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| [10:20:46] | <szczym> | Egyptian[Laptop] barracuda is for core system, Octopus is for system users. baracuda and octopus bouth are instaling hostmasters |
| [10:21:13] | <Egyptian[Laptop]> | szczym: so i can install baracuda instead of aegir ? |
| [10:21:37] | <szczym> | baracuda will automatically install aegir for you |
| [10:22:42] | <Egyptian[Laptop]> | szczym: rigth |
| [10:23:05] | <szczym> | but after baracuda its better to run octopus, it will install for you 12 platforms and aegir with ftp user name ect. |
| [10:29:15] | <Egyptian[Laptop]> | baracuda doesnt work on centos?! |
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| [10:30:24] | <szczym> | no, its not. |
| [10:31:09] | <szczym> | in my opinion it runs best on ubuntu :P |
| [10:31:30] | <szczym> | omega8cc (developers of barracuda) say its best on debian |
| [10:33:30] | <Egyptian[Laptop]> | what is axel ? |
| [10:34:34] | <szczym> | axel ? |
| [10:35:17] | <szczym> | in what context are you asking for axel ? |
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| [10:37:54] | <Egyptian[Laptop]> | szczym: baracuda wants to install it |
| [10:38:05] | <Egyptian[Laptop]> | e need to install wget, axel, netcat & git first, please wait... |
| [10:38:40] | <szczym> | just let it install everything , no worres |
| [10:39:00] | <szczym> | if you below 1GB ram, dont take java apache solr |
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| [13:16:08] | <hefring> | community => Aegir Load balanced in EC2 - any ideas? => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/aegir-load-balanced-ec2-any-ideas |
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| [14:17:54] | <skwashd> | hefring, check out glusterfs |
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| [16:47:39] | <Aciid> | Can aegir be configured to take /sites/%site% backup? |
| [16:48:29] | <Aciid> | to be more specific, can I make a task out of the original "Backup" to task -> "Backup site-directory" |
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| [16:51:59] | <skwashd> | Aciid, you should be able to create one |
| [16:55:40] | <Aciid> | skwashd: ill give it a try |
| [16:55:41] | <Aciid> | thanks |
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| [17:24:23] | <HaloFX> | Aciid: Are you trying to automate backups? |
| [17:25:30] | <Aciid> | HaloFX: yes |
| [17:25:41] | <Aciid> | but I'd mostly want it integrated to aegir |
| [17:26:28] | <HaloFX> | Aciid: Have you seen http://drupal.org/project/hosting_backup_queue |
| [17:27:01] | <HaloFX> | and also http://drupal.org/project/hosting_backup_gc |
| [17:27:38] | <HaloFX> | Awesome pair of modules. They will also backup remote sites. |
| [17:27:58] | <Aciid> | HaloFX: I have not yet installed those |
| [17:28:02] | <Aciid> | I will try them out right now |
| [17:28:07] | <Aciid> | thanks HaloFX |
| [17:28:25] | <Aciid> | HaloFX: I only need to backup to a folder where my S3 script picks up |
| [17:28:32] | <Aciid> | which is aegirs backup folder |
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| [17:43:19] | <HaloFX> | Anyone have experience rolling out Open Atrium under Aegir? |
| [17:44:22] | <HaloFX> | I am getting 2 errors. One is thousands of messages in the task log with : Function ereg() is deprecated file.inc:941 |
| [17:44:42] | <HaloFX> | The other is : notifications_content module is required but was not found |
| [17:46:48] | <HaloFX> | I have applied these patches to Druah, but made no difference. http://drupal.org/node/1129332 |
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| [18:10:50] | <yareckon> | say I am creating features on one site of a multi site and developing the theme on another site of a multi site. When features are ready should I install them in sites all or move them over into the sites/modules folder of the target system? |
| [18:11:03] | <yareckon> | I know, I know there is more than one way to do it :) |
| [18:11:09] | <yareckon> | but best practices? |
| [18:12:00] | <yareckon> | If I am using drush make, I also wonder whether targetting the site specific folder is a good idea. |
| [18:14:34] | <Aciid> | HaloFX: https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/blob/master/aegir/barracuda... |
