IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-05-31 (GMT)

2011-05-30
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[10:13:01]<patcon|myplanet>I'm gonna toss something wild and heretical out there, but I've been thinking about it lately -- could much of Aegir's functionality be reproduced using regular configuration management tools? I guess the answer is definitely "yeah", but I'm starting to think it would take less effort that it may have once seemed... Views Datasource can output nested JSON, and since Opscode Chef runs stores data in this format, this can be fed directly into Chef and us
[10:13:01]<patcon|myplanet>a declarative manifest for how the whole chef-server infrastructure should be layed out. Basically, Drupal could be used to build a totally customizable front-end for server config management...
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[10:15:43]<patcon|myplanet>Thinking of doing a proof of concept soon, but wondering what the thoughts were. Chef already has the knife command line tool, which allows it to do many crazy things that share common goals with Aegir (such as spinning up and provisioning cloud instances from a single command "knife rackspace server create drupal-instance "run_list[role, recipe, blah, blah, solr]"
[10:18:10]<patcon|myplanet>I'm just wondering whether Aegir could work moreso with these tool, and sit on top of it so that it can leverage all the common goals between the two projects. Right now, chef has a webui, but it's pretty opaque and inflexible in terms of customizing, but if it was a drupal front-end, then it would waaay more adaptable because they're be a whole community of people who would know how to improve and adapt it...
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[11:49:16]<adamb>mig5, is there an article anywhere detailing just how you wrote the jenkins script for the tasks you outline in http://greenbeedigital.com.au/content/discovering-jenkins-and-increasing...?
[11:50:54]<mig5>for which, backups or aegir provisioning stuff
[11:51:30]<mig5>(either case, no there isn't just yet, but i can doctor the aegir ones and put them up somewhere, they are python based and interact with libcloud api to auto-provision virtual servers)
[11:55:12]<adamb>mig5, yeah aegir provisioning. I want to set up a similar thing for my project
[11:57:06]<mig5>adamb: i'll write something up soon
[11:57:18]<adamb>mig5, awesome thanks
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[12:24:17]<jmary>I need to do something quite tricky. As some might already have faced this situation, I'm coming to ask. I have a site in an aegir structure. It is on prod, everything is fine.
[12:24:55]<jmary>On the same server we have another drupal site out of the aegir structure.
[12:25:32]<jmary>I want the aegir site to be reachable by http://site_out_aegir/aegir_site
[12:25:47]<jmary>symbolic links don't do the job.
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[12:26:49]<jmary>Everything concerning multisite is implemented in the right way. I'm not newbie.
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[12:27:08]<jmary>If somebody has any suggestion ?
[12:28:07]<mig5>you could stick in the site_out_aegir vhost config, 'Alias /aegir_site /var/aegir/hostmaster-whatever', but I think you will run into Drupal-specific problems with cookies, domains and the like
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[12:29:43]<mig5>by /var/aegir/hostmaster-whatever I mean the path to the platform of the aegir-managed site
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[12:42:37]<jmary>mig5, I'm trying to understand what you explained.
[12:43:25]<jmary>Understood, I try at once.
[12:53:18]<jmary>I think I should look around mod_rewrite.
[12:53:26]<jmary>But that stuff is not trivial to use.
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[13:00:02]<jmary>This should be quite independant of drupal : just asking to apache to deliver waht goes after site1/subpath from site2.
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[18:06:33]<Iztok>hi
[18:06:33]<hefring>what's up
[18:07:49]<Iztok>can I ask you a question, I have troubles migrating site from aegit to non aegir because I was using alias directory on aegir
[18:08:24]<Iztok>in the standalone I do not have those temporary folders
[18:08:32]<Iztok>sory, link folders
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[18:16:04]<Iztok>or
[18:16:26]<Iztok>why does my site use path to alias domain name?
[18:17:04]<Iztok>so, my site is on domain www.example.com, but I use alias for developmend example.devdomain.com
[18:17:31]<Iztok>and I see that modules and theme use example.devdomain.com paths
[18:17:47]<Iztok>but not all of them
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[21:08:39]<skwashd>Iztok, is the site still aegir too?
[21:08:51]<Iztok>skwashd: nop
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[21:09:00]<Iztok>am yes still
[21:09:11]<skwashd>Iztok, ok, then remove the alias
[21:09:23]<skwashd>clone the site to the non www version then export it again :)
[21:09:45]<skwashd>i'd backup your db first just in case I told you the wrong way to do it :)
[21:10:54]<Iztok>skwashd: I kinda work it up then, I had to manualy replace some path in registery table
[21:11:28]<Iztok>now the problem is in shared hosting, I hate those!
[21:11:29]<skwashd>Iztok, the files table/s may cause you problems too
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[21:11:45]<Iztok>no, files are ok
[21:11:45]<skwashd>Iztok, why have you gone from aegir to shared hosting?
