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| [10:58:30] | <LloydPearsonIV> | anyone have any experience with scaling aegir horizontally via cloud computing? |
| [10:58:30] | <hefring> | LloydPearsonIV: 1 week 2 days ago <omega8cc> tell LloydPearsonIV: could your create a page in the handbook to list modules causing issues with Aegir, starting it with your DS issue? Thanks! |
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| [11:30:43] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | welcome back omegga8cc |
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| [12:19:23] | <LloydPearsonIV> | anyone have any experience with scaling aegir horizontally via cloud computing? |
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| [14:22:06] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | [any planned commits to barracuda in the next 3 hours? I am getting redy to do a clean install now |
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| [14:54:46] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | when doing a database backup,. do you think it would be ok to exclude the data from all cache_ prefix database tables? |
| [14:55:16] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | like cache_views_data ? |
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| [15:17:07] | <yuracagran> | Since 2-3 days community.aegirproject.org is responding very slow. I have no clue for reason but http://pastebin.com/31ZWkS7M (headers, ping, traceroute) |
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| [15:24:20] | <mig5> | loads pretty fast for me, and my rtt is slower than yours. |
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| [18:50:56] | <StepanKuzmin> | Hi, all! |
| [18:51:36] | <StepanKuzmin> | Is there any tutorial how to set up ægir with ubercart (uc_hosting)? |
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| [19:36:33] | <zelfje> | StepanKuzmin: there is none such tutorial |
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| [20:08:29] | <AntiNSA-AFK> | thank you omegga8cc the newest version with commits is smoking. I hope it remains quick after a week |
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| [20:18:09] | <dob_> | i need some help with my nginx config |
| [20:18:09] | <hefring> | dob_: 2 days 16 hours ago <omega8cc> tell dob_: The Aegir SkyNet magic will do that for you on next cron run (seriously!) as it needs to re-verify your hostmaster to update config files and keep you SkyNet connected |
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| [20:52:41] | <dob_> | tell omega8cc: Did not work for me. I get the following error when doing hostmaster migrate http://pastebin.com/wS2sSiMD |
| [20:54:58] | <omega8cc> | dob_: have you opened an issue on GitHub maybe? |
| [20:55:35] | <dob_> | not yet. i will do that! Just copied the files manually for now. |
| [20:57:45] | <omega8cc> | dob_: ok, please also see bug submission guidelines in the readme |
| [20:58:48] | <szczym> | omega8cc will you be around today late evening ? im planing to upgrade baracuda from stable to latest stable and maybe i will have a question or 2 :D |
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| [21:03:32] | <szczym> | but i do hope, i will not ;) |
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| [21:05:31] | <omega8cc> | szczym: don't know, maybe, but there will be never stable today |
| [21:05:39] | <omega8cc> | doh |
| [21:05:42] | <omega8cc> | newer |
| [21:05:50] | <szczym> | never for ever |
| [21:06:00] | * szczym like ii |
| [21:06:03] | <omega8cc> | typing while walking |
| [21:06:04] | * szczym like it |
| [21:06:45] | <szczym> | yeah, i will upgrade to current stable, no problem |
| [21:07:10] | <szczym> | drush 3 is kinda old shool but its ok |
| [21:07:38] | <omega8cc> | so wait for boat-2 |
| [21:12:39] | <omega8cc> | it has drush 4.4 and drush make 2.2 |
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| [22:31:49] | <Iztok> | hi folks |
| [22:32:28] | <Iztok> | does anyone have some resource on migrating Drupal 7 site from aegir to stand alone instalation? |
| [22:39:26] | <szczym> | iztok: just download backup, unpack and load the database |
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| [22:43:27] | <skwashd> | Iztok, hey |
| [22:43:42] | <skwashd> | Iztok, has there been any more progress on drupalcamp balkans? |
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| [22:54:28] | <moshe_work> | ping anarcat, mig5 |
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| [23:14:10] | <Iztok> | skwashd: I am not sure anut the camp, I guess not much |
| [23:16:27] | <Iztok> | szczym: I had some trouble with theme / module files, can I put them to sites/all at all? |
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| [23:29:07] | <szczym> | iztok: from aegir sites/domian.org to non aegir sites/all ? yes, generally no problem but better keep dir structure like on aegir |
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| [23:50:32] | <anarcat> | moshe_work: pong |
