IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-04-20 (GMT)

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[11:03:21]<skwashd>mig5, ping
[11:09:11]<yuracagran>I got some trouble during upgrade to 1.0. http://pastebin.com/bnCk3aKe Sites are working, except hostmaster. Is that good idea If I run upgrade.sh again?
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[11:17:11]<boztek>Anyone here have experience migrating and cloning large sites between platforms on different continents? I'm trying to get a setup with a hostmaster that's in US and a web server in AUS.
[11:17:33]<boztek>My main question is - is there a difference in how the migrate process transfers a db vs how a site clone does?
[11:17:49]<boztek>I'm still a bit shady on the exact process. Do we have docs yet?
[11:18:50]<boztek>e.g. if migrating from remote to same remote does the sites folder get backed up, rsynced back to hostmaster and then provision-deploy ran on it to deploy backup back to the remote server?
[11:20:49]<snlnz>yuracagran: have you checked your vhost file in /var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhosts/ ?? Make sure this corresponds to where the hostmaster install resides I.e: /var/aegir/hostmaster/
[11:21:30]<snlnz>yuracagrn: in fact when you do a apachectl testconfig you should get an error if you're vhost file isn't correct
[11:22:25]<snlnz>apache2ctl restart - rather
[11:34:47]<yuracagran>snlnz, thanks fixed. vhost file got server's main IP instead private IP
[11:37:01]<snlnz>no worries glad I actually helped someone!! :)
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[11:43:20]<c_mcintosh>hey gang
[11:43:34]<c_mcintosh>anarcat: i really got to start getting in on those scrums
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[11:43:48]<c_mcintosh>realityloop: hey
[11:44:02]<realityloop>c_mcintosh: heya
[11:46:58]<c_mcintosh>got a initial release up yesterday
[11:47:08]<c_mcintosh>although i found bugs in it about an hour after I posted
[11:47:09]<c_mcintosh>lol
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[12:04:49]<c_mcintosh>realityloop you got any experience being a maintainer on drupal org
[12:05:12]<realityloop>c_mcintosh: yep.. you have some questions?
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[12:05:38]<c_mcintosh>just about the release system
[12:05:55]<realityloop>shoot
[12:06:06]<c_mcintosh>i put up a dev release, can i make commits to that, or do i need to create a new release in order for people to get the latest dev stuff
[12:06:43]<c_mcintosh>nm got it answered via contribe channel
[12:06:44]<c_mcintosh>lol
[12:06:52]<realityloop>no.. updates will make it to the release.. can take up to 12 hours for the changes to be visible in the download tho
[12:07:16]<c_mcintosh>ah ok
[12:07:27]<c_mcintosh>so doing a nightly build is not too bad of an idea then
[12:07:44]<c_mcintosh>things with the modules are really fluid so it does not seem to make sense to make a mess of releases
[12:08:27]<realityloop>thats what dev is for..
[12:08:37]<realityloop>"here be dragons" :P
[12:08:44]<c_mcintosh>yea
[12:08:46]<c_mcintosh>very much so
[12:08:59]<c_mcintosh>but it does feel good to have those modules up there
[12:09:06]<c_mcintosh>will push me to get them super clean
[12:09:16]<boztek>Can anyone enlighten me on how the migrate process (a la http://community.aegirproject.org/node/23) is executed in a remote server world particularly around site database movements?
[12:09:32]<c_mcintosh>its magic
[12:09:50]<realityloop>c_mcintosh: as somone with a vested interest.. I say go for it :P
[12:10:00]<c_mcintosh>yea
[12:10:09]<c_mcintosh>i really like the whole resource management
[12:10:23]<c_mcintosh>but i think i may have to do some dev work on the mod_cband for apache
[12:10:34]<c_mcintosh>it looks like it resets the scoreboard after apache resets
[12:10:57]<c_mcintosh>could be a setting i got in my apache files on dev though
[12:11:33]<c_mcintosh>realityloop: if you know any magic stuff on nginx for bandwidth control / onitoring let me know and ill try to work it in
[12:11:52]<realityloop>c_mcintosh: I haven't played with nginx at all yet
[12:11:59]<c_mcintosh>yea me either
[12:12:10]<c_mcintosh>mainly why im only supporting apache for the moment
[12:13:10]<c_mcintosh>i think i may also propose a patch for aegir so that it starts tracking db names of the sites it hosts
[12:13:30]<c_mcintosh>the way i am doing it may not be 100% fool proof if someone imports an existing site
[12:13:39]<realityloop>c_mcintosh: I found something last night that may be of interest then :) http://getmnpp.org/
[12:14:27]<c_mcintosh>very
[12:14:35]<realityloop>c_mcintosh: thats assuming you use OSX for desk/laptop
[12:14:40]<c_mcintosh>ill have to get my Mac Virtual Machine up and running and try it
[12:14:46]<c_mcintosh>realityloop: no atm windows 7
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[12:15:39]<c_mcintosh>im trying to stay away from the Mac koolaide, and until Adobe gets off their high horse and builds a linux version of their stuff im stuck
[12:16:02]<realityloop>c_mcintosh: ah.. yeah I read a good article about why linux is good for dev
[12:16:07]<realityloop>last night
[12:16:32]<c_mcintosh>yea right now im running linux in a virtualbox in seamless mode
[12:16:38]<c_mcintosh>so i get the benefits of both
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[12:22:56]<c_mcintosh>realityloop: its nice because the the low resources you can get away with using on it, plus you got things like eclipse that provide a real powerful ide
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[12:23:18]<realityloop>I need to learn vim first
[12:23:24]<c_mcintosh>lol
[12:23:28]<c_mcintosh>i use vi
[12:23:37]<c_mcintosh>sometimes
[12:23:43]<realityloop>c_mcintosh: I can virtualise windows and linux on my mac.. one of the reasons that I went mac
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[12:23:53]<c_mcintosh>yea
[12:24:05]<c_mcintosh>i am doing the same, just using virtual box from sun
[12:24:20]<realityloop>I rarely need to resort to VM nowdays tho..
