IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-05-30 (GMT)

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[11:06:54]<cossovich>still trying to debug this error: "Drush was not able to start (bootstrap) the Drupal database" ..... I get this error when trying to install a site, there's no database for the site yet. Do I need to set one up manually?
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[11:21:02]<cossovich>Once aegir has been installed there are 2 servers, localhost and your hostmaster URI.... I just tried to enable apache on the localhost server and I've destroyed the front-end. Perhaps that wasn't a good idea?
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[12:52:11]<snlnz>cossovich, sounds like your aegir instance is messed up with more problems than worth spending time on. I would consider building a clean server from the install.sh script and go from there.
[12:53:14]<cossovich>snlnz: hehe, you predicted what I just did 10 minutes ago... I've got a fresh install now :)
[12:53:32]<snlnz>:)
[12:55:06]<cossovich>When I go to servers however, I've got localhost with a tick against mysql and a cross against apache and vice versa on my hostmaster URI. Is that how it's meant to be setup out of the box?
[12:58:00]<snlnz>maybe you have a problem with your apache config? out of the box I get two ticks.
[12:58:26]<cossovich>snlnz: two ticks on both localhost and hostmaster URI?
[12:58:45]<snlnz>sorry out of the box I only get hostmaster URI, and yes with two ticks
[12:59:27]<cossovich>hmmm.... smell some DNS setup malarkey
[12:59:45]<cossovich>snlnz: thanks, I'll investigate further.
[12:59:57]<snlnz>cool let us know what it is in the end?
[13:00:08]<cossovich>sure thing.
[13:04:09]<mig5>that is the default set up
[13:04:59]<mig5>mysql listens on localhost by default (unix sockets) and the webserver listens on either an IP or on all interfaces (network sockets) so that your sites are reachable
[13:05:16]<mig5>unless you understand what you're doing and know why you want mysql on network sockets and want to override that on install, you can ignore it
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[13:25:21]<cossovich>mig5: sorry are you saying that having both localhost and hostmaster URI listed under servers is default?
[13:27:41]<mig5>yep
[13:28:16]<cossovich>ok... should both servers have green ticks for database and web?
[13:28:19]<mig5>and it won't affect you unless you intend on having other remote web servers try to talk back to the mysql server running on your aegir box
[13:28:25]<mig5>no
[13:28:41]<cossovich>ic
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[13:29:46]<mig5>if it distracts you too much, you can re-install and add --aegir_db_host=(your fqdn) as an argument to drush hostmaster-install
[13:30:02]<mig5>but you'll need to make sure bind_address is commented out in your /etc/mysql/my.cnf and mysql restarted
[13:30:35]<cossovich>I just changed some mysql user privileges on root so I could get a green tick on my hostmaster URI. Doesn't distract, I thought it was an error that was preventing me from installing a site.
[13:31:00]<mig5>no the red cross just means the service is disactive
[13:31:18]<cossovich>ok
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[13:38:15]<adamb>I've been googling this for a while now with no success. How do you migrate a site from one platform to another using drush?
[13:38:53]<snlnz>well there you have it, thanks for the detailed green tick explaination :) The server I was referring to is an nginx/baracudda instance and out of the box has just hostmaster UrI and both green ticks for mysql and nginx.
[13:39:24]<mig5>adamb: you can't, only through the Aegir frontend using the Migrate button
[13:40:15]<adamb>mig5, I see
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[14:09:13]<boztek>mig5: ... well ... you sort of can ... :)
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[14:12:41]<mig5>boztek: I haven't read your blog post on the matter! :P
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[14:15:33]<boztek>must have forgot to turn the node to 'published' ... gimme a sec ... :)
[14:16:08]<adamb>boztek, you sort of can?
[14:17:43]<boztek>adamb: not remotely - if you have heaps of time you can play around with provision-migrate and hosting-import but prepare for possible confusion and you must run them as aegir from the aegir box
[14:17:47]<boztek>i've said too much
[14:18:16]<adamb>boztek, yeah I've had a play with provision-migrate but it screwed the site and now I can't delete it :P
[14:19:29]<boztek>basically if you are prepared to ruin things play with provision-save and hosting-import which are roughly complementary ways to sync backend and front end ... its fun anyhoo!
[14:20:08]<boztek>sorry
[14:20:19]<boztek>i meant hosting-task verify and hosting-import
[14:20:29]<boztek>i've said waaaay too much.
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[14:29:09]<snlnz>still trying to migrate sites from one platform to another and still gettin schema mismatch error on one module. quite a pain as 5 of the 7 sites didn't complain, and the other two won't migrate. I've tried completely removing the module from the two sites in question and still no good?
