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| [13:45:07] | <hefring> | community => OmniAuth OpenID Single Signon - OpenID - Single Signon Lives (Sorta) => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/omniauth-openid-single-signon-... |
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| [14:07:22] | <terov> | hey all, can i use drush to administer (i.e. enable/disable modules) on a site managed by aegir? |
| [14:07:30] | <terov> | my googling has been largely fruitless.... |
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| [14:08:01] | <terov> | (also that i.e. should have been an e.g., but that's my lit major speaking) |
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| [14:11:10] | <terov> | nevermind, figured it out :D |
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| [22:59:06] | <Pls> | hey, do you plan to release 1.2 real soon ? I'm scheduling my upgrade and wondering if I can skip 1.1 and jump straight to 1.2 upgrade. thanks |
| [23:12:28] | <omega8cc> | Pls: http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2011-06-07#T80319 |
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| [23:17:19] | <Layke> | Tried asking yestyerday, didn't quite get an answer. Is there anything special that happens in the /platforms/drupalInstall/ that means I can't set up a git repository at /sites/all/ in order to update Modules and Theme styles? |
| [23:19:22] | <siliconmeadow> | Layke: nothing special. Best done as the aegir user, of course |
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| [23:19:53] | <omega8cc> | Layke: you may want to read this: https://gist.github.com/943058 |
| [23:21:05] | <siliconmeadow> | Layke: what omega8cc said ^. She knows her stuff! |
| [23:21:31] | <omega8cc> | also, it is rather bad idea to put platform (or worse yet site) in a monolitic one repo |
| [23:21:55] | <Layke> | I don't feel as though that helps my situation. Basically...... if I explain what I am doing maybe you can advise me.. |
| [23:22:06] | <noecc> | Pls: [10:09:32] <anarcat> but there's a significant amount of work, so it's not likely to be out today, maybe more monday |
| [23:22:47] | <siliconmeadow> | Layke, what she said is *best practice*. It doesn't mean that you can't, and that it won't work. |
| [23:23:04] | <omega8cc> | Layke: have you read this to the end? |
| [23:23:12] | <siliconmeadow> | I started that way and am moving toward the drush make method |
| [23:23:23] | <Layke> | Yes I did. (Just writing something now too).. |
| [23:23:28] | <omega8cc> | k |
| [23:24:40] | <Layke> | I currently have a lot of sites which I am working on, my company requires dozens of identical sites (bar content) which are to act as a information portal... so I figure I will create a Platform that will host all of these sites... here is an example: http://site.aegir.aptenex.com/ (It's a bit broken at the moment but you will get the gist). Anyway, i'm finding that I am already constantly |
| [23:24:41] | <Layke> | changing some of the styles and modules which are available to each site |
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| [23:25:16] | <Layke> | Because I am developing while having these sites in production, I don't have time to finish the styles that I'm working on, and know that I will constantly need to change some subtle things. |
| [23:25:33] | <Layke> | When I need to create a new site, rather then "Create Site", all I am doing is "Clone" |
| [23:26:09] | <Layke> | I was thinking that I can just create a repository on my local development install at /sites/all/ and then clone that repository to my server. |
| [23:26:22] | <Layke> | (Specifically inside my platform) |
| [23:26:51] | <Layke> | Is that a correct way of doing this? |
| [23:27:15] | <siliconmeadow> | Layke: try it - it will work. It doesn't take advantage of all the best features, but it will work. Most of the time. Except when it doesn't. Then you're on your own. |
| [23:27:17] | <siliconmeadow> | I |
| [23:27:41] | <siliconmeadow> | I've certainly done that quite a few times while getting to grips with aegir |
| [23:27:43] | <Layke> | siliconmeadow: The best advantages.. as you say would be to create an entirely new platform each time? And the migrate? |
| [23:28:13] | <omega8cc> | Layke: you should avoid modifying live platforms, the only changes you could introduce, should go to the site specific space, if it is site specific, otherwise you should always create new platform and batch migrate old platform > new platform - there is no need to migrate sites one by one |
| [23:28:24] | <omega8cc> | and |
| [23:28:26] | <omega8cc> | as with every best practice, you can follow it or learn the hard way you should really follow it |
