IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-03-31 (GMT)

2011-03-30
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[11:15:19]<snlnz>mig5 do the barracuda installations upgrade ok with the standard upgrade.sh?
[11:16:04]<mig5>no idea
[11:16:25]<mig5>i know absolutely nothing about barracuda i'm afraid, you should hunt for barracuda-specific docs if they exist
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[11:17:09]<snlnz>all good
[11:18:28]<arielqgold>sninz: https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/blob/master/docs/UPGRADE.txt
[11:18:42]<trainer>anyone have any hints on migrating an old site onto a platform that has an install profile?
[11:19:19]<snlnz>arielqgold: thx :D
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[11:31:53]<grape>thanks for the release guys :-)
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[11:35:43]<trainer>oof, this doesn't look promising: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/461
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[11:52:22]<acbot>congrats on the release
[11:53:14]<acbot>I noticed drush comes from the 7.x branch now.. I assume this is fine to use with drupal 6.x stuff
[11:55:56]<mig5>yes
[11:56:00]<mig5>drush is drupal-core agnostic
[11:56:03]<mig5>just a technicality
[11:57:32]<acbot>ya thought so... cool
[11:57:37]<acbot>upgrading the dev env now
[11:57:50]<acbot>hopefully that clients change doesn't bite us too hard :)
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[11:59:53]<mig5>depends how much you depend on it
[12:00:07]<mig5>we asked for people like you to tell us, a fortnight ago or so :)
[12:00:15]<acbot>ya.. just saw that :p
[12:00:30]<acbot>fwiw the way i keep in touch with aegir is the mailing list these days
[12:00:37]<mig5>nice
[12:00:43]<mig5>i wondered if everyone but me found the list useless
[12:00:46]<acbot>kinda miss all the stuff on community
[12:00:57]<acbot>nah list is epic
[12:01:00]<mig5>i'll get anarcat to cross post to the mailing list for really important questions like that api change in future
[12:01:07]<acbot>that would be awes
[12:02:12]<acbot>so upgrade was smooth
[12:02:14]<acbot>no probs
[12:02:21]<acbot>just going to test out our stuff still works
[12:02:38]<mig5>please do
[12:05:40]<acbot>looks like it did
[12:05:59]<acbot>we used to use clients a lot and dropped it in favour of users.. glad we did that :p
[12:06:02]<mig5>check that your sites are still associated to the client (view the site nodes, should have a 'Client' field at the bottom)
[12:06:07]<mig5>yeah
[12:06:21]<mig5>well the recent changes might make the Clients feature more useful in future
[12:06:30]<mig5>especially for those of us who are nuts and want to hook it into LDAP groups etc :)
[12:06:35]<acbot>:D
[12:07:27]<acbot>"check that your sites are still associated to the client" - yep, all good
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[12:08:26]<acbot>so client name still exists
[12:08:34]<acbot>just different field in db now?
[12:09:57]<mig5>i think so yeah
[12:10:04]<mig5>and organisation field is dropped
[12:10:14]<mig5>and email field too i think
[12:10:36]<mig5>and therefore we now send 'welcome to your new site' emails to the email address of the *user* in aegir and not the client
[12:10:46]<mig5>so it's probably even more suited to your existing setup
[12:10:54]<mig5>unless that last bit is actually undesirable for you
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[12:10:59]<acbot>hmm
[12:11:08]<acbot>yeh so i didnt get my normal 'welcome' emails
[12:11:15]<acbot>pretty minor fix though
[12:13:31]<acbot>is the new db structure for clients documented anywhere?
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[13:22:00]<anarcat>hullo
[13:22:00]<hefring>what's up
[13:22:17]<anarcat>acbot: the db structure for clients didn't change much other than some fields being dropped
[13:22:18]<capitan__>what's the difference between the two ssl.d directories?
[13:22:22]<anarcat>a unique field was added too
[13:24:33]<acbot>anarcat: thanks.. what was dropped and what is the add field? i assume organisation was dropped?
[13:25:45]<anarcat>i really should write this in the release notes
[13:26:10]<anarcat>acbot: the organisation and email fields were dropped from the form, and an "internal name" column was added, autocalculated from the node title
[13:26:27]<anarcat>we move from email being unique to internal name being unique
[13:26:41]<anarcat>the email and organisation fields stay in the DB until 2.x, but they are not created anymore
[13:26:47]<anarcat>this is to ease migrations for people pre 1.0
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[13:27:58]<anarcat>also, the emails get sent to the logged in user now, instead of the client email
[13:28:12]<anarcat>this also resolves client uniqueness issues we were having
[13:45:41]<acbot>cool thanks anarcat
[13:45:58]<acbot>mostly didn't alter how we do things.. small changes required but it seems this was for the best
[13:46:54]<anarcat>i am happy to hear that :)
[13:46:58]<anarcat>it's certainly what i'm hoping for
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[13:56:17]<anarcat>acbot: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/521
[14:01:35]<mig5>thanks anarcat: sorry, i didn't explain it properly in the release notes themselves
[14:05:12]<acbot>thanks anarcat
[14:05:35]<capitan__>how does one wipe out an ssl certificate from the list? is it safe to just a) stop using it, b) remove it from hosting_ssl_cert, c) remove its corresponding directories in config/ssl.d and config/hosting_master/ssl.d, and d) remove the receipt file in config/hosting_master/ssl.d ?
[14:06:45]<anarcat>mig5: don't worry - i should have made this summary long ago anyways
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[14:41:59]<acbot>anarcat, mig5 can I get some clarification about the client email field
[14:42:14]<acbot>so currently in RC3
[14:42:23]<acbot>the email field is required
[14:42:51]<acbot>(i.e if I goto a client and press edit)
[14:42:57]<acbot>is this the node->title?
[14:43:17]<acbot>or is the node title an amalgamation of the name+email
[14:45:13]<acbot>also.. from what I can tell in 2.x email is going for client nodes.. if so, why is it still required when I edit a client?
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[14:57:29]<EclipseGc>yay, upgraded to rc3
[14:57:32]<EclipseGc>:-)
[14:58:47]<mig5>acbot: i think for *existing* clients there was amalgation there. anarcat can confirm
[14:59:00]<EclipseGc>mig5: wassup?
[14:59:03]<mig5>i'm pretty sure the node title corresponds to 'uname' in the db? and ideally it's a 'machine' name
[14:59:10]<mig5>i.e a single username
[14:59:19]<mig5>that could theoretically correspond to a POSIX user or group
[14:59:32]<mig5>EclipseGc: not much, work work work
[14:59:43]<EclipseGc>mig5: I hear that
[14:59:54]<EclipseGc>mig5: yay rc3 is out :-)
[15:01:18]<acbot>mig5: gaa
[15:01:21]<acbot>confusing
[15:03:21]<mig5>i hope anarcat can clarify for you: i'm only learning the changes myself now
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[15:11:45]<anarcat>acbot: the email field is not required anymore
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[15:11:52]<anarcat>acbot: it's still in the db if you upgraded from pre-rc3
[15:11:56]<anarcat>but it's not in the form at all
[15:12:12]<anarcat>the title of the node is the title of the node :)
[15:12:23]<anarcat>it's used to populate the "internal name" in the db, which is unique
[15:12:29]<mig5>ah
[15:12:44]<anarcat>i'm not sure what the confusion is here, is that clearer?
