IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-04-19 (GMT)

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[10:02:38]<sfyn>anarcat, szczym: uh, thanks?
[10:02:58]<anarcat>sfyn: what's that?
[10:04:40]<sfyn>anarcat: the congrats on finding a possible crit
[10:04:58]<anarcat>that wasn't sarcasm, it was an honest thanks :)
[10:05:10]<anarcat>better to fidn those bugs with a good description than to suffer them :)
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[10:11:47]<sfyn>I am at a loss about what is causing it
[10:11:58]<sfyn>Hoping it will come to me in my sleep
[10:12:04]<anarcat>yeah
[10:12:11]<anarcat>rebuilding the node_access tbl didn't work?
[10:12:30]<sfyn>nope
[10:12:38]<sfyn>not surprised really
[10:13:20]<sfyn>I'll try looking at the grants next - but I think the logical next step is to put a backtrace into drupal_access_denied or whatever generates that page
[10:15:20]<Aurorus>sfyn: Is it a cached page? I've had FF4 present cached pages for phpMyAdmin on login
[10:15:30]<Aurorus>wouldn't let me log in at all
[10:15:48]<sfyn>blink
[10:15:56]<sfyn>I didn't think of that, actually
[10:16:22]<sfyn>No, it's not cached
[10:16:26]<Aurorus>try diff browser and/or privacy mode?
[10:16:39]<sfyn>yes, that I have
[10:17:41]<Aurorus>darn
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[11:22:18]<c_mcintosh>good morning gang
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[11:35:48]<recidive>hi, how easy is to change a platform path?
[11:36:04]<recidive>and want to move all my platforms for /var/aegir/platforms for consistency
[11:36:12]<recidive>s/and/I
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[11:57:39]<recidive>mig5: hello, got a second?
[12:16:45]<c_mcintosh>recidive: not sure he is on atm, whats up maybe i can be of assistance while i wait for this download
[12:17:38]<recidive>c_mcintosh: hi, I just want to move a platform to the platforms folder and want to know how I can change it's path
[12:17:45]<recidive>if it's something easy to do
[12:18:03]<c_mcintosh>hmm
[12:18:36]<c_mcintosh>easy way i would think is to cp the platform there, and create a new platfrom in aegir pointing to the new one then migrate your sites there
[12:18:58]<c_mcintosh>just remember to leave out the sites/www.example.com folders when you cp it
[12:21:48]<recidive>k
[12:21:57]<recidive>I though I could do something fancier
[12:22:02]<recidive>c_mcintosh: thanks anyway
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[12:27:47]<c_mcintosh>nice got cband working
[12:27:59]<c_mcintosh>now to just figure out how im going to read the bandwidth useage
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[12:32:19]<c_mcintosh>that and to store it where it does not mess up the vhosts
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[13:10:22]<c_mcintosh>awe that is some sweetness
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[13:12:34]<c_mcintosh>ergonlogic: you around
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[14:10:19]<c_mcintosh>SWEET!
[14:10:21]<c_mcintosh>got it working
[14:10:40]<c_mcintosh>i now have full monitoring of Bandwidth, filespace, and database useage built into the aegir ui
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[15:36:36]<realityloop>is it safe to use the apt installation to upgrade from manual?
[15:41:16]<merro>any idea's why i'd be getting " Please choose a valid platform" when trying to add a domain alias to an existing site? it has the correct platform (drupal 7.0) listed
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[16:25:16]<c_mcintosh>aegir lovers: http://drupal.org/project/hostmaster_plus
[16:32:08]<c_mcintosh>realityloop: still on?
[16:32:24]<realityloop>c_mcintosh: yep.. still here
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[16:33:18]<realityloop>c_mcintosh: Hostmaster Plus looks great.. I'll be trying that out at some stage
[16:33:23]<c_mcintosh>how you feel about having rules integration, services api, and resource management as sub modules of a single project for hostmaster?
[16:33:29]<c_mcintosh>yea
[16:33:43]<c_mcintosh>going through cleaning the module up, and writting documentation for it
[16:34:12]<realityloop>I'd probably want services API separate.. in case you want to disable it
[16:34:19]<c_mcintosh>Yea
[16:34:31]<c_mcintosh>no i am keeping them as several sub modules that you can disable
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[16:34:36]<c_mcintosh>just have them all in one project
[16:34:51]<realityloop>ah.. thats fine
[16:34:56]<c_mcintosh>because for instance with hostmaster_resources you have to do a bit of extra configuration to get mod_cband working
[16:35:12]<c_mcintosh>btw do you know how to add in a setting into the server wide config on aegir?
[16:35:59]<realityloop>no, sorry I don't
[16:36:29]<c_mcintosh>darn, and the documentation is empty on the community site
[16:36:35]<c_mcintosh>ill hang around for todays meetup
[16:38:25]<realityloop>home time for me.. bbl
[16:54:37]<darthsteven>c_mcintosh: interesting, I'd like to see the code for hostmaster_options
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[17:01:05]<c_mcintosh>im fixing to post it
[17:01:40]<c_mcintosh>its pretty straight forward atm i am adding ahah support, originally it was just a text are that you posted an array into
[17:02:11]<c_mcintosh>for the first version i may keep the text area
[17:02:17]<c_mcintosh>just for time constraints i have at the moment
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[18:19:56]<StepanKuzmin>Hi, all!