| [23:28:49] | <Layke> | Okay. I don't mind which way I do it. I just want to know my options. |
| [23:28:58] | <Layke> | I had no idea migrating could be used like that :) |
| [23:29:29] | <omega8cc> | there is batch migrate magic ready to use :) |
| [23:30:17] | <siliconmeadow> | Layke for one offs and testing stuff, it might be quicker to simply try the theme/module changes in situ in as specific site's folder, then when you're happy it's working, create a new platform, and clone a single site and make sure that works. |
| [23:30:45] | <Layke> | The annoying thing I found however, is that when I added my development platform to the server, it tried to import the test site I was working from. |
| [23:30:49] | <siliconmeadow> | and then, do the batch migrate of the group |
| [23:31:00] | <omega8cc> | it takes some time to familiarize with the Aegir way of doing things with Drupal, but is well worth the effort |
| [23:31:01] | <Layke> | I am generally new to Drupal, so how should I prevent /sites/testing.com from being important? |
| [23:31:04] | <Layke> | imported* |
| [23:31:21] | <omega8cc> | Layke: hah, you shouldn't upload the site, only empty platform |
| [23:31:45] | <siliconmeadow> | Layke: maybe tarball or remove it before you created the platform? |
| [23:31:56] | <siliconmeadow> | If it's not there, it won't get imported ;-) |
| [23:32:39] | <Layke> | omega8cc: Actually yeah, I was getting a chicken and egg mixup. (I am not creating sites from this platform) I am always cloning... so I actually need to just rename that testing.com to a domain my server will like I think. |
| [23:32:54] | <Layke> | Because the /testing.com has all of my /files uploads in too |
| [23:32:57] | <Layke> | (Which I would like cloned) |
| [23:33:07] | <omega8cc> | then see this workflow as an example: https://gist.github.com/802945 |
| [23:33:20] | <Layke> | I don't have the skills to create an install profile... and was told about cloning. |
| [23:33:31] | <Layke> | And figured that is a good way of cheating my way into doing what I want |
| [23:34:33] | <omega8cc> | well, you should really look into Profiler module and create install profile with makefile to make your life really improved, as using just clone option doesn't really improve things too much |
| [23:34:44] | <siliconmeadow> | omega8cc: can you follow specific github gists, like you can projects? |
| [23:34:53] | <omega8cc> | it is dead simple with the help of Profiler |
| [23:35:41] | <siliconmeadow> | i guess star the gist, eh? :-) |
| [23:35:54] | <siliconmeadow> | yes - answered my own question |
| [23:36:25] | <siliconmeadow> | here's one I starred earlier: https://gist.github.com/914906 |
| [23:37:22] | <omega8cc> | siliconmeadow: right, you can even fork them :) |
| [23:37:56] | <siliconmeadow> | yup, I see that too. I think gists will be my new alternative to wikis :-) |
| [23:38:04] | * siliconmeadow thinks maybe not |
| [23:39:21] | <omega8cc> | it is handy, but I found this all too fragmented to follow (at least in its current form) |
| [23:40:24] | <siliconmeadow> | yeah - that's what I was thinking, just after I said it would be my new alternative to wikis |
| [23:40:55] | <omega8cc> | it need its own 'Yojimbo' http://www.barebones.com/products/yojimbo/ maybe |
| [23:41:05] | <omega8cc> | needs* |
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| [23:41:56] | <siliconmeadow> | probably, but I never really got on with yojimbo. Yojimbo is even more difficult for me now that I no longer use a Mac. Doh! |
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| [23:44:32] | <siliconmeadow> | Has anyone started to compile of list of reasons you might get a "The external command could not be executed due to an application error" error message? I'm really struggling with migrating a big site and the errors before give no indication what it might be. |
| [23:46:31] | <siliconmeadow> | and it doesn't clean up after itself fully - the new db and the files remain on the system (in /sites/clonedsitename), but the site isn't in the front end |
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| [23:47:17] | <siliconmeadow> | Oh! and the vhost file. Doh! |
| [23:47:47] | <siliconmeadow> | maybe I need to clear them out - that could be the issue - taking issue with apache or something |
| [23:49:07] | <siliconmeadow> | omega8cc: will you be coming to London for DC? |
| [23:49:21] | <omega8cc> | I like Yojimbo, I could finally stop searching in bookmarks between 3 browsers and stop doing mess with various stuff like files/images etc. just drop into Yojimbo and tag and you are spending second not minutes when have to find something |
| [23:49:25] | <omega8cc> | no |
