IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-06-22 (GMT)

2011-06-21
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[10:02:25]<AquaticDisorder>stevengc: hi m8 omega8.cc is a legend around here take a look at voiced users
[10:04:19]<AquaticDisorder>an faq that gets the same kind of reply no matter who answers in here, trust me!
[10:06:20]<AquaticDisorder>infact hefring should be answering that
[10:06:43]<AquaticDisorder>omega8cc?
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[10:11:32]<stevengc>Thanks AquaticDisorder, am just looking into setting up an ssl, but will submit a support ticekt.
[10:12:17]<AquaticDisorder>np
[10:13:40]<AquaticDisorder>btw hefring is the irc bot
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[11:39:53]<stevengc>Back again! I have a generic domains A record pointing to my aegir instance, which I want to use for site previews eg. site-one.generic-domain.com, site-two.generic-domain.com etc. Can this be done on the frontend only..?
[11:44:43]<stevengc>Am I better off changing nameservers rather than just the A record..? Sorry if my rookiness causes any head shaking.
[11:49:39]<stevengc>Guess I can use a wildcard dns.
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[14:05:16]<anarcat>!jenkins help
[14:05:23]<anarcat>oh shit
[14:06:02]<anarcat>!jenkins status
[14:06:45]<anarcat>mig5: there seems to be a way to control jenkins from irc, not sure if that's quite safe...
[14:07:46]<anarcat>darthsteven: i may have deleted your jenkins user by mistake :/
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[15:25:55]<mig5>anarcat: i can't look at it now
[15:26:04]<mig5>but if you wqant to check the config, maybe we can block that..
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[16:19:52]<darthsteven>mig5: ping
[16:20:22]<mig5>can't
[16:20:23]<mig5>sorry
[16:20:25]<mig5>not for about 4 hours
[16:20:34]<darthsteven>ok
[16:20:37]<darthsteven>np
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[17:31:20]<hefring>community => Drupal Multilingual => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/drupal-multilingual
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[18:08:14]<hefring>community => Early Christmas Present => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/early-christmas-present
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[19:32:31]<mig5>hi darthsteven
[19:34:52]<darthsteven>hello
[19:35:20]<darthsteven>could you make me an admin on ci.aegirproject.org again please
[19:35:23]<darthsteven>http://ci.aegirproject.org/user/steven.jones/
[19:35:31]<mig5>oh yes
[19:35:31]<darthsteven>:)
[19:35:44]<darthsteven>not sure why anarcat felt the need to delete me :(
[19:35:55]<mig5>he must've been on crack :)
[19:36:47]<mig5>jenkins is fucked, it still sees 'darthsteven' as an admin even though it doesn't exist
[19:37:00]<darthsteven>oh dear
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[19:37:34]<mig5>fixed..
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[19:40:19]<mig5>!jenkins
[19:40:25]<mig5>!jenkins help
[19:40:30]<mig5>hrmmmmm
[19:40:56]<mig5>can anyone explain to me the point of 'botsnack' in irc bots?
[19:41:00]<mig5>what the fuck
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[19:48:52]<mig5>omega8cc: who do you use for VPS in singapore again?
[19:49:55]<darthsteven>mig5: snacks keep them happy
[19:51:37]<omega8cc>mig5: Voxel
[19:52:24]<omega8cc>mig5: they have there voxcloud and voxservers
[19:52:27]<mig5>thanks. you find them pretty good?
