| [11:00:05] | <anarcat> | you can also clone to test, while the site remains live |
| [11:00:10] | <anarcat> | then migrate when you're confident enough |
| [11:00:13] | <sdboyer> | naturally |
| [11:00:17] | <sdboyer> | yeah, all good practices |
| [11:00:18] | <mig5> | and we exercise the drush hook_rollback in provision to try and step back out if we can |
| [11:00:22] | <mig5> | in a lot of cases anyway |
| [11:00:26] | <anarcat> | hehe |
| [11:00:32] | <mig5> | when it works, uh :) |
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| [11:00:45] | <sdboyer> | yeah, well, in this system you can pretty much just *make* it work. hopefully :) |
| [11:00:54] | <sdboyer> | but you have a real versioning system to rely on, that's teh point |
| [11:00:57] | <anarcat> | we have performance issues with the current approach because we backup the whole site (tgz of site/default + database.sql!) and restore it on the site |
| [11:01:00] | <anarcat> | highly inefficient |
| [11:01:05] | <anarcat> | looking to make that pluggable in 2.x |
| [11:01:06] | <sdboyer> | just think how much cooler your rollback & error testing can be get if you can git bisect into there |
| [11:01:17] | <sdboyer> | yeah that would be a good example of sthing that could be improved |
| [11:01:38] | <sdboyer> | the hot switchover makes sense, not in any way incompatible with what i've got in mind |
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| [11:02:19] | <mig5> | so we have a decent, albeit unfinished architecture guide here http://community.aegirproject.org/understanding |
| [11:02:20] | <anarcat> | that's cool |
| [11:02:22] | <mig5> | justfor your bookmarks sdboyer |
| [11:02:31] | <mig5> | might help explain some of the design |
| [11:02:39] | <sdboyer> | the basic thing we're going for here is building a unified system for constructing & deploying (code) of drupal sites that is git-driven and can work for anything from a super-simple hobby site all the way up to a multi-cluster environment. that multi-cluster env may be managed by aegir, maybe by a different config mgmt tool, whatever |
| [11:02:40] | <anarcat> | and email posts and blog posts here in there that google finds sometime :P |
| [11:02:45] | <sdboyer> | mig5: thanks |
| [11:02:49] | <sdboyer> | :) |
| [11:03:17] | <sdboyer> | so it's relieving to hear that the basic approach you take is one that very much in line with the stuff i've already been poking through, as you're fundamentally tackling the same problem |
| [11:03:31] | <anarcat> | we are |
| [11:03:34] | <mig5> | yes, we're all about builds/deployments |
| [11:03:38] | <sdboyer> | indeedly |
| [11:03:45] | <anarcat> | we're a frontend for drush |
| [11:03:53] | <anarcat> | it's just that drush had missing parts we had to do from scratch :P |
| [11:03:56] | <sdboyer> | frontend for drush++ |
| [11:03:57] | <sdboyer> | hehehe |
| [11:03:59] | <anarcat> | like updatedb and site-install :P |
| [11:04:00] | <mig5> | don't tell vertice! |
| [11:04:06] | <mig5> | that was his greatest fear |
| [11:04:25] | <sdboyer> | really the target we're focused on in this round of discussion is improving & making the creation of a single, given drupal codebase (platform) as standard, fast, reliable, error-safe, debuggable, etc. as possible |
| [11:04:38] | <anarcat> | sounds reasonable |
| [11:04:47] | <anarcat> | although i thought that problem was mostly fixed in drush make |
| [11:04:52] | <anarcat> | except maybe for the "fast" part :P |
| [11:04:54] | <sdboyer> | everything else that wraps that system can & should be separate |
| [11:04:55] | <sdboyer> | yeah :) |
| [11:04:58] | <sdboyer> | which is actually a big issue |
| [11:05:00] | <sdboyer> | if you want CI, for example |
| [11:05:03] | <anarcat> | it is |
| [11:05:05] | <anarcat> | (CI?) |
| [11:05:10] | <sdboyer> | continuous integration |
| [11:05:29] | <sdboyer> | running a test suite on every commit in your prod tree ain't so hot if it takes drush make 20 minutes to build your site |
| [11:05:37] | <anarcat> | oic |
| [11:05:42] | <sdboyer> | if you can build it in 30 seconds, though |
| [11:05:44] | <sdboyer> | that's much more manageable |
| [11:05:47] | <anarcat> | but then if it clones from the previous one ... :) |
| [11:05:53] | <sdboyer> | yep, more or less |
| [11:05:54] | <anarcat> | clone --shared or whatever :) |
| [11:05:58] | <sdboyer> | that's one of the crafty things we're...exactly |
| [11:06:00] | <mig5> | that sounds like my build script :) |
