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| [10:00:17] | <sk33lz> | sorry I read that wrong originally |
| [10:01:00] | <sk33lz> | just checked, and yeah those are just platforms |
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| [10:17:33] | <nlcluigi> | Hi there. I want to ask you something: do you see some problems in doing developing on Aegir (mac) and production with Barracuda? |
| [10:17:52] | <nlcluigi> | Can someone give me some inputs please? |
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| [10:50:53] | <grape> | nlcluigi, I run aegir for all my work and have no problems. I don't use Barracuda, but I think your mileage would be similar. |
| [10:52:00] | <grape> | nlcluigi, I do use Linux, so I certainly can't tell you how anything runs on a Mac. |
| [10:55:44] | <nlcluigi> | 1 sec pls. I'm on the phone :( |
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| [11:24:55] | <nlcluigi> | grape: My concerns are that I have Barracuda (Nginx + Mariadb + Php-FM + etc) on a Debian 6 (production server). But on my mac I can't install this environment. So what I want to do is to install Aegir (Apache+ Php+ Mysql) and develop drupal here and after that to migrate the site on the debeian production server. What do you think? |
| [11:25:05] | <nlcluigi> | sorry for delay |
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| [11:26:51] | <grape> | aaah i see what you are trying to do |
| [11:27:06] | <grape> | there is only one way to find out ;-) |
| [11:27:14] | <nlcluigi> | No :) |
| [11:27:35] | <grape> | either you or somebody else is going to have to try it |
| [11:27:39] | <nlcluigi> | Do you think so? |
| [11:28:06] | <nlcluigi> | But after you ... where could I have some problems? In theory should work no? |
| [11:28:23] | <grape> | the other thing you could do is run a debian virtual machine on your mac, actually this might be the best idea |
| [11:28:24] | <nlcluigi> | For sure I will try. But I wanted some inputs first. |
| [11:28:47] | <nlcluigi> | I have tried this. It doesn't work. |
| [11:28:59] | <grape> | if you run a VM on your mac you can call it your dev box and try out your changes from there |
| [11:29:04] | <grape> | ah ok |
| [11:29:29] | <nlcluigi> | I got some wired errors from the script (Barracuda). Even on some Openvz or Ubuntu I got some errors. |
| [11:30:02] | <grape> | it may depend on what VM image you are using |
| [11:30:15] | <nlcluigi> | And the safe thing that I was thinking of was to install the classical Aegir. |
| [11:30:26] | <grape> | but it shouldn't be a problem running aegir on your mac and migrating sites to it |
| [11:30:49] | <grape> | it is a pretty soft landing |
| [11:30:54] | <nlcluigi> | I install it from zero. I mean .. I got the Debian minimal dvd, make the vm and install it |
| [11:31:19] | <grape> | just make sure you post what you find out on community.aegirproject.org |
| [11:31:28] | <nlcluigi> | :) Sure. |
| [11:31:41] | <grape> | i think it will work fine :-) |
| [11:31:54] | <nlcluigi> | From what do I know, MariaDB is a dropin replacement for Mysql no? |
| [11:32:08] | <grape> | yes |
| [11:32:22] | <grape> | a dropin upgrade |
| [11:32:26] | <grape> | ;-) |
| [11:32:32] | <nlcluigi> | Here are my worries. But it must be safe. :) |
| [11:34:08] | <nlcluigi> | Thank you for your advices grape. |
| [11:34:20] | <grape> | my pleasure |
| [11:34:28] | <grape> | i hope it works well for you |
| [11:35:59] | <nlcluigi> | I'm really afraid :) Nothing to loose but I have a server with iWeb and is a nightmare to reinstall it in case of failure :) |
| [11:36:55] | <grape> | you won't have to reinstall the server, just keep a list of what you install, and remove those things if ti doesn't work |
| [11:37:41] | <nlcluigi> | Yes, but usually the preferences (settings) are not removed. I am wrong? |
| [11:38:01] | <grape> | i try to copy over my installation commands onto a text file on my local computer when I am doing anything brave |
| [11:38:25] | <nlcluigi> | Good point. |
| [11:39:05] | <grape> | another good thing to do is make a copy of configuration files before you change them, leaving them in the same directory and putting .save or .orig after them |
| [11:39:17] | <grape> | that way you can roll right back to the original |
| [11:39:37] | <grape> | they won't get in the way of anything |
| [11:42:11] | <nlcluigi> | I use Webbycart for backup: http://www.webbycart.com/backup.htm. The best thing about it is that it have rsync :) |
| [11:43:36] | <nlcluigi> | I make regular backups. But still I'm paranoic. The latest think that I'm thinking of will be a LVM backup. With a restore snapshot. |
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| [16:10:30] | <recidive> | mig5: hi |
| [16:11:54] | <recidive> | dumb question, what should I do to retry installing a site that failed to install |
| [16:11:56] | <recidive> | ? |
| [16:12:35] | <recidive> | going to delete it |
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| [16:16:17] | <recidive> | ok, delete fails as well |