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| [23:51:31] | <moshe_work> | hi anarcat. fyi, we are about to remove support for drupal5 in drush5. just wanted to check in with you. any concerns? i guess this would affect your 2.x branch |
| [23:51:47] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [23:51:52] | <anarcat> | we haven't opened the 2.x branch just yet |
| [23:52:01] | <anarcat> | why are we removing d5 support? |
| [23:52:12] | <moshe_work> | cuz noone will test it |
| [23:52:41] | <moshe_work> | we are adding d8 support |
| [23:52:55] | <moshe_work> | 3 drupal versions is enough of a burden IMO |
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| [00:08:29] | <anarcat> | http://drupal.org/node/1075002#comment-4197244 |
| [00:08:45] | <anarcat> | where the hero teaches the use of db_rewrite_sql() and the crowd roars in awe |
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| [00:09:29] | <siliconmeadow> | I have a site with 50k nodes and special privs set up via TAC - I can't upgrade from alpha8 because it keep dying while doing a verify |
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| [00:10:07] | <siliconmeadow> | yeah, the db_rewrite_sql() is new to me |
| [00:10:22] | <anarcat> | not me |
| [00:10:31] | <anarcat> | maybe i need to reread it again to get it |
| [00:10:35] | <siliconmeadow> | anarcat: i was being sarcastic |
| [00:10:35] | <anarcat> | anyways |
| [00:10:39] | <anarcat> | ah |
| [00:10:44] | <siliconmeadow> | :-) |
| [00:10:45] | * anarcat having trouble :P |
| [00:10:50] | <anarcat> | so anyways |
| [00:10:57] | <anarcat> | i don't know what TAC is |
| [00:11:08] | <anarcat> | maybe you can open an issue with the task log? |
| [00:11:09] | <siliconmeadow> | oh, sorry taxonomy access control |
| [00:11:15] | <anarcat> | ok |
| [00:11:31] | <anarcat> | "I would check taxonomy_access and node_access modules to see if they do user_access() checks or node_access() checks without an explicit uid. Checking against the running user doesn't make sense, because if you run as UID 1, then you get access to everything anyways. |
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| [00:11:40] | <anarcat> | eugen was having problems with that module too |
| [00:11:43] | <anarcat> | i would start there |
| [00:12:10] | <anarcat> | he was having problems *before* i "fixed" things... |
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| [00:34:50] | <siliconmeadow> | anarcat: thanks again - one for me to work on the train home tonight |
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| [00:59:41] | <d1b1[1]> | morning, does anyone know of any documentation on how to use the new 'Web Cluster' option for aegir server nodes? |
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| [01:31:01] | <siliconmeadow> | what a shame I missed this on Friday: http://community.aegirproject.org/skynet |
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| [02:06:55] | <joestewart|afk> | d1b1[1]: no I haven't found any documentation or examples for web cluster. It also seems broken now. For example see issue #1016890 |
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| [02:12:26] | <d1b1[1]> | joesteward - thanks, in general I think I follow the feature, but it would be nice to find some context. I am hoping this feature just combines existing servers into a 'web cluster'. anyone? |
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| [02:18:19] | <kepford> | Upgraded from alpha15 to rc3 with the script. Flawless. THANK YOU ALL! |
| [02:18:19] | <anarcat> | awesome :) |
| [02:18:19] | <anarcat> | hopefully i'll hear the same with the debian package shortly :) |
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| [02:22:12] | <kepford> | Ubuntu 10.04 btw |
| [02:24:22] | <kepford> | Hopefully I'll be doing another Aegir install in a few weeks. This time on Linode. |
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| [02:27:22] | <anarcat> | kepford: hopefully you'll test the debian package ;) |
| [02:28:24] | <kepford> | For sure anarcat |
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| [03:53:23] | <ryanarmstrong> | Hey I just migrated some sites from one platform to another, and now when I go to their homepage, I get the install.php page asking me to install Drupal. The databases are intact, as are all the files. Any ideas? |
| [04:02:04] | <amateescu> | ryanarmstrong: missing settings.php? |
| [04:20:26] | <dcox1> | Can someone help me with an upgrade question. I am currently running aegir 0.4 alpha7 and want to upgrade to RC3 in the version specific notes it says "If you are upgrading from 0.4 releases between alpha8 and (including) alpha14, you will need to rename your conf.d directory to post.d in Apache and pre.d in Nginx. Example, in Apache::" would I need to do this also? |
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| [04:46:38] | <omega8cc> | ryanarmstrong: force web server restart maybe, or check if the path to the site root has been updated in the vhost |