| [11:06:07] | <anarcat> | mig5: :) |
| [11:06:09] | <sdboyer> | those cache repos just *keep on* finding more excellent uses |
| [11:06:11] | <sdboyer> | mig5: link? |
| [11:06:14] | <anarcat> | mig5: btw, i almost got those debian packages ready |
| [11:06:30] | <mig5> | sdboyer: i'll dig it up, it's hidden in github somewhere |
| [11:06:34] | <mig5> | anarcat: nice! |
| [11:06:37] | <sdboyer> | mig5: awesome |
| [11:06:54] | <anarcat> | mig5: actually, provision is done, and hostmaster is... well, done |
| [11:06:57] | <anarcat> | but it's ugly |
| [11:07:08] | <mig5> | we make ugly hot |
| [11:07:09] | <anarcat> | i don't actually package the files, i just deploy them with (well) drush make |
| [11:07:13] | <anarcat> | hahaha |
| [11:07:13] | <sdboyer> | mig5: LOL |
| [11:07:14] | <mig5> | it's why we're awesome |
| [11:07:16] | <anarcat> | quote of the day man |
| [11:07:18] | <anarcat> | haha |
| [11:07:20] | <sdboyer> | mig5: twitter. now. |
| [11:07:23] | <mig5> | haha |
| [11:07:24] | <anarcat> | fkn awesome |
| [11:07:37] | <anarcat> | so yeah |
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| [11:07:50] | <sdboyer> | mig5: blah, what's your twitter? |
| [11:07:54] | <anarcat> | i'm looking at making a drush make debian package now to shorten that install process |
| [11:08:06] | <sdboyer> | oh that's cool |
| [11:08:15] | <mig5> | sdboyer: @m5ig |
| [11:08:20] | <anarcat> | i had a bunch of discussions with other debian devs about packaging the frontend, and it's basically impossible |
| [11:08:27] | <anarcat> | ... to do it right, that is |
| [11:08:34] | <sdboyer> | :( |
| [11:08:49] | <anarcat> | there's a drupal6 debian package, and i talked to the maintainer, and the way upgrades are done is that they just replace the files in place and "let the admin do the update.php thing" |
| [11:08:54] | <anarcat> | no comments |
| [11:08:59] | <anarcat> | thing is |
| [11:09:00] | * sdboyer has been thinking about writing a puppet resource for drush make, jenkins plugins for drush (make), etc... |
| [11:09:06] | <sdboyer> | yay learning ruby & java! |
| [11:09:11] | <anarcat> | meh |
| [11:09:16] | <mig5> | bah my script repo is stuffed, but the build script was https://gist.github.com/886139 |
| [11:09:18] | <anarcat> | i'll just have debian packages for you :) |
| [11:09:24] | <anarcat> | drush is already there, drush make should be easy |
| [11:09:42] | <mig5> | the only thing it didn't do yet was a test provision-install of a site, but that's covered in that mailing list link earlier too |
| [11:10:03] | <mig5> | anarcat: you know what is a pain? trying to install a package from backports, in puppet |
| [11:10:07] | <mig5> | sorry, offtopic |
| [11:10:15] | <anarcat> | really? |
| [11:10:18] | <mig5> | you can't basically ' -t foo-backports' |
| [11:10:22] | <mig5> | you have to specify the exact package version |
| [11:10:25] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [11:10:30] | <mig5> | like 2.3.-bpo-123.1231somethingsomething |
| [11:10:38] | <mig5> | so annoying |
| [11:10:39] | <anarcat> | i don't mind |
| [11:10:50] | <anarcat> | in fact i know people that pin *all* package versions |
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| [11:10:54] | <anarcat> | and do security upgrades that way |
| [11:10:59] | * anarcat *wince* |
| [11:11:00] | <mig5> | what a lot of work :) |
| [11:11:09] | <anarcat> | shit yeah |
| [11:12:29] | * sdboyer checks out the gist |
| [11:12:55] | <anarcat> | anyways, so the git packages are up for testing now - although i need to upload them somewhere, building them is as simple as |
| [11:12:59] | <anarcat> | git clone provision |
| [11:13:03] | <anarcat> | git-buildpackage |
| [11:16:41] | <anarcat> | i'm out for the night |
| [11:16:50] | <anarcat> | sdboyer: i would be happy to continue this conversation |
| [11:17:12] | <anarcat> | sdboyer: we'll be heading for aegir 2.0 this summer and this integration will make for a nice change |
| [11:17:16] | <sdboyer> | anarcat: as would i, i'm sure there's no way we could avoid it from continuing :) |
| [11:17:22] | <sdboyer> | anarcat: here's hopin! |
| [11:17:22] | <anarcat> | good |
| [11:18:35] | <anarcat> | ciao! |
| [11:19:43] | <sdboyer> | ta |
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| [11:36:57] | <gchaix> | has anyone been getting segfaults in the web ui on aegir? drush stuff runs fine, but I'm getting apache segfaults when I try to view nodes within aegir |