[18:20:14]<StepanKuzmin>How can I create install task from drush?
[18:21:45]<darthsteven>Do you want to add the task to the hosting task queue, or do you want to just run the drush task directly?
[18:26:18]<c_mcintosh>StepanKuzmin: hey bud how things going?
[18:28:09]<StepanKuzmin>c_mcintosh, I decide to write RESTful api for Aegir :)
[18:28:39]<StepanKuzmin>@darthsteven, I want to add task to the hosting queue
[18:31:03]<StepanKuzmin>or maybe how can I reset password from drush?
[18:31:26]<darthsteven>you'll be after the hosting_add_task() function
[18:31:49]<darthsteven>http://api.aegirproject.org/api/Hostmaster/modules--hosting--task--hosti...
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[18:32:39]<darthsteven>hosting_add_task(123, 'install', array('argument' => 'value', 'arg' => 'another value'));
[18:32:45]<darthsteven>or something like that
[18:33:18]<StepanKuzmin>123 is nid of my site?
[18:33:32]<darthsteven>yup
[18:33:37]<StepanKuzmin>ok, tahnks
[18:33:40]<StepanKuzmin>*thanks
[18:33:48]<darthsteven>no idea what arguments you might need to send
[18:34:10]<StepanKuzmin>I`ll try it :)
[18:36:08]<c_mcintosh>StepanKuzmin: in most cases i found that it was easier to create a node of site type
[18:36:45]<c_mcintosh>you may want to track: http://drupal.org/project/hostmaster_plus im finalizing and testing all of my extra modules and including a example client
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[18:36:50]<StepanKuzmin>c_mcintosh, yes, it seems right to me
[18:37:01]<c_mcintosh>maybe you could write a rest based client example as well
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[18:47:38]<omega8cc>obrienmd: thanks, it can be still improved, the feedback is appreciated
[18:48:22]<omega8cc>hefring: tell obrienmd: thanks, it can be still improved, the feedback is appreciated
[18:48:22]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when obrienmd is around.
[18:48:42]<omega8cc>hefring: tell szczym: http://drupal.org/node/1130992#comment-4365428
[18:48:42]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when szczym is around.
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[18:52:18]<omega8cc>hefring: tell recidive: we use Nginx 1.0 with Aegir 1.0, it is included in BOA v.1.0-boa-T-8
[18:52:18]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when recidive is around.
[18:52:54]<c_mcintosh>omega8cc: you know of any bandwidth quota system for nginx?
[18:54:36]<omega8cc>hefring: tell ezra-g: COD is now included in our Aegir v.1.0-boa-T-8
[18:54:36]<hefring>omega8cc: I'll pass that on when ezra-g is around.
[19:01:31]<omega8cc>c_mcintosh: no, I don't know, there is quota possible per IP but not per vhost, afaik, unless you will use some trick like explained here: http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,265
[19:01:51]<c_mcintosh>hmm
[19:01:52]<c_mcintosh>ok
[19:01:59]<c_mcintosh>ill leave that for a nginx pro
[19:02:08]<c_mcintosh>i was able to get the bandwidth stuff working for cband
[19:02:21]<c_mcintosh>on apache which in of itself was a big task
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[19:07:47]<omega8cc>c_mcintosh: it looks interesting! http://drupal.org/project/hostmaster_plus I will check how/if can we make it working on Nginx
[19:08:24]<c_mcintosh>yea
[19:08:35]<c_mcintosh>the only thing i dont think will work is the bandwidth controls
[19:08:51]<c_mcintosh>the rules, services api, and other parts are standard php / drupal api stuff
[19:11:38]<c_mcintosh>are the meetups still happening in irc like normal?
[19:12:17]<c_mcintosh>anarcat: hey took your suggestion and posted a project on drupal. now i just need to get this inital release finished
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[19:21:19]<c_mcintosh>hostmaster_rules is wrapped up
[19:29:34]<c_mcintosh>this is something that was needed anyway to make my system even more stable
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[20:10:35]<StepanKuzmin>Why, then I create site with node_save(), email sends to admin user, not to the user associated with client?
[20:11:13]<StepanKuzmin>How can I send email notification to user?
[20:11:16]<c_mcintosh>because when you create it programmatically you are saving it as admin(i am assuming your logged in as that)
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[20:11:27]<c_mcintosh>change the uid to match that of the client user
[20:11:40]<StepanKuzmin>ok, I`ll try
[20:11:50]<c_mcintosh>if your not creating users for your clients atm you will probably have to start
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[20:41:57]<StepanKuzmin>I`am creating users for my clients using client_feature
[20:42:35]<StepanKuzmin>But my code still doesn`t work correctly (sends email to admin user)
[20:42:36]<StepanKuzmin>http://pastebin.com/9rLs263Y
[20:43:06]<adrinux>gah. views updates preventing migration. time for some manual intervention
[20:58:32]<c_mcintosh>yum good soup
[20:58:38]<c_mcintosh>always good stuff for thinking
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[22:14:37]<c_mcintosh>cool beans
[22:14:46]<c_mcintosh>http://drupal.org/project/hostmaster_plus first dev version is up
[22:14:51]<c_mcintosh>watch out its toasty
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[23:26:22]<c_mcintosh>question when aegir does a refresh / cron does it call the nodeapi load op for all the sites?