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| [04:48:51] | <ryanarmstrong> | omega8cc: Yea turns out it was an issue with a platform. I had accidently deleted it from the terminal, which then meant I couldn't delete it from the Aegir frontend without going to the full content listing page and deleting it that way, but that just deleted the node, and not the platform file in platform.d. That then prevented apache from restarting when i did the migrate. So I just deleted the platform file manually, |
| [04:49:06] | <ryanarmstrong> | Lesson learned: always always always delete platforms from the Aegir frontend :) |
| [04:49:44] | <ryanarmstrong> | btw thanks for the pointers regarding using Barracuda that you left in a message for me. I ended up getting barracuda to work and install Aegir properly |
| [04:50:23] | <omega8cc> | ryanarmstrong: nice! |
| [04:50:29] | <ryanarmstrong> | I have to say, I'm a big fan of Barracuda lol |
| [04:50:51] | <omega8cc> | and yes, let Aegir do the work for you |
| [04:50:57] | <ryanarmstrong> | I'm so used to doing the work myself I guess lol |
| [04:50:57] | <omega8cc> | nice :) |
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| [04:52:28] | <ryanarmstrong> | If you don't mind, I do have a couple loose ends to tie up. I've got Aegir up and running, and I made a platform, which is just a drupal 7 install with some modules, but when I go to create a site, when I choose the profiles minimal or standard, it tells me there are no platforms for that profile |
| [04:52:35] | <ryanarmstrong> | And I now see a new one called Testing, and if I select that I can see my platform |
| [04:53:21] | <ryanarmstrong> | Never had Aegir do that before, and I can't figure out why I can't choose my platform under standard or minimal |
| [04:53:23] | <omega8cc> | ryanarmstrong: is it on standard or Barracuda install? |
| [04:53:31] | <ryanarmstrong> | I confirmed that the profiles standard and minimal are in the profiles folder |
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| [04:53:50] | <ryanarmstrong> | This server was made via Barracuda |
| [04:54:22] | <omega8cc> | what version of Barracuda and what version of d7 (stable?) |
| [04:57:00] | <ryanarmstrong> | i just used: wget -q -U iCab http://files.aegir.cc/versions/BARRACUDA.sh.txt |
| [04:57:00] | <ryanarmstrong> | To get the bash script |
| [04:57:05] | <ryanarmstrong> | And it's regular old 7.0 stable |
| [04:57:26] | <ryanarmstrong> | I used drush to grab Drupal |
| [04:57:40] | <omega8cc> | hmm, I always encourage people to use Octcopus and get the work done, but yeah, make sure you have also some Pressflow 6 platform or comment out in your global.inc the line with $conf['hosting_ignore_default_profiles'] = 1; |
| [04:57:41] | <ryanarmstrong> | Oh yea that's another thing, i see Pressflow as a profile |
| [04:57:48] | <omega8cc> | then make sure this option is disabled in /admin/hosting/settings |
| [04:58:22] | <omega8cc> | or better yet, just use Octopus with autopilot turned on ;) |
| [04:58:52] | <ryanarmstrong> | Ok, perhaps I'll do that. This is just on a test server, so it's no big deal to just wipe it and start again |
| [04:59:13] | <omega8cc> | ok, bbl, family supper! |
| [04:59:19] | <ryanarmstrong> | Enjoy! |
| [04:59:23] | <ryanarmstrong> | Thanks for the help! |
| [04:59:25] | <omega8cc> | Thanks |
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| [05:27:20] | <shrop> | I noticed the manual Aegir install instructions changed a bit. Is it ok to still use install.sh from provision after the other requirements are completed? ref link: http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/blob/a3f7956370941f12aba8426... |
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| [05:39:41] | <anarcat> | shrop: it's "okay" but install.sh is gone so you're better off installing drush manually and running drush dl provision + drush hostmaster-install |
| [05:39:41] | <anarcat> | the install docs should reflect that |
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| [05:53:59] | <shrop> | anarcat: gotcha.. thanks man. I will give that a go on my next box. Had to get one up for testing today quickly. I was more familiar with install.sh :) |
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| [05:56:32] | <anarcat> | shrop: install.sh is really just: install drush, provision then drush hostmaster-install |
| [05:56:32] | <anarcat> | so we trashed it |
| [05:56:32] | <anarcat> | shrop: also, i would love more testing on the debian packages |
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| [05:58:15] | <shrop> | anarcat: You got it on testing the deb packages. That is something I can do. |
| [05:58:30] | <shrop> | Just so happens I was talking to @kepford on twitter about that today. |
| [05:58:54] | <shrop> | I will make a test vm and then give apt-get a go with drush 4.4 and apt-get install aegir |