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[12:24:42]<c_mcintosh>i like it because i can put the vmachines in my truecrypt and post that to github, free backup solution :)
[12:24:55]<realityloop>the article I mentioned mainly said not so easy to get fullscreen vi with mouse bindings so you can resize things.. that was where linux trumped
[12:25:16]<c_mcintosh>yea
[12:27:11]<c_mcintosh>did you see livethemer is up for beta now
[12:27:18]<c_mcintosh>i downloaded the module and base theme today
[12:27:25]<c_mcintosh>need to try it out later after paid work is donw
[12:27:27]<c_mcintosh>done
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[12:32:34]<c_mcintosh>ugh
[12:32:36]<c_mcintosh>secure pages
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[12:37:51]<realityloop>I saw.. haven't had time to look yet..
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[14:04:03]<mig5>hey skwashd
[14:04:03]<hefring>mig5: 7 hours 30 min ago <anarcat> tell mig5 it would be nice to have openid in jenkins - https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/OpenID+plugin
[14:04:20]<mig5>sorry i missed the scrum anarcat, darthsteven, omega8cc.. jetlag crashed me at 9pm
[14:04:26]<mig5>and woke me up at 4am.. :)
[14:04:27]<anarcat>hey dude
[14:04:29]<anarcat>it's ok :)
[14:04:34]<anarcat>goooood morning france !:)
[14:04:39]<mig5>hehe
[14:04:56]<mig5>openid, bonne idee, je le ferai
[14:05:00]<anarcat>cool
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[14:07:04]<mig5>c'est fait :)
[14:07:23]<mig5>so aegir 1.1, that's exciting
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[14:09:14]<anarcat>yeah!
[14:09:26]<anarcat>des idees sur ce qu'on devrait mettre dedans?
[14:09:58]<mig5>hmmm
[14:10:17]<mig5>exportable backups, pas de probleme la
[14:11:12]<anarcat>j'espere :)
[14:11:25]<anarcat>faut vraiment que je teste en prod
[14:11:26]<mig5>super que nous avons un etudiant GSOC
[14:11:44]<anarcat>c'est pas encore fait! on va avoir les nouvelles la semaine prochaine
[14:12:04]<mig5>cool
[14:13:14]<mig5>omega8cc: i've begun taking photos for you :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/mig5/collections/72157626532041636/
[14:13:20]<mig5>not many yet
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[14:19:05]<Egyptian[Laptop]>evening - i am getting this error all the time while installing hostmaster /home/aegir/.drush/provision/provision.drush.inc
[14:19:20]<Egyptian[Laptop]>Error: Call to undefined function posix_getpwuid() in
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[14:23:54]<mig5>what version of php?
[14:24:12]<anarcat>and operating system
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[14:26:47]<mig5>mmkay
[14:29:09]<anarcat>that was easy
[14:29:36]<mig5>haha yep, skynet marked it as fixed, deleted the user
[14:29:55]<anarcat>great!
[14:30:01]<anarcat>btw, skynet came online today
[14:30:07]<mig5>whaaaat
[14:30:43]<anarcat>yeah
[14:30:50]<mig5>oh in the film
[14:30:53]<anarcat>yeah :)
[14:31:15]<mig5>and the actress who played sarah jane smith in doctor who, died
[14:31:18]<mig5>coincidence..?
[14:32:58]<anarcat>I DON"T THINK SO!
[14:33:47]<mig5>fffuuuu
[14:34:30]<mig5>should have released aegir 1.0 on april 19 :)
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[14:40:54]<anarcat>yeah
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[15:02:52]<AntiNSA>I have just downloaeded annd installed the newest octopus boa and am installing drupal 6 and see noow 3 platform options 6.20 D P S
[15:03:04]<AntiNSA>what is the difference between D and P and S?
[15:03:12]<AntiNSA>this is something new.....
[15:03:47]<AntiNSA>Im trying to install right now so it would be cool if I could get a quick answer
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[15:06:37]<AntiNSA>please tell me.. is d-dev and p-public and s-ssl ?
[15:06:54]<AntiNSA>!seen omega8cc
[15:07:05]<AntiNSA>seen omega8cc
[15:07:05]<hefring>omega8cc was last seen in #aegir 6 hours 32 min ago saying 'd_arthsteven: right, anyway, I'm already using it and will start porting my one big combo used in Octopus to more atomic parts, mainly for UI improvements first'.
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[15:11:43]<c_mcintosh>DPS = damage per second
[15:11:48]<AntiNSA>hefring tell omega8cc What are the three different platform versions of pressflow/drupal 6 on the lates octopus build? Is 6.20 D -dev P-Public and S-SSL ???? I cant find any info about this....
[15:11:48]<hefring>AntiNSA: I'll pass that on when omega8cc is around.
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[15:17:10]<AntiNSA>ok I see the new system.
[15:17:26]<AntiNSA>is there a difference between prod and stage as far as the server goes?
[15:17:48]<AntiNSA>is stage meant for public?
[15:17:57]<AntiNSA>is there a difference in caching?
[15:18:50]<AntiNSA> Nginx server upgraded to version Barracuda/1.0.0
[15:18:50]<AntiNSA>* Basic Drupal 6 and Drupal 7 platforms now come in three instances,
[15:18:51]<AntiNSA> to make your standard workflow easier for: -dev, -stage and -prod,
[15:18:51]<AntiNSA> with correct suffix: D.00x, S.00x and P.00x in the platform name.