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[23:31:16]<c_mcintosh>slow night in aegir
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[23:52:16]<mig5>hello all
[23:52:22]<c_mcintosh>whats up mig
[23:52:48]<mig5>not much, nice afternoon in Rennes
[23:52:53]<mig5>fighting jetlag
[23:53:00]<c_mcintosh>yea i can understand that
[23:53:19]<c_mcintosh>i still feel werid every once in a while being in ormoc, philippines from evansville, indiana
[23:55:17]<c_mcintosh>got some initial work done with hostmaster_plus
[23:55:22]<c_mcintosh>and got it up on d.org
[23:56:22]<c_mcintosh>mig5: how does aegir handle large numbers of sites, ie running cron on each hosted site?
[23:56:43]<mig5>c_mcintosh: it runs in batches of sites, which i believe you can configure at /admin/hosting/queues
[23:56:55]<c_mcintosh>hmm
[23:57:01]<mig5>there's a 'queue' api in Hosting, and the cron (and task) queues implement it
[23:57:11]<c_mcintosh>ah ok
[23:57:26]<c_mcintosh>that would probably be better than a normal hook_cron then
[23:57:35]<mig5>in modern versions of aegir, you can choose the 'cron' method (i.e, loop over each site and run 'drush cron' on them, which was the original way), or loop over them and run the 'wget' method
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[23:57:39]<mig5>which is faster
[23:57:41]<anarcat>hey mig5
[23:57:47]<anarcat>good luck with jetlag! :)
[23:57:49]<mig5>so if you use the former, because we invoke drush cron, that in turn invokes hook_cron on all modules
[23:57:52]<mig5>hey anarcat! :)
[23:57:54]* anarcat -> meeting
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[23:58:00]<c_mcintosh>ok
[23:58:08]<mig5>sorry jenkins was being a bitch anarcat, i have no idea what 'nothing to do' means
[23:58:32]<c_mcintosh>so what would you recommend, basically i need to do a check of resource use each cron run(on aegir itself) then shoot a rule event if it is over
[23:59:09]<mig5>we have a function in provision that checks resource load, and aborts the task if it's too high
[23:59:13]<mig5>you should use that, if that suits
[23:59:19]<c_mcintosh>no it doesnt
[23:59:25]<mig5>ok
[23:59:44]<c_mcintosh>i mean im implementing resource management for sites, and so when cron runs i need to do a check to see if the site is over its limit or not
[00:00:10]<c_mcintosh>like bandwidth/filespace/db
[00:00:45]<mig5>you could disable the site :)
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[00:00:52]<mig5>problem solved! :)
[00:01:12]<c_mcintosh>well that is the plan, the module would handle that automatically
[00:01:26]<c_mcintosh>then in my front end store it would give them the chance to buy more resources
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[00:02:14]<c_mcintosh>if it makes sense
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[00:03:18]<mig5>yep
[00:04:18]<c_mcintosh>well i think for now ill do a hook_cron and as i get to where i can figure something better out or it starts hanging cron ill write it up
[00:04:55]<c_mcintosh>davereid mentioned something about drupal_queue so i may check into that at some point
[00:10:33]<omega8cc>mig5: welcome in my time zone, enjoy! :)
[00:10:46]<mig5>thanks omega8cc, i thought of you while flying under warsaw :)
[00:10:53]<omega8cc>:)
[00:11:05]<mig5>21 hours in a plane is far too much..
[00:11:11]<omega8cc>ouch
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[00:13:05]<c_mcintosh>yea
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[00:19:58]<c_mcintosh>StepanKuzmin: whats up how the module coming
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[00:27:25]<StepanKuzmin>c_mcintosh, in progress :)
[00:27:48]<StepanKuzmin>I think it`ll be easy to create RESTful api for aegir
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[00:35:44]<c_mcintosh>yea
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[00:36:01]<c_mcintosh>does services api not support a rest server?
[00:36:25]<anarcat>mig5: it's okay - i think it's the git integration that was being too smart for its own good
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[00:44:45]<StepanKuzmin>i don`t know exactly
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[02:47:08]<hefring>community => Crazy Aegir Ideas 1: Aegir Hostmaster module for DrushMake.me => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/crazy-aegir-ideas-1-aegir-host...
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[04:15:31]<kepford>Been testing the ageir debian repo
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[04:19:42]<kepford>Getting this on Ubuntu 10.04 with apt-get install aegir. I have read to docs. I've probably missed something
[04:19:43]<kepford>The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:19:43]<kepford> aegir: Depends: aegir-provision but it is not going to be installed
[04:19:43]<kepford> Depends: aegir-hostmaster but it is not going to be installed
[04:19:44]<kepford>E: Broken packages
[04:23:10]<kepford>So it appears that my issue is that Drush is not being installed properly.
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[04:31:27]<anarcat>kepford: yes
[04:31:42]<anarcat>kepford: have you setup the PPA correctly?
[04:32:24]<kepford>yeah. I missed that. I had the lucid package which is drush v 2. I think
[04:32:31]<anarcat>ow :)
[04:33:24]<kepford>Aegir needs Drush 3.x right?
