it |
| [21:59:48] | <adrinux> | as soon as you download drupal core, you have a new platform |
| [22:00:21] | <mig5> | adrinux: there's a discussion on the community site somewhere re: th eover-splitting of the documentation |
| [22:00:25] | <marcvangend> | adrinux: so if I understand correctly, it would be a platform that always contains the code for that specific applications |
| [22:00:30] | <mig5> | it is not working at the moment - discussion is welcome |
| [22:01:13] | <mig5> | marcvangend: yes |
| [22:01:17] | <mig5> | drush make builds platforms |
| [22:01:34] | <mig5> | it doesn't 'install' anything as such, as it's operating at a 'drupal core' context above that of a 'site' |
| [22:01:43] | <mig5> | only site installs activate install profiles |
| [22:02:05] | <mig5> | but sites live on platforms, so there's a hierarchy there |
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| [22:02:35] | <adrinux> | ditch OA and put docs in a static html site, that's maintained in git ;) |
| [22:03:05] | <mig5> | :) |
| [22:03:08] | <mig5> | you traditionalist |
| [22:03:38] | <marcvangend> | mig5: OK, I think I understand. |
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| [22:06:08] | <marcvangend> | mig5: So suppose I run a number of D6 sites for my clients, should every site have its own platform? Or does it make sense to have a more generic platform tu run all sites on? |
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| [22:07:35] | <adrinux> | marcvangend: that's a matter of need and taste |
| [22:07:36] | <mig5> | you can do either |
| [22:07:38] | <mig5> | snap |
| [22:08:09] | <mig5> | you'd want a 'bulk' build file that fetches 1x core and 2 (or 3, 4, 5) x profiles with their own makefiles |
| [22:08:13] | <mig5> | nothing wrong with that |
| [22:08:55] | <mig5> | i have gravitated to an individual platform per application for some reason. probably related to the fact that i migrate my sites at different stages, so i can't always build a 'bulk' platform, (or rather, it isn't useful to do so unless i'm migrating all sites at once) |
| [22:09:14] | <adrinux> | marcvangend: personally all my sites run off the same platform. :) |
| [22:09:47] | <mig5> | ^^ so you see we are all different :) |
| [22:09:51] | <adrinux> | I even dump all contrib modules and themes in sites/all |
| [22:09:56] | <marcvangend> | interesting, so that's two equally valid approaches |
| [22:10:00] | <mig5> | yes |
| [22:10:10] | <mig5> | adrinux doesn't go for the 'install profile per site' approach |
| [22:10:13] | <mig5> | which is fine |
| [22:10:29] | <adrinux> | marcvangend: keep in mind that you can't migrate sites between profiles though |
| [22:10:52] | <marcvangend> | adrinux: I know |
| [22:11:46] | <marcvangend> | now, if you run all sites on the same bulk platform, do you still use drush_make to bundle site-specific modules, features, themes etc? |
| [22:12:28] | <adrinux> | yes, and as I say I put them all in sites/all, so they're available to all sites |
| [22:13:01] | <adrinux> | I can do this because I'm the only admin for the sites I host, so no one else to get confused and break stuff :) |
| [22:13:55] | <marcvangend> | adrinux: exactly, that's just what I was thinking... as soon as you give out to many permissions to Client A, he would have the ability to switch to Client B's theme... |
| [22:14:53] | <adrinux> | yep. need and taste. it's more work to split things up, but might be necessary for your setup |
| [22:16:42] | <marcvangend> | It's much clearer to me now. Sounds like we need the platform-per-site approach. |
| [22:18:24] | <marcvangend> | Thanks adrinux and mig5 for your help... and for making aegir. |
| [22:18:55] | <adrinux> | oh, I didn't make it. |
| [22:22:11] | <marcvangend> | adrinux: you're providing support, so at least you made it better :-) |
| [22:22:40] | <adrinux> | which versions of drush and drush_make are safe for rc2 ? |
| [22:23:25] | <adrinux> | install and upgrade.sh both say 3.3, but I already installed 4.2 |
| [22:25:28] | <marcvangend> | adrinux: did you see http://drupal.org/node/1047922? |
| [22:28:12] | <adrinux> | hmm, think I updated to drush 4.x to deal with drupal.org git migration tho. something will have to give :( |
| [22:29:14] | <marcvangend> | adrinux: no, the last comments say it's fixed - so drush 4.x should work again |
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| [22:37:07] | <mig5> | https://www.ohloh.net/p/aegirproject 8 users! woohoo |
