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[11:38:43]<acbot>well done on the 1.0 release everyone :D
[11:38:45]<acbot>very cool
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[14:17:15]<cmcintosh>hey gang
[14:17:40]<cmcintosh>is there i can write a hostmaster module that will update a vhost record through the aegir system
[14:27:14]<cmcintosh>sfyn: around?
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[14:46:23]<cmcintosh>mig5: about? with the _provision_apache_vhost_config, when is that fired / checked. Say for example with this resources module i am writting i will need to be able to update / change settings for the cband apache module whenever the ui changes
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[15:44:28]<acbot>cmcintosh: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/70
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[16:20:21]<kalebas>hi all
[16:20:26]<kalebas>and whether I understand that barracuda does not use the module ngx_http_memcached_module in nginx?
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[16:42:15]<cmcintosh>acbot: how are you going about entering line breaks for the vhost
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[16:58:36]<acbot>cmcintosh: http://pastebin.com/FYqGDkre
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[17:29:56]<cmcintosh>acbot: werid i keep getting a ^M in my vhost file where ever there is a line break
[17:30:03]<cmcintosh>could it be char coding?
[17:33:48]<acbot>what editor are you using
[17:34:19]<cmcintosh>im using eclipse on a windows system
[17:34:30]<acbot>can you use vi?
[17:34:49]<cmcintosh>yea
[17:34:57]<acbot>try that out and see if it works
[17:36:34]<cmcintosh>may be some tabs in there :/
[17:36:38]<cmcintosh>testing now
[17:36:41]<acbot>yer
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[17:37:52]<cmcintosh>that did not work out so good, wrong encoding for sure
[17:38:26]<acbot>ah
[17:38:35]<acbot>what happened?
[17:42:45]<cmcintosh>reoppened in eclipse and it was gobbly gook
[17:43:34]<cmcintosh>will be nice when i get this resource management module done
[17:44:07]<cmcintosh>looks like that fixed it
[17:47:56]<cmcintosh>sweet
[17:48:16]<cmcintosh>acbot integrating the cband mod for apache into aegir so i can setup bandwidth quotas / etc
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[17:49:18]<acbot>ah nice
[17:49:25]<acbot>that would be a cool thing to have
[17:49:29]<cmcintosh>yea
[17:49:37]<acbot>i know someone tried to do quotas before.. was that you?
[17:49:40]<cmcintosh>im writting it up to handle bandwidth, filespace, and database
[17:49:48]<cmcintosh>i think so
[17:51:14]<acbot>ah cool
[17:51:19]<acbot>i look forward to seeing it
[17:51:21]<cmcintosh>need to figure how im going to handle the scoreboard stuff
[17:51:48]<cmcintosh>trying to think through how it should work
[17:52:04]<cmcintosh>i would like to be able to do some heirarchy controls for server > platform > client > site
[17:52:24]<cmcintosh>ie you could set on a server the default or max quotas for new sites
[17:52:36]<cmcintosh>which would be helpful if you want to setup a server that runs a bunch of demos
[17:52:39]<acbot>yeh
[17:52:47]<acbot>it would be nice to have a 'pool' on a platform too
[17:52:55]<acbot>ie xMB for platform y
[17:53:01]<cmcintosh>right
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[17:53:29]<cmcintosh>cause the other part of this is writting up some Amazon API integration for my solution
[17:53:42]<cmcintosh>so that aegir can spin up new servers when it gets low on resources
[17:53:50]<acbot>thats cool
[17:53:58]<cmcintosh>yea
[17:54:21]<cmcintosh>i think im doing good for a one man team
[17:54:22]<cmcintosh>lol
[17:54:38]<cmcintosh>http://wembassy.com so far works pretty good, still a few bugs to work out with the email system
[17:54:52]<cmcintosh>ie new site created > sends mail to user
[17:55:52]<acbot>cool.. we made pagebuild.net.. similar idea :)
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[17:56:04]<cmcintosh>yea
[17:56:23]<cmcintosh>the big thing with what i got going is it is going to be a complete cloud solution for websites
[17:56:35]<cmcintosh>meaning you can build, develope, and market all through the web
