IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-04-01 (GMT)

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[15:14:28]<HaloFX>Anyone running rc3 and remote sites? I am hitting an error trying to verify remote sites after the rc3 upgrade.
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[15:16:44]<HaloFX>Everything seems fine until it tries to connect to the database and then says Drush can't boostrap the database.
[15:17:19]<HaloFX>Problem is happening with D6 and D7 remote sites.
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[15:48:31]<mvc>mig5: cute :)
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[16:16:32]<anarcat>mig5 / darthsteven : i'm messing up the install docs big time, now that the debian packages are out there
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[16:17:31]<EclipseGc>mig5: nice
[16:17:56]* EclipseGc thinks we should code name the 2.0 release skynet
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[16:29:00]<anarcat>what should be the 1.0 release code name?
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[16:46:52]<anarcat>mig5: i killed install.sh. again.
[16:47:05]<anarcat>mig5: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/377#comment-618
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[17:01:50]<mig5>argh
[17:01:51]<mig5>:)
[17:02:00]<mig5>i loved that script.. it never failed
[17:02:02]<mig5>except for when it did
[17:02:19]<anarcat>:P
[17:02:27]<anarcat>hopefully, install.sh will do that for us now
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[17:03:43]<mig5>apt-get from now on i reckon
[17:03:49]<mig5>none of this manually downloading drush crap :)
[17:04:18]<mig5>now i have no excuse to procrastinate in rewriting my jenkins tests! :D
[17:04:31]<anarcat>:)
[17:04:47]<anarcat>well, people can manually download drush and then drush dl provision if they want to or if they're not on debian
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[17:11:01]<acbot>lel@skynet
[17:13:05]<mig5>we love you acbot
[17:13:19]<acbot>i love you too
[17:13:37]<mig5>i am still using your timekeeping feature in openatrium
[17:13:44]<acbot>orly
[17:13:44]<mig5>it's a lifesaver
[17:13:45]<acbot>cool
[17:13:47]<acbot>:D
[17:14:21]<acbot>the other one had a prettier button
[17:14:27]<acbot>but it didnt seem to work
[17:18:43]<acbot>wahts been doing?
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[17:32:24]<mig5>day of pranks
[17:32:42]<mig5>at work i did something to our network so that any requests to youtube videos played this instead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2LRROpph0
[17:32:47]<mig5>i wasn't at work today though
[17:32:59]<mig5>my junior told me, several people were convinced youtube did the prank, and were googling for details all day
[17:33:05]<mig5>i do love April fools
[17:33:07]<acbot>ahahahahahahah
[17:33:10]<acbot>that is a good one
[17:33:21]<mig5>truly an awful song
[17:33:25]<acbot>network admin ftw
[17:33:29]<acbot>yer
[17:33:36]<acbot>i am familiar with her work
[17:33:37]<mig5>the best thing was it didn't redirect the url or anything
[17:33:40]<mig5>perfect, almost
[17:33:46]<acbot>yeh that is a very nice one
[17:33:48]<mig5>(it didn't handle embedded youtube videos)
[17:33:50]<mig5>ah, next year..
[17:34:00]<acbot>especially when the googles returned no results on the issue
[17:34:04]<mig5>yeep
[17:34:27]<mig5>last year i did the Blurrynet
[17:34:37]<mig5>http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html
[17:36:11]<acbot>loool
[17:36:14]<acbot>that is a good one
[17:36:23]<acbot>fucking with ppls networks is a sure fire win
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[20:15:49]<omega8cc>Help Barracuda to move from GitHub to Drupal.org - add your review (not just - I like it!) to our application - http://bit.ly/gDCKEV
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[21:58:08]<darthsteven>I wrote a service and got it to save data in the site context!
[21:58:14]<darthsteven>I'm so pleased with myself
[21:58:17]<mig5>holy shitballs
[21:58:22]<mig5>how did you do it!
[21:58:32]<mig5>oh a new service?
[21:58:34]<darthsteven>I shall document it this evening...
[21:58:48]<darthsteven>(which is about 7 hours away for me)
[21:58:49]<mig5>i thought you meant you got arbitrary data to be saved to the context of an existing service
[21:58:53]<mig5>which is impossible in fact I think
[21:58:54]<mig5>:)
[21:58:57]<darthsteven>no you can't do that
[21:59:01]<darthsteven>yeah, new service
[21:59:06]<mig5>nice
[22:00:16]<darthsteven>Aegir could come with a 'random data' service allowing people to just send stuff to a service that did all the heavy lifting...
