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| [19:30:37] | <churel> | I have some trouble in install of aegir |
| [19:31:31] | <churel> | It's look like aegir does'nt create the virtualhost |
| [19:31:54] | <churel> | Mys apache.conf is empty :- |
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| [23:20:51] | <skwashd> | mig5, bonjour |
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| [00:01:02] | <mig5> | salut skwashd |
| [00:02:57] | <skwashd> | mig5, ca va |
| [00:03:42] | <mig5> | ca va |
| [00:03:48] | <skwashd> | :) |
| [00:03:53] | <skwashd> | how's life in france? |
| [00:04:05] | <mig5> | good, glad to be in paris |
| [00:04:16] | <mig5> | i see a drupal paris meetup is on in 2 days, i might make a point of going |
| [00:04:25] | <mig5> | just to piss off those of you who are annoyed i never show up to the melbourne ones :) |
| [00:05:03] | <skwashd> | lol |
| [00:05:27] | <skwashd> | you don't show up because it's your turn in our ongoing shout |
| [00:06:09] | <mig5> | :) |
| [00:06:17] | <mig5> | hop a flight to paris and i will shout you |
| [00:07:20] | <skwashd> | mig5, you pay for the hermitage and a 1st class ticket so I can enjoy load of DOM on the way over and I'll join you at the meetup in 2 days ;) |
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| [00:43:44] | <mig5> | skwashd: your patch link in your blog post 404s |
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| [00:44:47] | <skwashd> | mig5, oops, clipboard didn't pick up the copy from the browser location bar |
| [00:44:52] | <LloydPearsonIV> | got an issue when installing the commerce dev installation profile. here is the error |
| [00:44:54] | <LloydPearsonIV> | http://pastebin.com/XxqDnpnp |
| [00:45:55] | <skwashd> | mig5, fixed |
| [00:46:04] | <skwashd> | mig5, what do you think of the idea? |
| [00:46:19] | <mig5> | good idea for module maintainers to handle such things |
| [00:46:23] | <mig5> | jquery.ui too |
| [00:46:29] | <skwashd> | that's next on my list |
| [00:47:04] | <mig5> | this is cool too http://services.pureguru.net/wget-friendly.php |
| [00:47:07] | <skwashd> | mig5, the scary thing is that every time i look at the drush make code I'm shocked that is actually works |
| [00:47:11] | <mig5> | geshi filter zip file for example |
| [00:47:17] | <mig5> | haha |
| [00:47:18] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [00:47:21] | <mig5> | well sometimes it doesn't.. |
| [00:47:22] | <EclipseGc> | mig5: wassup? |
| [00:47:37] | <mig5> | hey EclipseGc |
| [00:47:40] | <EclipseGc> | mig5: you got sessions proposed for london? |
| [00:47:53] | <skwashd> | mig5, it is clear dmitri only runs the test suite before commiting other people's code - not his own! |
| [00:48:01] | <mig5> | EclipseGc: i think i heard anarcat and others did so. i probably won't go. i'm a bit out of touch, on holidays |
| [00:48:17] | <EclipseGc> | mig5: ahhh ok, sad :-( |
| [00:48:50] | <mig5> | i might meet some Commerce Guys in paris in 2 days :) |
| [00:49:11] | <mig5> | EclipseGc: http://london2011.drupal.org/conference/proposed-sessions?track=All&expe... |
| [00:49:55] | <EclipseGc> | mig5: noted, already voted for 3 of those |
| [00:52:41] | <skwashd> | appreciate some +1 bug spam on this one :) http://drupal.org/node/1159098 |
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| [01:05:24] | <joestewart> | skwashd: Hopefully he is out of school now and will commit some of the patches to drush_make. No commits since Drupalcon. |
| [01:05:41] | <skwashd> | joestewart, i noticed that |
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| [01:13:35] | <adrinux> | skwashd: Noooooooooooo! http://drupal.org/files/issues/smtp-1159080-add-make-file.patch |
| [01:13:51] | <skwashd> | adrinux, why not? |
| [01:14:07] | <adrinux> | skwashd: you haven't had issues with bundled make files breaking platform builds yet? |
| [01:14:21] | <skwashd> | adrinux, nope |
| [01:14:27] | <mig5> | break in what way? |