[04:34:34]<kepford>Nope 4.4
[04:37:53]<anarcat>4.3
[04:37:57]<anarcat>but yeah, works with 4.4
[04:38:13]<anarcat>i guess it *could* work with 3.3, but i am not sure
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[04:40:00]<kepford>anarcat: I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 and if I want to use apt-get to install/maintain drush what should I do. Looks like the lucid is pulling 2.x I want to drush 4.x
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[04:41:55]<kepford>I'm still pretty wet behind the ears with sysadmin stuff
[04:43:04]<anarcat>kepford: you need to follow the instructions :P
[04:43:22]<anarcat>kepford: http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/debian#Adding_backports
[04:43:32]<anarcat>kepford: the line where it says "Ubuntu 10.04" in bold :P
[04:43:33]<kepford>I know. I have and I am following them
[04:43:39]<anarcat>sudo add-apt-repository ppa:brianmercer/drush
[04:43:47]<kepford>I know I'm missing something
[04:44:07]<kepford>I will try that again.
[04:44:14]<anarcat>ah
[04:44:17]<anarcat>you did that already?
[04:44:22]<anarcat>maybe the PPA is broken...
[04:44:38]<kepford>maybe.
[04:45:48]<kepford>gpg: key 8D0DC64F: "Launchpad Brian's PPA" not changed
[04:46:05]<kepford>Looks like my PPA isn't working
[04:46:52]<kepford>Doing this work on a Virtualbox VM
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[04:50:46]<kepford>anarcat: If my memory serves me, I think I've had issues with using PPA's before. Wonder if it's our firewall.
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[05:09:33]<jamiemcclelland>hi all. i'm working my way through an aegir install via the debian packages provides by http://debian.koumbit.net/debian and seem to have hit an error in the aegir-hostmaster postinstall script
[05:09:52]<jamiemcclelland>here's the output with set -x : http://pastebin.com/HyGV5S8n
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[05:10:25]<jamiemcclelland>Drush command terminated abnormally due to an unrecoverable error. Error: Unsupported operand types in /usr/share/drush/includes/environment.inc, line 895
[05:10:34]<jamiemcclelland>any suggestions?
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[05:13:58]<anarcat>ow
[05:14:22]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: note that this paste leaks mysql credentials
[05:14:32]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: PROVISION_SITE_INSTALLED [error]
[05:14:36]<jamiemcclelland>ah crap. thanks for pointing that out. i will change
[05:14:48]<anarcat>sorry :/
[05:14:54]<anarcat>we should use dbconfig-common... \
[05:14:59]<anarcat>i think it fixes that problem
[05:15:06]<hefring>community => Crazy Aegir Ideas 2: The Aegir Graph or Aegir Ecology Design & Mapping => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/crazy-aegir-ideas-2-aegir-grap...
[05:15:06]<jamiemcclelland>the credentials
[05:15:07]<anarcat>but regardless
[05:15:11]<anarcat>yes
[05:15:15]<anarcat>so
[05:15:19]<anarcat>about your problem
[05:15:27]<anarcat>it seems to be saying that the site is already installed
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[05:15:43]<anarcat>so that means that it tried to install it before and then failed and then tried to run postinst again and failed because it found a site
[05:15:45]<anarcat>so
[05:16:01]<anarcat>there should be moer information upwards in that log
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[05:16:47]<jamiemcclelland>that makes some sense. I did the full aegir install last wee, but didn't test. then today ran aptitude update and aptitude dist-upgrade
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[05:17:01]<anarcat>[offtopic] April 19, 2011. At 20:11 Skynet goes online: http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/2011/04/19
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[05:17:12]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: crap :/
[05:17:27]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: so the way the debian package tells if you already have a aegir site is this:
[05:17:31]<anarcat>drush @hostmaster status
[05:17:35]<jamiemcclelland>i pulled in a new version and for some reason replaced apache2-mpm-worker with apache2-mpm-prefork, making me think something went wrong last week that I didn't notice.
[05:17:45]<anarcat>so run that now
[05:17:48]<anarcat>drush @hostmaster status
[05:17:52]<anarcat>as the aegir user
[05:18:22]<jamiemcclelland>similar error: Fatal error: Unsupported operand types in /usr/share/drush/includes/environment.inc on line 897
[05:18:35]<anarcat>right
[05:18:44]<anarcat>so that means the install was destroyed or never succeeeded somehow
[05:18:50]<anarcat>do you have data in there you want to save?
[05:19:10]<jamiemcclelland>i think i should change mysql root password, aptitude purge aegir and then aptitude install aegir
[05:19:15]<anarcat>if you can trash this install, i would recommend doing so and starting again from scratch: http://community.aegirproject.org/uninstalling
[05:19:15]<jamiemcclelland>nope - nothing to save
[05:19:25]<jamiemcclelland>ok. thanks.
[05:19:29]<anarcat>aptitude purge aegir doesn't cleanup /everything/, i think i still have to tweak some things in there
[05:19:34]<anarcat>but testing on that would be appreciated
[05:19:41]<anarcat>not like i do that every day :P
[05:19:47]<anarcat>(purging aegir, that is)
[05:20:16]<jamiemcclelland>lol. ok. here goes...