| [22:47:46] | <adrinux> | now 9 :) |
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| [23:31:58] | <adrinux> | woah, so many branches in provision. which is used to package on d.org? prod-koumbit? |
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| [23:35:36] | <mig5> | you probably want master |
| [23:36:10] | <mig5> | or the 6.x-1.x branch |
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| [23:50:27] | <adrinux> | hmm, theres a 6.x-1.0-rc2 tag…but I guess I have to clone a branch before I can switch to the tag. still not used to all this new git stuff |
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| [23:51:01] | <mig5> | yeah a branch is not the same as a tag.. |
| [23:51:19] | <mig5> | just clone master (i.e don't even have to specify a branch) |
| [23:51:31] | <Aciid> | where should permissions be defined at the end? I have uid's and rid's correctly @ users_roles , but nothing changed |
| [23:51:41] | <mig5> | depends on what you're trying to do adrinux |
| [23:51:55] | <mig5> | re: upgrade, should be able to wget the rc2 tarball |
| [23:52:10] | <adrinux> | mig5 I've been installing from git though |
| [23:52:37] | <adrinux> | so just trying to figure out how that works on drupal.org instead of git.aegirproject.org |
| [23:53:26] | <mig5> | you could just use the install.sh from the master branch |
| [23:53:31] | <mig5> | it should be capable of doing the rest itself |
| [23:53:41] | <adrinux> | ^^ ? |
| [23:53:46] | <Aciid> | I'm trying to root myself through MySQL, what am i doing wrong? |
| [23:53:48] | <mig5> | dunno, it is a bit iffy since being back on drupal.org |
| [23:53:49] | <adrinux> | I'm upgrading... |
| [23:53:52] | <mig5> | oh |
| [23:53:58] | <mig5> | you said 'i've been installing', i was confused |
| [23:54:09] | <adrinux> | ach, sorry |
| [23:54:13] | <mig5> | i don't understand the significance |
| [23:54:21] | <mig5> | the upgrade.sh.txt that is linked to in the docs, works |
| [23:54:42] | <adrinux> | don't use it |
| [23:54:45] | <mig5> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/431 |
| [23:54:45] | <mig5> | ok |
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| [00:03:32] | <adrinux> | git clone --branch master http://git.drupal.org/project/provision.git && cd provision && git checkout 6.x-1.0-rc2 |
| [00:03:35] | <adrinux> | sorted |
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| [00:26:46] | <marcvangend> | hi all. I'm playing with my aegir test server, created a drush.make file and trying to roll my first platform. Unfortunately validation fails. The first error in the list is: |
| [00:26:46] | <marcvangend> | Running: /var/aegir/drush/drush.php @platform_Drupal70 provision-verify --backend |
| [00:26:46] | <marcvangend> | The external command could not be executed due to an application error. |
| [00:26:49] | <marcvangend> | Any ideas? |
| [00:28:39] | <marcvangend> | BTW I did find the tips about increasing memory size, but the memory_limit for cli php is 192M now |
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| [01:21:12] | <anarcat> | mig5: i'm happy to *not* know what an oprah-like "whoaaa" sounds like |
| [01:21:15] | <anarcat> | and i don't want to know :P |
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| [01:44:26] | <adrinux> | hmm. more projects adding a make file. more warnings during plaform builds :/ |
| [01:48:32] | <adrinux> | and thus screwing up buids |
| [01:48:35] | <adrinux> | grrr |
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| [01:50:50] | <adrinux> | how to stop drush_make including a make file it finds? |
| [01:55:11] | <marcvangend> | adrinux: afaik drush is always recursive |
| [01:55:19] | <marcvangend> | i mean drush_make |
| [01:57:43] | <adrinux> | yeah, I remember eugenemeyer posting in another projects queue about this, just can't remember which project |
| [01:57:57] | <adrinux> | bottom line is the make files are breaking my build |
| [01:59:51] | <adrinux> | ahah, it was colorbox http://drupal.org/node/839580#comment-4073332 |
| [02:00:29] | <marcvangend> | talking about recursion... I was reading http://community.aegirproject.org/node/256 which made me wonder: |
| [02:00:29] | <marcvangend> | if an install profile includes a make file, it downloads projects specific to that profile, but only when a site is installed for the first time. |