[19:52:56]<omega8cc>they are excellent
[19:54:15]<omega8cc>I have been in many datacenters all over the world since 1997 and they are my nr 1, so far
[19:57:33]<mig5>i need something close-ish to australia, but australian xen-based VPS is a totally fucked thing
[19:57:39]<mig5>as bandwidth is extremely expensive
[19:58:02]<mig5>mainly i need just a solid network, preferably xen.. not too powerful
[19:58:41]<mig5>it'll run a primary nameserver so i want it fairly snappy from AU, snappier than US
[19:59:13]<omega8cc>it is xen based and the network is 1st class, we have many clients from Australia hosted there
[19:59:22]<omega8cc>try the ping to 180.92.184.130
[19:59:34]<mig5>thanks
[20:00:09]<mig5>pretty good, 119ms
[20:00:49]<mig5>nice middle ground between some good (expensive) AU vps, and linode
[20:02:54]<omega8cc>mig5: so, do you need just vps for name servers? I have some space on our ssd boxes there, with vserver so it is not a problem if you need one or two guests, unless you prefer voxcloud directly
[20:05:46]<mig5>i'll let you know thanks.. we may end up running some sites on it.. it's for my dayjob
[20:05:57]<mig5>so it's not entirely up to me
[20:07:12]<omega8cc>mig5: ok, there is enough space and power to host even busy sites, just let me know, I will help with pleasure
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[21:31:16]<mrbailey1>hey all -- what is the correct way to change an Aegir-managed site's db password? For security reasons, our hosting partner demands that they be able to change this at any time...
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[21:40:41]<shrop>mrbailey1: Not sure if correct, but you can change it in three places and it should work
[21:40:47]<shrop>1. MySQL itself
[21:41:05]<shrop>2. hosting_db_server table in aegir's db. There is a db_passwd field
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[21:42:39]<shrop>3. The main aegir site has a mysql pw in /var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d/<url>
[21:42:57]<mig5>re: 2., we only store the mysql password of the root db user, in order to create new databases
[21:43:05]<mig5>we don't store site-specific db credentials in the aegir db
[21:43:17]<shrop>thanks mig5.. just noticed that.
[21:43:18]<shrop>:)
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[21:43:22]<mig5>so it's just the site's drush alisa (maybe?) in ~/.drush/, the vhost, and maybe the site-specific drushrc.php
[21:43:31]<mig5>inside the site's directory alongside the settings.php
[21:43:38]<shrop>gotcha
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[21:44:17]<mig5>mrbaileys: be aware that when you migrate the site, new credentials will be generated (in fact a new database is generated and a copy of the db is imported into it)
[21:44:26]<mig5>so you are hitting a moving target somewhat...
[21:45:22]<mrbaileys>shrop: mig5: thanks for the input. I tried changing the credentials in the vhost earlier, followed by a site verify, but that seemed the change the vhost file back, reverting my pwd change
[21:45:32]<shrop>mig5: I wasn't aware about new credentials on the migration or I forgot that fact. That is a good thing..
[21:46:37]<mrbaileys>mig5: yeagh, I'm aware of the credentials being re-generated, but in this case I guess the hosting partner wants the assurance that if there ever is a breach, they can reset the passwords for sites themselves (not sure how this is going to work out with 100+ sites though, they might need to script something)
[21:48:39]<mig5>mrbaileys: the 'changing it back' is probably based on the site's drushrc.php which is in the same directory as the settings.php
[21:49:18]<mig5>you'll need to change it there: maybe that is enough, and then force a reverify of the site (which will update the vhost)
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[21:51:10]<mrbaileys>mig5: thanks, trying it out right now
[21:51:23]<mig5>great - as i may be just making this up as i go along :)
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[22:03:28]<mrbaileys>Ok, the following procedure seems to work: 1. Change the mysql password. 2. Change the password in the site's drushrc file. 3. Re-verify the site. The vhost is saved with the correct password in step 3. Thanks for your help!
[22:09:05]<shrop>mrbaileys: thanks for the follow up.. Your comment is going into to my evernote!
[22:09:39]<mrbaileys>shrop: note that I said "seems to work" :)
[22:10:11]<shrop>haha.. good point.. :)
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[22:18:22]<mig5>there is no other area where the credentials of a site are stored :) of that I am confident
[22:18:27]<mig5>the drush alias is free of it
[22:20:39]<mrbaileys>mig5: well, they're stored in the vhost file too
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[22:30:38]<mig5>i meant other than that (but that the drushcrc.php will be used to regenerate that on verify as you saw)
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[23:55:50]<anarcat>darthsteven: there were two of you, seems like i deleted the wrong one, sorry!
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[01:30:43]<anarcat>darthsteven: you there?
