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| [10:30:35] | <anarcat> | joestewart|afk: yes - --working-copy is *supposed* to propagate from hostmaster-install/migrate down to drush_make |
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| [10:32:21] | <joestewart> | anarcat: so, no UI toggle and always use --working-copy? |
| [10:33:07] | <ergonlogic> | !seen cash_williams |
| [10:33:14] | <ergonlogic> | !seen cashwilliams |
| [10:33:20] | <ergonlogic> | hmm |
| [10:33:26] | <joestewart> | I liked the proposal to config in the makefile but if I remember correctly Dmitri didn't. |
| [10:34:24] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: iirc, cashwilliams was getting duplicate results from a drush script |
| [10:34:37] | <ergonlogic> | during the drupalcon sprint |
| [10:35:24] | <ergonlogic> | I'm seeing duplicate output from a drush command, but it could only be running once, asaict |
| [10:35:30] | <ergonlogic> | afaict |
| [10:37:54] | <anarcat> | joestewart: oh you mean for platforms created by aegir - dunno |
| [10:38:17] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: yes, it was cash |
| [10:38:59] | <joestewart> | yes, sorry that wasn't clear. |
| [10:41:09] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: were you using dd()? |
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| [10:44:51] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: dd()? wtf |
| [10:45:02] | <anarcat> | stepping away |
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| [18:54:02] | <darthsteven> | Just published this article: http://www.computerminds.co.uk/articles/storing-data-aegir |
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| [20:53:25] | <fiasco> | skwashd, are you aroung? |
| [20:53:28] | <fiasco> | around* |
| [20:53:46] | <skwashd> | fiasco, i'm nice and round :) |
| [20:53:55] | <fiasco> | I just tried to follow these instructions on Lucid: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/400 |
| [20:54:08] | <fiasco> | but I got this error: The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| [20:54:08] | <fiasco> | aegir: Depends: aegir-provision but it is not going to be installed |
| [20:54:08] | <fiasco> | Depends: aegir-hostmaster but it is not going to be installed |
| [20:54:15] | <fiasco> | sorry for the lack of pastebin |
| [20:54:33] | * skwashd looks while on phone ... gimme a bit |
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| [20:54:39] | <fiasco> | skwashd, hey, any chance you could shed some light? |
| [20:55:43] | <fiasco> | anarcat, maybe its you I should be asking |
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| [20:59:54] | <fiasco> | hmm, the packages seem to be there, but maybe there is some sort of dependency conflict |
| [21:00:23] | <fiasco> | I was hoping I could just install aegir and it would install apache, php, mysql etc |
| [21:01:47] | <skwashd> | fiasco, which version of debian are you using? |
| [21:01:57] | <fiasco> | skwashd, Ubuntu Lucid |
| [21:02:57] | <skwashd> | fiasco, that might be the problem - http://debian.koumbit.net/debian/ |
| [21:02:59] | <fiasco> | whats the difference between provision and hostmaster? |
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| [21:03:22] | <fiasco> | skwashd, there were claims (I forget where) that this would work on Ubuntu |
| [21:03:38] | <fiasco> | skwashd, if its dependancy issues, then maybe its not too bad |
| [21:04:31] | <fiasco> | skwashd, ok its working now. I had to install apache2 from lucid first |
| [21:04:38] | <skwashd> | ah |
| [21:04:55] | <fiasco> | skwashd, the backports I added to the sources were conflicting with the version aegir-provision was wanted |
| [21:05:01] | <skwashd> | fiasco, sorry mother in law on phone atm ... multitasking :) |
| [21:05:17] | <fiasco> | skwashd, nice work multitasking ;) |
| [21:05:26] | <fiasco> | bold talking to the mother in law and hanging in IRC |
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| [21:16:19] | <skwashd> | fiasco, :) |
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| [21:17:01] | <skwashd> | fiasco, hostmaster == backend | provision == frontend or the other way around |
| [21:17:35] | <fiasco> | skwashd, for a site to exist in aegir, must it be controlled by aegir? |
| [21:17:54] | <skwashd> | fiasco, yes, but you can import your existing sites |
| [21:19:59] | <fiasco> | skwashd, so for example, I have a site that is behind a firewall. If my company doesn't want to forget about it in terms of updating it etc. Does aegir apply? |