[15:22:03]<c_mcintosh>dev is developing new features
[15:22:24]<c_mcintosh>stage is where you migrate a copy of live data and test new features before moving it to production
[15:22:30]<c_mcintosh>production is the live site
[15:46:27]<AntiNSA>got it. thanks!
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[16:31:27]<anarcat>mig5: <sigh> ... the openid plugins for jenkins doesn't like Drupal's OpenID_Provider module :/
[16:31:34]<anarcat>org.openid4java.discovery.DiscoveryException: 0x70d: Error parsing XML document
[16:31:37]<anarcat>Caused by: org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: cvc-complex-type.2.4.a: Invalid content was found starting with element 'Type'. One of '{"xri://$xrd*($v*2.0)":Query, "xri://$xrd*($v*2.0)":Status, "xri://$xrd*($v*2.0)":ServerStatus, "xri://$xrd*($v*2.0)":Expires, "xri://$xrd*($v*2.0)":ProviderID, "xri://$xrd*($v*2.0)":Redirect, "xri://$xrd*($v*2.0)":Ref, "xri://$xrd*($v*2.0)":LocalID, "xri://$xrd*($v*2.0)":EquivID, "xri://$xrd*($v*2.0)":CanonicalID, "xri
[16:31:44]<anarcat>fun fun
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[17:33:10]<c_mcintosh>anarcat sounds like
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[19:10:07]<AntiNSA>wha tis this, and is it usefull? Is it recommended to be enabled? Enables Nginx fast private file transfer.
[19:10:19]<AntiNSA>Ninx Accel Redirect
[19:10:40]<AntiNSA>I am not hosint files to be downloaded or uploaded to really...
[19:10:53]<AntiNSA>does is use extra server resources if enabled?
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[19:28:34]<AntiNSA>is the advagg recommended to download and install? I can see javascipt aggregator has been removed. Also Path Alias cache has beenenabled now by default? Is this really recommended?
[19:30:03]<AntiNSA>its terrible though that it says "Search Hudson" when hitting tab in the adress bar instaed of my sites name. I alqays though hudson was such a bad name...
[19:41:42]<AntiNSA>hefring tell Omega8cc: Nevermind on the D,P,S thing. Is AdvAgg currently recommended? I see its not in the included modules, but I know so much uner octopus has been done to support it... is it stable to download the module and give it a go?
[19:41:42]<hefring>AntiNSA: I'll pass that on when Omega8cc is around.
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[20:08:33]<skwashd>mig5, how's cheese baguettes?
[20:09:56]<skwashd>brb
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[20:22:38]<omega8cc>mig5: thank you! beautiful spring there, good to know where is your second home in Rennes :)
[20:22:38]<hefring>omega8cc: 5 hours 10 min ago <AntiNSA> tell omega8cc What are the three different platform versions of pressflow/drupal 6 on the lates octopus build? Is 6.20 D -dev P-Public and S-SSL ???? I cant find any info about this....
[20:22:38]<hefring>omega8cc: 40 min 56 sec ago <AntiNSA> tell Omega8cc: Nevermind on the D,P,S thing. Is AdvAgg currently recommended? I see its not in the included modules, but I know so much uner octopus has been done to support it... is it stable to download the module and give it a go?
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[20:28:57]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: I don't recommend AdvAgg yet, only for testing, so it is expected in sites/all/modules and was removed from o_contrib
[20:33:59]<AntiNSA>i see in the welcom email you recommend boost, and enable path alias cache by default
[20:35:26]<AntiNSA>I dont know if its worth mentioning,l but you added a lot of modules I had already in my install to contrib, thanks to drupal tweaks it found duplicate modules.. mayb you should suggest in welcome email to enable drupal tweaks and check for suggestions to avoid duplicate modules
[20:35:47]<AntiNSA>do you really recommend boost enabled?
[20:36:29]<AntiNSA>its nice to see server cpu use @ 80% again
[20:36:45]<AntiNSA>the version last week @ tuesday was killing me.
[20:37:01]<AntiNSA>using new boa instead of head this time
[20:38:06]<AntiNSA>enabling boost gives message about robots text. should we follow the suggestion in the status report to modify robots.txt?
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[20:49:40]<AntiNSA>forget boost I dont know why I keep trying it sends cpu up to 150%
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[21:07:53]<AntiNSA>wow boost sends cpu to 400 and above.
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[21:16:48]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: you don't need Boost when you have speed booster enabled
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[21:21:24]<omega8cc>doh! it is still possible to break stuff by using CAPS in domain name on clone, still not enough strtolower()
[21:22:31]<omega8cc>but it worked before I reverted my original weird patch
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[21:34:02]<AntiNSA><AntiNSA> wha tis this, and is it usefull? Is it recommended to be enabled? Enables Nginx fast private file transfer.
[21:34:03]<AntiNSA><AntiNSA> Ninx Accel Redirect
[21:35:52]<AntiNSA>I notice it takes much longer now for octopus to run verify tasks and other things.
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[21:36:39]<AntiNSA>I mean the stuff in the aegir control panel queue just sits there a much longer time than before
[21:36:53]<AntiNSA>5 minute delay?
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[22:35:37]<AntiNSA>do you recommend css embedded images if you are using image cache heavily?
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[23:00:05]<AntiNSA>problems getting chron to run to verify site.
[23:04:08]<AntiNSA>Im going to do a complete reinstall using head instead of boa 8
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[23:04:44]<AntiNSA>i dont know if enabling boost and then manually delieting cache dir killed me...