[22:00:32]<mig5>could be interesting...
[22:00:35]<mig5>trying to think of use cases
[22:01:11]<darthsteven>I just had to learn how services and context interact to send a simple variable from the frontend to the backend
[22:01:16]<mig5>maybe something like 'wrap this stuff up and put it in git, send to github' service :)
[22:01:21]<mig5>'generate puppet manifests for this' :)
[22:01:39]<darthsteven>so anyone who wants to do that will need a service at the moment
[22:01:50]<darthsteven>which is major pain
[22:02:48]<darthsteven>anyway, I'm happy :)
[22:02:54]<mig5>great stuff dude
[22:02:56]<darthsteven>how are you mig5?
[22:03:09]<mig5>not bad, headache and a busted back
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[22:03:12]<mig5>hooray for weekend
[22:03:17]<darthsteven>indeed
[22:03:29]<mig5>you have overtaken me in understanding aegir I think: i'm glad!
[22:03:37]<mig5>i will be bullying you to commit stuff soon ;)
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[22:03:52]<darthsteven>though apparently I like to spend my Friday nights documenting Aegir
[22:04:14]<darthsteven>I pestered anarcat for commit access, to work on the API docs
[22:04:17]<mig5>yes - that's how i know i was right in telling anarcat we should get you on board :)
[22:04:20]<mig5>snap
[22:04:30]<mig5>once it becomes an unhealthy habit to work on aegir, you're one of us!!
[22:04:32]<mig5>mwooohahah
[22:04:36]<darthsteven>hehe
[22:04:47]<mig5>think i just heard skynet nod appreciatively
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[22:06:44]<omega8cc>mig5: thanks for the RT!
[22:07:16]<darthsteven>still not got my head around context and services yet, but getting to the stage where I know what hooks/methods to implement, and I have a basic grasp of what is going on
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[22:07:23]<skwashd>mig5, skynet was funny ... better than v1.0 gold is released and download link was a rickroll
[22:07:38]<skwashd>omega8cc, i will try to review it later tonight
[22:08:00]<mig5>omega8cc: i started writing a review, it's a real tricky one
[22:08:17]<omega8cc>skwashd: thanks!
[22:08:18]<mig5>i think the rules are a bit too tight for barracuda and so an exception should be made - on the other hand, i can see their point too
[22:08:29]<mig5>there's nothing 'tangible' for them to look at really
[22:08:34]<omega8cc>mig5: yeah
[22:08:42]<mig5>i was going to write that if we were applying for aegir now, we would be in the same position
[22:08:46]<mig5>except that we aren't
[22:08:50]<mig5>we are still just a module and a profile
[22:08:56]<mig5>so yours is special again
[22:09:00]<omega8cc>or Drush!
[22:09:05]<mig5>yeah
[22:09:08]<omega8cc>Drush is what?
[22:09:11]<omega8cc>yeah
[22:09:27]<mig5>nonetheless i want it to go through, because i want to collaborate properly with you on aegir / vice versa especially
[22:09:48]<skwashd>there is also drubuntu(?) as a project or is it only on g.d.o?
[22:09:51]<mig5>i want to be sharing remotes and branches and not throwing patches around
[22:09:58]<mig5>yeah i forgot about that one
[22:10:30]<omega8cc>mig5: also, there is an old thread about adding "other" category for projects, they should finally add it, imo
[22:11:09]<omega8cc>especially after migration to git
[22:11:16]<mig5>http://drupal.org/project/drubuntu
[22:11:45]<omega8cc>right, perfect example
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[22:14:48]<mig5>omega8cc: does your barracuda code actually *contain* a copy of aegir or does it just fetch it from scripts
[22:15:02]<mig5>and what else does it contain / fetch from scripts, i.e xdrago, monitoring tools etc
[22:15:20]<mig5>is it really mainly a collection of scripts that fetch from elsewhere?