| [21:19:59] | <skwashd> | fiasco, you can use aegir with it |
| [21:19:59] | <fiasco> | skwashd, by 'with it' you mean..... |
| [21:19:59] | <skwashd> | fiasco, well you can have aegir manage that site |
| [21:20:03] | <skwashd> | but keep in mind aegir doesn't auto update your sites for you |
| [21:20:03] | <fiasco> | skwashd, but its behind a firewall |
| [21:20:15] | <skwashd> | fiasco, open port 22 :) |
| [21:20:37] | <fiasco> | skwashd, so drush+ssh? |
| [21:20:47] | <skwashd> | fiasco, also aegir can be a bit dodgy over remote links |
| [21:21:09] | <skwashd> | fiasco, aegir uses rsync and drush over ssh |
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| [21:22:11] | <fiasco> | skwashd, interesting |
| [21:22:33] | <skwashd> | fiasco, once you get the hang of it, aegir is pretty sweet, eh bro :) |
| [21:22:40] | <fiasco> | lol |
| [21:23:16] | <skwashd> | fiasco, if you need me to some to WLG and run some aegir training let me know :) |
| [21:23:27] | <skwashd> | come to WLG* |
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| [21:24:00] | <fiasco> | skwashd, I'm a fast learning |
| [21:24:25] | <skwashd> | fiasco, i am a fast teacher |
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| [21:24:58] | <fiasco> | skwashd, :) |
| [21:25:50] | <skwashd> | fiasco, so you back in nz? |
| [21:25:59] | <fiasco> | skwashd, I got errors :( http://paste.dollyfish.net.nz/f1483b |
| [21:26:07] | <fiasco> | skwashd, yup I got back thankfully |
| [21:26:24] | <fiasco> | not before having a bit of fun in San Fran with chapter three |
| [21:26:42] | <skwashd> | ah cool |
| [21:26:59] | <skwashd> | shall i start some new role rumours? |
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| [21:27:57] | <skwashd> | fiasco, something is missing to create the /var/aegir dir me thinks |
| [21:28:01] | <skwashd> | the debs are the work of anarcat |
| [21:28:07] | <skwashd> | fiasco, blame him |
| [21:28:16] | <skwashd> | the standard install instructions work pretty well |
| [21:29:52] | <fiasco> | skwashd, looks like config dir doesn't exist |
| [21:29:59] | <skwashd> | fiasco, yeah was about to say that |
| [21:30:05] | <skwashd> | mkdir /var/aegir/config |
| [21:30:08] | <skwashd> | and try again |
| [21:30:30] | <fiasco> | skwashd, beat ya to it ;) |
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| [21:30:36] | <fiasco> | <-- fast learner |
| [21:31:13] | <skwashd> | something is broken in the control file |
| [21:31:20] | <skwashd> | or a script it calls |
| [21:31:43] | <skwashd> | if the file was defined as a config file it would just install it and handle the path creation |
| [21:32:02] | <skwashd> | </sounding-like-i-know-what-i-am-talking-about> |
| [21:32:39] | <fiasco> | skwashd, lack of config dir likely means it needs to be defined in the 'dirs' file of the debian build |
| [21:33:05] | <fiasco> | skwashd, also, need some check to assert mod rewrite is enabled otherwise that cause failures too |
| [21:33:09] | <skwashd> | fiasco, or isn't there one for defining config files? |
| [21:33:40] | <fiasco> | skwashd, there are conventions for config files |
| [21:33:46] | <fiasco> | skwashd, usually /etc/default |
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| [21:34:15] | <skwashd> | fiasco, "a2enmod rewrite; echo $?" returns 0 even if the mod is enabled already |
| [21:34:41] | <fiasco> | skwashd, it creates a symlink in mods-enabled |
| [21:34:46] | <fiasco> | skwashd, so just check for that |
| [21:34:51] | <skwashd> | i know |
| [21:34:54] | <skwashd> | good point |
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| [21:35:58] | <skwashd> | fiasco, if you want to review more packaging check out http://davehall.com.au/blog/dave/2011/04/02/fixing-zimbras-broken-debs |
| [21:36:24] | <fiasco> | looks like git-core needs to be made a dependency too |
| [21:36:36] | <skwashd> | yep |
| [21:36:45] | <skwashd> | and probably a bunch of php modules |
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| [21:37:55] | <fiasco> | for the d.o testbots we use puppet to configure a server |
| [21:38:03] | <fiasco> | that works really well |
| [21:38:27] | <fiasco> | skwashd, it means you only need to install puppet and the server does the rest |
| [21:39:05] | <skwashd> | fiasco, is all the puppet stuff for the bots in a public repo? |
| [21:39:22] | <fiasco> | skwashd, I think so. I'll try find it |