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| [07:11:11] | <IztokS> | hi folks, I moved aegir site to standalone instalation... |
| [07:11:29] | <IztokS> | how can I tell Drupal that all the modules are now in site/all ? |
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| [07:28:13] | <ryanarmstrong> | The best way is to disable, then reenable |
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| [07:28:47] | <ryanarmstrong> | You should disable all modules before moving a site for this very reason |
| [07:29:00] | <ryanarmstrong> | or disable all modules who's location is going to move |
| [07:29:10] | <ryanarmstrong> | @IztokS |
| [07:29:58] | <IztokS> | ryanarmstrong: ok, sound like smart, but will this affect anything? |
| [07:30:11] | <IztokS> | *smart idea |
| [07:30:43] | <joestewart|afk> | IztokS: can you go to /admin/build/modules ? Drupal will update the system table |
| [07:30:53] | <ryanarmstrong> | Nah disabling the module won't do anything bad, but anything that module made will be "deactivated" until you turn the module back on |
| [07:30:58] | <ryanarmstrong> | But all of your data will be there |
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| [07:31:29] | <anarcat> | joestewart: hey - are you working on the site symlink stuff? |
| [07:31:32] | <ryanarmstrong> | So disable any modules whose code has moved, then I would clear all caches just to be safe, and re-enable |
| [07:31:39] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: you think i should push this or fixing client renames? http://drupal.org/node/1115960 |
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| [07:32:16] | <joestewart> | anarcat: doesn't look like I have any time right now, if you want to clean it up right. |
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| [07:32:30] | <anarcat> | gotcha |
| [07:33:09] | <anarcat> | !pi pause |
| [07:33:10] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: wrong channel |
| [07:33:11] | <IztokS> | ryanarmstrong: ok, great, tnx man! I was also very confused about the settings.php file which is "wierd" in aegir :) so I just copied the default settings and changed the mysql info, is that good enough? |
| [07:33:54] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: I didn't think it was a priority, just an idea after seeing comments from frustrated devs |
| [07:34:07] | <ryanarmstrong> | Yea that should be fine. Aegir does some things like removing the mysql info and storing it in a more secure location |
| [07:34:15] | <ryanarmstrong> | Make sure to backup to be safe though |
| [07:34:48] | <IztokS> | ryanarmstrong: any fast way to disable all modules? with drush? |
| [07:34:53] | <ryanarmstrong> | Drush |
| [07:34:55] | <ryanarmstrong> | yea, for sure |
| [07:35:04] | <IztokS> | drush dis * :? ? |
| [07:35:10] | <IztokS> | :) |
| [07:35:10] | <ryanarmstrong> | Drush is an invaluable Drupal tool |
| [07:35:24] | <ryanarmstrong> | I don't remember the command off hand |
| [07:35:31] | <ryanarmstrong> | but if you type drush help it'll list them all |
| [07:35:42] | <IztokS> | I am just regular user of it, its great though! |
| [07:35:58] | <ryanarmstrong> | It keeps getting better and better the more you use it :) |
| [07:36:37] | <IztokS> | ok thanks ryanarmstrong , ping me if you need design advices ;) |
| [07:37:11] | <joestewart> | anarcat: For curiosities sake can you clarify why the synlinks should be created in post_provision_install and verify rather than in one place when the vhosts are being written? |
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| [07:40:46] | <joestewart> | anarcat: nevermind. I see for one reason it is in an apache specific hook. |
| [07:48:19] | <bgm> | what's the aegir equivalent of d()->site, but for the directory of sites/example.org/ ? or do i just assume it is d()->site . '/sites/' . $uri ? |
| [07:48:38] | * bgm needs an "aegir dev cheat sheet" :) |
| [07:49:06] | <mig5> | i thought there was a d()->site_path |
| [07:50:27] | <bgm> | mig5: ah, sounds right, i'll try, thanks :) |
| [07:50:51] | <bgm> | i'll start a doc page in the doc, if that's ok |
| [07:53:07] | <mig5> | sure |
| [07:55:46] | <anarcat> | joestewart: vhost_config() is a hook designed to inject stuff in the vhost, it may not be called when you think it will be (for example if we implement caching) |
| [07:55:53] | <anarcat> | or write confs only when they change |
| [07:56:29] | <anarcat> | bgm: i think this should be in the code somewhere, so api.aegirproject.org, but feel free to document in the c.a.o wiki too |
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| [08:05:00] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: i figured it was a low hanging fruit |
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| [08:05:32] | <anarcat> | joestewart: i'm eager to get this in, i wonder if you could reroll the patch or at least test one i could do for the sites stuff? |
| [08:06:26] | <ergonlogic> | must... resist... the urge to pun.. |
