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[14:53:24]<mig5>adamb: as you requested http://is.gd/hJjGrx
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[15:10:47]<adamb>mig5, thanks very much
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[18:16:37]<shonk>Further to discussions with joestewart last night, I now have a site that works using domain.com but not www.domain.com. Is there something I'm missing? I'm still new to linux and apache... Thanks.
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[18:16:52]<mig5>you need to ad www.domain.com as an alias
[18:17:03]<mig5>first activate the Site Aliases feature in /admin/hosting/features
[18:17:12]<mig5>then edit the site node and add that alias and wait a minute or two
[18:17:46]<mig5>http://community.aegirproject.org/node/60 if you get stuck
[18:18:51]<shonk>mig5: awesome, thanks very much. If I want to have the domain with www as the main one, I presume I'd need to migrate it to that first and add the www-less address as an alias, with the forward option checked?
[18:19:26]<mig5>correct. the forward option is optional, that'll just redirect to the main URL. most people do that
[18:19:36]<shonk>great, thanks again
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[18:49:00]<Aurorus>What is the best way to get the v3 api to return the name or abbreviation of a state, instead of the state_province_id? (That is, when using civicrm_api("address", "get"...
[18:50:09]<Aurorus>uhh...wrong channel XD
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[19:53:47]<ngnp>Our sites are git repos ... when cloning a site we want it to 'git pull' ... are there options for this ?
[20:03:01]<ngnp>Do we write an aegir task for that?
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[20:10:38]<adrinux>ngnp what do you have stored in the repo?
[20:11:19]<ngnp>adrinux: modules and themes directory
[20:12:01]<adrinux>this is what most people use drush make for
[20:12:40]<adrinux>you can have drush make pull from your git repos
[20:12:45]<ngnp>drush make(s) a platform right?
[20:12:48]<adrinux>yes
[20:12:57]<ngnp>I'm talking about a site
[20:13:18]<adrinux>you have the modules in sites/sitename/modules ?
[20:13:20]<ngnp>So when cloning the .git is copied over
[20:13:35]<ngnp>yes: sites/example.com/modules
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[20:14:23]<ngnp>he helmo ;)
[20:14:39]<adrinux>there's also mig5's approach of install profile per site :/
[20:15:53]<adrinux>ngnp: I guess you do need to extend aegir to your workflow then
[20:16:35]<ngnp>adrinux: you have some pointer for that ... extend aegir ... :)
[20:17:18]<adrinux>apart from 'look on the wiki' no :/
[20:17:52]<adrinux>might be possible/easier to script the cloning, and just do the git pull in the script
[20:18:49]<ngnp>adrinux: tnx :p
[20:20:25]<adrinux>I know, I'm not much help :)
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[22:14:20]<Layke>Can I change the front end URL that I use for my Aegir installation?
[22:14:31]<Layke>I have installed it.. but now I want to change it.
[22:14:53]<Layke>I just did a brand new.. drush hostmaster-install, and followed it all again, and it wiped all the sites
[22:15:03]<Layke>(Which is fine - I'm still testing and getting used to things)
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[22:27:42]<noecc_>Layke: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/363
[22:30:19]<Layke>Thanks noecc_. Will remember for next time
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[00:06:16]<sfyn>In my settings.php file I have:
[00:06:21]<sfyn> if (isset($_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'])) {
[00:06:21]<sfyn> $domain = '.'. preg_replace('`^www.`', '', $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST']);
[00:06:21]<sfyn> // Per RFC 2109, cookie domains must contain at least one dot other than the
[00:06:21]<sfyn> // first. For hosts such as 'localhost', we don't set a cookie domain.
[00:06:23]<sfyn> if (count(explode('.', $domain)) > 2) {
[00:06:26]<sfyn> @ini_set('session.cookie_domain', $domain);
[00:06:28]<sfyn> }
[00:06:38]<sfyn>Anyone know if this is code inserted by aegir
[00:07:09]<anarcat>istr there is something like this yet
[00:07:12]<anarcat>i don't like it
[00:07:23]<sfyn>\
[00:07:33]<sfyn>Seems like an awful lot of trouble to go to
[00:07:40]<anarcat>yep
[00:07:41]<sfyn>to set the cookie domain
[00:07:47]<anarcat>you may want to ask omega8cc about this...
[00:07:55]<sfyn>noted
[00:08:03]<noecc>anarcat: Has Aegir 1.1 been tested w/ drush 5.x?