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[23:05:20]<AntiNSA>flushing cache with admin men caused panels to dissappear..
[23:07:07]<AntiNSA>have any great commits to make in the next 5 minutes?
[23:07:09]<AntiNSA>Ill wait
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[23:14:44]<AntiNSA>http://soundcloud.com/areojones/daft-punk-technologic-grease-light-acid-...
[23:14:50]<AntiNSA>My theme song
[23:15:05]<AntiNSA>I vote this the barracuda aegir theme song
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[23:32:07]<AntiNSA>Idont understand why you dont want to ask if they want to install chivve and stuff at the beginning of the script instead of the end of the script?
[23:32:19]<AntiNSA>that would save some time I think.
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[23:44:11]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: because the order is important here, and you can always turn on the autopilot to install everything without any Yes/no
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[23:51:00]* szczym votes +1 for theme song by daft punk
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[00:00:14]<szczym>I just spend long time looking for a reason of page not rendering with new css - just found its been send from static cache after i disabled the boost module ...
[00:00:14]<hefring>szczym: 1 day 5 hours ago <omega8cc> tell szczym: http://drupal.org/node/1130992#comment-4365428
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[00:02:25]<szczym>thanx omega8cc, i get panic becouse anarcat set it to major
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[00:07:08]<omega8cc>szczym: np, for Boost you always have to purge the Boost cache, then disable it and the uninstall + check if there is anything left in the cache dir, because it will be served forever if there is anything still
[00:07:54]<szczym>yes, i just expired that on my sholder ... thanx
[00:08:22]<AntiNSA>uninstalling boost just killed my site on reinstall now
[00:09:13]<omega8cc>AntiNSA: you are not using it properly if that kills anything
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[00:10:08]<AntiNSA>using it sends cpu way up. uninstalling it made problems.
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[00:12:45]<szczym>Antinasa: hire is mysolution to boost cpu on tiny site but its sooo diry :P : wget --user-agent="dirtyone" --spider -r -t 1 -l 1 http://katastrofastudio.pl
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[00:34:10]<omega8cc>yay, my critical is back! http://drupal.org/node/949044#comment-4371464 working on this today
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[00:37:46]<AntiNSA>argghh.. just installed head and the only choice is staging and development... no production :(
[00:38:05]<AntiNSA>does that mean there is a difference in caching or anything else that this wiill not work for production?
[00:38:18]<omega8cc>no difference at all
[00:38:21]<AntiNSA>Only 6.x D & S.....
[00:38:22]<AntiNSA>ok
[00:38:25]<AntiNSA>cool
[00:38:52]<obrienmd>omega8cc: wondering... is nginx page caching (speed boost) supposed to replace drupal boost?
[00:38:52]<hefring>obrienmd: 1 day 5 hours ago <omega8cc> tell obrienmd: thanks, it can be still improved, the feedback is appreciated
[00:39:01]<AntiNSA>views_attach kills drush migrate btw...
[00:39:16]<hefring>Provision => 1132514 - fix deploy in Drupal 5 => http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/commitdiff/5609c8a2d885abe9c...
[00:39:22]<AntiNSA>you have to patch or disable views attach or migrate will fail with pressflow
[00:39:35]<obrienmd>omega8cc: you're welcome, I'll let you know if the memory limits seem suboptimal
[00:39:46]<AntiNSA>forry that was rules....
[00:40:03]<AntiNSA>not views_attach. I dont know what views attachs problem is now.
[00:40:10]<omega8cc>obrienmd: no, because Boost allows you to "override" the speed booster cache and keep more adanced control on cache purge
[00:40:13]<AntiNSA>sorry I meant rules breaks migrate.
[00:40:41]<obrienmd>omega8cc: how does speed booster handle cache purge? just on a time basis?
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[00:41:38]<AntiNSA>it takes a lot longer for chron to run tasks from the queue
[00:42:11]<AntiNSA>brand new isntall... bveryify drupal pressflow base is done...
[00:42:42]<omega8cc>obrienmd: yes, it is hardcoded to 8 minutes for anonymous and 5 minutes for logged in, unless he/she will submit/edit any content/comment or hit /user* or /admin* which sets cookie and disables speed booster completely for the next 5 minutes
[00:42:46]<AntiNSA>install new alpha.mydomain.site task still in queue on debian 6 freash new install...
[00:42:51]<omega8cc>dinner time, bbl
[00:42:58]<szczym>antinsa: maybe its becouse its still validating platforms ?
[00:43:27]<AntiNSA>no validaiton is done like 3 minutes ago
[00:43:53]<AntiNSA>i get th e spinning wheel, but the new task doesnt start
[00:43:53]<szczym>when i add new octopus to my 1gb ram linode, its takes 15 minues for cpu to go under 1.0
[00:44:16]<szczym>and when you refresh da page ?
[00:44:17]<AntiNSA>this happened on the sendond octopus install today... never had this problem efore
[00:44:38]<AntiNSA>also 1.5 gb linode...
[00:44:58]<szczym>seems like you will have to wait for grace to finish diner ;)
[00:44:59]<AntiNSA>sitting there task of installing new site isnt going...
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[00:45:20]<AntiNSA>klidkr briefly ,. npp progress wheel starts..
[00:45:30]<AntiNSA>yeah I will delete the taask and try again.
[00:45:40]<AntiNSA>ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[00:45:46]<szczym>btw: whay you went from t-8 to head ?
[00:45:53]<AntiNSA>aaaaaaaaaaaaamen brothers and sisters the chron has ran
[00:46:20]<AntiNSA>god damn I need to get this running so I can go buy beer and make popcorn before work begins for the night..