| [08:07:09] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: ok, I'm glad joestewart's had already worked on it |
| [08:08:18] | <joestewart> | I should be able to test, my day is almost over today though. I won't be able to reroll and you would probably need to correct my efforts too :) |
| [08:10:17] | <joestewart> | ergonlogic: I like the aegir SAAS stuff. I wouldn't have thought that is what it did from the name. cmcintosh was working on something similar. too. I asked anarcat about this type of thing at Drupalcon. I have a need for an additional set of users. More than just uid 2. |
| [08:11:09] | <ergonlogic> | joestewart: I may change the name... any suggestions? |
| [08:12:07] | <ergonlogic> | joestewart: I'll look at adding some hooks to make that easier |
| [08:13:00] | <ergonlogic> | joestewart: you need to add the users through aegir? that is, you don't have a custom profile? |
| [08:13:03] | <joestewart> | I don't know if it is a complication or not but there are other install profiles/distributions that add users like Watershednow and Drupal developer profile. The Watershed Now one had an conflict with aegir adding the user 1 with the name admin. - http://drupal.org/node/1019876 |
| [08:15:49] | <joestewart> | ergonlogic: way cool. no suggestions on names right now. yes we have custom profiles that handle those. But need it for installs of distributions that have profiles of their own. |
| [08:16:40] | <ergonlogic> | joestewart: maybe you need something more akin to "openid simple sign-on" or "bakery" |
| [08:17:48] | <joestewart> | yes, possibly for other reasons too we might move that way. |
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| [08:18:53] | <ergonlogic> | joestewart: you may want to check out https://github.com/developmentseed/openid_sso |
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| [08:21:20] | <joestewart> | ergonlogic: thanks, I had barely looked at it previously. I had not liked my own experience using OpenID, but like the idea of "simple sign-on". Also, seen http://drupal.org/project/openid_selector ? |
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| [08:24:32] | <ergonlogic> | joestewart: for my part, I was exploring how to deploy a small network of sites for clients through Aegir, but provide some centralized way to manage a shared user base across them |
| [08:25:18] | <ergonlogic> | so like an Open Atrium, a ManagingNews, and an OpenEnterprise, or something similar |
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| [08:26:27] | <joestewart> | ah, mine is just common support and development personnel, then they will be separate user bases. |
| [08:26:31] | <ergonlogic> | I though that, since you can create users without uid1 on an open atrium, install https://github.com/developmentseed/openid_provider_sso on it, then the client (openid_sso) on each of the others |
| [08:26:36] | <anarcat> | hehe |
| [08:26:42] | <bgm> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/537 - short cheat sheet, if anyone feels like contributing their dev FAQs |
| [08:26:43] | <anarcat> | i can spell "eager" anymore :P |
| [08:27:00] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic / darthsteven : http://community.aegirproject.org/node/537 |
| [08:27:48] | <anarcat> | so anyways |
| [08:27:55] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: i'll focus on the client stuff to see if joestewart can reroll his patch ;) |
| [08:27:59] | <anarcat> | then i'll pick it up... |
| [08:28:20] | <ergonlogic> | cool |
| [08:28:29] | <joestewart> | ergonlogic: I like your thinking on the OA and openid_sso. |
| [08:29:46] | <ergonlogic> | joestewart: it let's "managers" have a federated network of sites. |
| [08:30:07] | <ergonlogic> | joestewart: in your case though, you want to create accounts for your internal staff? |
| [08:30:29] | <joestewart> | I already use basic http auth from OA to a features server and gitweb |
| [08:30:54] | <joestewart> | so it kinda fits in. |
| [08:31:46] | <ergonlogic> | joestewart: check out http://drupal.org/node/461840 |
| [08:33:42] | <ergonlogic> | that's the long term solutions, it seems to me |
| [08:44:50] | <joestewart> | anarcat: Before I go, I'll bring up Eugen. on "wrong use of drush_backend_invoke" - http://drupal.org/node/1074414 it looks like the command line side of things work now. Is there a plan or wish to be able to toggle the working copy either inside the makefile or aegir/hosting? If I leave, I can check the backscroll later. |
| [08:45:02] | <joestewart> | gotta run now. |
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| [09:38:43] | <AntiNSA> | wow self healing commits are so cool |
| [09:39:34] | <AntiNSA> | can that git whihc upgrades the global.inc update teh self healing by itself, or is a full update/reinstall required? |
| [09:42:34] | <AntiNSA> | that should totally improve long term stability , right? |
| [09:43:00] | <AntiNSA> | wow please through me a git that can update that without a full reinstall, |
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