[22:15:31]<omega8cc>mig5: no, it works as a big wrapper around standard Aegir install.sh
[22:16:09]<omega8cc>then Octopus can add platforms and feature to modify some stuff in the UI
[22:16:33]<omega8cc>but Barracuda is a simply Aegir install.sh for dummies
[22:18:39]<omega8cc>it even invokes install.sh directly to install Aegir, but it fetches provision and hostmaster from my repo, to include also some stuff often waiting to be included in the Aegir head
[22:19:20]<mig5>ooh you'll have fun with that: antoine just deleted the install.sh from provision (again :) )
[22:19:42]<omega8cc>mig5: also, all other stuff (like xdrago) is included in the repo
[22:20:06]<omega8cc>I have my own copy! lol
[22:20:11]<mig5>oh - before i forget, and offtopic: you might want to look at http://drupal.org/node/1108810
[22:20:15]<mig5>i'm not sure for nginx
[22:20:25]<mig5>but we needed to do a Deny on the 'private' dir for drupal7 sites
[22:20:33]<mig5>you might need something similar in nginx if you haven't got one already
[22:20:52]<omega8cc>I have it done months ago in Nginx
[22:20:55]<mig5>due to our configuration we were ignoring the .htaccess that drupal 7 drops in the private/files dir
[22:20:58]<mig5>ah ok
[22:21:11]<omega8cc>rc3 includes some related fix
[22:21:39]<omega8cc>as I managed to break it during re-ordering of rewrite rules before
[22:22:16]<omega8cc>it was http://drupalcode.org/sandbox/omega8cc/1111100.git/commit/b01c498
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[22:22:57]<mig5>ah
[22:23:04]<mig5>did we commit that into the mainline?
[22:23:16]<mig5>maybe part of your bulk patches?
[22:23:45]<omega8cc>yes, it was commited
[22:24:03]<omega8cc>http://drupal.org/node/1042312#comment-4283460
[22:26:41]<joestewart>mig5++, well played :)
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[22:27:44]<mig5>thanks :)
[22:27:46]<Vertice>nice on guys
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[22:32:47]<omega8cc>mig5: and the first thing - I discovered it reading mailing list inbox great! :)
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[22:32:52]<omega8cc>Vertice: :)
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[22:44:01]<mig5>darthsteven: you have commit access to provision and hostmaster now :)
[22:44:15]<darthsteven>mig5: Yey! Thank you very much
[22:44:24]<mig5>thank YOU!
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[22:50:57]<sevenwonders>hello :)
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[23:00:35]<sevenwonders>is it possible to rewrite the urls that sites/all/modules or sites/all/themes using hook_url_outbound_alter? or is there a better way to clean up the long urls from multisites?
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[23:06:37]<darthsteven>sevenwonders: Sorry, what do you mean?
[23:08:18]<sevenwonders>darthsteven: images, css, modules, themes etc all show a url of sites/all/modules or sites/blahblah.com/themes etc
[23:09:22]<sevenwonders>how to cut it down to cleaner one?
[23:09:41]<darthsteven>sevenwonders: Is it a real problem or just a cosmetic one?
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[23:13:45]<sevenwonders>darthsteven: good question :) would just feel more comfortable with a url http://example.com/sites/all/themes/mytheme/images/background.jpg served as example.com/images/background.jpg
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[23:15:18]<darthsteven>sevenwonders: there are ways that you could do it, but it's not really worth it for those few bytes of request/response is it?
[23:18:01]<sevenwonders>darthsteven: you are probably right but its a shame because some modules output ridiculously long urls
[23:18:40]<darthsteven>sevenwonders: Sure, but why do you care? You don't have to handle the URLs yourself
[23:18:45]<joestewart>sevenwonders: a partial solution is in aegir for apache ( /files in urls ) - http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/blob/51117a7386461748d50fa58...
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[23:19:44]<StepanKuzmin>Hi everyone!
[23:20:01]<StepanKuzmin>?help
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[23:20:38]<sevenwonders>joestewart: thanks. will take a look into it
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[23:22:33]<joestewart>There is also a similar clause in the nginx config too.
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[23:42:55]<omega8cc>http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/blob/51117a7386461748d50fa58...