[21:11:55]<Iztok>client wish
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[21:15:44]<Iztok>it is actually context module that gives a lot of troubles, it has some static paths in registery and registery_files tables
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[21:55:15]<skwashd>Iztok, sorry i got distracted
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[21:55:46]<skwashd>Iztok, run drush updatedb
[21:55:47]<Iztok>skwashd: no problem... I got distrcted for whole day because of this migration ;)
[21:55:53]<skwashd>lol
[21:56:34]<Iztok>now I have problem that site is working on the hosting
[21:56:40]<Iztok>but admin pages give me WSOD
[21:56:48]<Iztok>so... migrating is done :)
[21:56:59]<Iztok>and onother problems started
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[22:05:21]<romaingar>Hi ! Just one little question of noob ;-) I would like to test EugenMayer's hosting_site_settings (https://github.com/EugenMayer/hosting_site_settings) where do i have to install files ? in my hostmaster module folder ? thanks.
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[22:51:58]<noecc>darthsteven: An fyi, There is a broken link under item 4 for 'extending Aegir' @ http://community.aegirproject.org/contrib-modules
[22:54:33]<darthsteven>noecc: Believe that page is editable by anyone? :)
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[22:55:42]<darthsteven>noecc: fixed
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[23:13:03]<romaingar>Hi ! I have upgrade Aegir and now I'v got en error 500 when i'm trying to create new sites... I've take a look to logs files and fooud this error.. : May 31 15:06:21 www kernel: [1748499.667432] Firewall: *UDP_OUT Blocked* IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=82.165.XXX.XXX DST=172.30.90.145 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308
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[00:43:17]<ghankstef>this is somewhat OT - making and install profile/ platform for multisite hosting on aegir and can't seem to get the panel page for user profile to be enabled by default - always have to go click it on - - its deplyed via a feature - any thoughts as to how th get the bugger to be on?
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[01:04:44]<romaingar>Hi, I've got an error 500 on created new sites. is some one could help me to understand this error ? Where can i find some logs ? (yes i'm a noob :-)
[01:05:56]<ghankstef>romaingar: apache logs probably at /var/log/apache2
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[01:06:06]<ghankstef>then do tail error_log
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[01:06:39]<romaingar>ghankstef : ok thank i will see this file
[01:09:30]<romaingar>ghankstef : i'm on nginx but nothing special inside my error log file.. i'will try to create a local.settings.php file for hostmaster and enable error_reporting
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[01:12:16]<romaingar>ghankstef : it's better with errors messages ;-) : Fatal error: Call to undefined function hosting_ssl_get_servers() in /var/aegir/host_master/001/profiles/hostmaster/modules/hosting/example/hosting_example.module on line 167
[01:12:49]<ghankstef>yeah - maybe turn off sssl to start
[01:14:02]<romaingar>Ha ? Where can i do that ?
[01:14:07]<romaingar>in modules ?
[01:15:50]<romaingar>ssl is turned off in modules page, i think it's a little bug in hosting_exemple.module.
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[01:17:46]<romaingar>hosting_exemple.module L167 : if (!sizeof(hosting_ssl_get_servers())) {
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[01:20:45]<romaingar>with a little tes it's better... : if (function_exists('hosting_ssl_get_servers')&&!sizeof(hosting_ssl_get_servers())) {
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[01:43:00]<romaingar>Is someone use hosting_site_settings module ?
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[03:11:39]<jmcclelland>can anyone point to the proper syntax for writing to a site's drushrc file from a post verify hook?
[03:12:01]<jmcclelland>i tried:
[03:12:02]<jmcclelland>$config = new provisionConfig_drushrc(d()->name);
[03:12:08]<jmcclelland> $config->write();
[03:12:16]<jmcclelland>but it doesn't seem to work.
[03:12:57]<jmcclelland>or to me more precise...
[03:13:07]<jmcclelland>drush_set_option('foo','bar');
[03:13:11]<jmcclelland> $config = new provisionConfig_drushrc(d()->name);
[03:13:14]<jmcclelland>$config->write();
[03:13:32]<jmcclelland>i exected to see foo = bar defined in the site's drushrc file.
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[03:42:58]<jmcclelland>ah - i see that I don't need to call anything special to save that info in the drushrc file. it's done automatically. i was looking in /var/aegir/.drush/ instead of /var/aegir/platforms/...
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[04:07:57]<jmcclelland>next question... I'd like to add something to the cron hook. i found in the hosting_cron module: provision_backend_invoke($site_name, "cron");
[04:08:33]<jmcclelland>so i looks like i could create a function: provision_opb_cron ...
[04:08:46]<jmcclelland>ok... trying that out in my provision_opb.drush.inc file...
