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| [11:03:08] | <grape> | mig5, i absolutely agree, and what you described is an elegant solution, but today I was just hacking/learning/testing and it would have been an easy way to play with makefiles. |
| [11:04:13] | <grape> | should I be spending more time learning git? maybe that is the better question ;-) |
| [11:05:53] | <grape> | at the end of the day I don't think I would make that a feature request. it would be cute, but cute doesn't pay the bills. |
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| [12:19:09] | <anarcat> | wow, that was crazy |
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| [12:39:28] | <cmcintosh> | anarcat, ? |
| [12:39:32] | <cmcintosh> | whats that |
| [12:40:09] | <anarcat> | see twitter |
| [12:41:04] | <cmcintosh> | where on twitter? i must be missing smoething |
| [12:41:10] | <cmcintosh> | you talking about the new ui? |
| [12:41:14] | <anarcat> | no. |
| [12:41:18] | <anarcat> | twitter.com/theanarcat |
| [12:41:30] | <anarcat> | gotta go |
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| [12:42:05] | <cmcintosh> | good luck |
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| [13:22:29] | <cmcintosh> | ergonlogic, hey how things been going |
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| [17:22:54] | <mig5> | who's on aegir 1.0-rc2 here? |
| [17:23:18] | <mig5> | is your hostmaster dir /var/aegir/hostmaster-6.x-1.0-rc2 ? |
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| [17:40:03] | <HaloFX> | mig5: Yes |
| [17:40:26] | <mig5> | thanks |
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| [18:11:26] | <hefring> | Provision => update the OLD_DRUPAL_DIR variable to be what the last release will be (6.x-1.0-rc2) => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/ea7b38f9ad783075c... |
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| [19:24:56] | <cmcintosh> | oi |
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| [19:37:05] | <StepanKuzmin> | Hi, all! |
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| [20:33:17] | <StepanKuzmin> | Hello, everyone! |
| [20:33:43] | <snlnz> | ping omega8cc |
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| [20:52:21] | <darthsteven> | Hello! |
| [20:52:21] | <hefring> | hello |
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| [20:58:33] | <mig5> | hello! |
| [20:58:33] | <hefring> | salut |
| [20:59:07] | <mig5> | so, i've now automated a jenkins test to create a vps, install aegir, *upgrade* aegir, and then install some platforms and sites |
| [20:59:12] | <mig5> | that's the ultimate pre-release test i think |
| [20:59:26] | <mig5> | let's see how it goes http://jenkins.greenbeedigital.com.au:8080/job/aegir%20upgrade/13/console |
| [20:59:29] | <mig5> | in real time |
| [21:00:06] | <darthsteven> | mig5: That's very cool |
| [21:01:42] | <snlnz> | mig5 is that the standard apache build? I've just been reading about graces barracudda build which looks interesting? anyone done any benchmarking on the various builds? |
| [21:02:19] | <mig5> | that's the standard aegir build with apache yeah |
| [21:02:22] | <mig5> | i've never done aegir on nginx |
| [21:02:28] | <mig5> | never tried the barracuda stuff. |
| [21:03:21] | <snlnz> | ah ok |
| [21:03:46] | <snlnz> | it looks good for low mem servers? but I'm just reading no hands on yet? I guess best way is to get amongst it and build one |
| [21:03:50] | <mig5> | damn |
| [21:04:08] | <mig5> | typo |
| [21:06:12] | <markwk> | the barracuda stuff works nicely |
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| [21:07:39] | <snlnz> | markwk so I hear, time to spin up a new box and try! :) |
| [21:09:27] | <snlnz> | what's the difference in the octopus build? It looks like just a bunch of platforms/modules etc bundled into barracuda? |
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| [21:10:00] | <mig5> | magic |
| [21:16:14] | <darthsteven> | I see you are using the green orbs plugin there |
| [21:16:22] | <darthsteven> | much better than blue |
| [21:18:31] | <markwk> | sninz: it basically separates the aegir master from site specific aegir |
| [21:18:49] | <markwk> | it makes it easy to create various hosts on different boxes |
| [21:24:05] | <snlnz> | markwk similar to clustering at all? |
| [21:24:40] | <snlnz> | or aiding in that area? |