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[15:13:20]<acbot>anarcat: that is clearer
[15:13:36]<acbot>my only confusing was when i went to a client node and pressed edit the email form was required
[15:13:37]<anarcat>http://community.aegirproject.org/roadmap/2.0
[15:13:47]<acbot>and you had just said it wasn't so i was like wtf :p
[15:13:52]<anarcat>acbot: that's a bug - that shouldn't be like that
[15:13:56]<acbot>ah ok
[15:14:06]<acbot>;) still finding bugs without trying
[15:14:18]<anarcat>mig5 fixed critical issues that were in my code so maybe that was one thing that slipped through the release :)
[15:14:40]<anarcat>acbot: if you create a new client, is there an email field, and is it required?
[15:15:01]<anarcat>i completely *removed* the email field from the code - even though the column may still be there in the DB, it shouldn't be in the client form
[15:15:11]<anarcat>ah, and that's unless you create a user when you create a client too :)
[15:15:15]<anarcat>which is a setting in hosting
[15:15:20]<anarcat>maybe that's your problem here
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[15:16:24]<acbot>create content > client still has email address and asks for it to be confirmed.. both required
[15:16:33]<acbot>let me check that setting
[15:17:03]<acbot>not set to create user account when client is added
[15:17:16]<acbot>seems like a bug then
[15:17:21]<acbot>oh whoops
[15:17:22]<acbot>hang
[15:17:32]<acbot>i got too many tabs open
[15:17:36]<acbot>that was from pre rc3
[15:17:41]<anarcat>ha-ah!
[15:17:47]<anarcat>phew! :)
[15:17:47]<acbot>mm
[15:17:48]<acbot>no
[15:17:52]<anarcat>dude :P
[15:17:52]<acbot>sorry what i said is true
[15:17:58]<acbot>still there in rc3
[15:18:02]<anarcat>wtf
[15:18:05]<anarcat>in the client node form?
[15:18:14]<acbot>create content > client
[15:18:33]<acbot>this has been upgraded from pre rc3, not a clean install
[15:19:00]<anarcat> if (!$node->nid && variable_get('hosting_client_register_user', FALSE)) {
[15:19:00]<anarcat> $form['email'] = array(
[15:19:12]<anarcat>this form element shouldn't show up unless hosting_client_register_user is true
[15:19:18]<anarcat>drush @hostmaster variable-get hosting_client_register_user
[15:20:03]<acbot>No matching variable found.
[15:20:56]<anarcat>this is in client/hosting_client.module:158, see for yourself
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[15:22:17]<ryanarmstrong>Has anyone run the Barracuda script and had the problem where loading https://aegir.mydomain.com goes to SQLBuddy instead of Aegir?
[15:22:51]<acbot>there might have been an issue with my upgrade.. let me get back to you
[15:23:17]<anarcat>acbot: double-check you have the right client/hosting_client.module
[15:23:28]<anarcat>e999805e351625a45bcdd57d7a0e7ebc hosting_client.module
[15:23:29]<anarcat>here
[15:23:30]<anarcat>rc3
[15:23:43]<acbot>everything is rc3 but hosting.module seems to be old
[15:23:53]<acbot>ill up it and check more
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[15:24:42]<anarcat>maybe the upgrade script doesn't actually upgrade
[15:25:00]<EclipseGc>anarcat: uh... platform migrate seems broke :-(
[15:25:23]<ryanarmstrong>Also, when I run Barracuda, is it supposed to send me an email with my login information? Like the pass for Aegir or Webmin?
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[15:26:09]<EclipseGc>in rc3
[15:26:11]<anarcat>EclipseGc: mass migrate?
[15:26:16]<EclipseGc>anarcat: yup
[15:26:21]<anarcat>EclipseGc: broken how?
[15:26:42]<EclipseGc>anarcat: the modal popus up and says I don't have access (I'm user 1)
[15:27:06]<anarcat>ah
[15:27:07]<EclipseGc>anarcat: if I refresh the platform page after that the title of the platform becomes "are you sure you want to migrate blah blah blah..."
[15:27:11]<anarcat>i merged a patch re that recently, hold on
[15:27:43]<anarcat>commit 9fcd3a4570cfc503bff10db42ba46481fe2e95b8
[15:28:17]<anarcat>EclipseGc: http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/commitdiff/b9ad607f85283a0b...
[15:28:25]<anarcat>can you try reverting that patch?
[15:30:39]<ryanarmstrong>hmm both aegir.designedbyellipsis.com and the IP direct to SQPBuddy instead of Aegir
[15:30:57]<ryanarmstrong>and just the regular www.designedbyellipsis.com
[15:31:05]<ryanarmstrong>Was there a setting I missed in Barracuda?
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[15:35:21]<anarcat>EclipseGc / acbot : please do open a critical issues with your bugs if you can reproduce them, that shouldn't be allowed in 1.0
[15:35:31]<acbot>anarcat: will do
[15:35:36]<acbot>i dont think its a bug though
[15:35:43]<acbot>i suspect its due to old packages
[15:36:43]<acbot>anarcat: quick question.. can i use $DRUSH hostmaster-migrate $AEGIR_DOMAIN $DRUPAL_DIR where the platform is the same as the current one.. ie not moving platforms
[15:36:56]<anarcat>i wouldn't try that
[15:37:14]<anarcat>in the best case scenario, this would end up being just $DRUSH @hostmaster updatedb :P
[15:37:23]<anarcat>assuming you update the code yourself first, of rcourse
[15:37:32]<anarcat>hostmaster-migrate will not touch existing platform other than verifying them
[15:38:20]<acbot>ok... ill migrate it
[15:38:29]<acbot>to a new home
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[15:42:12]<ryanarmstrong>Looking in my SQL, there doesn't seem to be a database for the hostmaster, it looks as iff the hostmaster Drupal 6 didn't actually instal, but I got no error messsages while the Barracuda script was running, in fact I saw messages saying that Aegir hostmaster had been installed properly
[15:46:06]<EclipseGc>anarcat: attempting to re-upgrade and unapply that patch
[15:46:30]* EclipseGc hates dealing w/ diff & patch
[15:46:33]<anarcat>EclipseGc: you should be able to apply the patch as a hotfix
[15:46:54]<EclipseGc>anarcat: not sure I know how to do that
[15:47:10]<anarcat>okay let's see
[15:47:18]<anarcat>cd /var/aegir/hostmaster*/profiles/hostmaster
[15:47:37]<anarcat>curl http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/patch/b9ad607f85283a0bbb138... | patch -p1 --dry-run
[15:47:45]<anarcat>^^^ check if this succeeds, if it does, then run:
[15:47:47]<anarcat>curl http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git/patch/b9ad607f85283a0bbb138... | patch -p1
[15:47:54]<anarcat>EclipseGc: ^^
[15:48:04]<anarcat>oh wait
[15:48:09]<anarcat>try to rebuild the node access table :P
[15:48:11]* EclipseGc is waiting
[15:48:16]<EclipseGc>ok
[15:48:23]<anarcat>then try the above patch and rebuild the node access table again
[15:49:19]<EclipseGc>anarcat: is it possible that the problem was node access from the beginning?