| [21:39:45] | <skwashd> | fiasco, danke |
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| [21:40:26] | <fiasco> | skwashd, http://drupal.org/project/drupaltestbot-puppet <-- thats one |
| [21:40:34] | <skwashd> | merci |
| [21:41:58] | <fiasco> | There is a server puppet repo and a client one |
| [21:42:05] | <fiasco> | just can't find the other one |
| [21:42:58] | <fiasco> | maybe that is it |
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| [21:43:22] | <skwashd> | fiasco, i'll pick through it once i work out why d7 doesn't like my hook_schema/hook_install |
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| [21:44:00] | <fiasco> | skwashd, speaking of d7 database, http://drupal.org/sandbox/fiasco/1113886 |
| [21:44:25] | <fiasco> | skwashd, if you ever want to migrate to sqlite, postgresql, sqlserver, oracle |
| [21:44:37] | <fiasco> | skwashd, maybe even mongodb |
| [21:44:43] | <skwashd> | fiasco, choice bro! |
| [21:45:10] | <skwashd> | was i talking to you or someone else about why i thought everyone should be using sqlite for local dev? |
| [21:45:15] | <fiasco> | skwashd, its still not quite there yet but it will be |
| [21:45:35] | <fiasco> | skwashd, yeah I think you mentioned that to me. If not, someone did |
| [21:46:12] | <skwashd> | fiasco, it forces devs to deal with dbs other than MySQL and find driver specific issues |
| [21:46:36] | <fiasco> | skwashd, there is also this: http://drupal.org/node/1052244 |
| [21:46:50] | <fiasco> | skwashd, it looks at providing a db dump formatted in PHP |
| [21:47:22] | <fiasco> | skwashd, think of dbtng dump and restore rather than mysql dump and restore |
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| [21:48:31] | <fiasco> | argh! this installer creates the database then tries to query it straight away. WTF? |
| [21:49:25] | <skwashd> | fiasco, nice |
| [21:49:55] | <skwashd> | fiasco, and the problem is? |
| [21:50:08] | <fiasco> | skwashd, there are no tables to query |
| [21:50:14] | <skwashd> | lol |
| [21:50:17] | <skwashd> | good point |
| [21:50:19] | <fiasco> | Created aegirwgtncatitco database [success] |
| [21:50:20] | <fiasco> | Table 'aegirwgtncatitco.system' doesn't exist [warning] |
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| [21:51:21] | <fiasco> | PHP Fatal error: Unsupported operand types in /usr/share/drush/includes/environment.inc on line 698 |
| [21:51:25] | * fiasco face palms |
| [21:52:04] | <fiasco> | skwashd, will aegir run on php 5.3? |
| [21:52:16] | <skwashd> | fiasco, best to use 5.2 |
| [21:52:29] | <fiasco> | think I might give up for tonight |
| [21:52:42] | <skwashd> | sounds like a plan |
| [21:52:51] | <skwashd> | brute forced my table create :) |
| [21:53:26] | <fiasco> | skwashd, thanks for your help, next time I think I'll follow the scripts rather than the debian packaing |
| [21:53:36] | <skwashd> | fiasco, np |
| [21:53:42] | <skwashd> | the manual method works well |
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| [21:54:43] | <skwashd> | fiasco, while you're here ... is there guidance on using hook_entity_load vs hook_node_load? |
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| [23:47:04] | <anarcat> | fiasco: ping |
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| [00:12:37] | <anarcat> | fiasco: i have fixed the debian package, can you try again? |
| [00:13:58] | <anarcat> | actually, hold on, i'm still uploading it :) |
| [00:14:55] | <anarcat> | fiasco: in the future, please file those bugs in the trackers so we can followup - this is considered a critical issue now |
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| [00:33:17] | <EclipseGc> | anarcat: are you all doing an apt-get install aegir? |
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| [00:42:37] | <anarcat> | EclipseGc: we're switching our staging server to the debian package today, and switchin prod tomorrow |
| [00:42:45] | <anarcat> | and further new installs will be through the debian packages |
| [00:42:57] | <EclipseGc> | anarcat: awesome |
| [00:43:10] | * EclipseGc really needs to try the debian packages just for fun |
| [00:44:20] | <anarcat> | yeah, new installs need testing it seems |
| [00:44:26] | <anarcat> | i have mostly been testing the upgrade from manual installs |
| [00:45:15] | * EclipseGc nods |
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| [00:55:50] | <EclipseGc> | anarcat: are there aegir front end and aegir backend packages? or just frontend? |