| [21:27:21] | <markwk> | not entirely sure... but possible to have a distributed network of aegir hosts, this is the octopus metaphor i guess |
| [21:31:06] | <snlnz> | interesting... |
| [21:31:12] | <darthsteven> | mig5: You know the bit on the platform node form where you can specify a drush make file, would you guys accept a patch that made that textbox into a more of a mini form? |
| [21:31:34] | <darthsteven> | mig5: To add file uploading, or a select box of makes from a particular directory on the server? |
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| [21:43:04] | <mig5> | darthsteven: i would, but i wonder if it's possible to have *either* an uplooad or a field |
| [21:43:22] | <mig5> | because personally i prefer specifying a url to a stub file directly from github.com |
| [21:43:31] | <mig5> | (since drush make supports making from a remote makefile) |
| [21:44:19] | <mig5> | an upload option would be good, others mentioned that in the channel today |
| [21:45:15] | <darthsteven> | I was thinking of using some JS to give the user multiple options and just display one form element at a time |
| [21:45:33] | <darthsteven> | trouble with having to specify a URL is that your make files need to be public |
| [21:46:17] | <mig5> | your makefiles really are secret squirrel stuff? :) |
| [21:46:33] | <mig5> | it's only pointers to dependencies, not the dependencies themselves :P |
| [21:46:43] | <mig5> | and they could still be private repos etc |
| [21:46:46] | <mig5> | but yes point taken |
| [21:46:55] | <mig5> | nonetheless i would hate to see the field go |
| [21:47:03] | <mig5> | just because it *could* be a private-preferred makefile |
| [21:47:18] | <mig5> | my stub files are in a public github repo |
| [21:47:30] | <darthsteven> | I don't want to get rid of it, just add to it :) |
| [21:47:41] | <mig5> | sounds good |
| [21:48:05] | <darthsteven> | we don't want to give away the names of our clients I'm afraid |
| [21:48:12] | <darthsteven> | so they can't be public |
| [21:48:14] | <mig5> | fair enough |
| [21:49:13] | <mig5> | you could also put your makefile on a web server area that has htpasswd but has an Allow from <aegir server ip> so that there's no need for user/pass |
| [21:49:16] | <mig5> | but eh :) |
| [21:49:29] | <mig5> | i welcome the upload button definitely |
| [21:49:34] | <darthsteven> | I like my Dropbox solution... |
| [21:51:55] | <darthsteven> | I might have a look at that form after getting a patch for my 'daemon' done |
| [21:52:31] | <mig5> | sounds great - excited to get more of your contributions in :) |
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| [22:41:55] | <simme> | 'elo folks! Long time no see. |
| [22:42:39] | <simme> | I recently migrated a site using drush.. now it's all messed up in the aegir UI. Seems out of sync in some way. Is it possible to sync it up some way? Verify did not do it |
| [22:42:48] | <simme> | The site itself is working fine |
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| [01:09:30] | <mxrhd> | How do i use drush sql-connect with aegir? |
| [01:09:36] | <mxrhd> | do i need to add a @target? |
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| [01:34:32] | <joestewart> | mxrhd: is this regular aegir or Barracuda? as the aegir user, either use an alias or traverse to the sites/exampl.com directory. Anarcat has been working to get rid of the aegir user requirement at http://drupal.org/project/provisionacl |
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| [03:31:32] | <omega8cc> | oops, I missed the scrum because of CET/CEST change, it is now midnight instead of 11pm in Paris |
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| [03:33:30] | <omega8cc> | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=195 |
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| [04:29:45] | <arielqgold> | omega8cc: can you tell me which file to apply patch http://groups.drupal.org/node/65128#comment-194963 on octopus install? |
| [04:35:27] | <arielqgold> | well, got the migrate to finally work after manually granting SUPER privilege |
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| [04:42:15] | <omega8cc> | arielqgold: this patch was for very old Aegir version, so it will not apply now, the files get renamed in the meantime so you would need to grep the source, I think |
| [04:42:55] | <arielqgold> | omega8cc: ok, thanks. |