| [18:16:24] | <Aciid> | yareckon: I usually store all multisite themes at all/themes. and dev on per-sites/themes. but it's also problematic if you have lots of custom done with skinr and such |
| [18:16:34] | <Aciid> | best way is that once site is ready 'clone' it |
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| [01:17:22] | <AntiNSA> | omega8cc whats the best way to exclude the caching system from caching quiz type content/ ? I have found wiht short answer type question format that the caching system is interferring with allowing the questions to be answered... |
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| [01:45:49] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: ping - i'd like to talk later about the DC session... we have to submit soon! :) |
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| [01:51:12] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: pong! |
| [01:51:15] | <darthsteven> | Indeed |
| [01:51:48] | <darthsteven> | I was thinking two sessions, one high level about Aegir, one about 'extending Aegir' |
| [01:56:22] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: Hello? |
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| [02:09:41] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: hello! |
| [02:09:46] | <darthsteven> | Hello! |
| [02:09:46] | <hefring> | what's up |
| [02:10:23] | <darthsteven> | I'm about to leave the office, just changing over to iPhone, give me a minute... |
| [02:10:54] | <anarcat> | ok |
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| [02:13:59] | <darthsteven> | Right.. |
| [02:14:11] | <anarcat> | so |
| [02:14:21] | <anarcat> | i feel that two sessions is a lot of material to show |
| [02:14:27] | <anarcat> | but then again maybe we can do that |
| [02:14:37] | <anarcat> | you were feeling like heading the extending aegir one? |
| [02:15:32] | <darthsteven> | What's the plan |
| [02:15:55] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: You there? |
| [02:16:01] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: i am |
| [02:16:11] | <darthsteven> | Me too! |
| [02:16:21] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: i was thinking of making an etherpad session to plan the session, how does that sound? |
| [02:16:36] | <darthsteven> | Sure |
| [02:16:37] | <anarcat> | we can work a bit over it today, then ponder about it and send it tomorrow |
| [02:16:51] | <darthsteven> | How many sessions should we do? |
| [02:17:03] | <darthsteven> | I reckon two? |
| [02:17:13] | <anarcat> | http://ietherpad.com/IPG20pWEUy |
| [02:17:27] | <darthsteven> | Intro to aegir, and aegir development |
| [02:17:39] | <anarcat> | yeah |
| [02:19:01] | <darthsteven> | Anything else should be a Bof |
| [02:19:06] | <anarcat> | alright |
| [02:19:27] | <darthsteven> | Are you planning to present any other sessions? |
| [02:20:10] | <anarcat> | no |
| [02:20:17] | <anarcat> | we have plenty on our hands with the training proposals :) |
| [02:20:42] | <anarcat> | i'm trying to find the older agenda |
| [02:20:59] | <darthsteven> | Cool |
| [02:23:45] | <anarcat> | ... trying to anyways :) |
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| [02:25:10] | <darthsteven> | I see the intro to aegir one the one where we show off things like migration and cloning, and everyone goes: ohh...ahh... etc. |
| [02:25:20] | <darthsteven> | Keep it nice and high level |
| [02:25:27] | <darthsteven> | No code! |
| [02:26:57] | <darthsteven> | Also drop in stories like the fact that the current UK government use it |
| [02:27:20] | <darthsteven> | Although they don't know they do ;) |
| [02:27:44] | <anarcat> | hehe |
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| [02:29:20] | <darthsteven> | I had written some text about the two sessions, I'll add it when I'm back home (10 mins) |
| [02:30:07] | <anarcat> | hefring: tell omega8cc to update http://community.aegirproject.org/maintainers with the location of barracuda when she comes around (if relevant?) |
| [02:30:07] | <hefring> | anarcat: I'll pass that on when omega8cc is around. |
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| [02:30:12] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: awesome |
| [02:30:55] | <darthsteven> | What training are you doing at Drupalcon? |
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| [02:35:42] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: aegir, of course :) |