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[01:01:32]<parsingphase>Is 1.0 the same as rc7? The manual upgrade seems to have pulled from the rc7 tag
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[01:30:08]<hefring>community => Confused by rc7 mention in v1.0 upgrade => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/confused-rc7-mention-v10-upgrade
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[01:45:08]<omega8cc>hah, so it seems that to migrate the site from one install profile to another we just need to specify old_short_name in the newname.profile file, that is awesome (thanks to DevSeed trick for OA)
[01:46:24]<omega8cc>it is in function _hosting_migrate_get_target_profile_name() in hosting_migrate.drush.inc
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[02:12:54]<anarcat>releasing 1.1
[02:14:43]<szczym>new releses are poping fast nova days ;)
[02:15:31]<adrinux>oh my
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[02:22:21]<omega8cc>anarcat: wait!
[02:22:28]<anarcat>omega8cc: what!
[02:22:38]<omega8cc>anarcat: I just fixed critical :)
[02:22:43]<omega8cc>anarcat: http://drupal.org/node/949044#comment-4372008
[02:22:43]<anarcat>omega8cc: which?
[02:23:08]<omega8cc>the old one, was back
[02:23:32]<anarcat>is this necessary? http://drupalcode.org/sandbox/omega8cc/1074912.git/patch/51a5423c700f68e...
[02:23:48]<omega8cc>anarcat: yes
[02:23:51]<anarcat>the other patch seems right
[02:23:55]<anarcat>i don't undrstand
[02:23:55]<omega8cc>both are required
[02:24:25]<anarcat>i understand *that* :)
[02:24:28]<omega8cc>anarcat: try to migrate/rename the site and use CAPS in the domain
[02:24:38]<anarcat>i don't understand why http://drupalcode.org/sandbox/omega8cc/1074912.git/patch/51a5423c700f68e... is necessary if we lowercase the domain in the pre hook
[02:25:54]<anarcat>omega8cc: ^
[02:26:02]<omega8cc>anarcat: it is separate, one patch for clone and second for migrate, not sure if that will work with the second only>
[02:26:04]<anarcat>that's for older sites?
[02:26:14]<anarcat>omega8cc: can you test?
[02:26:30]<omega8cc>anarcat: yep, one sec
[02:26:38]<anarcat>oh, i think i understand
[02:27:00]<anarcat>okay, both merged in
[02:27:14]<omega8cc>anarcat: thanks :)
[02:27:35]<omega8cc>you know, I like that strtolower(trim()) ;)
[02:27:46]<anarcat>oh yeah you do
[02:29:12]<anarcat>laying down the tags now
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[02:31:49]<anarcat>provision tags pushed
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[02:41:20]<anarcat>okay, now to the release nodes
[02:42:00]<AntiNSA>whats up with the tab after address in the url box and its now "tab to search HUDSON"
[02:42:36]<AntiNSA>that kind of sucks. hudson is such a stupid name for that project. I wish they had a different name for it.
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[02:43:09]<AntiNSA>I dont like my site to mascarade as an elitist who has a butler
[02:43:21]<AntiNSA>human slavery
[02:43:25]<AntiNSA>Ill be the slave
[02:43:39]<AntiNSA>dont want to encourage the enslavementof others.
[02:43:47]<Captain_Haddock>aegir 1 + nginx 0.8.53 + php 5.3.3 = smooth sailing?
[02:43:54]<Captain_Haddock>mmm mascara
[02:44:58]<Captain_Haddock>(^and importantly + Drupal 7)
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[02:48:14]<anarcat>awesome
[02:48:48]* anarcat has changed the topic to Aegir hosting system 1.1 released! http://community.aegirproject.org/1.1 | Issue queue: http://is.gd/edalY | read this before asking: http://community.aegirproject.org/help | scrums on tuesday 2200UTC | in other news: hell freezes over
[02:52:48]<anarcat>here we go
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[02:59:48]<c_mcintosh>what up
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[03:02:15]<hefring>community => 1.1 released! => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/11-released
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[03:03:20]<JoshBenner>I've run into drush/Aegir version issues a few times, now. Is there documentation on which versions of drush each version of Aegir is compatible with?
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[03:06:08]<JoshBenner>For instance, I have beta2 installed, and I think it likes drush 3.3, but not drush 4.0 so much.
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[03:14:05]<c_mcintosh>mig5: Vertice: anarcat: do you guys mind me talking about you and some of the awesome work you have been doing in aegir on a blog post / Developer Hall of fame?
[03:14:33]<anarcat>of course not :)
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[03:15:38]<c_mcintosh>cool stuff, im putting together a developer wall of fame of sorts for my site, im going to post some of the programmers / designer / innovators that i respect/admire/etc
[03:16:07]<c_mcintosh>got all of my back end stuff pretty much nailed down today so now im moving on to graphics / content
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[03:32:23]<jamiemcclelland>i'm now working with the manual aegir install process and am having the same problem i had with the deb install. when I run drush hostmaster-install i get Created aegirourpowerbas database [success]
[03:32:27]<jamiemcclelland>followed by:
[03:32:31]<jamiemcclelland>Table &#039;aegirourpowerbas.system&#039; doesn&#039;t exist
[03:32:42]<jamiemcclelland>it seems to successfully create the database, but not install any tables.
[03:32:50]<jamiemcclelland>any suggestions on where to look?
[03:33:09]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: run hostmaster-install with --debug
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[03:34:54]<jamiemcclelland>i'll need to redirect to a file... buffer ran out
[03:35:10]<jamiemcclelland>i have countless: Function ereg() is deprecated file.inc:941 [25.42 sec, 43.11 MB] [notice]
[03:35:21]<jamiemcclelland>just before the warning about the table that doesn't exist
[03:36:50]<anarcat>ah-ah :)
[03:36:58]<anarcat>you want to review a core patch :)
[03:38:07]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: http://drupal.org/node/883038#comment-4230882
[03:38:47]<jamiemcclelland>oh man. you think that's the cause of my woes?