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| [00:57:21] | <anarcat> | both |
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| [01:04:00] | <EclipseGc> | anarcat: is this documented somewhere? |
| [01:04:33] | <anarcat> | yes, in the install notes |
| [01:04:39] | <anarcat> | installing/debian |
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| [01:47:20] | <EclipseGc> | anarcat: ok cool |
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| [01:53:48] | <anarcat> | joestewart|afk: i'm working on the symlinks stuff |
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| [02:05:12] | <joestewart|afk> | anarcat: awesome. Sorry, didn't work on it last night and tied up today. |
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| [05:11:54] | <anarcat> | seen mr.baileys |
| [05:11:57] | <anarcat> | seen mrbaileys |
| [05:11:57] | <hefring> | mrbaileys was last seen in #aegir 2 weeks 1 day ago saying 'd_arthsteven: thanks, I'll leave a comment on the talk page and will submit the doxygen/api patch on d.o.'. |
| [05:12:56] | <anarcat> | <sigh> |
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| [06:56:37] | <anarcat> | i'll be at the scrum in 1h |
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| [07:11:57] | <ergonlogic> | anarcat: mig5 Vertice darthsteven sfyn Scrum? |
| [07:12:11] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: in 1h? |
| [07:12:16] | <ergonlogic> | EclipseGc: univate others: Scrum? |
| [07:12:19] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: i marked it for 18hEDT |
| [07:12:24] | <ergonlogic> | oops |
| [07:12:26] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: sure |
| [07:12:35] | <ergonlogic> | in *another* hour |
| [07:12:40] | * ergonlogic facepalm |
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| [07:13:12] | <ergonlogic> | I'm confused by time-zones... even my own |
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| [07:38:11] | <EclipseGc> | lol |
| [07:39:11] | <fiasco> | anarcat, sure, I'll give it another crack when I have a chance :) |
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| [07:53:31] | <omega8cc> | does the "drush sql-connect < database.sql" works for anyone? http://drupal.org/node/1117460 |
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| [07:57:15] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: don't you want drush sql-cli ? |
| [07:57:32] | <darthsteven> | though it's been a long while since I imported a DB that way |
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| [08:00:17] | <joestewart> | omega8cc: Like darthsteven said, sqlc |
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| [08:01:37] | <omega8cc> | not sure, it fails even with 3.3, wtf? http://drush.ws/#sql-connect |
| [08:01:57] | <anarcat> | scrum time! |
| [08:02:03] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: umm.... where does sql-cli come in> |
| [08:02:04] | <ergonlogic> | ? |
| [08:02:24] | <darthsteven> | drush sql-cli < database.sql |
| [08:02:27] | <anarcat> | mig5 / Vertice / darthsteven / EclipseGc / mvc / omega8cc / sfyn / skwashd / ergonlogic : scrum time! |
| [08:02:35] | <EclipseGc> | anarcat: yay |
| [08:02:42] | <anarcat> | joestewart: scrum! |
| [08:02:49] | <darthsteven> | crouch...touch...engage |
| [08:02:52] | <anarcat> | shrop / univate : scrum! |
| [08:02:57] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [08:03:31] | <anarcat> | so welcome everybody, sorry i'm little late :) |
| [08:03:35] | <anarcat> | i got tons of stuff :) |
| [08:03:39] | <anarcat> | first |
| [08:03:41] | <anarcat> | master is dead |
| [08:03:52] | <anarcat> | being an anarchist and all, no masters no god and everything ;) |
| [08:03:52] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: ok.... I still don't get it |
| [08:04:00] | <anarcat> | more seriously - we're all on 6.x-1.x now |
| [08:04:09] | <anarcat> | it was too much of a pain to sync that all the time |
| [08:04:20] | <EclipseGc> | heh |
| [08:04:32] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: has the master branch actually been removed now? |
| [08:04:40] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: yes, it's dead. |
| [08:04:49] | <darthsteven> | cool |
| [08:04:51] | <anarcat> | also, i have cleaned up the docs regarding the branch naming conventions here: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/187 |
| [08:05:00] | <ergonlogic> | long live 6.x-1.x! |
| [08:05:05] | <anarcat> | reviews of that from the docs team would be welcome |