[15:50:07]<anarcat>it is.
[15:50:15]<anarcat>we don't rebuild that table so often anymore, so maybe that's the issue here
[15:50:17]<EclipseGc>anarcat: I'll try tha tfirst
[15:50:25]<anarcat>yes, plz do
[15:50:31]<EclipseGc>deploying a new platform to test against
[15:52:51]<EclipseGc>zzzz
[15:52:55]<EclipseGc>drush make zzzz
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[15:56:41]<EclipseGc>anarcat: for the record, it looks like it's only rebuilding one node's worth of access (this is my local dev box, so no fancy client stuff)
[15:57:16]<EclipseGc>anarcat: and this is what it sets my title to
[15:57:17]<EclipseGc>'Are you sure you want to perform the "" task on each of the following sites?'
[15:59:23]<anarcat>i really don't get why it's setting your node title
[16:01:33]<EclipseGc>made the mistake of telling vmware to delete some snapshots... zzzz
[16:03:03]<EclipseGc>anarcat: did NOT fix, rebuilding node access again just to check
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[16:04:21]<EclipseGc>anarcat: ok, unreversed the patch, which project do I file a bug against?
[16:04:36]<anarcat>EclipseGc: hosting, thanks!
[16:04:55]<EclipseGc>anarcat: np
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[16:05:52]<EclipseGc>anarcat: on d.o?
[16:06:06]<EclipseGc>anarcat: or on community.aegirproject?
[16:06:21]<anarcat>d.o
[16:06:25]<anarcat>issues are always on d.o
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[16:07:44]<EclipseGc>anarcat: ok, so hosting is not in sync release wise with aegir?
[16:08:49]<EclipseGc>anarcat: .4 alpha3?
[16:10:28]<anarcat>yeah, ignore those version numbers
[16:10:37]<anarcat>we still can't make a "real" hostmaster release, we rely on tags right now
[16:11:26]<EclipseGc>anarcat: k
[16:11:29]<EclipseGc>anarcat: http://drupal.org/node/1111532
[16:11:29]<acbot>anarcat: if i use a --makefile with hostmaster-migrate does that stop the 'aegir' makefile from running?
[16:12:34]<acbot>dont worry.. it seems to :p
[16:12:35]<acbot>doh
[16:12:52]<anarcat>it doesn't "stop" it, it just changes what makefile is used ;)
[16:12:57]<anarcat>so you need to override the aegir makefile
[16:13:11]<acbot>ya
[16:13:14]<acbot>ok
[16:13:27]<acbot>where is the aegir.makefile? is it in provision?
[16:14:10]<acbot>yaya ok found it
[16:14:14]<acbot>i am an idiot
[16:15:02]<anarcat>see this makefile: http://git.koumbit.net/?p=drupal/makefiles.git;a=blob_plain;f=aegir/aegi...
[16:15:08]<anarcat>for an example of an override
[16:15:57]<anarcat>EclipseGc: can you clarify in the issue, for the record, what exactly "fails" in the mass migration?
[16:16:01]<anarcat>i may not remember tomorrow :)
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[16:21:35]<anarcat>Vertice / mig5 / others: http://community.aegirproject.org/roadmap/2.0
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[16:29:18]<HaloFX>Just finished upgrading from rc2, is this anything to be concerned about? Everything seems OK. But there were a couple warnings regarding deploy.provision.inc just after the database was created.
[16:30:01]<mig5>those are ok to ignore
[16:30:05]<anarcat>HaloFX: we have one known issue in rc3: http://drupal.org/node/1111532
[16:30:09]<mig5>long-existing issue that i've not fixed
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[16:30:37]<mig5>HaloFX: were they 'argument is not an array' something-or-other on line 80-something?
[16:31:26]<HaloFX>mig5: yes, 84, 88, 89
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[16:31:31]<mig5>yep, cool
[16:31:43]<mig5>wouldn't worry about them: they've been there for quite a few releases :P
[16:32:04]<mig5>Mostly Harmless as douglas adams would say
[16:32:33]<HaloFX>Cool, another smooth upgrade! Thanks for the work guys!!
[16:33:50]<EclipseGc>anarcat: done
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[16:35:40]<anarcat>EclipseGc: thanks again
[16:35:48]<EclipseGc>anarcat: np, thank you
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[16:38:46]<anarcat>now that's an amazing flamewar http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/146976
[16:41:34]<anarcat>darthsteven: you may want to add your stuff as a patch to this: https://drupal.org/node/338621
[16:42:53]<mig5>hah, yeah
[16:42:56]<mig5> /run
[16:44:03]<anarcat>that is so hilarious
[16:44:12]<anarcat>i'm all for /run ing
[16:44:21]<anarcat>there are so many puns to do with this
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[16:44:25]<anarcat>flamewar! /run!
[16:44:28]<mig5>jeeesus that's a huge threda
[16:44:32]<mig5>thread*
[16:44:56]* anarcat is quite happy of the 2.0 roadmap
[16:45:11]<mig5>yes! thanks for posting that
[16:45:31]* anarcat has changed the topic to Aegir hosting system 1.0-rc3 released! http://community.aegirproject.org/1.0-rc3 | Issue queue: http://is.gd/edalY | read this before asking: http://community.aegirproject.org/bugs | scrums on tuesday 2200UTC | 2.0 roadmap published http://community.aegirproject.org/roadmap/2.0 comment and contribute!
[16:45:41]<mig5>i'll tweet it
[16:45:56]<anarcat>cool
[16:48:34]<EclipseGc>anarcat: requested page not found: http://community.aegirproject.org/roadmap/2
[16:49:03]<EclipseGc>anarcat: shouldn't have put the .0 in there
[16:49:09]<EclipseGc>anarcat: screwed up the url in twitter
[16:49:14]<mig5>yeah i posted that
[16:49:26]<mig5>twitter can kiss my arse :)
[16:49:42]<anarcat>yes, it certainly can.
[16:49:44]<mig5>it works in my twitter client, so there :P
[16:49:58]<mig5>hehe
[16:50:31]<ryanarmstrong>Does anyone here have some experience setting up Aegir with Barracuda?
[16:50:32]<EclipseGc>mig5: yeah... but I'm using twitter.com's actual interface
[16:50:34]<EclipseGc>just saying
[16:50:35]<EclipseGc>;-)
[16:50:55]<EclipseGc>typically computers and fish (or water) don't mix...