[17:56:57]<acbot>cool
[17:57:02]<cmcintosh>i got about 60 - 65% done with integration of ACE js IDE into oDesk solution i got going
[17:58:03]<cmcintosh>there is going to also be a method of being able to purchase themes / features from dev shops, so say if your an awesome themer you can just start selling themes through the system, with the low end themes it limits the customer to how ever many licenses they buy, and with the exclusive rights level it then provides a downloadable theme
[17:58:26]<cmcintosh>i need to get a designer to hammer away at the ux for the tool though
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[18:04:15]<siliconmeadow>congrats on the 1.0 release :-)
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[18:06:27]<acbot>cmcintosh: i made a site :)
[18:10:26]<cmcintosh>cool stuff
[18:11:30]<cmcintosh>ah nice and you picked a starter theme too
[18:13:15]<acbot>you are going to have to stop ppl being able to turn the php filter on
[18:13:23]<acbot>in modules
[18:15:42]<cmcintosh>yea
[18:16:10]<cmcintosh>that and diable exec()
[18:17:34]<darthsteven>cmcintosh: and all the other exec like commands...
[18:18:08]<cmcintosh>yea
[18:18:23]<cmcintosh>lot of stuff to lock down before its ready
[18:21:03]<cmcintosh>but i think its heading in the correct direction
[18:21:22]<cmcintosh>and for something that im doing part time along side of my normal work its going pretty good
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[18:52:37]<mrfelton>I'm trying to build a distribution from a make file, and drush make gets all the way through with no errors, but no distribution is actually created
[18:52:49]<mrfelton>Actually, there is one error...
[18:52:54]<mrfelton>Found makefile: salesforce.make [ok]
[18:52:55]<mrfelton>No core project specified. [error]
[18:53:05]<acbot>tehre is your error :)
[18:53:21]<mrfelton>acbot: is that what is causing me to have no resulting build directory?
[18:53:25]<mrfelton>it didn't stop the build
[18:53:31]<StepanKuzmin>cmcintosh, as I understood, you have created conditional action on your ubercart frontend, am I right?
[18:53:32]<mrfelton>it got all the way through to the end
[18:53:33]<acbot>I would guess so yeh
[18:54:19]<mrfelton>acbot: this error comes from a makefile that is included with the salesforce module. It doesn't specify a core project because it doesn't need one, obviously
[18:54:39]<mrfelton>how can you tell drush make that its ok to have no core project specified?
[18:54:41]<adrinux>mrfelton: there's a drush make issue about that somewhere.
[18:55:13]<mrfelton>adrinux: I see. know if there is a patch?
[18:55:15]<acbot>mrfelton.. why not just write your own makefile
[18:55:17]<adrinux>mrfelton: I mean't about the no platform on error
[18:55:23]<mrfelton>ah ok
[18:55:45]<mrfelton>adrinux: so what about the actual issue... why does drush make think its not ok that an included makefile doesn't have a core specified
[18:55:57]<adrinux>mrfelton: it now assembles the platform in /tmp, but on error it never gets copied to final location
[18:57:12]<mrfelton>adrinux: ok, so I see the build in /tmp. I'll just copy it out for now then
[18:58:06]<cmcintosh>anyone know if aegir keeps track of the physical location of a site its managing?
[18:58:11]<acbot>I would just copy the salesforce makefile and then add a bit to the top that sets a core
[18:58:11]<adrinux>mrfelton: so this is another module with a make file that breaks builds and that you can't remove?
[18:58:14]<mrfelton>any ideas about the no core specified problem? I know there is the --no-core switch, but this doesn't really make sence in this case, sine I do have a core in my top level makefile... this problem is coming from a makefile that is bundled with a module
[18:58:50]<adrinux>first thing I would do is go file an issue for that module. I've had to do this with several modules aleady
[18:59:05]<mrfelton>acbot: I cab't really modify the salesforce makefie... since it is automatically downlaoded as its bundled with the module
[18:59:07]<adrinux>suggest that it's named modulename.make.example
[18:59:28]<adrinux>so it doesn't break builds but people can use it if they want
[18:59:39]<acbot>why are these modules packaging makefiles? to get dependencies?