| [08:05:18] | <anarcat> | speaking of which, we talked about having maintainers for various sections of the project |
| [08:05:28] | <anarcat> | the first of which is the docs team, spearheaded by darthsteven and ergonlogic |
| [08:05:40] | <anarcat> | i don't remember the full list of teams, but i'll dig it out later |
| [08:05:55] | <anarcat> | so congrats to the docs team for the awesome work so far, more on that from darthsteven ltr i guess |
| [08:06:00] | <anarcat> | i did the roadmap for 2.0 |
| [08:06:07] | <anarcat> | http://community.aegirproject.org/roadmap/2.0 |
| [08:06:15] | <anarcat> | everyone is strongly encouraged to review and augment |
| [08:06:21] | <anarcat> | and especially take tasks |
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| [08:06:48] | <anarcat> | koumbit will *not* do everything in there, but we *will* make a 2.0 release to deploy our changes in production, so the stuff that's not being taken care of will be pushed to 3.0 |
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| [08:07:13] | <anarcat> | i would love to get betas for 2.0 released by the end of summer, with rcs in automn (ie. koumbit runnin 2.x in production by the end of the summer) |
| [08:07:21] | <anarcat> | we release rc3 |
| [08:07:24] | <anarcat> | i want to release rc4 |
| [08:07:25] | <anarcat> | tonight |
| [08:07:32] | <anarcat> | we have a bunch more changes |
| [08:07:32] | <EclipseGc> | yay |
| [08:07:47] | <anarcat> | especially the symlink stuff (now sites are symlinked into /var/aegir/clients for easier access) |
| [08:07:53] | <anarcat> | provisionacl has been updated to fix the perms there too |
| [08:08:08] | <anarcat> | debian packages have been released and uploaded to debian.koumbit.net |
| [08:08:11] | <mig5> | whoop, daylight savings screwed me. morning |
| [08:08:23] | <EclipseGc> | morning mig5 |
| [08:08:26] | <anarcat> | morning mig5 ! :) |
| [08:08:46] | <anarcat> | there's been a few bugs with the debian packages, mostly with the new installs (because i'm mostly testing upgrades from our existing installs) |
| [08:08:56] | <anarcat> | upgrades work well, installs need testing but should work now |
| [08:09:11] | <anarcat> | the docs have been updated so that the manual install doesn't use install.sh |
| [08:09:16] | <anarcat> | which has been removed from the tree |
| [08:09:23] | <anarcat> | completely |
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| [08:09:32] | <anarcat> | and the manual docs have been updated to use hostmaster-install instead |
| [08:09:39] | <anarcat> | and favor the debian automatic installs through packages |
| [08:10:01] | <anarcat> | koumbit will deploy the stable branch in staging tonight or tomorrow and rc4 in prod tomorrow |
| [08:10:06] | <anarcat> | that's about it for me i think |
| [08:10:17] | <anarcat> | oh and i'm in a retreat in the woods to code like crazy for a week or two |
| [08:10:31] | <anarcat> | i'm trying to work on the d7 port, but if people want to join that effort, that would be welcome |
| [08:10:31] | <omega8cc> | haha |
| [08:10:43] | <anarcat> | i'll also focus on bootstrap security, as i see fun |
| [08:10:48] | <anarcat> | prioritisation welcome |
| [08:10:52] | <anarcat> | ok, next! |
| [08:10:57] | <mig5> | i've done nothing, i'm sick and also have busted my back. also, i fly to europe end of next week, what great timing |
| [08:11:06] | <mig5> | so i don't expect you'll get much out of me until end of may now |
| [08:11:31] | <mig5> | that's it for my pep talk |
| [08:11:35] | <anarcat> | yay! ;) |
| [08:11:38] | <omega8cc> | mig5: welcome to eu! |
| [08:11:41] | <anarcat> | well, rest and get well :) |
| [08:11:45] | <mig5> | thanks |
| [08:11:57] | <EclipseGc> | I also have done nothing, but anarcat if you're doing a 7.x upgrade I would love to be available in any capacity that you might find useful. Be that review, or just as someone to bounce ideas at |
| [08:12:08] | <anarcat> | EclipseGc: gotcha |
| [08:12:19] | <anarcat> | so let's welcome our new dev here - darthsteven , do you have something to share? |
| [08:12:33] | <darthsteven> | sure |
| [08:13:02] | <darthsteven> | So, prompted by ergonlogic's issue, I asked for commit access to aegir to work on the documentation |
| [08:13:14] | <darthsteven> | and it was granted |
| [08:13:23] | <anarcat> | great timing :) |
| [08:13:30] | <EclipseGc> | woot, now he can kick us all |
| [08:13:36] | <darthsteven> | hurrah! |