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[06:01:19]<hefring>community => Difference Between Install Profile and Drush Makefile => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/difference-between-install-pro...
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[07:53:37]<anarcat>heeeeello everybody
[07:53:37]<hefring>anarcat: 3 days 14 hours ago <mig5> tell anarcat can you update ci.aegirproject.org to 173.203.101.207 when you get a chance: i've migrated those jobs to the new machine
[07:53:45]<anarcat>we're going have a scrum real soon
[07:53:58]<anarcat>sure thing
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[07:54:59]<sfyn>scrumscrumscrumscrum
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[07:55:13]<anarcat>scrumscrumscrumscrumscrumscrum! :)
[07:55:41]<j0nathan>hi
[07:56:01]<anarcat>mig5: The modifications will take effect at 18:00:00. Server time is 17:55:56.
[07:56:11]<anarcat>j0nathan: allo!
[07:56:34]<anarcat>so
[07:57:08]* anarcat mig5 / darthsteven / Vertice / bgm / EclipseGc / grugnog / joestewart / mvc / sfyn / shrop / ... everybody! we're going to have a scrum in fiiiive minutes!
[07:57:20]<anarcat>jmcclelland: since you started submitting patches, you may want to join in too!
[07:57:28]<anarcat>http://community.aegirproject.org/scrums
[07:57:46]* mvc wishes he had something to contribute :(
[07:57:52]<mvc>stupid client work :)
[07:58:05]<anarcat>s/work//
[07:58:07]<anarcat>:P
[07:59:31]<anarcat>alright, so we're starting in 30secs
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[08:00:09]<anarcat>alright
[08:00:12]* anarcat SCRUM TIME!
[08:00:19]<anarcat>so welcome to our weekly scrum and blablablablabla :)
[08:00:26]<anarcat>I WANT TO RELEASE 1.2! :)
[08:00:42]<Aciid>more aegir harder faster stronger
[08:00:43]<anarcat>i've been itching to make a new release, and since we have a few good patches in, i thought it'd be a good idea
[08:00:54]<anarcat>i could do it on thursday
[08:00:56]<sfyn>WOW THAT SOUNDS GREAT ANARCAT! Is that the release we only talk about in all-caps?
[08:01:00]<anarcat>if nobody freaks out until then
[08:01:07]<anarcat>sfyn: no, it's not. :)
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[08:01:27]<anarcat>i've been mostly focused on working on the stable branch so far
[08:01:35]<anarcat>but i merged stuff around
[08:01:42]<anarcat>i wonder where our gsoc student is
[08:02:12]<anarcat>i'll be reviewing the patches sitting in the queue, so if you want to submit a patch for 1.x, now is a good time to push it up to RTBC
[08:02:19]<anarcat>and that's about it for me!
[08:02:31]<anarcat>anyone else got something to announce here?
[08:02:43]<sfyn>nope
[08:02:49]<anarcat>oh and i'll be working on the dupe client/site visible to anon stuff too this week
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[08:03:23]<anarcat>since nobody is saying anything, i'll just bring something on a completely unrelated note: http://anarcat.koumbit.org/2011-05-23-construire-une-antenne-quad-en-ville
[08:03:33]<mig5>morning
[08:03:41]<anarcat>i'm building a huge ham radio antenna, 15'x15'x14', 11' in the air
[08:03:43]<anarcat>heey mig5 !
[08:03:46]<sfyn>anarcat: wow that really is very unrelated
[08:03:50]<mig5>omg i woke up in time for a scrum
[08:03:56]<jmcclelland>anarcat: i only now saw your response to http://drupal.org/node/1083366. I'd like to follow up and see if we can come up with a reasonable strategy before your next release.
[08:03:59]<anarcat>mig5: omgomgomg! :)
[08:04:24]<sfyn>Would this perhaps be a good time to mention I won't be going to London, and so Koumbit will need a third aegir dev interested in participating in our training?
[08:04:27]<anarcat>mig5: i changed the DNS records as you asked
[08:04:43]<anarcat>sfyn: i already mentionned this to darthsteven, we'll see where it goes
[08:04:46]<sfyn>sl;ash helping us to deliver our training
[08:04:49]<mig5>thanks anarcat. darthsteven has sudo on that box now so there's more hands on deck
[08:04:53]<sfyn>anarcat: ah, ok, thanks
[08:05:07]<anarcat>we're having trouble getting him to sync in during the scrum these days, maybe we can retune our schedule...
[08:05:29]<anarcat>mig5: great!
[08:05:46]<anarcat>jmcclelland: i'm not sure we can get that in 1.x, actually - it seems like this would change the API in a significant way...
[08:05:53]<anarcat>jmcclelland: but we can certainly *talk* about this :)
[08:05:56]<anarcat>and at least get a fix in 2.x
[08:06:04]<jmcclelland>ok - i understand.