| [02:00:29] | <marcvangend> | So how do people use that feature? If you want to add a couple of modules after some time, you can't add them to the install profile's make file anymore... |
| [02:01:11] | <adrinux> | 'only when a site is installed for the first time' really? |
| [02:01:21] | <adrinux> | didn't know that |
| [02:01:47] | <adrinux> | marcvangend: for updates you do a new platform build and migrate your site to the new platform |
| [02:02:01] | <marcvangend> | adrinux: maybe I'm wrong, but isn't that the essence of an install profile, that it only runs when the site is installed? |
| [02:02:09] | <adrinux> | marcvangend: so you never add modules or update modules in an existing platform |
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| [02:02:54] | <adrinux> | i haven't done much with install profiles |
| [02:03:43] | <marcvangend> | adrinux: yes, you migrate to a platform, so you change the platform's make file (like <namespace>_<platform1>.make on that doc page), but not the <namespace>_<profile1>.make file... |
| [02:03:47] | <adrinux> | marcvangend: a makefile inside an install profile will be run and download modules etc when the platform is built |
| [02:04:32] | * adrinux has a read |
| [02:04:34] | <marcvangend> | adrinux: really? I thought a makefile inside an install profile will be run and download modules etc when the *site* is built on a platform |
| [02:04:45] | <adrinux> | no |
| [02:05:13] | <adrinux> | well, maybe there is stuff you can do in a drupal install profile to download modules etc, but that's independent of the drush make file |
| [02:05:20] | <adrinux> | if so |
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| [02:08:01] | <adrinux> | marcvangend: I don't follow that article at all :( |
| [02:08:32] | <marcvangend> | adrinux: yeah I had to read it 3 times as well before it started to land :-| |
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| [02:11:47] | <marcvangend> | adrinux: wait, this is your diagram, right? http://s3.amazonaws.com/ember/fwyl37Fjb60ht0jIUyn0c0e9vq2wJYMH_m.png |
| [02:12:11] | <adrinux> | a rather old one, yes |
| [02:12:35] | <adrinux> | and based on what mig5 said, rather than what I was doing |
| [02:12:56] | <adrinux> | made that when I was trying to wrap my head around mig5's workflow |
| [02:13:10] | <marcvangend> | adrinux: looking at it, I realize that I shouldn't think of install profiles as part of the site, but as part of the platform, which means that the drush_make file in the profile will be invoked again when rebuilding the platform... |
| [02:13:23] | <adrinux> | exactly |
| [02:13:53] | * marcvangend can't believe that he actually typed that last sentence himself :-) |
| [02:15:18] | <marcvangend> | little by little, things are starting to make sense. thanks adrinux! I think this is a great moment for a walk to the supermarket. see you later. |
| [02:15:30] | <adrinux> | bye :) |
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| [02:42:33] | <adrinux> | I think this diagram is drawn upside down with the arrows pointing the wrong way :/ http://community.aegirproject.org/node/256 |
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| [02:45:49] | <ubuntu> | argh |
| [02:45:55] | <ubuntu> | install profiles and new pdo :/ |
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| [02:58:50] | <adrinux> | having fun? |
| [02:59:44] | <cmcintosh> | a bit |
| [02:59:58] | <cmcintosh> | trying to create a user at install time and having a bit of a pain with it |
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| [03:01:06] | <cmcintosh> | adrinux, any ideas? |
| [03:01:26] | <cmcintosh> | ideally what i would like to do is change the user 1 into user 2, and lock user 1 down |
| [03:01:40] | <adrinux> | me? no. I don't use install profiles |
| [03:02:02] | * adrinux is not the adrian that built aegir |
| [03:02:24] | <cmcintosh> | no i understand was just asking |
| [03:02:27] | <cmcintosh> | never hurts |
| [03:13:09] | <adrinux> | so, two new issues http://drupal.org/node/1011178#comment-4250124 and http://drupal.org/node/1102962 |
| [03:13:31] | <adrinux> | which I now have to work around just to have drush_make build me an updated platform. grrr. |
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| [03:46:01] | <markwk> | I got a new installation of aegir up and I was using a make file to build my first platform, but it seems stuck with Running: /var/aegir/drush/drush.php @platform_NAME provision-verify --backend 2>&1 |