| [08:13:46] | <darthsteven> | (no idea how to though) |
| [08:13:49] | <anarcat> | congratulations! :) |
| [08:13:55] | <darthsteven> | so yeah, just been working on some docs |
| [08:13:57] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: /kick EclipseGc now now |
| [08:13:58] | <anarcat> | ;) |
| [08:13:59] | <omega8cc> | darthsteven: congrats! |
| [08:14:05] | <EclipseGc> | :-( |
| [08:14:10] | <omega8cc> | lol |
| [08:14:12] | <darthsteven> | and wrote an article about passing data from the Aegir frontend to the backend |
| [08:14:12] | <anarcat> | EclipseGc: just kidding :) |
| [08:14:15] | <EclipseGc> | heh |
| [08:14:23] | * EclipseGc saw that |
| [08:14:45] | <EclipseGc> | http://www.computerminds.co.uk/articles/storing-data-aegir |
| [08:14:58] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: that's nice! |
| [08:15:04] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: we should copy that into the manual somewhere... |
| [08:15:15] | <darthsteven> | from our work on the docs so far, I wonder if we wanted to clean up the API before the 1.0 final release? |
| [08:15:23] | <darthsteven> | it's not hugely consistent |
| [08:15:27] | <EclipseGc> | heh |
| [08:15:42] | <darthsteven> | but that would mean big changes I guess, so 2.0 stuff |
| [08:15:54] | <ergonlogic> | I've been promoted |
| [08:15:56] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: i would also think that api changes at this point would be a bit daring |
| [08:16:14] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: i would rather tag those inconsistencies as issues for 2.x |
| [08:16:17] | <darthsteven> | sure |
| [08:16:19] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: but document, document |
| [08:16:32] | <anarcat> | also, i think we should aim for a short 1.0 release cycle |
| [08:16:35] | <darthsteven> | so, plans are to add lots more documentation over the next days/weeks |
| [08:16:41] | <anarcat> | esp. because we're having api issues and so on |
| [08:16:42] | <darthsteven> | that's it for me |
| [08:16:46] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [08:16:57] | <anarcat> | thanks darthsteven and welcome again in the crew |
| [08:17:07] | <anarcat> | so a parenthesis on the statuses in this channel |
| [08:17:13] | <anarcat> | +o is for developers |
| [08:17:37] | <anarcat> | we're all equal there - if you need access to some resource on aegirproject.org or drupal.org, just ask and it will be granted |
| [08:17:47] | <anarcat> | +v is for (currently) occasional contributors |
| [08:17:53] | <anarcat> | it's the way to become a dev :) |
| [08:18:09] | <anarcat> | end of parenthesis |
| [08:18:18] | <anarcat> | so anyone else has something to add to our (late) scrum? |
| [08:18:19] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: ? |
| [08:18:53] | <omega8cc> | nothing from me this week, I'm sick, but hope to add something next week |
| [08:18:57] | <anarcat> | i can speak quickly for sfyn, who made his first official release of uc_hosting (1.0-beta1), ubercart integration |
| [08:19:06] | <anarcat> | which we're going to deploy soon |
| [08:19:18] | <anarcat> | also, we'll need to figure out where the heck univate has gone :) |
| [08:19:25] | <anarcat> | if anybody saw him, let me know ;) |
| [08:19:49] | <ergonlogic> | So, for my part, I've actually been pretty busy... |
| [08:19:57] | <ergonlogic> | testing some of the aegir contrib modules |
| [08:20:09] | <ergonlogic> | some functional updates to the community site (spread out over the past few weeks really)... and more to come |
| [08:20:19] | <ergonlogic> | Some documentation, though I feel I need to better understand how to document hooks properly... |
| [08:20:29] | <ergonlogic> | I'll be trying to debug some issues on api.aegirproject.org |
| [08:20:43] | <ergonlogic> | And I have a new Aegir contrib module (https://github.com/ergonlogic/hosting_saas) that denies uid1 to clients creating sites, and assignes them a role of our choosing |
| [08:20:52] | <ergonlogic> | which I'll release shortly on d.o, I think |
| [08:21:05] | <ergonlogic> | that's it, I think |
| [08:21:06] | <anarcat> | for hooks, we need to add sample code for it to make sense, e.g. hook_post_install() |
| [08:21:26] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: Feel free to ask me about documentation! |
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| [08:21:30] | <anarcat> | ah - ergonlogic and darthsteven - do we want to refactor your code straight into 1.0 core? or maybe we should wait for 2.x? |