[00:08:09]<anarcat>noecc: not sure
[00:08:19]<anarcat>noecc: but we'll try to port aegir 2 to drush 5
[00:08:22]<sfyn>may have consequences for domain access and single sign-on stuff
[00:08:26]<anarcat>aegir 1 will stick with drush 4
[00:08:31]<anarcat>sfyn: i can certainly understand that
[00:08:41]<anarcat>s/try to//
[00:08:49]<noecc>anarcat: Is 1.2 due out today?
[00:09:07]<anarcat>there's no due that
[00:09:12]<anarcat>i'll try to work on it today yes
[00:09:21]<sfyn>Can settings.php be manually modified on an aegir site^
[00:09:24]<sfyn>?
[00:09:27]<anarcat>but there's a significant amount of work, so it's not likely to be out today, maybe more monday
[00:09:39]<anarcat>sfyn: yes, but the chnages will be lost on the next verify/migrate/clone/etc
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[00:10:04]<sfyn>feck
[00:10:22]<sfyn>hmmmm
[00:10:29]<sfyn>Ok here's the deal
[00:10:51]<sfyn>the way domain access works, it relies on being able to run it's own bootstrap code when Drupal is started
[00:10:54]<anarcat>feck - that's a new one
[00:10:55]<anarcat>mig5: ^
[00:11:00]<anarcat>feckity feck
[00:11:14]<sfyn>feckity feck feck feck indeed
[00:11:35]<sfyn>So I suppose I will need to hook the relevant tasks to ensure that sites can me domain access friendly
[00:11:49]<anarcat>er
[00:11:54]<anarcat>well you have local.settings.php
[00:12:07]<omega8cc>sfyn: put domain access stuff in the global.inc
[00:12:47]<omega8cc>sfyn: and hardcode cookie domain in local.settings.php so modules like bakery will work
[00:13:27]<sfyn>I have neither a local.settings.php nor a global.inc in my site root
[00:13:52]<omega8cc>sfyn: http://drupalcode.org/project/barracuda.git/blob/HEAD:/aegir/conf/global...
[00:13:54]<anarcat>sfyn: you can create the local.setttings and it will get included
[00:14:05]<sfyn>noted
[00:14:06]<anarcat>sfyn: the global.inc is in /var/aegir/includes and applies to all sites
[00:14:12]<anarcat>so that's not what you want on koumbit
[00:14:28]<sfyn>In that case for this case it would be more appropriate to include domain access settings in local.settings.php
[00:14:41]<sfyn>As of what version of Aegir have we had local.settings.php?
[00:15:20]<omega8cc>early 0.4 apha I think
[00:15:26]<omega8cc>alpha
[00:15:33]<anarcat>sfyn: you should see the include in settings.php
[00:15:52]<sfyn>ok
[00:16:13]<sfyn>there it is
[00:16:18]<sfyn>Ok, thanks folks
[00:20:31]<Layke>I've completely forgotten how to use Aegir... I just did a brand new fresh install. I just created my Drupal 7 site which I want to use to "Clone" sites.
[00:20:39]<Layke>What is it I want to do? Completely brand new fresh install
[00:24:15]<adrinux>Layke: drupal-7 platform? you created a platform?
[00:25:28]<Layke>drupal 7 is the site I have done yes. No I haven't created a platform. I don't know if I should?
[00:25:41]<Layke>Obviously I need a platform... but I mean should the site I have created be the platform?
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[00:32:24]<adrinux>Layke: I'm confused about what you've done.
[00:32:38]<adrinux>is your drupal-7 site installed in aegir? by aegir?
[00:32:38]<Layke>adrinux: Independantly of Aegir, I have developed a site.
[00:32:43]<adrinux>right
[00:33:06]<Layke>I basically don't have the skills to create install profiles, so I figure I will get this site into Aegir, then use it to "Clone" and create new sites
[00:33:19]<adrinux>fair enough
[00:33:40]<Layke>I am not sure what I need to do. SHould I use this site as the Platform?
[00:33:43]<adrinux>you're familiar with drupal's concept of multisite?
[00:33:50]<Layke>Vaguely yes.
[00:34:42]<adrinux>well, in aegir terminology, a 'platform' is basically a copy of drupal, plus modules themes etc.
[00:35:01]<Layke>So I should use this site I have done as a platform.
[00:35:13]<adrinux>well...
[00:35:48]<adrinux>if you import your site aegir will create a platform from it, and import the site as a site
[00:36:04]<Layke>That sounds fine?