[03:39:03]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: i also have a fix for drush for this: http://drupal.org/node/1129332
[03:39:07]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: no
[03:39:16]<anarcat>those warnings are harmless, but those patches get rid of them so you can see the real issue
[03:39:22]<jamiemcclelland>ok.
[03:39:37]<anarcat>the problem with those warnings is that they emanate from PHP 5.3's E_DEPRECATED new errors
[03:40:03]<jamiemcclelland>since hostmaster-install seems to download it's own drupal, how can I patch it? Or should I adjust php5 error handling instead?
[03:40:58]<anarcat>hum
[03:41:13]<anarcat>you can modify the aegir.make file to add the patch
[03:41:16]<anarcat>or you can patch drush
[03:42:26]<jamiemcclelland> drush --debug install-hostmaster 2>hostmaster.out
[03:42:55]<jamiemcclelland>woops... i mean drush --debug hostmaster-install 2>hostmaster.out
[03:45:03]<jamiemcclelland>so strange... more success messages...
[03:45:04]<jamiemcclelland>Successfully connected to the Drupal database. [24.27 sec, 29.48 MB] [bootstrap]
[03:45:07]<jamiemcclelland>Installing Drupal schema [24.27 sec, 29.48 MB] [install]
[03:45:11]<jamiemcclelland>Loading hostmaster install profile [24.27 sec, 29.48 MB] [install]
[03:45:14]<jamiemcclelland>Installing translation : en [24.27 sec, 29.48 MB] [install]
[03:45:17]<jamiemcclelland>Table &#039;nicolasmayfirsto.system&#039; doesn&#039;t exist ESC[1;33;40mESC[1m[warning]ESC[0m
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[03:51:02]<mig5>omega8cc: re: migrate between profiles, yes that's correct. the openatrium install profile is the original example
[03:51:16]<mig5>they renamed from atrium_installer to openatrium or something
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[03:59:07]<omega8cc>mig5: right, I found this when working on my critical today and then found 'old_short_name' => 'enterprise_installer' defined in the openenterprise.profile
[04:00:00]<mig5>ah nice
[04:00:14]<mig5>yeah it would be good to demo/screencast this feature, there are a few people who think it's not possible
[04:00:31]<omega8cc>yeah
[04:00:32]<mig5>perhaps, in fact, a wiki page in the docs
[04:01:05]<omega8cc>I think I will try it out and then document in the wiki
[04:02:25]<omega8cc>mig5: but another video by mig5 (when back in AU) would be also nice :)
[04:02:32]<mig5>heh
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[04:06:32]<anarcat>mig5: hey
[04:06:35]<anarcat>mig5: 1.1! :)
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[04:06:41]<anarcat>mig5: i created a build for it, magic easy
[04:07:03]<anarcat>mig5: also, i started working on unit testing and wanted to checkin with you about using the jenkins server directly without going through the cloud
[04:07:43]<mig5>i see
[04:07:56]<anarcat>mig5: so basically, i'd like to have the provision unit test suite (yet to be created :) to be fired up directly on the jenkins server, as it would be faster (no need to install debian, for example)
[04:08:07]<anarcat>and we can have clean tearup/teardown procedures that leave no traces
[04:08:17]<anarcat>i would just need a mysql root user :)
[04:08:29]<mig5>and it will make use of those git repos perhaps (although it drops them in /var/lib/jenkins and not in a .drush dir, though maybe we can make it do that)
[04:08:39]<anarcat>yeah
[04:08:47]<mig5>what i think would be best, is if i set up a new machine for this, and give you full sudo etc on it
[04:08:48]<anarcat>does jenkins run as root?
[04:08:52]<mig5>as this machine already does other stuff
[04:08:55]<anarcat>yeah, that would be cool
[04:08:56]<mig5>no it runs as a dedicated jenkins user
[04:08:59]<anarcat>i don't want to fuckup your stuff
[04:09:00]<anarcat>ok
[04:09:03]<mig5>haha
[04:09:15]<mig5>alright i will set that up
[04:10:09]<anarcat>yaaay!
[04:10:16]<anarcat>thanks!
[04:10:35]<anarcat>man
[04:10:41]<anarcat>i had so much fun playing with unit tets
[04:10:42]<anarcat>tests*
[04:10:53]<anarcat>i am thinking of pushing in 2.x before everything else now
[04:11:04]<anarcat>so that we can fuckup everything and we'll know :)
[04:11:26]<anarcat>we'll catch your migressions and my anarcatastrophes right away ;)
[04:11:43]<anarcat>I wonder what companies that advertise Aegir as a mass service do about
[04:11:43]<anarcat>these problems ? Koumbit, Omega8cc huh ?
[04:11:43]<anarcat>Or is it "let's sell and hope that noone breaks it" approach :P
[04:11:46]<anarcat>i knew this would come :)
[04:11:50]<anarcat>http://drupal.org/node/762138
[04:12:15]<mig5>yeah..
[04:12:20]<mig5>well, you could sell one VPS per client
[04:12:27]<mig5>which has other good reasons too, in my opinion
[04:12:30]<mig5>but don't feed the troll..
[04:12:33]<mig5>:)
[04:12:37]<anarcat>well
[04:12:46]<anarcat>aegir doesn't exactly create VPSes just yet
[04:12:56]<anarcat>and we don't even *use* remote servers yet, nevermind selling them...