[05:20:19]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: good luck! glad to see you're trying it out :)
[05:20:32]<anarcat>and yeah, if you can have env DEBUG=yes aptitude purge aegir
[05:20:40]<anarcat>a dump of ^^, that is
[05:20:49]<anarcat>(DEBUG=yes turns on -x and debugging output of drush)
[05:22:53]<jamiemcclelland>hrm. DEBUG=yes didn't seem to generate any extra output
[05:23:07]<jamiemcclelland>ah - crap. sorry, forgot to put env in front of it.
[05:26:15]<jamiemcclelland>no database insertions were made - i think the problem is that during my initial install, when prompted for the root mysql db password, i just clicked through since mysql was being installed at the same time.
[05:27:14]<jamiemcclelland>after purging, I had to: rm -rf /var/aegir, deluser aegir and rm /etc/apache2/conf.d/aegir.conf
[05:27:27]<anarcat>i see
[05:27:35]<anarcat>i guess we should at least purge the apache config and the user
[05:27:42]<anarcat>not sur about rm -rf 'ing the /var/aegir dir
[05:27:46]<anarcat>what do you think?
[05:28:30]<jamiemcclelland>i wonder what mysql does about remaining databases?
[05:28:37]<anarcat>i think it asks you
[05:28:38]<jamiemcclelland>seems like a similar situation
[05:28:45]<anarcat>but that's *haaaard* ... ;)
[05:28:53]<jamiemcclelland>i would expect it to rm -rf /var/aegir
[05:28:59]<jamiemcclelland>(personally)
[05:29:02]<anarcat>i guess we should at least delete the aegir site
[05:29:06]<anarcat>problem is that's not enough
[05:29:11]<jamiemcclelland>but I know it's better to be conservative about deleting dagta.
[05:29:13]<anarcat>because the sites in /var/aegir may have created DBs
[05:29:22]<anarcat>so you'd need to provision-delete every site
[05:29:30]<anarcat>and that is, again, haaaaard. ;)
[05:29:48]<anarcat>but yeah, i think you're right
[05:29:56]<anarcat>and anyways, installing in /var/aegir isn't exactly debian-kosher
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[05:46:24]<jamiemcclelland>anarcat: hm. after purging and re-installing, i get the Configuring aegir-hostmaster prompt for the root MySQL user database server password. I paste in the password, i get it again. I paste again and then I get dpkg error Unknown id: aegir.
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[05:52:07]<jamiemcclelland>aha. i purged aegir aegir-hostmaster *and* aegir-provision.
[05:52:39]<jamiemcclelland>now i'm back to the original Error: Unsupported operand types error :(
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[05:57:10]<jamiemcclelland>for the record, when I aptitude purge aegir aegir-provision aegir-hostmaster the only manual step I seem to have to take is rm -rf /var/aegir
[05:59:53]<jamiemcclelland>hm. for kicks i tried apt-get install aegir instead of aptitude install and got a different error
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[06:00:10]<jamiemcclelland>from drush: The jQuery UI plugin is missing. Download and extract it to your [error]
[06:00:13]<jamiemcclelland>jquery_ui module directory. See README.txt for more info. (Currently
[06:00:16]<jamiemcclelland>using jQuery UI Not found)
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[06:08:23]<anarcat>alright
[06:08:32]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: i h ave zillions of things in parallel here, sorry if i lag
[06:08:39]<anarcat>Error: Unsupported operand types error
[06:08:42]<anarcat>that's just a symptom
[06:08:52]<jamiemcclelland>yeah - i think i found a higher level error
[06:08:53]<anarcat>there's a bigger problem you should see earlier in the log, the root cause
[06:09:04]<anarcat>and always run in env DEBUG=yes when you're... well, debugging
[06:09:22]<anarcat>i'm thinking of hardcoding that in the scripts for now, because we find so many weird edge cases
[06:09:22]<jamiemcclelland> from drush: The jQuery UI plugin is missing. Download and extract it to your [error]
[06:09:28]<jamiemcclelland>jquery_ui module directory. See README.txt for more info. (Currently
[06:09:32]<jamiemcclelland> using jQuery UI Not found)
[06:10:26]<jamiemcclelland>(i get that when i run apt-get install aegir as opposed to aptitude install aegir)
[06:11:24]<anarcat>okay, that's weird
[06:11:35]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: maybe your hostmaster platform wasn't created properly
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[06:11:55]<anarcat>you should have jquery_ui and the plugin installed in /var/aegir/hosmater-1.0/profiles/hostmaster/modules/jquery_ui
[06:12:18]<jamiemcclelland>hm. above that line is:
[06:12:19]<jamiemcclelland>Created aegirourpowerbas database [success]
[06:12:19]<jamiemcclelland>Table &#039;aegirourpowerbas.system&#039; doesn&#039;t exist [warning]
[06:12:19]<jamiemcclelland>query: SELECT filename FROM system WHERE name = &#039;jquery_ui&#039;
[06:12:19]<jamiemcclelland>AND type = &#039;module&#039; database.mysqli.inc:135
[06:12:22]<jamiemcclelland>Table &#039;aegirourpowerbas.url_alias&#039; doesn&#039;t exist [warning]
[06:12:24]<jamiemcclelland>query: SELECT COUNT(pid) FROM url_alias database.mysqli.inc:135
[06:12:27]<jamiemcclelland>PROVISION_INSTALL_MISSING_REQUIREMENTS
[06:12:30]<jamiemcclelland>and when I manually go into mysql, there is no database
[06:12:37]<jamiemcclelland>so i think perhaps the problem is in the database creation
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[06:13:23]<anarcat>wtf
[06:13:32]<anarcat>yeah, maybe
[06:13:38]<anarcat>but if it says the DB is created...