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| [23:50:21] | <siliconmeadow> | omega8cc: I like that idea about finding things that easily - I just didn't grok it |
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| [23:50:57] | <siliconmeadow> | shame you won't be coming to London - I thought it might be fairly close for you. Aren't you in Poland? |
| [23:51:04] | <omega8cc> | with zombie sites the problem can be due to permissions not set correctly, so Aegir is no longer able to clear the mess on rollback or something |
| [23:51:42] | <siliconmeadow> | ooo... zombie sites. I'd better get the shotgun out! |
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| [23:55:24] | <omega8cc> | yes, I'm, but I'm busy with my 3 other non-drupal businesses (hence I'm not always in the room here recently) and none of my great partners here (Albert and Adam) is able to appear there, so we are sponsoring various drupal camps this year instead |
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| [23:57:44] | <siliconmeadow> | I guess we'll have to meet in Denver then ;-) |
| [23:58:07] | <siliconmeadow> | I've not been to Denver since 1983 |
| [23:58:54] | <omega8cc> | haha, let's hope! |
| [00:00:12] | <omega8cc> | bbl, meeting |
| [00:00:49] | <siliconmeadow> | o/ |
| [00:03:08] | <Layke> | How do you guys know wether to have a new platform? |
| [00:04:36] | <Layke> | Like I have decided to group platforms by the type of site that they host... (One platform will be for my company work.. because all the sites on it are identical), then I've created another platform for client websites. And now I'm creating another platform for a particular group of clients which again all have identical sites... (They are schools) |
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| [01:30:24] | <shrop> | Layke: If the site code and profile installs are identical, use one platform IMHO |
| [01:31:15] | <shrop> | If they have differences (ex: modues, themes, etc) you can separate them, but I still try to group as many sites as I can around single platforms for ease of management. |
| [01:32:19] | <shrop> | I guess you can also use the same platform with different install profiles since the install profile is selectable at site creation.. that is an option if you have the same code base, but a need for different installation profiles |
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| [01:55:51] | <Layke> | thanks for opionon shrop |
| [01:56:03] | <shrop> | yep.. sure thing |
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| [05:51:41] | <darthsteven> | good evening! |
| [05:51:48] | <darthsteven> | ergonlogic: ping! |
| [05:52:04] | <darthsteven> | seen ergonlogic |
| [05:52:04] | <hefring> | ergonlogic was last seen in #aegir 4 days 15 hours ago saying 'm_ig5: ping'. |
| [05:52:10] | <darthsteven> | :( |
| [05:56:29] | <darthsteven> | hefring tell ergonlogic: I really really want to get the api.aegirproject.org site fixed, can I help? |
| [05:56:29] | <hefring> | darthsteven: I'll pass that on when ergonlogic is around. |
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| [07:12:57] | <michaelfavia> | i keep running into file permission issues and was wondering what the correct chmod level and ownership should be for aegir sites? |
| [07:13:24] | <michaelfavia> | aegir:aegir? aegir:www-data? |
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| [07:14:29] | <michaelfavia> | i guess more importantly does aegir try to resecure the site if i open them up too much? e.g. when i veruify the site will aegir helpfully re chmod the files appropriately if they are too loose. |
| [07:21:03] | <darthsteven> | michaelfavia: no, it won't |
| [07:21:39] | <darthsteven> | michaelfavia: I think you want aegir:www-data |
| [07:21:58] | <darthsteven> | and Aegir will handle permissions on the files directory I think |
| [07:22:41] | <darthsteven> | so you can set everything to 750 possibly? |
| [07:23:16] | <darthsteven> | I tend to use drush make for building platforms though, and that handles all that |
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| [07:40:46] | <michaelfavia> | darthsteven, indeed so do i thx. |
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| [09:32:11] | <theMusician> | Hi. I have Aegir running successfully under RHEL6, but I have to do apache commands directly with httpd. When I use apachectl I get a syntax error in my aegir.conf file. The full error; httpd: Syntax error on line 221 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Syntax error on line 23 of /etc/httpd/conf.d/aegir.conf: Could not open configuration file /var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/aegir.example.com: Permission denied |
| [09:32:12] | <theMusician> | Any ideas? Thank you. |
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