[16:51:20]<snlnz>ryanarmstrong: https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/blob/master/BARRACUDA.sh.txt
[16:51:24]<snlnz>:)
[16:51:56]<ryanarmstrong>Heh yea, no I've gone through an install using the script and things didn't work, so now I'm trying to debug
[16:52:18]<ryanarmstrong>I just had a couple questions about it to see if I messed something up
[16:52:31]<snlnz>what didn't work? ask away and I'm sure you'll get a response in here
[16:52:49]* anarcat is all hyped up on 2.0 ship
[16:52:52]<anarcat>shit
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[16:53:16]<mig5>come back down to earth :) i need you for the 1.0 release yet! :P
[16:53:23]<EclipseGc>anarcat: can I toss a video at you real quick? and see if you're ok w/ a UI in aegir similar to this?
[16:53:57]<ryanarmstrong>Well I went through and everything seemed fine, but whenever I went to aegir.mydomain.com it went to SQLBuddy instead of Aegir. When I went to my SQL DB, I didn't see a DB for the hostmaster, so I went into the Aegir dir, and in sites/aegir.mydomain.com/ was nothing but a settings.php file
[16:54:12]<ryanarmstrong>So it looks like the drupal 6 hostmaster didn't actually install
[16:55:10]<ryanarmstrong>I was curious if when you specifify a version of Aegir in BARRACUDA.sh.txt do you just leave it at 1.0-boa-T
[16:55:11]<EclipseGc>anarcat: specifically wanting to do something similar to the first video on this playlist: http://www.youtube.com/my_playlists?p=EFD8FDE69D61DCA3 (this is my module that I'm trying to demo and drum up some buzz behind, but I think it could be useful for aegir as well from a UI standpoint on creating new sites, platforms, etc)
[16:55:22]<ryanarmstrong>or are you supposed to tell it which version you want, like 1.0-rc3
[16:56:14]<anarcat>mig5: okay okay ;)
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[16:56:23]<anarcat>mig5: i *will* be starting work on 2.x next week though
[16:56:30]<ryanarmstrong>I left it at boa-T the first time, which didn't end up working. Though everything seemed to install fine. I even saw messages confirming that Aegir hostmaster had been setup properly. And all of the optional stuff worked too, like SQLBUddy and Webmin
[16:56:47]<anarcat>EclipseGc: this url is asking me for a password :)
[16:56:55]<EclipseGc>anarcat: oh just a sec
[16:57:01]<EclipseGc>anarcat: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=EFD8FDE69D61DCA3
[16:57:04]* anarcat just discovered packages.debian.org/ksplice
[16:57:04]<EclipseGc>anarcat: my bad :-)
[16:57:38]<anarcat>EclipseGc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luc-bGGxa6c&p=EFD8FDE69D61DCA3 ?
[16:58:01]<EclipseGc>anarcat: I'm off to bed, and yes that's it
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[17:09:10]<anarcat>okay, going to try to sleep too
[17:09:13]<anarcat>ciao tlm
[17:10:02]<mig5>a+
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[18:03:07]<acbot>hey anarcat, sorry to make you panic before :p its all good.. fields are gone from clients
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[18:22:58]<garyfenn>Has anyone set up Aegir on a GoDaddy dedicated server?? I am having problems with setting up the DNS section of the install.
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[21:10:17]<omega8cc>hefring: tell ryanarmstrong: please use GitHub queue to post issues, and in this case check the vhost file for the hostmaster and replace *:80 with youripaddress:80 and restart Nginx (it looks like system or env specific issue but I experienced this only on Linode so far, twice)
[21:10:17]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when ryanarmstrong is around.
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[00:23:25]<standr>hi everyone
[00:23:42]<standr>I have a (hopefully) quick question about aegir and upgrading drush
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[00:24:30]<standr>does anyone know if I can upgrade drush from 3.3 to 4.4 without upgrading anything else in aegir?
[00:24:31]<standr>I
[00:24:51]<standr>currently using aegir 0.4 beta 2
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[01:03:04]<standr>no ideas?
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[01:05:42]<jlkinsel>standr - on 0.4b2 something will probably break
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[01:06:07]<jvc26>aegir has only just been updated to use drush 4.4 and make 2.2 as of -rc3
[01:06:08]<jlkinsel>they just added support for drush4 in the rc3 from what i understand
[01:06:42]<standr>right, that's kinda what I thought as well
[01:06:44]<standr>thanks
[01:07:18]<standr>I did try it and it did break, but I wasn't sure if it's solely because of that or I hadn't done something else too
[01:07:29]<jlkinsel>(to whoever's running @aegir - the link for the roadmap's broken)
[01:07:34]<jlkinsel>sorry @aegirproject
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[01:27:23]<bgm>jlkinsel: on twitter, identi.ca or the website?
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[01:30:20]<jlkinsel>twitter
[01:30:29]<jlkinsel>the . is breakin the link
[01:30:46]<jlkinsel>https://twitter.com/#!/aegirproject/status/53332468794798080
[01:31:09]<joestewart>jkinsel: yeah, sometime last night they were saying that the twitter website was messing it up but other clients followed the link fine.
[01:31:58]<jlkinsel>ah wel
[01:32:00]<jlkinsel>wel
[01:32:50]<bgm>jlkinsel: thanks, indeed not linked well. i sent a message to two of the people who manage the site (anarcat and ergonlogic)
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[01:35:51]<ergonlogic>bgm jlkinsel: thanks for the heads-up. I've added an alias for /roadmap/2, so it should work now
[01:35:59]<jlkinsel>cool
[01:36:18]<jlkinsel>nope still 404
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[01:36:43]<ergonlogic>jlkinsel: try CTRL-F5
[01:37:18]<jlkinsel>you mean shift-apple-r? ;) yeah did that and tried 2 browsers
[01:37:24]<bgm>same here, still 404
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[01:39:10]<bgm>ergonlogic: ah, it'S the drupal cache
[01:39:40]<bgm>cache flushed :)
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[01:40:05]<jlkinsel>there ya go
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[01:41:06]<ergonlogic>ah ok
[01:41:10]<ergonlogic>thanks again
[01:45:48]* ergonlogic just installed rc3 without a hitch (http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/manual)
[01:46:57]<ergonlogic>anarcat: IIRC, you'd had some success with debian packaging for drush/aegir
[01:47:07]<anarcat>yes
[01:47:10]<ergonlogic>anarcat: but I couldn't find any reference to them
[01:47:30]<ergonlogic>I added the debian.koumbit.net repo
[01:48:21]<ergonlogic>I'd like to test it next time, like next week probably
[01:49:12]<anarcat>ok
[01:49:46]<ergonlogic>thx
[01:54:52]<anarcat>mig5: you still up?
[01:55:39]<joestewart>anarcat: Regarding 1016890 creating a cluster, I get out of memory error with --backend, but from the shell with --debug no errors. I don't think the alias gets created correctly but I don't have a correct example.