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| [16:18:31] | <recidive> | I saw there's a "install" option on /hosting/sites |
| [16:18:41] | <recidive> | but now my site can't be installed nor deleted |
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| [16:23:12] | <Aurorus> | recidive: Unfortunately, the only thing I've found to do is to go into the Drupal / Aegir hostmaster database and manually find the node "nids" that relate to the site you created as well as any tasks associated and delete them from the node, node_revisions and the platforms tables, also delete the directory, vhost.d file and the .drushrc files |
| [16:23:23] | <Aurorus> | it's pretty much brain surgery now |
| [16:24:05] | <Aurorus> | As of yet, there is no "Purge this site from the system" option |
| [16:25:10] | <recidive> | Aurorus: too bad, thanks for the tips |
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| [16:29:11] | <recidive> | Aurorus: it looks like navigating to /node/[nid]/delete and cofirm will delete it from all referenced tables |
| [16:29:39] | <Aurorus> | that could be cool :) |
| [16:29:47] | <Aurorus> | don't forget the files too :) |
| [16:31:02] | <recidive> | yeah, removed it from /sites |
| [16:31:10] | <recidive> | trying to recreate it again |
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| [16:38:46] | <recidive> | Aurorus: ok, I've bugfixed my install profile and the site works now |
| [16:38:51] | <recidive> | thanks for you help |
| [16:39:04] | <Aurorus> | nps - good luck recidive |
| [16:39:14] | <recidive> | thanks |
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| [17:27:20] | <boztek> | i'd like to install aegir with the debs but have it automated (with puppet) - haven't quite got my head around how to do that as my manifest seems to pop into the intereactive mode and fail - not sure if I should I be looking at apt, dpkg, puppet or aegir ? |
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| [17:34:41] | <boztek> | debconf? |
| [17:46:59] | <boztek> | This looks promising - http://blog.hjksolutions.com/articles/2007/07/27/unattended-package-inst... |
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| [18:59:05] | <mig5> | anarcat: thanks for doing the release. yes i was just waiting for .deb's. I regretted laying down the rc7 tags just to fix the installs/upgrades, i realised later you had basically fixed it but on the wrong branch |
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| [18:59:19] | <mig5> | so i could've rerolled the rc6 tags maybe |
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| [21:30:48] | <cmcintosh> | hey gang |
| [21:31:27] | <cmcintosh> | anyone have any experience at accessing one of a hosted sites database via the aegir site, mainly looking to run a query to check the current size of a database |
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| [21:51:25] | <mig5> | we don't store the database name of aegir-managed sites in the frontend |
| [21:51:29] | <mig5> | so you can't fish it out of the aegir db |
| [21:56:21] | <cmcintosh> | i figured it out |
| [21:56:54] | <cmcintosh> | looks like that the site databases follow a simple formula, i can take out the . and the first 13 characters and reliably get the correct database back |
| [21:57:43] | <cmcintosh> | granted it probably will bork if the database name does not follow that convention |
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| [21:57:59] | <cmcintosh> | will have to figure out something better long term, but for now i think it should work alright |
| [22:02:04] | <cmcintosh> | things are starting to move real quick on this project |
| [22:02:21] | <cmcintosh> | the built in IDE / oDesk on the project is really starting to come together nicely |
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| [22:04:08] | <cmcintosh> | mig5 how things been going for you lately |
| [22:04:15] | <cmcintosh> | been able to get any coding in |
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| [22:40:22] | <cmcintosh> | now got to figure out how to check filespace useage |
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| [01:28:25] | <boztek> | alas debian packages seem broken as of rc7 for me on both debian lenny and lucid w/5.2 packages - followed docs to the t |
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| [01:39:33] | <noecc> | file a bug report |
| [01:39:48] | <noecc> | boztek ^^ |
| [01:40:11] | <boztek> | noecc: yeah i'm trying to track it down - debug output is confusing though |
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| [02:45:10] | <AntiNSA> | he omegga8cc Im getting ready to do a fresh install of barracuda/octopus, is it a good time or do you have any commits comming out in the next couple of hours which I should wait for? |
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| [04:17:25] | <darthsteven> | ping: ergonlogic |
| [04:17:44] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: pong |
| [04:18:17] | <darthsteven> | Have you had chance to look at http://drupal.org/node/1123224 at all? |
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| [04:24:09] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: not lately |