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[15:47:57]<cossovich>Pop quiz hostmasters, why would I use the automatic (debian) install for aegir over the manual install?
[15:49:31]<snlnz>to save time.
[15:50:14]<Aurorus>what snlnz said, and after you have verified that the automatic process works on your machine
[15:51:08]<cossovich>ok here goes.
[15:55:07]<boztek>started getting some strange random fails both verifying new platforms and migrating site between platforms ... no pattern that i can tell ...
[15:55:09]<boztek>Could not rsync from '/var/aegir/platforms/XXX/XXX0d42fc0' to 'aegir@XXX-stage.mydomain.com.au:/'
[15:55:35]<mig5>did you intend on migrating it between servers
[15:56:27]<boztek>that was during a verify of a platform that is on a remote server
[15:56:32]<boztek>running verify again worked
[15:56:41]<mig5>network hiccup?
[15:56:43]<boztek>wondering now if it's every second verify ... hmmm
[15:56:56]<boztek>been happening since friday
[15:57:04]<boztek>all weekend
[15:57:22]<boztek>it does say ... "Temporary failure in name resolution rsync: connection unexpectedly closed"
[15:57:32]<mig5>sounds like dns fail to me
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[15:57:51]<boztek>been running smooth for a month
[15:58:03]<mig5>well, i don't know whose nameservers they are :)
[15:58:06]<boztek>at least one build + migrate a day for a couple of weeks
[15:58:09]<mig5>but that's nothing more c omplex than an rsync
[15:58:17]<mig5>i.e: i don't think it's an aegir thing
[15:58:22]<mig5>thats an rsync error
[15:58:25]<boztek>good news i guess :)
[15:58:35]<mig5>theoretically you ought to be able to reproduce it from cli too
[15:58:57]<boztek>you mean just trying to do some rsyncs manually?
[15:58:59]<mig5>if one of your nameservers is flaky, it could be cycling through and occasionally hitting the bad one and not resolving the hostname of the remote machine
[15:59:02]<mig5>sure
[15:59:07]<boztek>good idea
[15:59:15]<mig5>or, another type of test: hardcode the server's IP in your /etc/hosts on the aegir server and see if the problem goes away
[15:59:32]<boztek>hmmm ... i thought we'd done that
[16:00:04]<mig5>or dig @(your nameserver per /etc/resolv.conf) <your remote server hostname> and see if one of the nameservers gives a dead result
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[16:06:39]<boztek>hardcoded the dns as it wasnt done in hosts ... someone just triggered a build ... <fingers crossed>
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[16:09:02]<boztek>worked that time ... thanks mig, i'll look into dig to debug ns prob if it comes up again
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[17:44:10]<cossovich>I'm still having difficulties trouble shooting this error: Drush was not able to start (bootstrap) the Drupal database
[17:44:42]<cossovich>The issue happens when I try to install a site.
[17:44:58]<cossovich>The platform verifies, but installing a site fails.
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[18:55:48]<cossovich>ok... had some faith restored. I've got a vanilla 7.2 platform working but my own custom profile based on a drush make file doesn't want to install at all.
[18:57:22]<cossovich>Are there any gotcha's to installing a site based on a stub drush make file?
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[18:58:35]<mig5>cossovich: not really... normally, and probably more likely in your case, it's a contrib module that doesn't place nice
[18:58:52]<mig5>usually the task log gives something away
[19:00:03]<cossovich>hmm... task log has been throwing the "Drush was not able to start" line
[19:00:50]<cossovich>drush si works fine on my dev machine and the platform has downloaded fine. Feels like a gotcha somewhere
[19:01:18]<mig5>not sure. you could try a provision-install --debug from commandline as the aegir user, but there are a couple steps to do it the aegir way from cli
[19:01:51]<cossovich>ok... I'll try to mimic the task log via the cli
[19:02:28]<mig5>actually have a look at http://lists.aegirproject.org/pipermail/aegir/2011-January/000026.html
[19:02:54]<mig5>you want the 'provision-save' command and the 'provision-install' command
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[19:29:49]<cossovich>mig5: cool bananas, I'll check it out now.
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[21:22:48]<cossovich>I'm debugging something using provision-install on the command line and I've found out that aegir is using 'aegir'@'localhost' for the database... shouldn't that be root?
[21:31:18]<cossovich>I'm getting closer poppets!
[21:31:48]<cossovich>Just checked the site aliases that were generated... the db_server is the wrong alias
[21:31:55]<cossovich>... for no apparent reason.
[21:42:42]<cossovich>Does anyone know if php execution time could choke an site install?
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[22:10:21]<cossovich>I just did a provision-install from the command line after a failed hostmaster attempt. Is there some way I can update the front-end so it reflects the working status?
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