[18:59:48]<adrinux>often yes
[18:59:55]<mrfelton>adrinux: it looks like the purpose of the salesforce makefile is to download a supporting library. And I thought drush make was supposed to recuse.
[19:00:09]<mrfelton>surely that is a valid thing to do?
[19:00:29]<adrinux>yeah, but as you've seen if the make is broken it stops you from installing the module with drush make
[19:01:08]<adrinux>I'm sure we'll get to a point where drush make can do this robustly, but it's way to buggy right now
[19:01:12]<mrfelton>adrinux: but is the make really broken? Is it not valid tyo have a makefile without a core specified?
[19:01:17]<mrfelton>fair enough
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[19:02:30]<mrfelton>ok, well then I'll patch salesforce to rename the file, upload the patch to d.o, and then reference the patch in my makefile... I assume that would let me work around it? I guess the question is, will drush make apply my patch before attempting to run that makefile?
[19:02:58]<acbot>mrfelton :p nice.. i dont think it will though
[19:03:04]<mrfelton>grrr
[19:03:08]<acbot>try it
[19:03:16]<acbot>but i would wager it is patched after all the 'making'
[19:03:20]<adrinux>it wont
[19:03:30]<mrfelton>hmm. ok
[19:03:38]<adrinux>the included make will run before the patch I think
[19:03:47]<mrfelton>so how to get this bloody module included then?!
[19:03:51]<adrinux>you'll have to go manual
[19:04:04]<adrinux>wget, curl or whatever
[19:04:32]<mrfelton>what, use wget in my makefile to download a tar? will that stop it from running the makefile?
[19:04:54]<adrinux>you see why I suggested no modules should have make files auto run? when it breaks it *really* breaks
[19:05:12]<adrinux>you can't use wget in a make file afaik
[19:05:33]<mrfelton>well, [type] = get
[19:05:44]<adrinux>I mean after building the platform. you'll have to script it, or clone the module to your own repo and patch it
[19:05:57]<adrinux>you can. ooh. :)
[19:06:15]<mrfelton>would [type] = get stop the makefile running?
[19:06:25]<adrinux>no idea if that stops it running the makefile
[19:06:35]* mrfelton gives it a try
[19:06:37]<acbot>i think no
[19:06:46]<adrinux>I'm guessing not, since it normally downloads the tarball anyway
[19:06:50]<cmcintosh>found a solution
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[19:08:30]<adrinux>mrfelton, similar issue on geofield module: http://drupal.org/node/1122024
[19:08:40]<mrfelton>adrinux: nah, type = get didn't work
[19:08:43]<mrfelton>sames issue
[19:09:11]<adrinux>yep. either fork the module and patch, or do it outside of drush make
[19:13:26]<adrinux>mrfelton: here's a couple of other modules I've had the broken makefile issue with CKEditor http://drupal.org/node/1011178 and Colorbox http://drupal.org/node/839580
[19:14:12]<mrfelton>adrinux: I'm just writing up an issue for the salesforce module. Should my suggestion and patch be that the makefile is renamed to modulename.make.example ?