[00:36:15]<adrinux>when you clone the site, it will just create another site on the same platform
[00:36:31]<adrinux>(unless you specify a different platform)
[00:36:50]<adrinux>basically a platform is a drupal multisite
[00:37:05]<adrinux>so - importing into aegir
[00:37:43]<adrinux>Layke: is your site defined in sites/default or sites/yoursitename
[00:37:53]<Layke>default
[00:38:24]<adrinux>you need to move the config to sites/yousitename first then
[00:38:53]<Layke>Okay
[00:39:07]<Layke>So.. let me get this right.
[00:39:32]<Layke>/site has two directories one files.
[00:39:32]<adrinux>secondly, where is the site? on the same server?
[00:39:37]<Layke>sites*
[00:39:49]<Layke>example.sites.php and /default and /all
[00:40:10]<Layke>I put all of the modules and things inside of /all/modules
[00:40:32]<Layke>This site that I created doesn't actually need to do be publically viewable. It is purely a sandbox
[00:40:57]<Layke>adrinux: The site is currently on my local computer. I have been developing it at c:/e/*
[00:41:22]<adrinux>windows?
[00:41:33]<adrinux>that doesn't sound like fun :)
[00:41:53]<sfyn>omega8cc: The override for cookie domain in settings.php, that omits www from cookies that are set, right? So cookies on www.foo.com will be set for .foo.com
[00:41:54]<adrinux>right, so you need to move the site to the remote server
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[00:42:04]<Layke>adrinux: I'm only developing it on here.
[00:42:09]<Layke>Aegir is on my Ubuntu box
[00:42:37]<adrinux>technically your ubuntu box is remote from your windows box...
[00:42:39]<adrinux>:)
[00:42:55]<adrinux>either way, you'll need to move it
[00:43:06]<Layke>Okay, so I should transfer this site to Aegir, and put it where in the /var/aegir/* ?
[00:43:45]<adrinux>there's a best practice of putting platfroms in /var/aegir/platforms that most people use
[00:44:06]<Layke>Okay, I already have that location from when I first installed Aegir last onth
[00:44:16]<Layke>And name it anything I want?
[00:44:49]<adrinux>sure. though usually some sort of version naming is useful
[00:45:14]<Layke>And as you explained above, do I need to move the site from /default to /sites/yoursitename?
[00:46:06]<adrinux>yeah, I'd do that first, you can always fake a domain name with your hosts file
[00:46:08]<Layke>I don't need this site to really be accessible. (Although I am concerned that I don't know how I will be able to upgrade these clone sites that I create)
[00:46:36]<Layke>Seeing as this is all going to be a work in progress and I will be constantly adding and changing the modules and styles.
[00:47:50]<adrinux>most people work with platform versions. so when drupal 7.3 comes out you'd just create a new platfrom with updated drupal and modules, then use aegir to migrate your sites too it
[00:48:13]<adrinux>this is where drush make comes in, to help assembling platforms
[00:49:50]<adrinux>for dev work you can just work away, add modules etc. just make sure you have changes committed to a VCS repo, and/or added to your drush make file for the platfrom
[00:50:09]<adrinux>platform. having issues typing that today
[00:50:24]<Layke>Do I need to do anythign special for moving /default to /default/site.com
[00:50:26]<adrinux>Layke: but for now I'd concentrate on importing your site into aegir
[00:51:09]<dunkoh>I heard something the other day about http://community.aegirproject.org/ being down, which it appears to be now - is it same issue, or down again?
[00:51:16]<adrinux>you'll want to have the original sites/default in place I think. get a fresh one from drupal tarball
[00:51:47]<adrinux>no idea donkoh
[00:52:00]<Layke>Okay. So I want to add the original sites/default back in. Then I need to create a /sites/all/site.com directory and can move everything inside of default into that?
[00:52:09]<adrinux>Layke: it should be named after the domain name
[00:52:17]<adrinux>sites/example.com
[00:52:19]<Layke>Yeah you just answered my next question.
[00:52:36]<Layke>Okay. Well I am testing on e.com so I will try it with that.
[00:52:47]<Layke>I'll get back to you when it is working locally... :)
[00:52:47]<adrinux>sites/all is for modules, themes and libraries
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[00:55:53]<dunkoh>based on http://community.aegirproject.org/installing is there a version of ubuntu that you could theoretically put a "recommended version" next to it - such that it has the least workarounds and steps to go through to get aegir and drush installed?
[00:56:06]<Layke>Umm.. I moved /default/* to /sites/all/e.com (Using e.com as a host) and it now thinks that Drupal isn't install. I grabbed a Drupal 7.2 settings.php from a new tarball.