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| [02:35:52] | <anarcat> | i should probably retweet this |
| [02:37:57] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: http://london2011.drupal.org/conference/training#hostingsystem |
| [02:38:02] | <darthsteven> | Very cool! |
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| [02:39:20] | <darthsteven> | I might have to sign up. |
| [02:40:16] | <anarcat> | wow, wtf |
| [02:40:18] | <anarcat> | http://cph2010.drupal.org/sessions/aegir-one-drupal-rule-them-all |
| [02:40:26] | <anarcat> | -> security lockdown |
| [02:40:31] | <anarcat> | the cph2010 site is down |
| [02:40:39] | <darthsteven> | Yeah |
| [02:40:50] | <darthsteven> | Been like that for a while |
| [02:40:58] | <darthsteven> | Not sure why |
| [02:41:26] | <anarcat> | yay for disposable drupal sites :/ |
| [02:42:03] | <anarcat> | that's really too bad |
| [02:42:49] | <Aciid> | why is opensource development con materials locked down? |
| [02:42:50] | <Aciid> | :< |
| [02:42:51] | <anarcat> | i'll have to make a new description *from scratch*, can you imagine? ;) |
| [02:42:59] | <anarcat> | yeah it sucks |
| [02:43:18] | <anarcat> | maybe the site wasn't updated because it wasn't running in aegir :P |
| [02:44:05] | <darthsteven> | http://www.archive.org/details/Aegir-OneDrupalToRuleThemAll |
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| [02:45:41] | <noecc> | drupalcon security lockdown http://drupal.org/node/1022346 |
| [02:47:57] | <Aciid> | mm if the materials are for reference why are they not static |
| [02:48:03] | <Aciid> | if there are problems with it |
| [02:48:28] | <anarcat> | wow |
| [02:48:28] | <anarcat> | We need a volunteer to convert these sites into static html since they aren't maintained. |
| [02:48:40] | <Aciid> | winhttrack |
| [02:48:47] | <Aciid> | its magic |
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| [02:56:41] | * anarcat copies the body of the presentations in our community site before they disappear again http://community.aegirproject.org/node/50 |
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| [02:59:24] | <darthsteven> | logging? |
| [02:59:37] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: what was the link to the etherpad again? |
| [02:59:39] | <eft_> | anarcat: classic presentation - glad you are preserving it |
| [02:59:51] | <anarcat> | eft_: that *was* a classic :) |
| [02:59:59] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: http://ietherpad.com/IPG20pWEUy |
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| [03:01:00] | <eft_> | anarcat: I'm sure you DC London one will be just as good - will mig5 still be en France? |
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| [03:02:45] | <anarcat> | no, i think he will be back to .au |
| [03:02:58] | <anarcat> | or whatever that cc is :) |
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| [03:04:00] | <eft_> | I wish I could attend myself as it my homeland |
| [03:04:15] | <hefring> | community => Who is using Aegir? => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/who-using-aegir |
| [03:05:16] | <anarcat> | eft_: and you can't? |
| [03:05:43] | <eft_> | I'm in Vancouver - need a sponsor :) |
| [03:06:21] | <eft_> | anarcat: BTW the debian package of aegir ROCKS ! |
| [03:06:56] | <anarcat> | thanks! :) |
| [03:07:41] | <eft_> | Hard to believe that you can go from a clean Debian install to a fully functioning Aegir server with about 20 commands |
| [03:07:51] | <eft_> | less if you Frigg ;) |
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| [03:12:34] | <darthsteven> | how long has Aegir been being developed, in years? |
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| [03:19:58] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: https://www.ohloh.net/p/aegirproject has a bunch of stats for that, but i'd say around 4 years now? |
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| [03:20:44] | <anarcat> | code starts in the end of 2007 on drupal.org, according to their analysis |
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| [03:26:59] | <darthsteven> | I'm not sure the Extending Aegir session outline sounds 'exciting' enough :( |
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| [03:32:01] | <maestrojed> | I would like to add some .htaccess rules for one site. I put a .htaccess in /aegir/platforms/myPlatform/sites/mysite/.htaccess but that didn't do anything. |