[06:13:44]<anarcat>maybe the grants are not created properly?
[06:13:50]<anarcat>are you running with env DEBUG=yes?
[06:13:56]<anarcat>you should have notices in there if so
[06:14:00]<jamiemcclelland>yes .
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[06:14:27]<jamiemcclelland>shall I email you full output?
[06:15:01]<jamiemcclelland>which step creates the database? does drush do that? or is it an earlier step?
[06:15:33]<jamiemcclelland>hm. is drush invoked with the root user/password?
[06:15:52]<anarcat>pastebin it
[06:16:06]<anarcat>drush hostmaster-install creates the DB
[06:16:18]<anarcat>or more precisely, hostmaster-install calls provision-install which creates the DB and grants
[06:16:29]<anarcat>and yes, drush is invoked with the root creds through stdin
[06:17:44]<jamiemcclelland>i will change db password now...
[06:17:48]<jamiemcclelland>http://pastebin.com/G47LUrQa
[06:17:49]<anarcat>hehe
[06:17:51]<anarcat>sorry about that :)
[06:18:09]<anarcat>we used to recommend people create a new root user just for aegir, but that was hard for newbies so we just told people to use the regular root user
[06:18:21]<anarcat>but then aegir keeps that password in a few places, so you may want to create another user for that
[06:19:29]<mvc>jamiemcclelland: hey, matt corks here. i'm glad to see you're trying out aegir :)
[06:19:40]<jamiemcclelland>hey matt - nice to see you :)
[06:20:28]<jamiemcclelland>i have to run in a few minutes... perhaps we can continue this debugging tomorrow?
[06:20:36]<anarcat>of course!
[06:20:52]<anarcat>hopefully other people than me can also help you here while i'm not around :)
[06:21:04]<anarcat>although aegir's install process is legendary for being mysterious ;)
[06:21:11]<jamiemcclelland>lol
[06:21:39]<anarcat>and feedback/contributions for the documentation is always welcome!
[06:21:53]<anarcat>ergonlogic & darthsteven are our docs team right now
[06:22:38]<jamiemcclelland>ok. will do. ciao for now.
[06:22:42]<ergonlogic>always welcome!
[06:23:35]<anarcat>ciao!
[06:23:50]<anarcat>comar: you just found our first release critical bug of 1.0! :)
[06:23:54]<anarcat>comar: http://drupal.org/node/1132514
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[06:33:58]<anarcat>hefring: tell mig5 it would be nice to have openid in jenkins - https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/OpenID+plugin
[06:33:58]<hefring>anarcat: I'll pass that on when mig5 is around.
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[06:50:10]<anarcat>alright, this hits 1.x
[06:50:23]<anarcat>oops
[06:50:28]<anarcat>also merged in exportable backups :p
[06:50:28]<anarcat>sorry
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[07:29:06]<anarcat>scrum in 30min
[07:29:08]<anarcat>iirc
[07:29:45]<anarcat>darthsteven mig5 ergonlogic Vertice EclipseGc ergonlogic mvc omega8cc sfyn shrop skwashd : scrum in 30 minutes
[07:34:37]<omega8cc>anarcat: sweet, I'm tracking now 2.x branch
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[07:55:20]<anarcat>scrum in 5
[07:59:12]<anarcat>alright people
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[08:00:03]<omega8cc>hello :)
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[08:00:51]<anarcat>alright, welcome everybody to our weekly scrum
[08:01:04]<anarcat>i'm your host for this week and we have a wonderful agenda :)
[08:01:09]<anarcat>enough with the bull
[08:01:14]<anarcat>1.0 IS RELEASED!!!!!
[08:01:17]<anarcat>YEEHAAA! :)
[08:01:24]<mvc>:)
[08:01:26]<darthsteven>YEAH!!!
[08:01:26]<anarcat>*AND* we have found our first RC bug!
[08:01:33]<anarcat>http://drupal.org/node/1132514
[08:01:38]<anarcat>d5 migrations are fucked! :)
[08:01:42]<anarcat>so that's already fixed and great
[08:01:48]<anarcat>and i am thinking of making 1.1 already
[08:02:06]<anarcat>also, we found a low-hanging fruit here to make exportable backups easy: http://drupal.org/node/1047992
[08:02:17]<anarcat>and i merged this in by mistake in 1.x, but now i think i won't revert it
[08:02:36]<anarcat>http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/patch/1edd757f95b3f86a84ba72...