[19:14:35]<adrinux>that's what was suggested and done for ckeditor and colorbox
[19:14:43]<mrfelton>ok, cool
[19:14:48]<adrinux>stops it auto running
[19:15:17]<adrinux>but lets face it most people using drush_make can cut and paste the code into their own make files
[19:15:51]<adrinux>I hope it does work eventually, because it's damn cool feature :)
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[19:22:36]<mrfelton>http://drupal.org/node/1130430
[19:23:20]<adrinux>oh my
[19:24:51]<mrfelton>actually, my patch was borked
[19:25:28]<mrfelton>hmm. git diff doesn't include new files added with git add
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[19:38:56]<darthsteven>mrfelton: git format-patch
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[19:39:30]<mrfelton>darthsteven: hmm. produces no output for me
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[19:40:32]<mrfelton>oh ignore that. produces loads of files in the root
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[19:45:21]<darthsteven>http://drupal.org/node/1054616
[19:45:30]<darthsteven>you'll want the --stdout option
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[23:15:12]<hefring>community => drush update command crushes => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/drush-update-command-crushes
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[23:27:26]<cmcintosh>cool beans
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[23:30:21]<ergonlogic>hefring tell anarcat ack, http://community.aegirproject.org/faq#user
[23:30:21]<hefring>ergonlogic: I'll pass that on when anarcat is around.
[23:31:28]<cmcintosh>ergonlogic hey how things been going
[23:32:58]<cmcintosh>ergonlogic: you doing any work with monitoring filespace/database/bandwidth with in the framework of the uc_hosting project yet?
[23:33:28]<ergonlogic>cmcintosh: good, you
[23:33:49]<cmcintosh>coding away on stuff. http://wembassy.com is coming along alright
[23:33:49]<ergonlogic>no, I'm not doing any of stats dev
[23:34:06]<cmcintosh>still got a lot of backend coding on it
[23:34:20]<ergonlogic>cmcintosh: mvc was working on those things, but needed some patches to aegir core
[23:34:22]<cmcintosh>ergonlogic: ah cool, im just getting into the whole resource management
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[23:35:07]<ergonlogic>cmcintosh: this may be of interest to you though: http://github.com/ergonlogic/hosting_saas
[23:35:07]<cmcintosh>seems like most of what im looking to do i can do via aegir as of 1.0, plus some rules integration work
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[23:35:34]<ergonlogic>yeah, it's pretty solid
[23:35:57]<cmcintosh>yea
[23:36:27]<cmcintosh>i need to sit down one day and hammer the bugs completly out of the hostmaster_services module i am writting
[23:36:42]<cmcintosh>get it defined solidy and release it with a example client module
[23:37:30]<cmcintosh>i mean it works solid for me, but getting it to the point that it is foolproof is a little bit off yet
[23:37:30]<ergonlogic>hostmaster_services is intended to allow remote storefronts?
[23:37:35]<cmcintosh>right
[23:37:53]<cmcintosh>well that and other things too. You could use it for Web applications of any kind as well
[23:37:59]<ergonlogic>release early, release often...
[23:38:03]<cmcintosh>yea
[23:38:33]<cmcintosh>i also need to get my bespin/Ace editor module up and posted for a release
[23:38:38]<ergonlogic>broader testing is the only way to approach foolproof
[23:38:43]<cmcintosh>yea
[23:38:57]<ergonlogic>i.e. find lots of fools :)
[23:38:58]<cmcintosh>for sure
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[23:39:35]<cmcintosh>i have been getting some good feedback with the self service thing im doing
[23:39:58]<cmcintosh>need to get a designer in on it once i get the back end bugs worked out to something that is stable
[23:41:14]<ergonlogic>I'm working on getting a solid Open Atrium self-service offering up and running in the next couple weeks
[23:41:41]<cmcintosh>ah
[23:41:49]<cmcintosh>something like cashbudd.com has then
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[23:42:27]<ergonlogic>well, not cashflow...