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| [03:33:08] | <maestrojed> | My need is to create 301 redirects. I know of a module called "redirect" that does this but you can't import into it and I have 2700 urls to redirect. I can easily make a .htaccess file to do this but I am not sure how to get that to work in the aegir system |
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| [03:35:25] | <darthsteven> | maestrojed: .htaccess files are per-platform not per-site |
| [03:35:52] | <darthsteven> | maestrojed: so it would need to go in /aegir/platforms/myPlatform/.htaccess |
| [03:36:35] | <darthsteven> | maestrojed: and you need to re-verify the platform every time you change it, because .htaccess files are not processed on every page load with Aegir |
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| [03:37:35] | <maestrojed> | darthsteven Ok, and there is no way to have one effect just one site. Keep in mind I don't need to replace or change the main drupal .htaccess. I just want to add my rules which could be in a seperate file. But I guess thats not possible? |
| [03:38:35] | <maestrojed> | darthsteven I guess its not a big deal. The rules will be specific so it should work if I append the main .htaccess file. I just hate that every site on that platform will have to read through all these rules. |
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| [03:39:22] | <darthsteven> | maestrojed: two platforms? |
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| [03:40:05] | <darthsteven> | maestrojed: or work out the DB schema for redirect and do a 'manual' import |
| [03:40:23] | <maestrojed> | darthsteven ok, I don't think I want to split a platform just for this. I am not sure but I assume apahce whips through 2700 rules pretty darn fast. |
| [03:41:11] | <darthsteven> | maestrojed: I would imagine so..but I can't be sure either |
| [03:41:23] | <maestrojed> | darthsteven thanks for the talk! |
| [03:41:33] | <darthsteven> | maestrojed: np |
| [03:43:09] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: I've think I'm done with the session proposals for now, will have a read through later, but feel free to make changes to either |
| [03:43:37] | <darthsteven> | anarcat: What's the plan for presenting them, do you want to share them both, or do just one or ...? |
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| [04:01:28] | <anarcat> | darthsteven: i think we could share them both, but i'll focus on the introduction |
| [04:01:35] | <anarcat> | or we can present each our own, as you feel |
| [04:06:37] | <darthsteven> | Sharing is probably better, but taking the lead on one or the other sounds like a plan |
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| [04:07:18] | <darthsteven> | I.e. You can tell me what to say for the intro one, and vice-versa |
| [04:09:37] | <anarcat> | awesome |
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| [04:28:05] | <lentos> | Hi there! Is it possible with aegir to move sites between webservers? |
| [04:28:39] | <lentos> | The problem I can think of is a downtime of one day at least because of a DNS switch |
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| [04:32:35] | <lentos> | (i'll check it out some other time...) |
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| [05:36:48] | <sfyn> | minor theming patch in http://drupal.org/node/1155782#comment-4461470 |
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| [06:07:32] | <izaiah> | does aegir have any conflicts with private file systems, I am having a bit of trouble and can't find much information on the subject |
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| [06:19:54] | <d1b1> | My base aegir cron that handles all tasks seems to have stopped. I am not sure how to get it started again? Any ideas? |
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| [07:46:05] | <Egyptian[Home]> | hi |
| [07:46:13] | <Egyptian[Home]> | is centos/rhel/fedora supported by aegir ? |
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| [09:09:42] | <mvc> | Egyptian[Home]: yes, see http://community.aegirproject.org/handbook/operating-system-support#Cent... |
| [09:15:52] | <Egyptian[Home]> | mvc: thanks |
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