| [08:21:31] | <EclipseGc> | ergonlogic: nice |
| [08:21:33] | <ergonlogic> | I've some experience with a coule now, so I can try to put something together |
| [08:21:44] | <ergonlogic> | s/coule/could |
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| [08:22:14] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: we're working in a branch of 1.0 |
| [08:22:32] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: for docs, but i was talking about the scheduling, the dispatcher, and saas stuff |
| [08:22:46] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: ah okay |
| [08:22:48] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: i think we can merge that branch in rc4 - it's really all just docs |
| [08:23:10] | <anarcat> | i also think we can merge documentation into 1.x releases after 1.0 |
| [08:23:24] | <ergonlogic> | I'd be happy for aegir core to appropriate hosting_saas |
| [08:23:34] | <anarcat> | so anyways, i think that's it for our scrum |
| [08:23:35] | <ergonlogic> | I think it might mean another promotion ;) |
| [08:23:44] | <anarcat> | hopefully we'll have rc4 ready tonight or tomorrow |
| [08:23:49] | <EclipseGc> | yay |
| [08:23:53] | <anarcat> | and 1.0 ready by next week or something |
| [08:23:54] | <EclipseGc> | mass migrate will come back :-D |
| [08:24:00] | <anarcat> | EclipseGc: yeah, i fixed it |
| [08:24:02] | <darthsteven> | cool |
| [08:24:04] | <EclipseGc> | anarcat: yeah I saw |
| [08:24:06] | <ergonlogic> | sounds good |
| [08:24:10] | <EclipseGc> | anarcat: thx for that :-D |
| [08:24:27] | <anarcat> | if someone wants to volunteer for the 1.x branch maintenance, i'd be happy to explain how that works and help with the work |
| [08:24:42] | <ergonlogic> | <crickets> |
| [08:24:45] | <EclipseGc> | lol |
| [08:24:48] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic: :P |
| [08:25:02] | <anarcat> | ergonlogic / darthsteven : i think i was too quick about the offer to merge the modules in core - let's do that merge in 2.x instead |
| [08:25:13] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: agreed |
| [08:25:29] | <anarcat> | okay, who wants the amazing and wonderful job of uploading the log in the site? |
| [08:25:32] | <ergonlogic> | k |
| [08:25:39] | <ergonlogic> | I'll do it |
| [08:25:46] | <anarcat> | great! |
| [08:26:04] | <anarcat> | thanks everyone for coming |
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| [08:28:29] | <omega8cc> | darthsteven: "drush sql-cli < database.sql" works, right, but www.drush.ws still has "drush sql-connect < database.sql" listed as a valid db import command, so I was confused |
| [08:28:39] | <anarcat> | http://drupal.org/node/1117488 |
| [08:28:53] | <anarcat> | 1.0-rc4 release coordination |
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| [08:29:57] | <darthsteven> | omega8cc: I'd didn't even know about drush sql-connect |
| [08:30:09] | <darthsteven> | anyway, it's like way past my bedtime... |
| [08:30:22] | <anarcat> | hey |
| [08:30:22] | <hefring> | ni hao |
| [08:30:28] | <darthsteven> | laters... |
| [08:30:29] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: i wanted to ask, where are you located? |
| [08:30:34] | <darthsteven> | UK |
| [08:30:39] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [08:30:42] | <anarcat> | gn! |
| [08:30:44] | <darthsteven> | so it's 11:30pm right now |
| [08:30:47] | <darthsteven> | :( |
| [08:30:52] | <omega8cc> | darthsteven: yeah, 0:30 here |
| [08:31:01] | <omega8cc> | good night! |
| [08:31:06] | <darthsteven> | you too |
| [08:31:13] | <mig5> | after your 100th commit you stop sleeping |
| [08:31:15] | <mig5> | :) |
| [08:31:17] | <mig5> | good night! |
| [08:31:23] | <darthsteven> | haha, I wish |
| [08:31:30] | <omega8cc> | haha |
| [08:32:10] | <mig5> | anarcat: yeah the release.sh probably needs a cleanup |
| [08:32:17] | <mig5> | i did it manually last time because i was in a hurry |
| [08:32:29] | <mig5> | easiest thing to forget is the upgrade.sh.txt |
| [08:33:56] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [08:34:12] | <omega8cc> | so how we expect to support non-debian distros now? |
| [08:34:30] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: with the manual install, as always |
| [08:34:52] | <mig5> | drush dl drush; drush dl provision; drush hostmast[D[Der-install :) |
| [08:34:58] | <mig5> | i wish that first part was possible |