[04:13:00]<anarcat>but yeah
[04:13:02]<mig5>no it doesn't, but separating clients pe rserver works around the problem too
[04:13:05]<anarcat>that's a good solution
[04:13:07]<mig5>individual aegirs
[04:13:10]<anarcat>yeah
[04:13:25]<omega8cc>anarcat: just writing comment there
[04:13:28]<anarcat>but then the idea with mass hosting is the "100$/yr drupal site", and you won't get that in the cloud
[04:13:34]<mig5>yeah
[04:15:21]* anarcat -> food
[04:19:01]<mig5>anarcat: send me any relevant IPs/subnets that i could open up for the firewall so you can ssh to the new machine
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[04:36:13]<recidive>hello
[04:36:13]<hefring>recidive: 1 day 9 hours ago <omega8cc> tell recidive: we use Nginx 1.0 with Aegir 1.0, it is included in BOA v.1.0-boa-T-8
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[04:36:51]<recidive>hefring: thanks
[04:36:51]<hefring>no problem
[04:37:13]<omega8cc>haha, smart bot!
[04:37:38]<recidive>guy, I got a stalled install task
[04:37:44]<recidive>* guys
[04:37:46]<recidive>omega8cc: thanks
[04:38:10]<recidive>I mixed the author :P
[04:38:32]<recidive>how can I delete an install task from the queue
[04:38:35]<recidive>or just cancel ir
[04:38:38]<recidive>it
[04:38:47]<omega8cc>recidive: as hefring says: no problem :)
[04:38:56]<recidive>omega8cc: what linux distro are you running nginx 1.0 in?
[04:39:32]<omega8cc>Debian Squeeze and Lenny, but it works also with Ubuntu up to Maverick
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[04:41:18]<omega8cc>recidive: this is hardcore method, but sometimes you have no other choice: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/321
[04:41:49]<recidive>omega8cc: I have no problem with hardcore stuff :P
[04:42:42]<recidive>omega8cc: I would do anything I need to in order to get rid of this install task taht never end
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[04:43:56]<omega8cc>recidive: yeah, just avoid this if possible, or at least check in the system what has been really created - at what point it failed so you can kill the zombies
[04:44:10]<recidive>omega8cc: I actually did that already, in order to delete a site that have failed to install
[04:44:43]<recidive>omega8cc: my server crashed, apc problem I think, still investigating
[04:44:46]<omega8cc>yeah, just delete its node and re-verify the platform, because the site could be installed anyway
[04:44:46]<jamiemcclelland>anarcat: hours and hours of debugging later... and I have a diff for the aegir-hostmaster deb package control file:
[04:44:49]<jamiemcclelland>+Depends: debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, drush (>= 4.3), php5-mysql, apache2, libapache2-mod-php5, aegir-provision, git-core, unzip
[04:44:53]<jamiemcclelland>-Depends: debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, drush (>= 4.3), php5-mysql, apache2, libapache2-mod-php5, aegir-provision, git-core
[04:44:59]<jamiemcclelland>i was missing unzip.
[04:45:03]<recidive>omega8cc: thanks for the tips ;)
[04:45:21]<omega8cc>np
[04:46:18]<omega8cc>recidive: I mean delete the site node, not just the task node
[04:46:33]<recidive>omega8cc: have you tried nginx 1.0 from this ubuntu ppa?
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[04:47:41]<omega8cc>no, I hate ubuntu, it is a system for kids on netbooks :p
[04:49:01]<omega8cc>I learned to build from sources in the early RH era and can't stop, lol
[04:50:19]<omega8cc>seriously, I want to keep Barracuda working on both Debian and Ubuntu, so I will not use any Ubuntu specific stuff
[04:51:09]<recidive>k
[04:51:13]<omega8cc>and I want it to work also for older Debian and Ubuntu releases, so it is against Ubuntu style
[04:51:33]<recidive>I don't have time to compile stuff and re-compile on every upgrade again :P
[04:51:52]<recidive>omega8cc: do you know if it's easy to move a platform codebase to another path?
[04:52:50]<omega8cc>do you know you need only 30 seconds to recompile Nginx? I don't think it is an issue while using installer anyway
[04:53:12]<omega8cc>easy, with symlink probably
[04:53:31]<omega8cc>don't try other methods
[04:53:50]<omega8cc>there is a reason while the path is not editable
[04:53:55]<omega8cc>why*
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[04:57:29]<q0rban>is there a way to migrate a site by hand using drush?
[04:57:44]<q0rban>I'm on an older version of aegir, and running into multi server issues during migration
[04:57:50]<q0rban>and upgrading is not an option
[04:58:11]<q0rban>Database import failed: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'site_1068'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[04:58:36]<q0rban>probably should be site_1068@web2, not localhost
[05:00:35]<q0rban>well, maybe not.. I assume it's firing with --backend
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[05:08:11]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: oh gosh
[05:08:36]<jamiemcclelland>i'm glad it was so simple in the end.
[05:09:23]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: great work!
[05:09:32]<anarcat>i'll commit this and reroll a package for 1.1 right away
[05:09:33]<anarcat>thanks!
[05:09:50]<jamiemcclelland>np. glad to contribute.
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[05:16:06]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: i added a few other missing requirements as Recommends (php5, php5-gd and rsync)
[05:16:53]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: i have uploaded 1.1-2 to the koumbit unstable repository, do you think you can test the install again...?
[05:17:08]<anarcat>i really need to setup a test build for the debian packages in jenkins...