| [11:40:40] | <gchaix> | the weird thing is I can view site and platform nodes, but not server or task nodes |
| [11:41:40] | <gchaix> | so it seems to be content type-specific |
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| [14:38:26] | <hefring> | community => Failed to clone site => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/506 |
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| [22:08:08] | <dob_> | what is aegir doing during the migration? |
| [22:08:15] | <dob_> | only update.php? |
| [22:08:28] | <dob_> | or replace things in database etc? |
| [22:08:34] | <dob_> | lake hard coded paths.... |
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| [22:56:17] | <dob_> | somebody here? |
| [22:56:46] | <dob_> | i copied my platform with a site to aegir and created a platform, but aegir does not find |
| [22:56:51] | <dob_> | the site in the platform |
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| [23:26:27] | <cmcintosh> | you copy it from a previous aegir install? |
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| [00:54:53] | <ergonlogic> | j0nathan: ping |
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| [01:01:24] | <j0nathan> | ergonlogic: yes ? |
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| [01:21:01] | <markwk> | omega8cc: pear packages aren't pecl so can't include as extensions in php.ini... still drawing a blank on how to include pear package with php-fpm |
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| [01:26:58] | <LloydPearsonIV> | is anyone else having an issue with cloning sites? |
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| [01:37:14] | <shrop> | LloydPearsonIV: Just cloned a site on aegir 1.0rc2 two days ago.. seemed ok. |
| [01:37:30] | <shrop> | Did you get errors or anything? |
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| [01:38:04] | <LloydPearsonIV> | shrop: http://pastebin.com/92eetXAA |
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| [01:40:42] | <cmcintosh> | woot woot anacrat in da house |
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| [01:43:03] | <anarcat> | woot woot |
| [01:43:12] | <shrop> | LloydPearsonIV: Not much in errors to clue you in at all |
| [01:43:28] | <shrop> | Maybe check other log files on the server..apache/php |
| [01:43:45] | <anarcat> | hello chris |
| [01:43:46] | <shrop> | Now you are cloning D7. I recently cloned D6. One diff I noticed |
| [01:43:49] | <anarcat> | and shrop :) |
| [01:43:53] | <shrop> | yo yo |
| [01:43:57] | <anarcat> | what's up |
| [01:44:10] | <shrop> | just a workin' :) |
| [01:44:47] | <shrop> | anarcat: Check this out from LloydPearsonIV |
| [01:44:48] | <shrop> | http://pastebin.com/92eetXAA |
| [01:45:08] | <shrop> | clone failed.. I looked through, but not sure this is a good indicator of what happened.. |
| [01:45:18] | <LloydPearsonIV> | i have been cloning D7 with no problems for a while |
| [01:45:27] | <shrop> | gotcha |
| [01:45:27] | <LloydPearsonIV> | I am not sure whatthe problem is |
| [01:46:22] | <shrop> | there are some interesting errors lines 102-107.. not sure if that is related though |
| [01:46:36] | <LloydPearsonIV> | it looks to be a conflict with display suite, but the only isse with that theory is that i have display suite installed on my other sites & they clone with no problem |
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| [01:46:59] | <anarcat> | !pi emails |
| [01:47:04] | <anarcat> | oups wrong win |
| [01:47:23] | <shrop> | haha |
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| [01:53:02] | <anarcat> | LloydPearsonIV: that's weird |
| [01:53:09] | <anarcat> | what version is this? |
| [01:53:18] | <anarcat> | i would try to just run the deploy command |
| [01:54:49] | <LloydPearsonIV> | its the latest release candidate |
| [01:55:16] | <LloydPearsonIV> | anarcat: how do u run the deploy command? |
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| [01:56:57] | <anarcat> | Running: /var/aegir/drush/drush.php --old_uri='hotelito1.pearsoncommunications.com' @hotelito2.pearsoncommunications.com provision-deploy '/var/aegir/backups/hotelito1.pearsoncommunications.com-20110325.032203.tar.gz' --backend |
| [01:57:08] | <anarcat> | you may need to create that context with provision-save first |
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| [02:03:37] | <LloydPearsonIV> | anarcat, looks like the display suite extras module was causing the issue. I disabled it & it works now. |