| [08:35:03] | <mig5> | that would be a great April fools |
| [08:35:14] | <eft> | you |
| [08:35:21] | <mig5> | hostmaster* wtf |
| [08:35:23] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: so why we removed install.sh? hmm |
| [08:35:26] | <eft> | have exceeded your quota young man |
| [08:35:33] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: because it's useless |
| [08:35:43] | <anarcat> | all it really does that's complicated is install drush |
| [08:35:52] | <anarcat> | if drush is too hard to install, then install.sh belongs to drush, not aegir |
| [08:36:15] | <omega8cc> | ah, right |
| [08:36:43] | <mig5> | i wonder if we need to really shout out that the install.sh is gone |
| [08:36:58] | <mig5> | i see some clueless users have gone so far as to dig up the git.aegirproject.org copy and then complain onc.a.o that they can't install aegir |
| [08:37:02] | <anarcat> | but really, there should be a RPM that sets up that stuff, along with the .deb thing |
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| [08:37:28] | <anarcat> | mig5: then we need to shout louder |
| [08:37:34] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [08:37:41] | <anarcat> | really, i've done numerous trainings on aegir |
| [08:37:43] | <omega8cc> | I'm below 50% of my standard performance probably |
| [08:37:46] | <anarcat> | and install.sh gives us zlit |
| [08:38:11] | <anarcat> | by the time we get to install.sh, i already spent like 40 minutes debugging people's debian/ubuntu/osx/whatever the fuck they're running installs |
| [08:38:27] | <anarcat> | so really, maintaining that script is retarded |
| [08:38:31] | <anarcat> | and useless |
| [08:38:36] | <anarcat> | hostmaster-install does everything |
| [08:38:43] | <anarcat> | you just need to install drush |
| [08:39:03] | <anarcat> | if you can't figure out how to install drush or use debian packages, i'd like to say you're out |
| [08:39:08] | <anarcat> | or need training, to be more polite |
| [08:39:31] | <omega8cc> | or need to bash octopus, lol |
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| [08:41:36] | <omega8cc> | but yeah, making it too easy is good only to get more newbies involved, which is good and bad |
| [08:43:15] | <anarcat> | i don't think install.sh makes anything easier |
| [08:43:30] | <anarcat> | a *lot* of people have commented how scared they were of running that script |
| [08:43:36] | <anarcat> | because they didn't know what it was doing |
| [08:43:48] | <anarcat> | whereas hostmaster-install is more intuitive and prompts you right away |
| [08:44:19] | <omega8cc> | sure, I mean octopus here - as "too easy" |
| [08:45:44] | <omega8cc> | even if it is just a big wrapper around hostmaster-install + platforms |
| [08:45:49] | <omega8cc> | mig5: so you will see our beautiful eu spring, soon |
| [08:46:58] | <mig5> | yes! it was spring last time i was in europe too, 4 years ago |
| [08:47:00] | <mig5> | looking forward to it |
| [08:51:02] | <omega8cc> | mig5: so I will look forward to see you next photos gallery, as you are also a talented photographer |
| [08:53:34] | <mig5> | hehe no not really, i just copy my partner's style as she's truly good with a camera :) |
| [08:54:06] | <mig5> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/beeetle_/sets/72157624860188225/ |
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| [08:55:40] | <anarcat> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/542 |
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| [08:59:50] | <omega8cc> | mig5: so you are both talented! :) |
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| [09:03:07] | <omega8cc> | anarcat: well explained |
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| [09:04:40] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: thanks :) |
| [09:06:00] | <anarcat> | that will be linked from the relnotes |
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| [09:13:03] | <omega8cc> | good idea |
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| [09:47:24] | <anarcat> | Aegir frontend (@hostmaster) site detected in /var/aegir/hostmaster-1.0-rc2+koumbit |
| [09:47:27] | <anarcat> | upgrading the frontend from /var/aegir/hostmaster-1.0-rc2+koumbit to /var/aegir/hostmaster-6.x-1.x |
| [09:47:30] | * anarcat crossing fingers |
| [09:47:37] | <anarcat> | Unable to determine project type for drupal. [error] |
| [09:47:40] | <anarcat> | damn you drush make |
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