[08:02:43]<anarcat>if anyone opposes, feel free to revert
[08:03:03]<anarcat>it's not an API change, and it's a nice quick fix to have people with SFTP access able to download backups of their sites
[08:03:09]<anarcat>so i think it would be nice to get this in
[08:03:18]<anarcat>koumbit is now running 1.0 in production
[08:03:35]<anarcat>and we're going to test head 1.x tomorrow, and if that works well we'll release 1.1
[08:03:46]<anarcat>what else, what else
[08:04:04]<anarcat>did i mention we have a candidate student for the summer of code?
[08:04:16]<anarcat>http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/sdv_3...
[08:04:19]<anarcat>here, i mentionned it
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[08:04:24]<anarcat>results should be announced somewhere next week
[08:04:33]<anarcat>his focus would be on the d7 port and maybe dns
[08:04:40]<anarcat>so i decided to hold off on those tasks for now
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[08:04:55]<anarcat>i will however look more at inter site security
[08:04:57]<darthsteven>all very cool
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[08:05:09]<anarcat>and queueing, and i'd like to talk with darthsteven about that, but prolly more next week
[08:05:16]<anarcat>so that's about it for me
[08:05:49]<anarcat>mig5 darthsteven ergonlogic mvc omega8cc sfyn shrop skwashd - something to add to our weekly scrum?
[08:05:55]<darthsteven>yup
[08:06:20]<anarcat>oh, and of course, i forgot: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/2x-branch-created 2.x is opened for dev, and i merged the chained cert support there
[08:06:33]<darthsteven>I've just come from a Drupal Meetup where I saw that drupal 5 migration bug demoed
[08:06:42]<darthsteven>and now I know what caused it
[08:06:44]<darthsteven>:)
[08:06:58]<anarcat>and now you can tell them it's fixed already :)_
[08:07:17]<darthsteven>So I took a look at at patch to add SSL chained certificates to provision
[08:07:32]<darthsteven>It needed a bit of cleanup, but was okay
[08:07:43]<anarcat>i agree, and merged it into 2.x
[08:08:06]<darthsteven>I think I added some docs since the last scrum, and ergonlogic got the api.c.o site working
[08:08:36]<darthsteven>ermm...that's it for me, nothing else Aegir related really
[08:08:45]<darthsteven>hoping to write more docs though...
[08:08:51]<darthsteven>done
[08:08:55]<darthsteven>anyone else?
[08:09:09]<anarcat>cool
[08:09:22]<anarcat>omega8cc: ?
[08:09:35]<anarcat>omega8cc: you mentionned something about tracking 2.x, can you expand on that?
[08:09:36]<omega8cc>I released Barracuda/Octopus 1.0-boa-T-8 with Aegir 1.0
[08:10:08]<omega8cc>anarcat: just switched to 2.x to continue with patches related to Nginx
[08:10:22]<anarcat>i am, in general, a bit worried that we won't get as much testing on 2.x than we have on 1.x now that 1.x is declared stable, but i'll try to run 2.x on my home server - we were also thinking of running 2.x on a dev server at koumbit, but that has yet to happen
[08:10:26]<anarcat>omega8cc: cool, nice to hear
[08:11:04]<omega8cc>anarcat: I will use 2.x in Barracuda head, so people will test it and I hope to get more feedback
[08:11:08]<anarcat>cool
[08:11:31]<anarcat>i was thinking of reworking the platform access control for april, we set that as a target, so maybe that will land in 2.x and maybe get merged in 1.x if it doesn't break any apis
[08:11:41]<omega8cc>interesting that 5.x to 6.x to 7.x migrations worked for me
[08:11:48]<anarcat>i am still looking for ways to radically change 2.x so that it's really different from 1.x :P
[08:12:01]<omega8cc>but I tested it only on basic core installs
[08:12:07]<anarcat>i see
[08:12:12]<anarcat>nice to hear anyways :)
[08:12:13]<ryanarmstrong>anarcat: cross-site stats :P
[08:12:21]<ryanarmstrong>*goes back into the background*
[08:13:25]<anarcat>oh, darthsteven - this could use some more eyes as it touches on the context/services stuff that you may be familiar with: http://drupal.org/node/1074966
[08:13:41]<anarcat>omega8cc: thanks for your feedback
[08:13:44]<anarcat>anyone else?
[08:13:54]<anarcat>ryanarmstrong: you'll have to expand on that after the scrum :)
[08:14:03]<ryanarmstrong>will do, didn't want to derail :)
[08:14:07]<omega8cc>we need UI improved in 2.x, I will submit patches soon, and will propose Fetaures integration etc
[08:14:17]<anarcat>omega8cc: great idea!
[08:14:31]<anarcat>omega8cc: one idea about features was to drop our idea of "features" in favor of features.module
[08:14:38]<darthsteven>anarcat: yeah I saw that, and it is on my radar, but I've not used any of the DNS stuff, but could look at the code anyways
[08:14:57]<omega8cc>right, and move install profile to profiler
[08:15:06]<omega8cc>maybe
[08:15:10]<anarcat>omega8cc: yeah
[08:15:20]<anarcat>omega8cc: ergonlogic was saying it was a good upgrade path to d7
[08:15:33]<anarcat>alright
[08:15:35]<omega8cc>anarcat: yes, noticed that
[08:15:47]<anarcat>we're pretty much done here, thanks for attending our scrum session and see you next week!
[08:16:02]<darthsteven>I'm not sure that converting to features features would get us much, as we don't use CCK/fields
[08:16:07]<anarcat>anyone wants to upload this log to the com site?