[00:57:00]<dunkoh>I've been running into some issues on a new install using ubuntu 8.04 LTS and thinking of moving to newer ubuntu (but not so high that run into issue with php 5.3 being default install)
[00:57:35]<Layke>Sorry, it shouldn't be /all should it.
[00:57:41]<adrinux>Layke: read back :) yeah
[00:58:06]<Layke>Yea just understood. I saw you wrote that, but I thought you meant as well as.
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[00:59:00]<Layke>Strange.. it worked first time. (Most things usually error for me a few times!)
[00:59:10]<adrinux>lol
[00:59:49]<Layke>Okay, so now I have my site that I want to use to clone lots. So I'm going to create an archive and extract it to /var/aegir/platform/d7-2Custom right?
[01:00:39]<adrinux>yes - don't forget the database though :)
[01:00:55]<Layke>I can't bring that with me though can I? The database is installed locally.
[01:01:00]<Layke>I need to mysqldump the database..
[01:01:05]<adrinux>exactly
[01:01:11]<Layke>But how can I get the mysqlimport to work? I
[01:01:26]<Layke>Install a site on the platform first..
[01:01:33]<Layke>Then overwrite that sites database?
[01:01:55]<adrinux>what I'd do is let aegir import the platform and site, yeah, and then empty the db it creates and add all the tables from your dump
[01:02:04]<Layke>Yeah okay.
[01:02:13]<adrinux>have aegir reverify the platfrom and site when your done
[01:02:25]<Layke>Okay. I think I understand how to do it all now.
[01:02:57]<Layke>You understand that I'm cheating heavily.. since I can't install Sites, I need to "Clone". How does this affect where my sites are installed? All cloned sites still live in the platform right?
[01:03:16]<adrinux>when I've done this sort of import in the past, I've already had the site working on the same server, but outside of aegir, in which case it uses the existing db
[01:03:29]<Layke>And since this platform is a work in progress, can I just overwrite the /sites/all directory constantly?
[01:03:37]<Layke>Since that is where my /sites/all/themes is saved
[01:03:39]<Layke>And the modules.
[01:03:55]<adrinux>you specify the platform to clone too, so they'll end up where you specify
[01:04:31]<Layke>Ah okay. And for the updating of themes etc.. I can do somethign like set up a git repository at /sites/all and pull into that?
[01:04:52]<adrinux>Layke: I'd recommend you get your site up and running in aegir then come back and talk about drush make, git and development of sites
[01:05:04]<Layke>Okay. Back in 15 minutes. Cheers for the handholding exercises.
[01:05:18]<Layke>Slowest upload connection in the country...
[01:07:42]<Layke>I'm not a Drupal developer at all... been working with PHP for about 7 or so years professionally, but understand Drupal has proved pretty difficult. I can't wrap my head around the whole lack of OOP either. Too used to MVC and Zend Framework I think
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[01:15:58]<Layke>Can my Aegir database also be hosted externally? I was thinking of putting everything on EC2 / RDS
[01:17:11]<adrinux>never done that…you can have remote servers…looks like there are some blogs if you google
[01:21:51]<Layke>Final question, with Server hostname.. what should this be set to? I entered to public accessible domain, but it didn't like that.
[01:22:06]<Layke>I set up a /etc/hosts hostname.. testing.com which points to 127.0.0.1 and it likes that.
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[01:42:53]<omega8cc>sfyn: you can override it completely in local.settings.php because you don't want it to be set on the fly, separate per site/domain when you plan to use bakery or something similar, so you need to hardcode your expected cookie domain there
[01:43:59]<omega8cc>sfyn: and you have to do that for all sites with enabled bakery
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[01:52:44]<sfyn>omega8cc: great, thanks
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[02:20:43]<michaelfavia>easiest way to move a site form one aegir to another?
[02:20:59]<michaelfavia>backup/restore somehow?
[02:21:07]<michaelfavia>via drush provision-deploy etc?
[02:22:02]<michaelfavia>hrm that would require the platform be in place i suppose.
[02:22:55]<michaelfavia>http://community.aegirproject.org/node/117 sweet.
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[02:23:59]<michaelfavia>"Setting a Non-Default Install Profile" with --profile=profilemachinename wont actually execute the install of the profile right? just specify it for module inclusion, etc
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[02:36:34]<adrinux>michaelfavia: I think that's right
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[03:59:47]<dunkoh>sudo cat /etc/debian_version shows that I'm running squeeze. Doing I still need to use the brianmercer ppa if I'm running ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS ?