[01:55:43]* anarcat considering dropping the master branch until we release 1.0 - because we have almost no divergence and it's confusing
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[01:56:07]<anarcat>joestewart: can you run the task with hosting-task <nid> --debug?
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[02:00:01]<anarcat>ergonlogic / omega8cc / sfyn_: what do you think? the master branch is in the way, i feel, i think we should just delete it
[02:01:17]<ergonlogic>I don't feel qualified to answer, but I trust your judgement... It should be trivial to re-create it though, if necessary, no?
[02:02:12]<anarcat>yes
[02:02:49]<joestewart>anarcat: Earlier this week was my first time to test the cluster feature. I might be doing something wrong. here is what I got from hosting-task - https://gist.github.com/58181fc3aaab74391fef
[02:05:55]* ergonlogic loves the new drush... offering to download unmet dependencies when enabling a module :)
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[02:13:05]<joestewart>I realized after setting up this vm to help test clusters that I just let it install php5.3. Hopefully not a problem there.
[02:13:26]<anarcat><sigh>
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[02:13:33]<anarcat>I *can't* remove the freaking master branch
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[02:16:51]<anarcat>joestewart: checking
[02:17:11]<lukus>I've had problems with php5.3 and drupal in general .. but that was a while ago
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[02:17:53]<darthsteven>anarcat: Which branch it git is the 'stable' branch?
[02:18:00]<darthsteven>*in git
[02:18:06]<anarcat>darthsteven: 6.x-1.x
[02:18:21]<darthsteven>anarcat: cool
[02:18:25]<darthsteven>anarcat: Thanks
[02:19:47]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: I'd like to co-ordinate tackling: http://drupal.org/node/1111254
[02:20:15]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: Adding a lot of API documentation
[02:20:32]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: great!
[02:20:57]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: Step 1 is getting a (large) list of hooks that need documenting
[02:21:14]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: Then writing the docs for those hooks :)
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[02:21:26]<anarcat>step 3 is getting commit access, i can help with that :P
[02:21:39]<darthsteven>anarcat: I was about to politely ask...
[02:21:40]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: then submitting patches to hosting.api.php :)
[02:21:54]<anarcat>darthsteven: you are being politely offered :)
[02:21:56]<ergonlogic>and I guess provision.api.php too
[02:22:23]<darthsteven>anarcat: Could we have a dev-documentation branch, that we keep in line with 'stable'
[02:22:43]<darthsteven>anarcat: so you can just merge it in periodically...
[02:22:56]<darthsteven>anarcat: And can I have commit access please?
[02:23:01]<darthsteven>:)
[02:23:16]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: yes, we'll need to look a provision too...
[02:24:19]<anarcat>darthsteven: i think i need a go from the other devs, but since i already talked about this with mig5 and i haven't seen Vertice or univate for a while, i think it's okay if i just let you in, i'll mail the guys to make sure it's alright
[02:24:46]<anarcat>darthsteven: i *do* hope you'll also make a feature branch for the garbage collection and php daemon work you've been doing :)
[02:25:03]<anarcat>joestewart: i answered you question in the issue
[02:25:51]<anarcat>crap
[02:26:13]<anarcat>darthsteven: so apparently I *CAN'T* give you commit access, as i am not a full admin on those projects... now i'll *really* need to bug the others :)
[02:28:30]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: so how do we go about step 1? is there some way to identify hooks?
[02:28:32]<darthsteven>anarcat: well, you know I may make other branches :) who knows!
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[02:28:59]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: I'm going to basically scan the codebase for where hooks are invoked and compile a table
[02:29:09]<darthsteven>I should have something in an hour or so
[02:29:27]<anarcat>darthsteven: awesome :)
[02:29:34]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: so, you're looking for module_invoke()'s?
[02:29:34]<darthsteven>then we'll make a lot of noise in the issue queue by raising an each for each hook...
[02:29:43]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: basically
[02:29:56]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: but there are also other ways to invoke a hook
[02:30:03]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: esp. in Aegir :(
[02:30:11]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: k, kinda what I figured
[02:30:17]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: And there are also drush hooks
[02:30:18]<darthsteven>but
[02:30:31]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: but documenting some is better than none
[02:30:50]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: Thanks for raising the issue and thus kicking me about it
[02:30:54]<ergonlogic>well... I'm sure *someone* will be able to help fill the gaps
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[02:31:03]<ergonlogic>;)
[02:33:04]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: Yeah, this is going to be a big effort I feel, because we going to need to get devs to explain to us what the hooks are for, though most are documented in the code a little already
[02:33:15]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: Just their existence is not
[02:33:26]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: so let's use http://drupal.org/node/1111254 as a meta issue to list all the hooks you find, and that others contribute
[02:33:57]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: That's the plan...
[02:33:57]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: could http://api.aegirproject.org help here?
[02:34:37]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: Maybe, but suspect that we'll actually want to raise issues for each hook to get it documented, so keeping it on d.o would be nice
[02:34:41]<anarcat>i can lend my brain to explain what i know, for sure
[02:35:00]<anarcat>i wonder if we can just ask api.module what hooks have 0 docs
[02:35:10]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: might need to pop a post on c.a.o calling for attention
[02:35:34]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: k, that's something I can handle
[02:35:58]<jlkinsel>hm. https://drupal.org/node/762138 is sorta troubling, I'll have to think about that...
[02:36:04]<ergonlogic>anarcat: iirc, api.module has a problem identifying hooks
[02:36:23]<anarcat>ergonlogic: yeah, but i was talking about just regular functions
[02:36:29]<ergonlogic>or maybe it was just hook implementations...
[02:36:38]<ergonlogic>ah, ok
[02:36:41]<anarcat>ergonlogic / darthsteven : when you find undocumented hooks, it could be good to add sample code to the example modules
[02:38:25]<anarcat>mig5: you're commits are credited again!!! :)
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[02:43:30]<darthsteven>anarcat, ergonlogic: the main problem is hooks like the one in: hosting_nodeapi
[02:43:44]<anarcat>that one is ridiculous if you ask me
[02:43:51]<darthsteven>hook_nodeapi_TYPE_OP
[02:43:53]<darthsteven>madness1
[02:43:57]<darthsteven>*madness!
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[02:44:42]<anarcat>madness!!
[02:44:43]<ergonlogic>"We need to practically re-invent module_invoke_all here"
[02:44:58]<ergonlogic>scary
[02:45:54]<anarcat>that was probably me
[02:48:31]<anarcat>joestewart: can you try to run with only *one* of the clusters added? like --cluster_web_servers='@server_vs72mcnutilitycom' ?
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[02:50:00]<joestewart>anarcat: I did that first. It had the same recursion error.
[02:51:49]<anarcat>joestewart: okay, that's odd
[02:52:04]<anarcat>joestewart: can you post the recursion backtrace?