[08:06:49]<anarcat>jmcclelland: but yeah, thanks a lot for getting involved, that issue is ... hard :)
[08:06:58]<anarcat>alrighty
[08:07:02]<anarcat>anyone else wants to jump in?
[08:07:08]<anarcat>doing cool aegir stuff?
[08:07:13]<anarcat>building crazy ham radio antennas? :)
[08:07:25]<mig5>hehe
[08:07:37]<sfyn>I am working on an extension to provision to provision ham radio antennaes
[08:07:38]<mig5>i've nothing else to add, i only worked on the jenkins machine since coming back from overseas
[08:07:58]<anarcat>sfyn: you're so lying :P
[08:08:11]<sfyn>anarcat: no it should be ready by quarter 5, 2019
[08:08:32]<anarcat>ok cool
[08:08:34]<anarcat>mig5: okay!
[08:08:46]<anarcat>mig5: i am not sure where to go with that other vserver now
[08:08:53]<anarcat>i've been busy with other stuff so i couldn't take care of that
[08:09:22]<anarcat>mig5: what do you think of a 1.2 thursday?
[08:09:31]<anarcat>or friday in your timezone :)
[08:09:39]<anarcat>(iirc)
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[08:10:49]<mig5>should be ok, i'll be 'around'
[08:10:57]<mig5>what other vserver are you referring to
[08:11:24]<anarcat>mig5: the other jenkins server?
[08:11:27]<mig5>the original jenkins machine is my own jenkins machine that runs stuff on lots of my servers, so i've just dropped those old aegir jobs since migrating them
[08:11:47]<anarcat>didn't you setup a separate jenkins server for me to play with?
[08:11:49]<mig5>the reason we moved it was so i could give you sudo on a machine without exposing my evil little secrets :)
[08:11:56]<mig5>the new jenkins server is for you to play with
[08:12:06]<anarcat>oh, so that new ip is excatly that!
[08:12:07]<anarcat>i see
[08:12:11]<mig5>yep
[08:12:12]<anarcat>so you migrated all the jobs!
[08:12:13]<anarcat>awesome
[08:12:21]<mig5>yes so go crazy :)
[08:12:23]<anarcat>okay, then i guess that's one thing less on my list :)
[08:12:24]<anarcat>great!
[08:12:30]<mig5>i think we intended on not building 'cloud' machines but doing aegir installs directly on that box from git
[08:12:33]<anarcat>one thing i want to do is autobuild debian packges
[08:12:40]<mig5>oooh yes
[08:12:40]<anarcat>yeah that too
[08:12:44]<anarcat>do we still do the cloud thing?
[08:12:48]<mig5>yes for now
[08:12:55]<anarcat>okay so here's my idea
[08:13:00]<anarcat>we can chain jobs right?
[08:13:03]<mig5>yep
[08:13:05]<anarcat>so we have a job that builds the package
[08:13:11]<anarcat>another that installs it!
[08:13:15]<anarcat>dumb and simple :)
[08:13:17]<mig5>perfect
[08:13:32]<anarcat>oh wait, there's another one (duh) - another one removes the package! :)
[08:13:34]<mig5>and we can chain an install + upgrade too
[08:13:40]<anarcat>totally
[08:13:45]<anarcat>so we can have a builder for the last release
[08:13:56]<anarcat>then use that package to install then chain with the upgrade
[08:14:13]<anarcat>the intricacies of this are just scary for a jenkins newbie like me, but it looks promising
[08:14:19]<anarcat>i tried the openid plugin again
[08:14:25]<anarcat>and it failed on me again
[08:14:37]<mig5>chaining seems pretty straightforward in jenkins: and it's smart enough to know whether to not build if the previous job failed, etc
[08:14:37]<anarcat>problem is - i became the openid_provider maintainer now, so i have no excuse left :P
[08:14:40]<mig5>hrm
[08:14:40]<mig5>haha
[08:15:15]<anarcat>kinda sucks :P
[08:15:43]<mig5>fuckity fuck :)
[08:15:48]<mig5>too funny
[08:15:50]<anarcat>yeah
[08:15:55]<anarcat>so anyways
[08:16:00]<anarcat>i think that's it for our scrum folks!
[08:16:03]<anarcat>thanks for attending!
[08:16:11]<mig5>cheers
[08:17:13]<anarcat>who's the grunt today? :)
[08:17:21]<anarcat>hefring: log bookmark
[08:17:21]<hefring>http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2011-05-31#T78299
[08:17:41]<anarcat>i guess i'll be it
[08:18:36]<anarcat>http://community.aegirproject.org/scrums/weekly-scrum-irc-log-2011-05-31
[08:19:29]<mig5>off to work
[08:19:57]<anarcat>take care dude!
[08:20:01]<anarcat>thanks for showing up! :)
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