| [01:14:35] | <adrinux> | a bad way |
| [01:14:45] | <mig5> | isn't the fact it's breaking, good? |
| [01:14:48] | <mig5> | :) |
| [01:14:51] | <adrinux> | hang on, hunting for issue links |
| [01:15:02] | <mig5> | i kind of view platform builds as tests |
| [01:15:19] | <adrinux> | this one http://drupal.org/node/1103872 |
| [01:15:56] | <mig5> | oh i see |
| [01:16:18] | <adrinux> | and this one http://drupal.org/node/839580 |
| [01:16:59] | <adrinux> | basically if something goes wrong with a bundled make file, you can't do a platform build |
| [01:17:27] | <adrinux> | I've been recommending people use modulename.make.example |
| [01:17:47] | <mig5> | that does suck, but that's the sort of thing probably needed to get it fixed. if only every module developer ran an aegir platform/install profile build before releasing :) |
| [01:17:51] | <adrinux> | it also removes all ability to specify a different version of the library... |
| [01:17:56] | <mig5> | yeah |
| [01:18:25] | <adrinux> | my feeling is that drush_make isn't there yet for this to be workable |
| [01:18:30] | <adrinux> | too fragile |
| [01:18:41] | <skwashd> | adrinux, it is like downloading a deb |
| [01:19:03] | <skwashd> | it should be a tested packaged module |
| [01:19:05] | <joestewart> | LloydPearsonIV: I just tried commercedev and got I think the same error. No time to troubleshoot right now though. I haven't had any problem with http://drupal.org/project/commerce_kickstart though |
| [01:19:39] | <LloydPearsonIV> | joestewart: thatsnks. i will try that in the meantime' |
| [01:19:41] | <adrinux> | skwashd: it doesn't matter if it's tested. you have no way of knowing it will break at some future point |
| [01:19:56] | <skwashd> | adrinux, my next blog post is going to propose a patch for drush make that uses info files for this stuff :) |
| [01:20:01] | <adrinux> | and drush_make has now way of allowing you to work around the issue |
| [01:20:11] | <adrinux> | s/now/know |
| [01:20:20] | <skwashd> | adrinux, drush make files break all the time |
| [01:20:36] | <skwashd> | sometimes thanks to dmitri ... sometimes thanks to URLs going AWOL |
| [01:20:38] | <adrinux> | yes, your own |
| [01:20:51] | <adrinux> | *not ones that are out of your control( |
| [01:20:52] | <skwashd> | that is the risk you take with the drush make workflow |
| [01:21:21] | <skwashd> | adrinux, git clone ....; hack; commit; update make file to point to own git repo |
| [01:21:38] | <adrinux> | lot of work :) |
| [01:21:57] | <adrinux> | much more than cut and paste the example make file into your platform make :P |
| [01:22:38] | <adrinux> | you're also not including the time it takes to track down what is going wrong :) |
| [01:23:08] | <adrinux> | though actually you have to do that anyway |
| [01:23:11] | <adrinux> | :/ |
| [01:23:14] | <skwashd> | adrinux, part of the problem with tracking down issues with drush make is the lack of error handling reporting |
| [01:23:25] | <skwashd> | too many drush commands error and then just keep running |
| [01:23:32] | <skwashd> | die on the first error ffs! |
| [01:24:34] | <skwashd> | adrinux, feel free to leave a comment on my blog :) |
| [01:25:05] | <adrinux> | will do. don't use smtp auth module so I'm not so worried about that patch ;) |
| [01:25:33] | <skwashd> | adrinux, the background to it is that they're breaching the git ToS |
| [01:25:50] | <skwashd> | so i emailed the guy about that after I posted the patch and blog post :) |
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| [01:26:24] | <adrinux> | It's not that I don't want this to be possible, just that when it breaks at the moment, it does so fatally |
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| [01:29:02] | <mig5> | i sit on the fence a bit here.. a big part of me *likes* the fact that aegir's a tool that can alert module developers to their own regressions, as they have a duty to fix such issues |