[02:52:10]<joestewart>yup
[02:55:01]<joestewart>added comment to https://gist.github.com/58181fc3aaab74391fef
[02:55:37]<anarcat>hehe, as i suspected, that doesn't say much :)
[02:57:29]<ergonlogic>fyi: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/525
[02:59:00]<anarcat>this reminds me
[02:59:11]<anarcat>didn't we talk about having 'maintainers' for different parts of the project?
[02:59:16]<anarcat>like omega8cc can be nginx
[02:59:43]<anarcat>mig5 is continuous integration, releng, maintenance, and general fix every regression we can possibly create guy
[02:59:54]<anarcat>darthsteven and you are docs
[03:00:05]<anarcat>there's tbosviel for dns
[03:00:18]<anarcat>darthsteven could also work on queueing stuff
[03:00:31]<anarcat>i can be security
[03:00:34]<anarcat>and i'm the all around goto guy anyways
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[03:02:06]<joestewart>anarcat: yeah that line in provisionService_http_cluster expects cluster_web_servers to be an array. Other than that nothing yet
[03:02:15]<anarcat>ah!
[03:02:20]<anarcat>i even didn't look at that yet
[03:02:29]<anarcat>joestewart: which line is that?
[03:02:47]<joestewart>line 16 in cluster_service.inc
[03:02:54]<jlkinsel>I'm happy to help out on the security side of things...
[03:02:56]<joestewart>the command line has comma separated
[03:03:28]<anarcat>jlkinsel: hi :)
[03:03:34]<jlkinsel>heh
[03:03:35]<anarcat>jlkinsel: i am not familiar with your nick
[03:04:09]<anarcat>joestewart: how should we proceed with this - i don't have a good test env for clusters, can i send you patches or get access?
[03:04:18]<jlkinsel>haven't contributed yet...I'd like to say I'm more than a lurker, but not by much
[03:04:32]<jlkinsel>go by proindustries on do
[03:04:54]<anarcat>jlkinsel: gotcha, well, all contributions are welcome!
[03:05:13]<joestewart>unfortunately I set this up on a spare server in our office, no outside IP and behind a firewall. You can send me patches for now I guess.
[03:06:13]<jlkinsel>cool. my biggest issue is time...but the security-related aspects of aegir impact how i'm using it, so will see what I can do
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[03:10:03]<anarcat>man
[03:10:13]<anarcat>setContext() is one of the darkest things in provision
[03:10:21]<anarcat>darthsteven: you know about that?
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[03:11:59]<anarcat>gosh
[03:12:02]<jlkinsel>it could just call the constructor. ;)
[03:12:07]<anarcat>that thing man, it's so weird
[03:12:21]<anarcat>sure but what is it *for*?
[03:12:34]<anarcat>Retrieve a service of a specific type from the context
[03:12:35]<anarcat>what?
[03:12:43]<darthsteven>what are we looking at?
[03:12:44]<anarcat>Set the currently active context of the service
[03:13:01]<anarcat>./provision.service.inc- /**
[03:13:01]<anarcat>./provision.service.inc- * Set the currently active context of the service.
[03:13:01]<anarcat>./provision.service.inc- */
[03:13:01]<anarcat>./provision.service.inc: function setContext($context) {
[03:13:05]<anarcat>./provision.service.inc- $this->context = is_object($context) ? $context : d($context);
[03:13:08]<anarcat>./provision.service.inc- }
[03:13:26]<jlkinsel>I need to get this code into eclipse so I can see call traces
[03:13:29]<anarcat>this function is only used int two places
[03:13:38]<anarcat>here:
[03:13:39]<anarcat>./provision.context.server.inc- * Retrieve a service of a specific type from the context.
[03:13:42]<anarcat>./provision.context.server.inc- */
[03:13:45]<anarcat>./provision.context.server.inc- function service($service, $name = null) {
[03:13:45]<anarcat>and here:
[03:13:46]<anarcat>./http/cluster/cluster_service.inc: function setContext($name) {
[03:13:49]<anarcat>./provision.context.server.inc: $this->services[$service]->setContext(($name) ? $name : $this->name);
[03:13:52]<anarcat>./http/cluster/cluster_service.inc: parent::setContext($name);
[03:13:54]<anarcat>./http/cluster/cluster_service.inc- foreach ($this->server->cluster_web_servers as $server) {
[03:13:58]<anarcat>./http/cluster/cluster_service.inc: call_user_func_array(array(d($server)->service('http'), 'setContext'), array($name));
[03:14:01]<anarcat>./http/cluster/cluster_service.inc- }
[03:14:04]<anarcat>sorry for the floods
[03:14:06]<anarcat>the latter provokes an infinite loop in the cluster service
[03:14:19]<anarcat>while the former well, i don't even understand what it does either
[03:15:11]<darthsteven>its something to do with contexts and services
[03:15:18]<darthsteven>but that's about all I can tell you
[03:15:23]<anarcat>that much i figured :)
[03:15:31]<anarcat>the only place where the second argument to service() is used is in service() itself or ... the cluster crap
[03:16:20]<anarcat>oh and dns, but that's just a copy of the cluster crap
[03:19:26]<anarcat>i think i am getting it
[03:19:46]<anarcat>services need to be associated with a server context
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[03:23:04]<anarcat>when i see stuff like that, i'm just tempted to rip it all out and see if it still works :P
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[03:26:40]<anarcat>what i don't understand is why there's a provisionService->$context when there's a provisionService->$server next to it...
[03:26:48]<anarcat>if it's not a server context, what *is* it?
[03:29:28]<anarcat>would you look at that
[03:29:35]<anarcat>provisionService->$server is not used anywhere
[03:30:23]<anarcat>nevermind, i'm on crack
[03:32:02]<jlkinsel>heh
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[03:33:45]<anarcat>okay, i clarified a bit that code
[03:34:19]<joestewart>anarcat: should $this->server->setProperty('cluster_web_servers', array(), TRUE); in init_server be getting called before setContext?
[03:34:44]<joestewart>it doesn't seem to be.
[03:35:09]<anarcat>joestewart: it's not?
[03:35:23]<anarcat>i *think* that init_server() should h ave been called already
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[03:36:20]<anarcat>joestewart: how about you try that hotfix to see if it is:
[03:36:20]<anarcat> function init_server() {
[03:36:21]<anarcat> $this->server->setProperty('cluster_web_servers', array(), TRUE);
[03:36:21]<anarcat>+ drush_log('initializing web clusters to @cluster', array('@cluster' => join(',', $this->server->cluster_web_servers)), 'debug');
[03:37:27]<anarcat>joestewart: actually, hold on
[03:38:55]<anarcat>joestewart: https://drupal.org/node/1016890#comment-4287624
[03:39:22]<anarcat>joestewart: try the above hotfix, just apply the patch and run provision-save again to reproduce the loop, we'll get more info i think
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[03:40:53]<anarcat>joestewart: i suspect you may be right in your theory, the debugging code should help in diagnosing the issue
[03:41:01]<anarcat>but i'm getting ahead of myself here, i should be working on clustering, really
[03:41:15]<anarcat>joestewart: unless you guys want to sponsor that work :P
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[03:47:32]<joestewart>anarcat: wish I could reference a comment anchor on gist. I added the output with that debug patch at https://gist.github.com/58181fc3aaab74391fef Looked like it is initializing. But still comma delimted?