[23:42:36]<cmcintosh>yea
[23:42:43]<cmcintosh>but generally what i mean
[23:42:59]<cmcintosh>im looking to port a lot of the functionality of OA into d7 so i can use it in my platform
[23:43:11]<ergonlogic>I'm not really familiar with their offering
[23:43:36]<ergonlogic>hmm... oa's a complicated beast
[23:44:13]<cmcintosh>yea
[23:44:19]<cmcintosh>it is, with spaces, feature, etc
[23:44:25]<ergonlogic>yep
[23:45:03]<ergonlogic>I have a couple pet OA features that I'm hoping to polish
[23:45:12]<ergonlogic>fun stuff
[23:45:18]<cmcintosh>yea for sure
[23:46:07]<cmcintosh>looks like im going to be starting to take over some modules and themes to maintain / port to d7
[23:46:21]<cmcintosh>half excited getting into this stuff half dreading it
[23:46:22]<cmcintosh>lol
[23:46:38]<ergonlogic>understandable
[23:46:42]<adrinux>good luck :)
[23:46:51]<cmcintosh>just seen an interesting post earlier today for: http://drupal.org/project/timeline
[23:46:57]<ergonlogic>for a D7 OA?
[23:46:58]<cmcintosh>really nice looking ui
[23:47:07]<cmcintosh>well for d7 stuff in general
[23:47:23]<cmcintosh>i have been porting some d6 themes, some d6 modules that i want to have in the d7 environment
[23:47:28]<ergonlogic>timeline is slick
[23:47:52]<cmcintosh>if only bubbletimer looked that cool
[23:48:28]<ergonlogic>thankfully, with drush make, you can submit patches to issue queues, and apply them when building a platform, then strip them out as they get committed.
[23:48:58]<ergonlogic>you're looking for time-tracking functionality?
[23:49:09]<cmcintosh>no not really
[23:49:12]<ergonlogic>Koumbit has some cool stuff along those lines
[23:49:17]<cmcintosh>just commenting on how clean and smooth it works
[23:49:26]<ergonlogic>ah
[23:49:37]<ergonlogic>easy to theme?
[23:49:45]<cmcintosh>yea
[23:49:58]<cmcintosh>i may port that to d7 for use with blogs or something like that
[23:50:01]<cmcintosh>or events
[23:50:05]<ergonlogic>that was really my only concern about it
[23:50:20]<cmcintosh>i have a paid project coming up that revolves around calendar events
[23:50:34]<anarcat>hi all
[23:50:34]<hefring>anarcat: 20 min 13 sec ago <ergonlogic> tell anarcat ack, http://community.aegirproject.org/faq#user
[23:50:42]<cmcintosh>hey anarcat how things
[23:50:50]<ergonlogic>I was thinking a news reader would work well with timeline
[23:50:52]<anarcat>not bad and ya?
[23:50:54]<ergonlogic>hi
[23:50:54]<hefring>privet
[23:51:03]<cmcintosh>doing good
[23:51:06]<anarcat>ergonlogic: nice
[23:51:06]<cmcintosh>keeping busy coding
[23:51:12]<cmcintosh>building some resource management atm
[23:51:29]<cmcintosh>ergonlogic: yea a rss reader would be a good match up for it
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[23:53:58]<ergonlogic>anarcat: thx
[23:54:46]* anarcat notes there are still 0 criticals in the queue - impressive!
[23:56:07]<cmcintosh>hehe
[23:56:49]<cmcintosh>aegir is pretty solid beast
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[23:57:09]<anarcat>well, we fought hard to make it so too
[23:57:16]<anarcat>can't wait to see that first critical, to be honest :P
[23:57:28]<cmcintosh>i noticed there are some rules now in aegir
[23:57:30]<anarcat>1.0 is always scary to new users, 1.1 means there was wider mass testing
[23:57:31]<cmcintosh>pretty sweet
[23:57:36]<anarcat>rules?
[23:57:43]<cmcintosh>Rules support
[23:58:13]<cmcintosh>nevermind, doh
[23:58:20]<cmcintosh>lol that is my module adding it
[23:58:23]<anarcat>i wasn't aware of that
[23:58:26]<anarcat>ah
[23:58:34]<anarcat>you need to publish your stuff on drupal.org
[23:58:34]<cmcintosh>its bad when you forget features you wrote
[23:58:39]<cmcintosh>yea
[23:58:51]<anarcat>so that we can feature it here: http://community.aegirproject.org/examples
[23:58:53]<cmcintosh>i got a page on the community.aegir site also
[23:59:49]<anarcat>yeah well, tarballs on a wiki page are not exactly my idea of a release :P
[23:59:50]<cmcintosh>i think i will sit down tomorrow, polish / define the services api module and the rules integration module i wrote then post them up on d.O and community.aegir
[23:59:56]<cmcintosh>lol yea
[23:59:58]<cmcintosh>true
[00:00:08]<anarcat>anyways
[00:00:10]<anarcat>gotta go!