| [02:03:48] | <anarcat> | good |
| [02:04:07] | <anarcat> | often there are problems with contrib modules that keep drupal from bootstrapping and make updatedb fail like that |
| [02:06:03] | <LloydPearsonIV> | the import didnt work, I am trying it again just to make sure |
| [02:07:59] | <shrop> | I grabbed that deploy cli command you posted anarcat. Need to learn that.. |
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| [02:12:56] | <dob_> | i am waiting for about 2 hours for a migration of my system..... Why does it take so much time? Okay db is about 100MB and 500MB files. 25000 nodes. |
| [02:13:12] | <dob_> | what is taking so much time? |
| [02:13:26] | <anarcat> | which version? |
| [02:14:31] | <anarcat> | dob_: which version of aegir? |
| [02:14:53] | <anarcat> | dob_: older versions used to rebuild the whole node_access table on migrate and verify, which is very slow - we fixed this in rc2 |
| [02:14:54] | <dob_> | beta1 |
| [02:15:01] | <anarcat> | there ya go |
| [02:15:03] | <anarcat> | you want to upgrade |
| [02:15:11] | <dob_> | f*** |
| [02:15:12] | <dob_> | lol |
| [02:15:13] | <anarcat> | at least the backend |
| [02:15:18] | <dob_> | thank u |
| [02:15:22] | <anarcat> | you could probably just upgrade provision |
| [02:15:30] | <dob_> | then i will wait..... |
| [02:15:37] | <dob_> | it's already migrating the data..... |
| [02:16:12] | <anarcat> | right - just wait and wish :) |
| [02:16:27] | <dob_> | okay thank u! |
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| [02:31:14] | <dob_> | any idea where i can see how much more time it will need to end the rebuild of content access while migrating? |
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| [02:54:23] | <hefring> | community => I'm about to sign up for a VPS server... => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/508 |
| [02:54:23] | <hefring> | community => I'm about to sign up for a VPS server... => http://community.aegirproject.org/node/509 |
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| [03:52:29] | <omega8cc> | We need a page in the docs to list contrib modules causing issues in Aegir, the display suite is one of them |
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| [04:02:01] | <shrop> | omega8cc: That would be a good resource. Also for module maintainers of those modules. |
| [04:04:32] | <dob_> | My aegir system is rebuilding all access tables while migrating, can i see the remaining time of that process or how many percent are done? Already waiting for 4 hours.... |
| [04:04:46] | <omega8cc> | shrop: yes, maybe LloydPearsonIV could start this page with the DS issue? |
| [04:05:03] | <shrop> | true! :) |
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| [04:06:07] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell LloydPearsonIV: could your create a page in the handbook to list modules causing issues with Aegir, starting it with your DS issue? Thanks! |
| [04:06:07] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when LloydPearsonIV is around. |
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| [04:07:03] | <omega8cc> | hefring: botsnack |
| [04:07:03] | <hefring> | thanks omega8cc :) |
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| [04:16:04] | <omega8cc> | dob_: maybe upgrade to master to have this fix included: http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commit/99788ab |
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| [04:26:40] | <omega8cc> | sdboyer: any idea when drupal git will be open for meta projects, like my Aegir system installer? my request is waiting since February 25 |
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| [04:27:06] | <sdboyer> | omega8cc: link to the request? |
| [04:27:22] | <omega8cc> | http://drupal.org/node/1072566 and http://drupal.org/node/1054254 |
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| [04:30:42] | <sdboyer> | omega8cc: ahhh i see, it's a request to give you vetted status so you can promote the project |
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| [04:31:22] | <sdboyer> | omega8cc: you might ping zzolo |
| [04:31:33] | <omega8cc> | sdboyer: yeah, I didn't have cvs access before |
| [04:32:06] | <omega8cc> | sdboyer: OK, thanks |
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| [04:57:44] | <ember_> | Hi. I have aegir installed and am trying to verify my first platform. I'm getting this error in aegir: The directory /var/aegir/platforms/alias-platform does not contain a valid Drupal installation. |