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| [05:06:58] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: i don't know what to do with that page, i'm tempted to just delete it - http://community.aegirproject.org/node/316 |
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| [05:11:02] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: I don't know why he wouldn't just have put the text in the page... |
| [05:12:07] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [05:12:13] | <anarcat> | and i hate it when people fork documentation |
| [05:12:42] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: is there anything in that doc worth saving? |
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| [05:12:59] | <ergonlogic> | that isn't elsewhere? |
| [05:13:02] | <anarcat> | i don't know, i don't remember being impressed by the PDF, but i can't be bothered even opening it at this point :P |
| [05:13:31] | <AntiNSA> | Hey |
| [05:13:31] | <hefring> | que tal |
| [05:13:44] | <ergonlogic> | it describes manual creation of a new db, etc. |
| [05:14:01] | <anarcat> | it should be factored into the existing docs or we should get rid of it |
| [05:14:06] | <anarcat> | having a pdf doesn't make sense |
| [05:14:19] | <AntiNSA> | any way to instal that newest commit without a complete upgrade / reinstal? |
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| [05:14:45] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: agreed |
| [05:15:11] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: maybe we should have a "migration guide" alongside the install and upgrade ones? |
| [05:15:27] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: well, "importing sites into aegir" is a bit that |
| [05:15:27] | <AntiNSA> | will this https://gist.github.com/890325 work to install the latest commit? |
| [05:15:32] | <anarcat> | but yeah, maybe we can rename it |
| [05:15:59] | <AntiNSA> | BOA: Add /approve/ and /users/ to the list of no-cache exception in the speed booster - also in the Nginx config (Albert) |
| [05:16:15] | <AntiNSA> | Id love that comit |
| [05:16:21] | <AntiNSA> | so clever |
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| [05:18:59] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: i documented how i setup hostmaster.k.n here: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/517 |
| [05:21:26] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: i really enjoy the [toc] in there :) |
| [05:21:41] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: re node 316, I suggest we flush it |
| [05:21:49] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: it's cc-sa |
| [05:21:54] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: maybe create a graveyard in the handbook? |
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| [05:22:09] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: ok |
| [05:22:10] | * anarcat always hesitant in trashing contributions completely |
| [05:22:20] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: agreed |
| [05:23:05] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: i think i fixed hm.k.n - notice how platforms with makefiles got magically recreated when i verified the server :) |
| [05:23:17] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: the issue was that the aliases for the mysql server were missing |
| [05:23:24] | <anarcat> | hence provision-save was segfaulting fun fun |
| [05:23:29] | <omega8cc> | AntiNSA: I already confirmed before that this gist will work for all future updates to global.inc |
| [05:23:32] | <anarcat> | s/hence/therefore/ |
| [05:23:38] | * anarcat inventing inglishe again |
| [05:23:56] | <ergonlogic> | hence == therefore |
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| [05:24:06] | <ergonlogic> | :) |
| [05:24:25] | <anarcat> | well there ya go |
| [05:24:29] | <AntiNSA> | ok thanks! sorry didnt know you guys were havign meeting |
| [05:24:35] | <anarcat> | we're not having a meeting :) |
| [05:25:01] | <AntiNSA> | xscrum right? |
| [05:25:18] | <anarcat> | no |
| [05:25:19] | <AntiNSA> | love to see what is comign next for this great system |
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| [05:25:50] | <omega8cc> | scrum was yesterday, I missed it due to DST change |
| [05:26:14] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: i did talk about your security issue - did you see? |
| [05:26:39] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: yep, my laptop was still logged in ;) thanks! |