| [01:29:25] | <mig5> | probably we lack the critical mass of drush-make users to really make it a good thing (i.e the developers probably don't care that much) |
| [01:29:43] | <mig5> | (if their own makefile breaks for 1% of the drupal community i mean) |
| [01:30:48] | <mig5> | on the other hand it's crap to see your own build die because some obscure 3rd party module's got a bung makefile and you can't easily workaround it |
| [01:31:03] | <mig5> | but it comes back to the same thing, it puts pressure back on the module developer to fix it, which is good |
| [01:31:46] | <adrinux> | well, it wouldn't take much to allow workarounds, in fact I think patches may already exist, just allowing you to —force your own makefile declaration to override bundled make files etc |
| [01:32:14] | <mig5> | but if you had to --force several contrib modules, that gets pretty ugly pretty quick |
| [01:32:31] | <mig5> | maybe a [force] in your profile's makefile, or similar |
| [01:32:35] | <mig5> | to ignore all others |
| [01:32:51] | <mig5> | but then again, what if a contrib module developer puts that in his makefile :) |
| [01:32:51] | <skwashd> | mig5 / adrinux how about off by default "actions" so scripts can be run by drush make? |
| [01:33:21] | <mig5> | and you'd 'activate' them in your own makefile? |
| [01:33:38] | <skwashd> | mig5, --enable-actions |
| [01:33:44] | <mig5> | ah |
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| [01:34:13] | <skwashd> | mig5, misery could have misery.make with "actions[] = "sudo rm -rf /" |
| [01:34:19] | <mig5> | :) |
| [01:34:33] | <mig5> | i love that module so much |
| [01:35:07] | <skwashd> | mig5, if i ever have enough time i want to make a misery plugin for aegir, so you can enable misery for a site |
| [01:35:23] | <skwashd> | if the platform lacks the module it fetches it for you |
| [01:38:41] | <adrinux> | …this is probably less of an issue now we have git, and you can fork a module to a sandbox |
| [01:39:15] | <skwashd> | adrinux, yes or github |
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| [01:58:49] | <adrinux> | skwashd: comment left on blog |
| [01:58:54] | <adrinux> | hopefully |
| [01:59:51] | <skwashd> | adrinux, thanks |
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| [04:32:27] | <MacRonin> | I was trying to find out how to add something unique for a domain to the settings.php file. I know I had seen mention of it before but can't find it again to figure out where/what to name the file. I figure something like local.setting.php but not sure where. BTW this is for "Drupal for Facebook" module. |
| [04:33:52] | <mig5> | MacRonin: you can create a local.settings.php file in the same directory as the site's settings.php and it will be automatically included |
| [04:34:29] | <MacRonin> | ah, That you Mig5. I figured it was something obvious :-) |
| [04:34:55] | <mig5> | not that obvious :) |
| [04:34:57] | <mig5> | see http://community.aegirproject.org/node/71 |
| [04:35:31] | <MacRonin> | um that was supposed to say Thank You not That you :-) |
| [04:36:09] | <mig5> | i thought i read 'thank you' anyway :) |
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| [05:21:50] | <sfyn> | Any way to easily hook the migrate task for platforms? |
| [05:21:56] | <sfyn> | anarcat: ^? |
| [05:22:23] | <sfyn> | In frontend, ideally |
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| [05:25:59] | <sfyn> | ah, hook_hosting_tasks |
| [05:26:29] | <sfyn> | nope |
| [05:30:04] | <sfyn> | probably best just to go through hook_form_alter |
| [05:30:07] | <sfyn> | ah form api |
| [05:30:15] | <sfyn> | the drupal swiss army knife |
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| [05:51:49] | <chrowe> | omega8cc: I am looking for Drupal hosting support and just submitted a contact form on your website. Do you have time to chat? |
| [05:53:24] | <omega8cc> | chrowe: yes |