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[03:49:30]<anarcat>joestewart: no that's normal
[03:51:07]<anarcat>joestewart: it looks like it thinks that the slave servers are clusters too
[03:51:29]<joestewart>ah.
[03:53:08]<joestewart>yes, I see the "calling setContext" debug statement looks like it parsed it OK at that point.
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[03:54:47]<anarcat>joestewart: uploaded a new patch
[03:55:44]<joestewart>anarcat: applying now,thanks.
[04:02:18]<joestewart>anarcat: updated output - https://gist.github.com/58181fc3aaab74391fef
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[04:07:38]<anarcat>joestewart: yet another
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[04:10:11]<joestewart>brb, got a different server problem
[04:20:06]<anarcat>joestewart: feel free to puth further traces directly in the issue, i think it's better that way
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[04:28:25]<anarcat>ergonlogic: i believe the manual install docs should be merged into a single page just like the install docs: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/429
[04:28:54]<ergonlogic>anarcat: uh, upgrade docs?
[04:29:11]<anarcat>er yes
[04:29:12]<anarcat>sorry
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[04:29:35]<ergonlogic>k
[04:29:42]<ergonlogic>I won't be able to get to it today
[04:29:48]<anarcat>ergonlogic: ok
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[04:32:59]<ezgfenn21>Anyone have success setting up Aegir on Godaddy dedicated servers?
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[04:42:43]<anarcat>Les NOUVEAUX paquets suivants seront installés :
[04:42:43]<anarcat> aegir aegir-hostmaster aegir-provision
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[04:52:44]<arielqgold>if i have a site setup in aegir, can i manually create a new database and new user, and make changes in site's settings.php?
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[04:53:58]<ezgfenn21>arielqgold: Just out of curiosity, why?
[04:55:53]<arielqgold>ezgfenn21: well, i'm using remote mysql to connect to database for stamps.con integration. and customer has stamps.com client setup already, would rather just have old database name rather than the one generated automatically by aegir so customer doesn't have to change
[04:56:38]<arielqgold>ezgfenn21: or maybe is there a way to alias a database in mysql?
[04:57:14]<ezgfenn21>arielqgold: Ok that makes sense. I think it is possible just have to make sure that the other configuration files are there as well.
[04:58:44]<arielqgold>ok, thanks
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[05:04:24]<anarcat>mig5: i have brought back hostmaster-pause as hosting-pause
[05:04:35]<anarcat>and renamed hostmaster-resume as hosting-resume
[05:04:39]<anarcat>things are now clearer there
[05:04:53]<anarcat>and i removed all traces of hostmaster-pause/resume from provision, as this was in hosting anyways
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[05:14:59]<ezgfenn21>I am getting an "Dummy connection failed to fail:" when running the install script and I have tried everything that I know.. can someone point me in the right direction for trouble shooting..?
[05:15:39]<anarcat>that's a new one
[05:15:47]<anarcat>do you have all requirements installed?
[05:15:57]<anarcat>ie. do you have the mysql commandline client and a mysql server?
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[05:18:33]<ezgfenn21>Yeah, I do.
[05:19:15]<ezgfenn21>I have installed aegir about 200 times before using debian... but I am using ubuntu 8 and it is not liking it.
[05:20:53]<ergonlogic>anarcat: documented my installation of provisionacl at: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/526
[05:21:26]<ergonlogic>anarcat: filed a support request at: http://drupal.org/node/1112314
[05:21:31]<ergonlogic>just fyi
[05:21:40]<ergonlogic>gtg
[05:22:40]<ezgfenn21>Thanks
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[05:27:02]<ergonlogic>anarcat: btw, re. your earlier comment about sub-maintainers, I'd be happy to be a doc maintainer
[05:27:40]<anarcat>okay
[05:27:46]<anarcat>not sure where to maintain that information
[05:27:58]* anarcat tweaking the debian package
[05:28:25]<darthsteven>anarcat: On the community site, with a link to it from the various project pages?
[05:28:37]<anarcat>darthsteven: i guess?
[05:28:51]<darthsteven>I'm also okay with being 'known' for documentation
[05:29:19]<darthsteven>anarcat: Otherwise I guess in the codebase somewhere
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[05:35:11]<anarcat>i think it's fine if it's known
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[05:36:52]<anarcat>ergonlogic: i'm screwing up with hostmaster big time, testing the debian package
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[05:44:57]<omega8cc>anarcat: I promise to change my habits and then maybe I can be a Nginx side co-maintainer? :)
[05:45:09]<anarcat>omega8cc: yes!
[05:45:17]<anarcat>that will save us a huge pile of work
[05:45:31]<anarcat>now we just need to recover admin rights on the project pages on drupal.org and we'll have a bunch of new maintainers :)
[05:46:02]<omega8cc>anarcat: great! thank you :)
[05:46:24]<anarcat>ergonlogic: i think we'll need to allow at least admins to change the internal name, if only for migrations
[05:46:40]<anarcat>because now in the staging server, i have Koumbit18 clients :P
[05:47:27]<omega8cc>anarcat: re: removing master branch - I don't think it is possible on d.o?
[05:49:26]<anarcat>omega8cc: it's possible, if there's no release node on the branch
[05:49:44]<anarcat>and since we still have a hostmaster release node *and* we can't remove the release node because the .make file is not valid, we're stuck :P
[05:49:48]<anarcat>but i removed it on provision
[05:51:12]<omega8cc>ah, right
[05:52:42]<anarcat>fixed! :)
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[06:01:08]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: http://drupal.org/node/1111254#comment-4287518 a long list...
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[06:07:07]<anarcat>ergonlogic / darthsteven : how to upgrade aegir debian packages: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/432
[06:07:35]<jlkinsel>anybody doing rpms yet?
[06:09:18]<darthsteven>anarcat: cool!
[06:09:59]<anarcat>jlkinsel: not AFAIK
[06:10:10]<anarcat>darthsteven / ergonlogic : debian package install http://community.aegirproject.org/node/400
[06:10:11]<jlkinsel>any interest in that?
[06:10:13]<anarcat>and testing
[06:10:15]<anarcat>needs love
[06:10:16]<anarcat>jlkinsel: always
[06:10:29]<jlkinsel>'k. will see if I can put it together in the next few days
[06:10:39]<jlkinsel>used to to the packages for my last company
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[06:11:24]<darthsteven>anarcat: Could do with a pointer for adding the repos to apt's sources
[06:11:40]<jlkinsel>you might want to put something in the docs about modifying source.list...I don't see it in there
[06:12:29]<darthsteven>anarcat: Also, thank you for the packages!