| [05:26:47] | <anarcat> | cool |
| [05:26:53] | <anarcat> | i hope to make rc3 today |
| [05:27:02] | <ergonlogic> | the community site now has a "archived documentation" book: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/518 |
| [05:27:29] | <ergonlogic> | consider it a graveyard where book pages go to rest |
| [05:27:53] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: cool, any chance to include my waiting Nginx patches? or should I re-roll them? |
| [05:27:54] | <anarcat> | cool :) |
| [05:28:05] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: we talked about including them |
| [05:28:09] | <anarcat> | i'll try to review all needs review stuff |
| [05:28:17] | <anarcat> | maybe we should just give you commit access to that part |
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| [05:28:54] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: yeah, but now I'm not sure if they are w/o that BOA stuff :/ will check |
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| [05:31:04] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: that could be awesome, as anything Nginx related is always tested here many times before it gets committed, so I shouldn't break anything :p |
| [05:31:26] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [05:31:36] | <AntiNSA> | awesome |
| [05:31:37] | <anarcat> | well, you just need to be careful that you don't touch anything else without testing :) |
| [05:31:43] | <anarcat> | and besides, we break stuff too :) |
| [05:31:46] | <ergonlogic> | I have a feeling there are some undocumented hooks in hosting... |
| [05:31:47] | <anarcat> | so it's part of the game |
| [05:31:54] | <ergonlogic> | like: http://api.aegirproject.org/api/Hostmaster/modules--hosting--site--hosti... |
| [05:31:54] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: you are probably right |
| [05:32:00] | <AntiNSA> | wait untill I finish a 2 hour upgrade and then make all the new commits :) |
| [05:32:10] | <ergonlogic> | which says its a "implementation of the hosting_post_install hook" |
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| [05:33:57] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: great, and I need to re-roll waiting patches anyway, as they have that BOA stuff, doh |
| [05:34:03] | <anarcat> | go |
| [05:34:20] | <ergonlogic> | say, for the sake of argument, I were to name a function hosting_SaaS_post_hosting_install_task, would this be called after hosting install tasks? |
| [05:35:16] | <anarcat> | yes |
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| [05:35:35] | <anarcat> | it's a hosting_hook_post_hosting_install_task |
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| [05:54:04] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: thanks |
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| [07:03:06] | <omega8cc> | Interesting: "Do not begin commit messages with the # symbol." - but we often do that, hmm.. |
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| [07:30:07] | <anarcat> | sfyn_: i am merging stuff now - do we have any outstanding patches from you we should get into rc3? |
| [07:31:11] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: i will again blindly import your commits for nginx, but in the future, please make sure to make smaller commits in which the commitlog correspond to the commit |
| [07:31:20] | <anarcat> | for example this commit doesn't mention the inclusion of .tar: |
| [07:31:22] | <anarcat> | http://drupalcode.org/sandbox/omega8cc/1111100.git/patch/91a3027 |
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| [07:31:34] | <anarcat> | i know i'm nitpicking, but i think it's important to track back issues when they happen |
| [07:31:40] | <anarcat> | and we never know when they will happen :) |
| [07:31:48] | <anarcat> | committing early and often will help you with this |
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| [07:34:28] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: yeah, I need to change some habits probably :) |
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| [08:15:39] | <mig5> | 'lut anarcat |
| [08:16:00] | <mig5> | thanks for attacking the queue |
| [08:16:18] | <mig5> | i am happy to release today if i get time: what do i have to do, release.sh, tag, release nodes? |
| [08:16:30] | <mig5> | i remember we tagged manually last time: does release.sh no longer do that? |