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| [03:49:06] | <markwk> | Maybe I need to kill this. But I'm not quite sure how. |
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| [03:50:14] | <cmcintosh> | hmm |
| [03:50:23] | <cmcintosh> | i would check permissions and the make file |
| [03:50:35] | <cmcintosh> | if there is an error in the make file it could cause it to hang |
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| [03:57:44] | <AntiNSA> | getting ready to install new head version |
| [03:58:06] | <AntiNSA> | are their any commits getting ready to be commited within the next hour I should wait for? |
| [03:58:28] | <AntiNSA> | Barracuda has been workignn well against all my students pundings lately.... |
| [03:59:35] | <cmcintosh> | dont know |
| [04:00:15] | <cmcintosh> | been busy sweating away at building my install profile |
| [04:00:20] | <cmcintosh> | :) getting so close to done |
| [04:00:32] | <AntiNSA> | yeah I feel you |
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| [04:07:14] | <cmcintosh> | anyone know if there is a post_install task hook |
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| [04:10:32] | <markwk> | Can I just delete the platform node and that's enough? |
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| [04:10:54] | <markwk> | It seems like it won't actually stop the provision proess |
| [04:11:02] | <joestewart> | cmcintosh: post_install is how anarcat told me I should proceed for the same type task. |
| [04:11:08] | <cmcintosh> | yea |
| [04:11:14] | <cmcintosh> | thats what i was reading up on |
| [04:11:37] | <cmcintosh> | i am doing some drush scripting now(pre) to pass in various options from my front end into aegir profiles |
| [04:14:22] | <cmcintosh> | joestewart you dont by chance know what sort of things we hace acccess to in the post install hook do you |
| [04:14:38] | <cmcintosh> | specifically working on d7 profile trying to change the initial theme, and user 2 |
| [04:14:59] | <joestewart> | no I haven't tackled it yet |
| [04:16:13] | <cmcintosh> | well ill do a quick try and get back with you |
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| [04:20:02] | <cmcintosh> | i will first try it with d7 api functions |
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| [04:25:14] | <joestewart> | cmcintosh: in D6 profiler module creates users OK. But aegir creates uid 1 with the name admin anyway. You'd still need your post_install to do what you plan with uid1. |
| [04:25:35] | <cmcintosh> | yea |
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| [05:49:32] | <ghankstef> | quick question on install.sh - I don't have the root mysql account password but have anotehr account with full privileges - any way to swap this ? |
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| [06:14:38] | <AntiNSA> | why does the welcome email still recommend boost when speedbooster is enabled? |
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| [06:38:42] | <bgm> | AntiNSA: is that barracuda or standard aegir? |
| [06:40:25] | <AntiNSA> | barracuda |
| [06:40:50] | <AntiNSA> | arrgh... just lost 10 hours of data. my students are going to kill me. |
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| [08:21:25] | <macrocosm> | Anyone heard anything about the pressflow7 release? I see in git its had a lot of activity up until early this month, but there is no public issue cue, or info of any kind lol |
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| [08:42:48] | * ghankstef wonders if this is an Aegir esater egg http://atl.bkstg.artistarena.com/ |
| [08:43:44] | <anarcat> | there are no easter eggs that i am aware of in aegir, and this would certainly not be one of them :P |
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| [08:44:44] | <ghankstef> | been a lond day :) |
| [08:44:47] | <ghankstef> | long |
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| [09:38:33] | <mxrhd> | how do i keep Pressflow from cacheing my Views? |
| [09:39:48] | <mxrhd> | *varnish |
| [09:40:13] | <anarcat> | that is hardly related with aegir |
| [09:40:23] | <mxrhd> | that is very true |
| [09:40:26] | <mxrhd> | :D |
| [09:40:36] | * mxrhd heads over to drupal-support |
| [09:40:36] | <anarcat> | varnish caches things because you tell it to, it's probably views or pressflow you need to fix |
| [09:40:49] | <mxrhd> | aight |
| [09:40:54] | <mxrhd> | thank you |
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