[06:12:55]<anarcat>darthsteven: that should be self-documented on debian.k.n
[06:13:04]<darthsteven>ah, cool
[06:13:10]<anarcat>darthsteven: but feel free to add this:
[06:13:11]<anarcat>aegir@hostmaster:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koumbit-unstable.list
[06:13:11]<anarcat>deb http://debian.koumbit.net/debian unstable main
[06:13:19]<anarcat>then apt-get update...
[06:15:41]<anarcat>i haven't tested the install from scratch, but it should "just work"
[06:15:51]<darthsteven>anarcat: I've added a little note to the top of node/400
[06:17:53]<jlkinsel>cache is hiding it again
[06:17:58]<jlkinsel>"hiding"
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[06:20:32]<RockSoup>I am having a problem installing aegir using the install.sh script on my vps
[06:20:53]<RockSoup>I keep getting the error: # chdir(): No such file or directory (errno 2) drush_make.download.inc:428 [warning]
[06:21:18]* anarcat uploaded -7
[06:21:24]<RockSoup>the output is seen here: http://drupalbin.com/17968
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[06:28:48]<darthsteven>so you know the whole sites as subfolders thing?
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[06:29:08]<darthsteven>a project we've got just changed so we need to have our site in a sub folder, not a sub domain
[06:29:25]<darthsteven>is there any 'easy' way to put a site in a subfolder with Aegir?
[06:29:40]<darthsteven>(and yes it is very silly)
[06:29:56]<jlkinsel>as in put all of that drupal install in a subdir?
[06:30:13]<jlkinsel>I'd just create a new platform in that dir, import it, migrate the site
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[06:31:14]<darthsteven>as in have domains like: www.example.com/site1
[06:31:15]<adrinux>move it out of aegir?
[06:31:21]<darthsteven>www.example.com/site2
[06:31:31]<jlkinsel>ah
[06:31:35]* jlkinsel nfis
[06:31:46]<darthsteven>adrinux: Yeah, but I really like Aegir
[06:31:50]<darthsteven>a lot
[06:32:06]<adrinux>me too
[06:32:32]<adrinux>afaik you can't do subfolders in aegir though
[06:32:46]<adrinux>not that I know much
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[06:44:42]<darthsteven>it was discussed in the roadmap bof at Chicago Drupalcon, but I did pay attention because it's silly, but then our client gave us some stupid requirements...
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[07:08:21]<darthsteven>I wonder if I could fake it
[07:08:36]<darthsteven>add a mod rewrite to remove the subfolder
[07:08:43]<darthsteven>and then fix the base_path
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[07:10:30]<darthsteven>or some kind of symlink
[07:10:41]<darthsteven>or just not use Aegir
[07:10:54]* darthsteven cries on the inside
[07:14:33]<adrinux>awww
[07:15:09]<adrinux>the client really can't be convinced?
[07:15:14]<capitan__>darthsteven, you want multiple sites in subfolders?
[07:15:27]<capitan__>same platform though?
[07:15:31]<darthsteven>capitan__: just the one actually
[07:16:02]<darthsteven>adrinux: Nope, they are doing some mad mad things
[07:16:03]<capitan__>oh...
[07:16:12]<adrinux>:(
[07:16:22]<darthsteven>capitan__: Is there a nice way to do it?
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[07:16:50]<capitan__>one ugly way is to just hand-hack the vhost file
[07:17:15]<capitan__>but then it'll get reverted i think at every verify
[07:17:18]<darthsteven>that's what I leaning towards
[07:17:26]<capitan__>spaces+purl?
[07:17:33]<darthsteven>ah, but I'll pop a custom module in there to do it for me
[07:17:59]<darthsteven>capitan__: The though had crossed my mind, but seems a waste to do that for every page request
[07:19:02]<capitan__>true
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[07:32:06]<darthsteven>Acquia's DAMP handles subdirectories, I'm have a look to see how it does it
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[08:28:31]<ryanarmstrong>Is it ok to update drush to say 4.4 even if I am using Aegir 1.0 RC1 or even a beta before that?
[08:28:31]<hefring>ryanarmstrong: 11 hours 18 min ago <omega8cc> tell ryanarmstrong: please use GitHub queue to post issues, and in this case check the vhost file for the hostmaster and replace *:80 with youripaddress:80 and restart Nginx (it looks like system or env specific issue but I experienced this only on Linode so far, twice)
[08:29:35]<ryanarmstrong>omega8cc: Thanks for the response, I'll do all of that and report back
[08:30:01]<mig5>ryanarmstrong: it does depend on what version of aegir you are using
[08:30:06]<mig5>earlier releases are not compatible with drush 4
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[08:32:32]<mig5>whee, i am happy we're dragging darthsteven into our team :)
[08:32:43]<ryanarmstrong>mig5: Ok cool, I thought so. Having issues with drush dl drupal
[08:33:00]<ryanarmstrong>Last night you guys were talking about being excited about the 2.0 roadmap
[08:33:15]<ryanarmstrong>I missed the convo, have you guys posted the new roadmap anywhere?
[08:33:19]<mig5>i think our compatibility issue with drush 4 was about saving the context aliases etc
[08:33:35]<mig5>yep http://community.aegirproject.org/roadmap/2.0
[08:33:48]<ryanarmstrong>Awesome thanks!
[08:33:55]<ryanarmstrong>Quick Q, have you ever gotten: Unable to create new databases.
[08:33:55]<ryanarmstrong>Database could not be created.
[08:33:59]<ryanarmstrong>When trying to migrate a site?
[08:34:11]<ryanarmstrong>I migrated several sites today, but one failed with that
[08:34:26]<mig5>any other debug output from the task?
[08:34:37]<ryanarmstrong>And I migrated sites before and after that one failed. It's so weird.
[08:34:42]<mig5>might have been some sort of clash with another db name, or permissions issues with the db superuser
[08:34:46]<ryanarmstrong>Those are the only issues that it threw into the log
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[08:36:07]<mig5>must be some sort of difference about that site: is it on a different remote server or something
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[08:38:31]* mig5 should get out of bed
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[08:47:48]<ryanarmstrong>mig5: No it's all on one server. I've been racking my brain as to why this one particular site could be different
[08:47:53]<ryanarmstrong>It hasn't been fun lol
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[09:19:40]<mig5>damn: forgot to do a joke release of aegir that has Misery module baked in :)
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[09:29:42]<capitan__>mig5, you still have 24 hours here in the US :P
[09:30:01]<capitan__>but now you blew the element of surprise... i'm telling everyone!! ;)
[09:30:20]<welly_>Hey all, thinking about getting an omega8 vps. Anyone running that system?
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[09:46:17]<capitan__>hmm... i just noticed aegir sets the following permissions by default on ssl .key files... aegir:aegir 664 ... wouldn't something more like aegir:www-data 640 be better?
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[10:14:48]<mig5>anarcat: ping
[10:14:53]<anarcat>mig5: pong
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