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| [09:10:14] | <sfyn_> | anarcat: just the commit that changes hosting_get_client - last commit on my shell repo |
| [09:10:50] | <mig5> | anarcat: you seemed to commit a bunch of stuff this morning.. but i can't see those commits,except for one |
| [09:10:58] | <mig5> | http://drupal.org/node/196005/commits http://drupal.org/node/195997/commits |
| [09:11:33] | <anarcat> | mig5: we need to manually tag hostmaster |
| [09:11:45] | <anarcat> | mig5: and release.sh points to tarballs on d.o so hostmaster fail. |
| [09:11:55] | <anarcat> | mig5: i forgot to push too |
| [09:11:59] | <mig5> | :D |
| [09:12:41] | <anarcat> | pushed |
| [09:12:43] | <anarcat> | gotta go mtg |
| [09:12:48] | <anarcat> | sorry :) |
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| [09:13:27] | <mig5> | no probs |
| [09:13:29] | <mig5> | thanks |
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| [09:14:57] | <mig5> | whoop: community.aegirproject.org just went down |
| [09:16:00] | <mig5> | back |
| [09:16:10] | <mig5> | oh - not back |
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| [09:29:30] | <mig5> | anyone from koumbit here? / il ya quelqu'un de Koumbit ici? |
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| [09:39:52] | <bgm> | mig5: yes? |
| [09:40:08] | <mig5> | ah it's ok, community.aegirprojectg.org and other sites back up now |
| [09:40:15] | <mig5> | thanks |
| [09:40:39] | <mig5> | they suspiciously went down when anarcat walked into a meeting ;) |
| [09:40:39] | * mig5 taps nose slyly |
| [09:40:41] | <bgm> | hmm, worrying, but ok :) |
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| [09:46:53] | * mig5 laid down tags for rc3 |
| [09:49:02] | <mig5> | weird, koumbit sites seem down again from here, but i can't reproduce from anywhere else |
| [09:49:08] | <mig5> | including from other connections at the same ISP |
| [09:49:11] | <mig5> | so it must just be me :) |
| [09:49:29] | <anarcat> | i'm having a weird thing here too |
| [09:49:34] | <anarcat> | so thanks for the heads up |
| [09:49:39] | <anarcat> | mig5: can you pastebin a traceroute? |
| [09:50:41] | <mig5> | sure |
| [09:51:03] | <mig5> | anarcat: http://pastie.org/private/bte1hddspoyov69sjoemq |
| [09:54:11] | <mig5> | testing a build of aegir 6.x-1.0-rc3 before doing the release nodes |
| [09:56:38] | <mig5> | ah |
| [09:56:43] | <mig5> | well that won't work, since the tarball doesn't exist yet :) |
| [09:56:50] | <mig5> | i love the good old catch 22 |
| [09:59:47] | <anarcat> | it blocks at layer3 for us too, but different ips |
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| [09:59:52] | <anarcat> | i suspect our upstream's bgp is flapping |
| [10:00:08] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [10:00:17] | <mig5> | bouncing around at montreal level3 |
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| [10:00:42] | <mig5> | release notes todo http://piratepad.net/eyvVEvKKcq |
| [10:00:58] | <mig5> | not being able to get to the community site is affecting my ability to copy from the last notes like i usually do :D |
| [10:01:10] | <mig5> | ooh, i could route myself through my work vpn, where it seems to work ok there |
| [10:02:34] | <mig5> | http://drupal.org/node/1111314 |
| [10:02:38] | <mig5> | i'll do another test shortly |
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| [10:04:19] | <anarcat> | "!koumbitstatus routing issue leads to loss of connectivity for *some* people behind #level3 #upstream ETA: 15-60m" |
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| [10:16:18] | <mig5> | awesome |
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| [10:28:00] | <mig5> | alright folks http://community.aegirproject.org/1.0-rc3 |
| [10:28:47] | * mig5 has changed the topic to Aegir hosting system 1.0-rc3 released! http://community.aegirproject.org/1.0-rc3 | Issue queue: http://is.gd/edalY | read this before asking: http://community.aegirproject.org/bugs | scrums on tuesday 2200UTC |
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| [10:34:38] | <anarcat> | mig5: you are magic and awesome |
| [10:34:52] | <anarcat> | mig5: i take it that means we're pingable now? :) |
| [10:34:53] | <mig5> | no YOU are |
| [10:35:04] | <anarcat> | hehe |
| [10:35:05] | <anarcat> | no you are :P |
| [10:35:10] | <mig5> | i routed around the issue :P |
| [10:35:15] | <anarcat> | network seems fine here though |
| [10:35:19] | <anarcat> | can you double check? |