| [05:53:24] | <hefring> | omega8cc: 4 days 3 hours ago <anarcat> tell omega8cc to update http://community.aegirproject.org/maintainers with the location of barracuda when she comes around (if relevant?) |
| [05:54:40] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell anarcat: we already updated the links to barracuda on c.a.o, thanks |
| [05:54:40] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when anarcat is around. |
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| [05:55:57] | <chrowe> | omega8cc: we worked with Koumbit to build the site and need some help getting it running on a new server, ideally with the latest versions of things. |
| [05:56:11] | <anarcat> | omega8cc: awesome |
| [05:56:11] | <hefring> | anarcat: 1 min 31 sec ago <omega8cc> tell anarcat: we already updated the links to barracuda on c.a.o, thanks |
| [05:57:37] | <omega8cc> | chrowe: sounds great, I will make sure that Greg or Robert from our team will respond to the inquiry asap |
| [06:00:10] | <chrowe> | omega8cc: what version of Ubuntu do you recommend at this point for Barracuda? |
| [06:03:26] | <omega8cc> | chrowe: I don't recommend Ubuntu, we use Debian Squeeze and Lenny only, far better for server systems, much less bad "surprises", which are standard for Ubuntu |
| [06:04:30] | <omega8cc> | chrowe: but if you prefer Ubuntu, use Lucid |
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| [06:15:37] | <eft> | anyone know how to identify a platform or site alias when using drush to create hostmaster nodes from the cli? |
| [06:16:39] | <eft> | per http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/how-execute-site-install-task-... |
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| [06:31:56] | <dellintosh> | question about file path for Aegir-managed sites. We have a network storage location for our files directory, and want to point (symlink) our drupal files directory there… what is the best way to handle that so Aegir is still our friend? |
| [06:32:43] | <dellintosh> | When I update the path on the admin/settings/file-system page and save it, it keeps going back to the sites/sitename.com/files directory, regardless of what I set it to. |
| [06:33:56] | <sfyn> | anarcat: So hook_post_hosting_TASK_task is run by drush? |
| [06:34:19] | <anarcat> | sfyn: yes, within the hostmaster site context, however - and that's the key |
| [06:34:26] | <anarcat> | you're in the frontend at that point, but through drush |
| [06:34:50] | <anarcat> | also: it runs after the task was successfully ran |
| [06:34:51] | <sfyn> | So I have access to functions declared in both drush and drupal? |
| [06:35:13] | <sfyn> | anarcat: Right, I also found hook_hosting_task_epic_fail, or whatever it's called in the doc |
| [06:38:22] | <joestewart> | dellintosh: file_directory_path is set in the aegir generated settings.php. You can override this in a local.settings.php |
| [06:38:46] | <anarcat> | sfyn: rollback :) |
| [06:38:57] | <anarcat> | sfyn: and yes, you are bootstrapped within drupal at that point |
| [06:41:29] | <dellintosh> | thank you joestewart! :) |
| [06:42:12] | <omega8cc> | dellintosh: or just symlink it as-is |
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| [06:57:44] | <dellintosh> | symlinking killed the folder that Aegir created (sites/sitename.com/files) and the contents within… (like imagecache, ctools, etc.) |
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| [06:58:18] | <dellintosh> | We created a new symlink to point to the nas and updated it using local.settings.php… works great now. :) |
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| [07:02:39] | <milk_> | might anyone be able to advise on how one can remove a platform using drush? i.e., the opposite of provision-save |
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| [07:14:59] | <sfyn> | anarcat: thank you |
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| [09:18:33] | <milk_> | is provision-delete much different from provision-save --delete? |
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