[23:43:17]<omega8cc>sevenwonders ^^
[23:44:26]<omega8cc>sevenwonders: just an example on how you could use it for some files
[23:44:57]<sevenwonders>omega8cc: thx. I will check out the apache one first. ive not tried nginx yet :)
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[23:46:29]<omega8cc>sevenwonders: rewrite rule is a rewrite rule, just adapt it to the Apache style etc
[23:47:11]<sevenwonders>omega8cc: aha, ok dokey. many thx then
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[00:50:14]<lukus>hi omega8cc - i'm trying to revisit optimisation of my server.. I have 768mb of ram, and I've found that mysql might be slowing things down. I ran mysqltuner and it suggested that I reduce my memory footpring "[!!] Maximum possible memory usage: 1.7G (233% of installed RAM)"
[00:50:39]<lukus>I was wondering if you keep examples of various my.cnf configurations in yr github?
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[01:03:28]<omega8cc>lukus: we leave this low level system tuning (like my.cnf tuning) for the server admins, as it is something you should tune exactly to your real use, databases size, sites configuration etc etc, while the BOND script is (so far) only for tuning some key values to make it easier to switch the system into debug mode etc, however there are ideas to expand its features
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[01:09:44]<szczym_>omega8cc: is there any voddo magic with gzip.js files on Barracuda ? On platform Prosepoint 0.37 the visual editor is gone. i checked with static PP platform and its gone to. Too me is seems like server is refusing to send the file: http://www.prosepoint.org/profiles/prosepoint/modules/prosepoint/prosepo... on my platform its like thet: http://organ.crk.wroclaw.pl/profiles/prosepoint/modules
[01:09:44]<szczym_>/prosepoint/prosepoint_editor/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/tiny_mce_gzip.js
[01:11:51]* szczym_ things its kinda wired bug and should be reported as an issue and not irc but wondering about possybylites ...
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[01:18:19]<lukus>omega8cc, thx for the advice - it's about time I grokked this stuff... I'll do some research
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[01:21:42]<omega8cc>szczym_: yeah, there is an issue queue, and there are some waiting requests I plan to answer maybe later tonight
[01:22:03]<szczym_>thank you very ;)
[01:22:41]<omega8cc>lukus: np
[01:22:56]<omega8cc>szczym_: :)
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[01:23:09]<szczym_>lol
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[01:24:06]<omega8cc>however nothing is guaranteed to be true, today
[01:24:26]<bgm>anarcat: mig5: http://skynet.kernel.org/
[01:24:35]<szczym_>oh yes, skynet is upon us indeed
[01:25:15]<bgm>:)
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[02:45:45]<gchaix>I love the asterisked truths. Nicely done.
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[03:54:43]<dob_>strange issues with nginx and drupal. After updating to the latest rc some aliases are not parsed anymore. Any ideas?
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[04:01:56]<dob_>think it's a 404 error
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[04:14:12]<dob_>will i have to replace the nginx_simple_config if upgrading to a newer release?
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[04:19:40]<dob_>hello???
[04:19:41]<hefring>ni hao
[04:20:10]<dob_>will i have to replace the nginx_simple_config if upgrading to a newer release?
[04:20:29]<anarcat>bgm: by god they copied us! :)
[04:21:11]<dob_>or will that be done by hostmaster install? I did hostmaster install, but my nginx_simple_config differs from the version in .drush/provision/http/nginx
[04:28:41]<dob_>cp -R ~/.drush/provision/http/nginx/ ~/config/includes
[04:28:44]<dob_>did the job for me
[04:29:00]<dob_>why wasn't this updated to the newest version.
[04:29:09]<dob_>Will i have to check something else?
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[04:36:00]<dob_>?
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[04:40:01]<omega8cc>hefring: tell dob_: The Aegir SkyNet magic will do that for you on next cron run (seriously!) as it needs to re-verify your hostmaster to update config files and keep you SkyNet connected
[04:40:02]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when dob_ is around.
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[05:08:37]<that0n3guy>Hey all, any one have any amazon EC2 experience? I'm trying to set the fqdn and hostname -f always gives me the internal address
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[05:39:44]<darthsteven>am I okay to create a 'dev-documentation' branch in hostmaster?
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[07:13:28]<darthsteven>well, I'm pushing anyway...
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[07:51:22]<anarcat>darthsteven: yes you are
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[07:55:46]<darthsteven>anarcat: already done :)
[07:55:51]<anarcat>good :)
[07:55:55]<anarcat>you have commit access now?
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[07:57:01]<darthsteven>I do indeed
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[08:00:45]<darthsteven>is there a naming convention for the branches?
[08:01:13]<anarcat>yesa
[08:01:20]<anarcat>dev-something-#number
[08:01:32]<anarcat>dev-something-1234 even
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