[04:00:09]<dunkoh>or can I just use deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main ?
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[04:04:17]<noecc>dunkoh: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/400 section 3
[04:05:46]<dunkoh>noecc: yea, I'm following it - so even though I'm on squeeze I still should use the brianmercer ppa since I have ubuntu 10.04
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[04:07:27]<dunkoh>noecc: I've just been banging my head on this one server and decided to start over so making sure I follow everything to a T
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[04:08:34]<noecc>ppa:brianmercer/drush is for Ubuntu Lucid LTS 10.04
[04:09:01]<dunkoh>noecc: thanks - just confirming.
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[04:19:14]<Layke>I was playing around earlier, and I have messed up somehow.. I can't log into Aegir admin, I probably didn't set up an email correctly
[04:19:19]<Layke>Is there any way to reset and get back in?
[04:19:30]<Layke>I've even tried to install fresh again, using drush hostmaster-install
[04:19:33]<Layke>But that just errored out
[04:19:42]<Layke>PROVISION_SITE_INSTALLED
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[04:38:22]<Layke>I managed to connect to the database as root, and just update users set passwrd = md5()
[04:38:31]<Layke>That reset the password for me okay :)
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[04:57:09]<anarcat>hefring: tell mig5 i would like some feedback on jenkins stuff here https://drupal.org/node/1183926
[04:57:09]<hefring>anarcat: I'll pass that on when mig5 is around.
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[05:05:01]<Layke>Who was it who was helping me earlier? Was it you anarcat? (I can only remember the + and name beginning with "a")
[05:05:49]<Layke>I've just moved my site from my Windows machine to my Aegir install. Set up a test site on it, emptied the database that it set it up with, then I imported the database I had locally
[05:05:55]<Layke>But I am getting errors..
[05:06:13]<Layke>Plus none of the files that I had saved against the nodes are loading.
[05:07:21]<Layke>(Nevermind, the files aren't loading cause I'm an idiot).. but I still get an error though. Is this familiar to anyone http://site.aegir.aptenex.com
[05:07:57]<Layke>Specifically the "Warning file_put_contents()" errors.
[05:11:27]<Layke>(It was because my tempoirary path was set to c:/wamp32/temp)
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[05:12:18]<anarcat>Layke: adrinux maybe - i usually have a @ next to my name :)
[05:12:42]<Layke>Yeah that was him :)
[05:13:02]<Layke>I'm nearly done, just got one problem left...
[05:15:27]<Layke>I have imported my site to Aegir, however when I upload images using the Image field in D7, the image actually uploads to /sites/example.com/files/ but in the Image viewer, (After it has uploaded) it thinkgs that it is available at a totally different destination. The URI in the file_managed is "public://VILLA_BALBIANELLO_0.jpg".. and I have public in my file system saved as "sites/site.aegir.
[05:15:27]<Layke>aptenex.com/files", so I don't understand why when editing a node, the preview things that it is at "/sites/site.aegir.aptenex.com/files/styles/large/public/VILLA_BALBIANELLO_0.jpg"
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[05:24:31]<sfyn>!po
[05:24:46]<sfyn>oh, oops
[05:36:29]<Layke>Anyone themed Aegir nicely? Just looking to seee what you have done with it.
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[06:10:49]<Met4physica>I am on a few months old Barracuda Aegir...shall I update
[06:10:54]<Met4physica>or will I get pummeled?
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[06:32:14]<omega8cc>Met4physica: you should, but maybe read first http://bit.ly/newboa
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[06:34:13]<Layke>Do I create a site on top of Aegir? (like lets say I am providing a service to provide Drupal sites..) Do I do that on top of Aegir? Or do I create an independant Drupal 7 site, that is my actual "shop front"
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[06:35:34]<Met4physica>omega8cc: you've been busy woohoo i'll update
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[08:51:09]<Layke>Can I turn my platform into a repository for Git?
[08:51:24]<Layke>I seem to have archived it and downloaded it a few times now
[08:51:32]<Layke>Then uploaded with some changes..
[08:51:47]<Layke>Nothing wrong with doing that?
[08:53:50]<acrollet>layke: are you asking if you can use a git repo for a platform?
[08:55:55]<Layke>acrollet: Not quite. I am currently in the process of designing a load of themes, and generally unique sites which I will use as a launchpad for future projects. While I am tesitng and uploading, I would like to be able to quickly update my Aegir platform which my site represents
[08:57:23]<Layke>I'm just not sure how to tackle that. All I'm really change is the /sites/all/themes /site/all/modules
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