| [04:24:49] | <ergonlogic> | sorry, I meant to look into that yesterday |
| [04:24:56] | <ergonlogic> | I'll try tonight |
| [04:25:02] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: ^ |
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| [04:26:23] | <darthsteven> | np |
| [04:26:29] | <darthsteven> | anything I can do to help? |
| [04:26:55] | <recidive> | I'm about to try upgrading from 1.0-rc6 to 1.0-rc7, is that just a matter of downloading the upgrade script and running it? |
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| [04:27:30] | <recidive> | I'm on ubuntu maveric, with nginx |
| [04:29:40] | <ergonlogic> | recidive: that should do it, but you may want to check out: http://community.aegirproject.org/upgrading, to confirm it's the best option for you |
| [04:30:13] | <ergonlogic> | darthsteven: well... I won't be able to touch it for another 7-8 hours... |
| [04:30:53] | <ergonlogic> | but at that point it'll be refactoring a little cron-triggered bash script |
| [04:31:32] | <ergonlogic> | I had been calling drush make, but I'll switch to git |
| [04:32:14] | <recidive> | ergonlogic: ok, thanks |
| [04:32:34] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: Thanks |
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| [07:56:48] | <darthsteven> | Scrum in five minutes |
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| [08:02:40] | <darthsteven> | mig5: ping |
| [08:02:44] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: ping |
| [08:02:56] | <darthsteven> | Scrum? |
| [08:02:56] | <hefring> | Every Tuesday at 22h00 UTC: 15h00 San Francisco, USA (PST), 18h00 Montreal, Canada (EDT), 23h00 London, UK (CET), 08h00 (Wednesday) Melbourne, Australia (EST) |
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| [08:03:32] | <darthsteven> | Guess this is going to be a quiet scrum then... |
| [08:03:38] | <darthsteven> | Well, I'll start |
| [08:04:06] | <obicke> | go for it |
| [08:04:19] | <darthsteven> | I've not done a whole lot of extra documentation, just all the constants in hostmaster, and a couple more hooks |
| [08:04:50] | <darthsteven> | I've been chasing ergonlogic about the api.a.o site not updating, he should be looking at it soon |
| [08:05:10] | <darthsteven> | hoping to still push some more docs before the 1.0 final release |
| [08:05:15] | <darthsteven> | that's it from me |
| [08:05:19] | <darthsteven> | anyone else? |
| [08:06:50] | <darthsteven> | EclipseGc, ergonlogic, grugnog, mvc, omega8cc, sfyn, shrop, skwashd or anyone else have anything to add? |
| [08:06:57] | * obicke is trying to round up anarcat and ergonlogic |
| [08:07:04] | * EclipseGc was not reading |
| [08:07:40] | * EclipseGc has nothing to add |
| [08:08:32] | <shrop> | Nothing at this point |
| [08:08:57] | <shrop> | When is v1 coming out? |
| [08:09:35] | <darthsteven> | soon |
| [08:10:58] | * EclipseGc would like to point out his new power-module though ;-) http://drupal.org/project/path_profiler |
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| [08:11:57] | <darthsteven> | I'll give this scrum until 22:15UTC |
| [08:14:26] | <sethvincent> | darthsteven: where are the api docs located? |
| [08:15:18] | <darthsteven> | sethvincent: api.aegirproject.org |
| [08:15:54] | <sethvincent> | thanks |
| [08:16:56] | <darthsteven> | that's the end of the scrum then |
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| [08:45:28] | <mig5> | sorry i missed |
| [08:45:39] | <mig5> | 8:00 is awkward for me, i am usually commuting |
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| [08:53:55] | <Aurorus> | mig5: you in Aussie? |
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| [08:54:32] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [08:54:37] | <Aurorus> | ahh, nice |
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| [09:09:23] | <AntiNSA> | omega I am receving an error on barracuda setup after running bash. |
| [09:09:44] | <AntiNSA> | b2.sh: line 420: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' |
| [09:09:44] | <AntiNSA> | b2.sh: line 420: `/var/backups/dragon/t/opt-etc-php.ini-pre-$_INSTALLER_VERSION-$_NOW &> ' |
| [09:11:03] | <AntiNSA> | please tell me omegga8cc is still awake :( |
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| [09:14:51] | <AntiNSA> | hmm.. strange ok now? |
| [09:14:55] | <AntiNSA> | thanks the gods |
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| [09:39:24] | <sk33lz> | AntiNSA, I was just installing a new install and had a weird error as well that kept looping through. I canceled the bash and reran the Barracuda script and everything seems ok now so far |
| [09:43:11] | <sk33lz> | odd, for some reason it like forgot to grab wget 0_o |
| [09:54:27] | <AntiNSA> | right now after skipping webmin install there is no wheel..... its just sitting there for like 5 minutes... getting nervous. |
| [09:54:47] | <AntiNSA> | I am in such a hurry tio get this isntalled. was supposed to do it 6 hours ago but had to slepp :( |
| [09:56:17] | <AntiNSA> | did yours make it through barracuda set up successfully?? |