[05:17:09]<jamiemcclelland>sure
[05:17:54]<anarcat>awesome
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[05:19:15]<jamiemcclelland>i ran aptiutude purge on all three packages, manually dropped the two databases I created, and manually delete the two users from mysql.user and mysql.db
[05:19:36]<anarcat>i guess i need to make uninstall instructions for the debian package :P
[05:19:52]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: it would have been easier to do drush @site1 provision-delete
[05:19:54]<anarcat>for every site
[05:19:58]<anarcat>then aptitude purge the site
[05:20:05]<jamiemcclelland>ah -got it. that makes more sense.
[05:20:24]<jamiemcclelland>is there a reason aegir-hostmaster asks twice for the root mysql password?
[05:20:27]<anarcat>those steps would be done by purge, after asking the user first
[05:20:35]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: no good reason, sounds like a bug
[05:20:42]<anarcat>i got confused in the debconf prompts at some point
[05:21:28]<jamiemcclelland>hm. new error: BUILD_ERROR [error]
[05:21:31]<jamiemcclelland>Unable to download admin_menu from [error]
[05:21:34]<jamiemcclelland>http://ftp.drupal.org/files/projects/admin_menu-6.x-1.6.tar.gz.
[05:21:48]<anarcat>er
[05:22:05]<anarcat>that works here
[05:22:06]<jamiemcclelland>trying again... maybe weird intermittent network error?
[05:22:18]<anarcat>sure sounds like it
[05:23:30]<jamiemcclelland>woops - i forgot to run aptitude update to get the new version...
[05:24:09]<anarcat>and you need to change your sources.list to point to unstable too
[05:24:17]<anarcat>deb http://debian.koumbit.net/debian stable main
[05:24:19]<anarcat>becomes:
[05:24:21]<anarcat>deb http://debian.koumbit.net/debian unstable main
[05:24:43]<anarcat>once it's tested, i migrate it to stable
[05:26:32]<jamiemcclelland>ok... got it. now aptitude pulls in fontconfig-config{a} libfontconfig1{a} libgd2-xpm{a} libjpeg62{a} libpng12-0{a} libt1-5{a} libxpm4{a} php5{a} php5-gd{a} ttf-dejavu-core{a}
[05:27:43]<anarcat>whoa
[05:27:46]<anarcat>well, that's gd
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[05:42:34]<jamiemcclelland>install was successful :)
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[06:17:16]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: yaaay!
[06:17:20]<anarcat>jamiemcclelland: i'll migrate the package to stable
[06:17:55]<anarcat>done
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[06:30:15]<michaelfavia>is there any documentation on suggested aegir platform strategies for companies managing multiple clients with different sites?
[06:31:21]<michaelfavia>can i leverage a drush make file chain to manage them all similarly until different?
[06:31:58]<michaelfavia>e.g. get drupal 7, views, ctools, etc in the base makefiel thne have a site specific makefiile reference it.
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[06:40:34]<jamiemcclelland>bgm: hey mathieu, i'm having trouble with this civicrm make file: https://redmine.koumbit.net/projects/provision-civicrm/wiki/Drush_Makefile
[06:41:00]<jamiemcclelland>it works if I install civicrm-l10n in it's own module directory
[06:41:08]<jamiemcclelland>e.g. projects[civicrml10n][directory_name] = "civicrm-l10n"
[06:41:15]<jamiemcclelland>any reason not to do that?
[06:41:41]<bgm>jamiemcclelland: the l10n stuff needs to go in civicrm/l10n/
[06:41:55]<bgm>it gives an error, but it's not critical, should be more of a warning i guess. I'm not sure how to fix that.
[06:42:36]<jamiemcclelland>hm. ok. the problem is that drupal_make now fails to copy files from tmp on error (http://drupal.org/node/1101746)
[06:43:24]<jamiemcclelland>i can still do it manually.
[06:44:31]<bgm>hmm, ok
[06:44:51]<bgm>yes, i guess you'll have to do it manually until we find a better way
[06:45:47]<jamiemcclelland>ok. np.
[06:48:44]<jamiemcclelland>hm. I don't think l10n is getting downloaded at all.
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[07:14:10]<omega8cc>michaelfavia: you can't use site specific makefiles, the site is not an app in Aegir, it is the install profile with corresponding makefile, while the site is just a deployed instance of that app, so you can manage your code (also when site specific) in your repos (per modules and per theme) and then glue it on the meta level using makefiles, but always to create platforms, not sites because the site is not an "object" to manage via make
[07:14:46]<michaelfavia>omega8cc, reading
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[07:17:05]<michaelfavia>omega8cc, i think i understand. so you chain an aegir platform to an install profile (also managed via makefile).
[07:17:45]<michaelfavia>with this hybrid approach you can easily upgrade platforms form 7.0 to 7.0 pressflow, etc.
[07:17:51]<michaelfavia>err 7.1
[07:18:42]<michaelfavia>and i should handle the changing (contrib) modules of a site (or between sites) as install profiles?
[07:18:43]<omega8cc>michaelfavia: the platform can host many apps (install profiles) so the platform is also not an app, it is an environment where the app lives
[07:18:53]<michaelfavia>omega8cc, 10-4
[07:19:36]<michaelfavia>omega8cc, thanks for the pointer saved me a ton of time experimenting im sure.
[07:19:49]<joestewart>michaelfavia: If it isn't clear, The specific platform makefiles can build upon a common base makefile. You might have seen this - http://community.aegirproject.org/node/256
[07:20:38]<michaelfavia>joestewart, re-reading
[07:20:41]<omega8cc>michaelfavia: it is a bit tricky first, but you will see it is a good structure design to work with
[07:20:57]<michaelfavia>omega8cc, i can already see the power. i just dont want to misuse it.
[07:21:04]<omega8cc>right
[07:21:49]<jamiemcclelland>bgm: just opened a ticket to track the problem (http://drupal.org/node/1133808)
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