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| [04:59:45] | <ember_> | Per this page, http://community.aegirproject.org/node/44, I tried running drush @example.org provision-verify --debug. However, that kept felling with this error: The drush command '@example.org provision-verify' could not be found. |
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| [05:01:19] | <ember_> | Drush seems to be able to see provision. drush help provision-verify gives me the information on the command. I haven't been able to find anything to help me beyond this. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks! |
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| [05:14:14] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell skwashd: ping me when you are online |
| [05:14:14] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when skwashd is around. |
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| [06:45:25] | <FatGuyLaughing> | Does anyone know the proper syntax to apply a patch to a module in the make file? |
| [06:45:31] | <FatGuyLaughing> | Can't seem to find it. |
| [06:45:53] | <FatGuyLaughing> | sorry wrong chanel |
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| [06:58:43] | <anarcat> | hefring: tell cmcintosh his blog his down http://chrismcintoshdesigns.com/ |
| [06:58:43] | <hefring> | anarcat: I'll pass that on when cmcintosh is around. |
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| [07:23:57] | <LunkRat> | drupal-5.23 vanilla platform will not verify (I think because my server has PHP5.3) |
| [07:24:20] | <LunkRat> | any tricks? or just downgrade server to PHP5.2? |
| [07:32:43] | <SqyD> | 5.2 is the way |
| [07:34:02] | <anarcat> | 5.3 should work, but 5.2 is safer |
| [07:38:07] | <LunkRat> | here is the result of my verification of vanilla drupal-5.23 http://pastebin.com/pPKxWzsn |
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| [08:02:33] | <skwashd> | omega8cc, pong |
| [08:02:33] | <hefring> | skwashd: 2 hours 48 min ago <omega8cc> tell skwashd: ping me when you are online |
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| [08:05:35] | <realityloop> | do you need server access to add features to a features server, or are they added via node edit form? |
| [08:05:35] | <hefring> | realityloop: 1 week 8 hours ago <omega8cc> tell realityloop: pong from CET :) |
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| [08:10:54] | <skwashd> | realityloop, node edit form if you're pulling from a VCS repo |
| [08:11:05] | <realityloop> | skwashd: cool thanks |
| [08:11:07] | <skwashd> | realityloop, what address did you use for your drupal tower booking? |
| [08:12:08] | <skwashd> | realityloop, trying to sort out my SPG membership with customer service |
| [08:14:00] | <SqyD> | I've allready booked for London ;-) |
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| [08:24:14] | <anarcat> | bleh |
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| [08:44:33] | <omega8cc> | skwashd: pm? |
| [08:48:28] | <skwashd> | omega8cc, sure |
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| [08:55:13] | <realityloop> | mig5: ping |
| [08:55:30] | <realityloop> | can anyone pint me to drush patch for git on d.o? |
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| [08:59:29] | <skwashd> | realityloop, it isn't git ... it is changes to the xml format |
| [09:02:25] | <skwashd> | anarcat, ping |
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| [09:11:45] | <anarcat> | skwashd: pong |
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| [09:14:28] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: sorry about #1098304 I was sure it is not *that* critical, as you posted some existing security issues summary before, but I was wrong probably |
| [09:16:09] | <skwashd> | anarcat, see pm |
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| [09:20:12] | <skwashd> | omega8cc, my general rule for security stuff is to be overly cautious when reporting stuff publicly |
| [09:20:49] | <omega8cc> | yeah, too late |
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| [10:54:45] | <bertodsera_> | how can I tell aegir to connect to mysql using sockets instead of tcp? |
| [10:56:33] | <bertodsera_> | for security and performance reasons we'd rather get rid of tcp |
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