[08:16:26]<darthsteven>will do
[08:16:28]<anarcat>darthsteven: indeed..
[08:16:31]<anarcat>darthsteven: cool! tx
[08:16:59]<anarcat>darthsteven: as for the dns issue, it's not as much for the DNS but for the part where he changes the way config information is stored in the services objects
[08:17:03]<anarcat>hairy stuff
[08:17:09]<anarcat>alright, scrum end!
[08:17:21]<anarcat>ryanarmstrong: what do you mean cross-site stats?
[08:18:25]<ryanarmstrong>Well stats would be just one example, but it would be great if Aegir had the ability to look at sites as a whole or drill down to individual sites, and stats would be one implimentation of that
[08:18:34]<omega8cc>darthsteven: but we want to move to entities in d7 and features will help us to export and maintain UI and similar changes/improvements without hardcoding it in the core
[08:18:41]<ryanarmstrong>So for example, I could see traffic across my aegir server
[08:18:44]<anarcat>ryanarmstrong: there's the idea of having a stats queue
[08:18:51]<anarcat>ryanarmstrong: we already collect information about sites
[08:18:59]<anarcat>ryanarmstrong: that too
[08:19:13]<darthsteven>omega8cc: sure
[08:19:15]<anarcat>mvc worked on that, actually - we almost got it ready, but got stuck in hairy api issues
[08:19:23]<anarcat>we're likely to look at this again this summer
[08:20:39]<ryanarmstrong>Is that anywhere in the frontend? Perhaps I just missed something
[08:21:23]<omega8cc>darthsteven: but yes, moving our features to Features could help only if we will start using cck/fields in d7 probably
[08:21:54]<anarcat>ryanarmstrong: not yet
[08:22:07]<anarcat>omega8cc: we should start using fields in d7
[08:22:13]<anarcat>but i'm not sure features would help with that
[08:22:21]<darthsteven>omega8cc: features can get very icky very quickly if we don't build them smart
[08:22:25]<ryanarmstrong>Well that's cool that the underlying functionality is already there.
[08:22:26]<anarcat>hopefully, that gsoc student will do a lot of groundwork there
[08:22:54]<darthsteven>omega8cc: we'll end up with a lot of features, and most won't be the high levels ones we want
[08:25:03]<omega8cc>darthsteven: right, but we can include only "certified to rock" features and all the rest can live in the optional contrib space on community fserver maybe, so community can work on improving them
[08:26:50]<darthsteven>no, I mean that if you features right, you end up with tons of features, that contain just a single field, or a single view or something
[08:27:03]<darthsteven>*you do features right
[08:27:09]<darthsteven>log up at: http://community.aegirproject.org/scrums/weekly-scrum-irc-log-2011-04-19
[08:27:16]<darthsteven>scrum?
[08:27:16]<hefring>Every Tuesday at 22h00 UTC: 15h00 San Francisco, USA (PST), 18h00 Montreal, Canada (EDT), 23h00 London, UK (CET), 08h00 (Wednesday) Melbourne, Australia (EST)
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[08:30:45]<darthsteven>hefring: scrum is <reply>Every Tuesday at 22h00 UTC: 15h00 San Francisco, USA (PST), 18h00 Montreal, Canada (EDT), 23h00 London, UK (CET), 08h00 (Wednesday) Melbourne, Australia (EST) - Past scrum logs are here: http://community.aegirproject.org/scrums
[08:30:45]<hefring>darthsteven: Okay.
[08:30:49]<darthsteven>scrum?
[08:30:49]<hefring>Every Tuesday at 22h00 UTC: 15h00 San Francisco, USA (PST), 18h00 Montreal, Canada (EDT), 23h00 London, UK (CET), 08h00 (Wednesday) Melbourne, Australia (EST) - Past scrum logs are here: http://community.aegirproject.org/scrums
[08:31:01]<omega8cc>darthsteven: features done at the very low "atomic" level are not really useful, imo, they add just another layer of complexity if done on that level, so it needs some good balance to still benefit from using it instead of just hardcoding stuff in the core/install profile
[08:32:14]<darthsteven>omega8cc: sure, but it's very easy to end up with feature dependency issues or not being able to revert features, etc.
[08:32:22]<darthsteven>omega8cc: it's a balance for sure though
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[08:33:43]<jackbravo>is nginx supported on the debian packages?
[08:34:18]<anarcat>jackbravo: not yet, want to help? :)
[08:34:33]<jackbravo>sure :P, what would I need to do?
[08:35:04]<omega8cc>darthsteven: right, anyway, I'm already using it and will start porting my one big combo used in Octopus to more atomic parts, mainly for UI improvements first
[08:36:59]<jackbravo>anarcat, I do have nginx running with aegir. Manual install. Where can I see the files used to create the .deb for current package?
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[09:36:13]<anarcat>hehe, that's funny, that should have failed, actually :P
[09:36:16]<anarcat>yay for error handling
[09:36:25]<anarcat>upcoming actually fix the error handling so it fails properly
[09:36:41]<anarcat>jackbravo: the debian branch in the provision package
[09:37:06]<anarcat>jackbravo: http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/shortlog/refs/heads/debian
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