[00:00:19]<cmcintosh>have a good one
[00:00:24]<anarcat>you too
[00:00:27]<cmcintosh>got to get back into this resource module
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[04:16:51]<noecc>anarcat: ping
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[04:18:47]<anarcat>noecc: pong, rather busy
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[04:20:14]<noecc>anarcat: when you are not, try drush dl --destination=/var/aegir/.drush provision
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[04:22:54]<anarcat>i tried that before, what is that about
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[04:24:41]<noecc>Isn't that master branch old?
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[04:26:00]<anarcat>i have no idea what you'Re talking about
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[04:31:23]<noecc>I'm looking for ways to break an install. The manual install step 5.2. Install provision, if the -6.x is left off of the drush command it presents that master option. Is this a potential problem?
[04:33:13]<anarcat>yes
[04:33:15]<anarcat>is is
[04:33:18]<anarcat>it is
[04:33:26]<anarcat>the solution is to fix drush, i think
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[07:19:37]<obrienmd>omega8cc: thanks much for the memory optimization stuff in latest BOA commits!
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[07:41:55]<darthsteven>If someone is interested in chained SSL certificates, http://drupal.org/node/1062168 might be worth a look/review
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[08:16:07]<anarcat>darthsteven: i am!
[08:16:12]<anarcat>i saw there was some movement there...
[08:16:25]<anarcat>i kinda took a break from the issue queue in the last few days, seems like i need to kick back in :)
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[08:38:21]<anarcat>sfyn: thanks for your bug report, i have commented and requested more feedback here: https://drupal.org/node/1130992
[08:38:33]<anarcat>sfyn: this could be our first critical of the new release cycle, congrats! :P
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[08:44:18]<szczym>sfyn: thanx for into i was just about to upgrade my barracuda pet to aegir 1.0
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[08:46:32]<szczym>omega8cc: have a look on https://drupal.org/node/1130992 sounds like the master of bugs just came out from darkness to the real live
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[08:52:46]<recidive>hi, has someone tested aegir on nginx 1.0?
[08:53:04]<anarcat>http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/2x-branch-created
[08:53:22]<anarcat>darthsteven / mig5 / Vertice / sfyn / omega8cc / ergonlogic / ... : http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/2x-branch-created
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[08:59:15]<anarcat>wtf
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[08:59:30]<anarcat>mig5: you around? jenkins is being a dick
[08:59:33]<anarcat>ERROR: Nothing to do
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[09:02:06]<hefring>community => 2.x branch created => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/2x-branch-created
[09:06:56]<anarcat>bloody hell
[09:07:25]<Aurorus>what's failling?
[09:07:47]<Aurorus>"ERROR: Nothing to do" ?
[09:07:48]<anarcat>Aurorus: jenkins
[09:07:50]<anarcat>yeah
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[09:10:37]<Aurorus>well, it's getting quicker
[09:10:46]<Aurorus>that's something to be happy about, I guess :-/
[09:11:00]<Aurorus>see if you can get it to pre-emptively fail :P
[09:12:03]* szczym [off-topic] been looking into the jankins thingy and found the wow plugin: https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Lava+Lamp+Notifier
[09:12:21]<anarcat>Aurorus: it's probably loading the files in cache :P
[09:12:28]<anarcat>but i think i figured it out
[09:12:45]<anarcat>for some reason, running a fresh new task with git enabled fails
[09:13:10]<Aurorus>strange
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[09:26:11]<anarcat>alright, that's cool
[09:26:20]<anarcat>let's see if it picks up the changes i pushed on 2.x
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