| [10:35:19] | <mig5> | at work i could connect, so i routed your IP through the vpn |
| [10:35:21] | <mig5> | sure |
| [10:35:24] | <anarcat> | hehe cool :) |
| [10:35:28] | <anarcat> | the magics of the internets |
| [10:35:36] | <anarcat> | i am still dreaming of having our own bgp routes |
| [10:35:43] | <anarcat> | which means we would be flapping all on our own :P |
| [10:36:00] | <mig5> | yes seems better now |
| [10:36:12] | <anarcat> | cool |
| [10:36:18] | <mig5> | bgp is fun. i only did it briefly, for about 9 months or so, at the last job |
| [10:36:19] | <mig5> | quagga |
| [10:36:39] | * anarcat considering openbgpd |
| [10:36:42] | <mig5> | most of it over my head, but i did get to play with de-announcing/re-announcing between two upstreams in a hairy moment :) |
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| [10:37:07] | <anarcat> | ok, one last dent and i'm outta here |
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| [10:37:42] | <anarcat> | take care :) |
| [10:37:50] | <mig5> | a+ ! |
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| [10:39:19] | <capitan__> | At http://community.aegirproject.org/node/29 it references "Alternatively, you may want to specify a directory under /var/aegir/config/server_master/ssl.d where your own certificate and key is stored. |
| [10:39:19] | <capitan__> | ", but on the newest RC, I can't seem to see that option |
| [10:40:00] | <mig5> | well, you can just make the directory |
| [10:40:11] | <jlkinsel> | rc3 out? hmmm will have to try |
| [10:40:18] | <mig5> | jlkinsel: just now, yep |
| [10:40:27] | <capitan__> | really? cool :) |
| [10:40:28] | <jlkinsel> | saw on twitter. :) |
| [10:40:42] | <capitan__> | i saw it here :P |
| [10:41:38] | <capitan__> | mig5, i can? thanks. hehe... i'll poke around the filesystem a bit with that and see if i can figure it out myself first :) |
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| [10:42:03] | <mig5> | capitan__: i think so. i haven't really used a lot of ssl :) |
| [10:42:17] | <mig5> | it's certainlny not a finished product, but it works. i have one site using it |
| [10:44:12] | <capitan__> | ya i was pleased to see it too! it's working on two of my sites... but i keep running into this "there are no more ip addresses" stuff, and google didn't help me figure out how it works and how to muck with the mapping |
| [10:44:18] | <capitan__> | (i only have 2 ips) |
| [10:45:23] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [10:45:36] | <mig5> | ssl can't use name-based virtual hosts properly (basically put) |
| [10:45:49] | <mig5> | ssl sites need to be bound to specific IP addresses |
| [10:46:28] | <mig5> | the reason is because the packet is encrypted, the hostname can't be interrogated and matched against a 'ServerName' value in the vhost |
| [10:46:31] | <mig5> | a catch 22 |
| [10:46:35] | * jlkinsel mumbles something about a way, but not easy |
| [10:46:39] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [10:46:40] | <capitan__> | well i was hoping to use a wildcard ssl cert for a couple of the sites... and also for some, i've enabled that one funny extension... |
| [10:46:43] | <mig5> | hence 'basically put' :) |
| [10:46:48] | * capitan__ tries remembering what it was called |
| [10:46:48] | <mig5> | wildcard cert should be ok |
| [10:47:19] | <mig5> | server name indication |
| [10:47:23] | <capitan__> | that's it |
| [10:47:31] | <capitan__> | :) |
| [10:47:36] | <mig5> | that's the only way it's possible to do so, but i think Windows XP clients don't support it |
| [10:47:40] | <mig5> | or something like that. |
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| [10:48:28] | <capitan__> | so i read... it was very strange to me that i was reading it to be an OS release limitation rather than a browser limitation |
| [10:48:50] | <mig5> | i think it's the ssl libraries or something |
| [10:48:56] | <mig5> | dunno |
| [10:49:42] | <capitan__> | anyway... it seems that as of now aegir's ssl management is kinda not supporting SNI huh? |
| [10:51:18] | <mig5> | probably not yet. i thought i remembered omega8cc submitting a patch for it but I forget |
| [10:51:31] | <mig5> | i have to look away from IRC for a while to get some work done - but i'll check later |
| [10:52:03] | <capitan__> | mig5, thanks for the help! :) |
| [10:52:06] | <capitan__> | so long |
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