[01:30:53]<darthsteven>anarcat: always
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[01:31:34]<anarcat>darthsteven: sorry about deleting your account, i didn't mean to! i thought i was deleting the dupe but it looks like i deleted the master :/
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[01:31:56]<darthsteven>anarcat: np, all sorted now anyway :)
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[01:32:10]<darthsteven>I was going to switch them around at some point anyway
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[01:33:18]<anarcat>ok
[01:33:28]<anarcat>darthsteven: did you get time to look at the debian package issue again?
[01:33:40]<anarcat>i mean - we're almost there now, just need to make a new job to install the packages
[01:34:33]<darthsteven>I haven't looked at it because I didn't know what you wanted to do
[01:34:46]<darthsteven>I have some minutes now if you wanted to try setting something up?
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[01:37:18]<darthsteven>anarcat: I have no idea how your jenkins projects fit together, or how you want them to, but I can help you get them to fit together I'm sure
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[01:52:07]<anarcat>darthsteven: ok
[01:52:17]<anarcat>darthsteven: so i thought i detailed this in the issue, but here we go :)
[01:52:21]<anarcat>right now we have 2 build steps
[01:52:25]<anarcat>independent
[01:52:39]<anarcat>one builds from 1.x, the other builds the last release
[01:52:41]<anarcat>*debian* release
[01:52:53]<anarcat>so let's pretend there's only one step here for the sake of simplicity "build package"
[01:53:01]<anarcat>the next step is install package
[01:53:21]<darthsteven>ok
[01:53:54]<anarcat>install package will create a vserver in the cloud, a bit like the current jobs do
[01:54:10]<anarcat>then install the package produced in the build step, but using apt-get from debian.koumbit.net
[01:54:27]<anarcat>one issue is how to make sure the right package is installed - if we pass the version number, we can enforce it here, for example
[01:54:32]<anarcat>so
[01:55:29]<anarcat>the debian package is installed, tested (see http://drupal.org/node/1194676 here too), then removed and purged
[01:55:30]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1194676 => factor out current jenkins tests into a provision-test command => Provision, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[01:55:45]<anarcat>so that tests the install and basic things
[01:55:57]<darthsteven>yup
[01:56:07]<anarcat>then there's a third job we can do that would test the upgrade, which would install the debian package and try to upgrade
[01:56:14]<anarcat>but that's later, i guess
[01:56:19]<darthsteven>ok
[01:56:34]<anarcat>darthsteven: does that clarify things for you?
[01:57:01]<darthsteven>is there a reason why we can't take the built package from Jenkins and upload that to the vserver rather than using apt-get?
[01:57:16]<darthsteven>or why we wouldn't want to?
[01:58:11]<anarcat>we could do that
[01:58:18]<anarcat>one of the issues is that it's actually three files
[01:58:34]<anarcat>another issue is that there are dependencies, and installing .debs with dependencies is kind of a pain in the neck
[01:58:41]<anarcat>apt-get does it better
[01:58:46]<darthsteven>ok
[01:59:01]<anarcat>finally, it's harder to find that .deb than just upload it to debian.koumbit.net and then install on a vserver
[01:59:13]<anarcat>checking the version number is actually optional, if we trust the upload worked
[01:59:27]<anarcat>we also have "nightly builds" as a bonus
[01:59:33]<darthsteven>sure
[02:00:14]<darthsteven>so what are we lacking to get the install phase done?
[02:00:21]<anarcat>not much i guess
[02:00:28]<anarcat>just somebody banging his head against jenkins
[02:00:37]<anarcat>or porting mig5 's python script to use the .debs
[02:00:49]<anarcat>oh and there's the preseed problem (that we can't preseed the mysql pass)
[02:04:37]<darthsteven>hmmm
[02:04:43]<darthsteven>there's not a way around that is there?
[02:04:56]<darthsteven>do we need an image with mysql already set up?
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[02:05:52]<anarcat>darthsteven: i don't know
[02:06:01]<anarcat>darthsteven: i need to make a fix for the preseed problem
[02:06:08]<anarcat>so there's got to be a way around :)
[02:06:44]<darthsteven>looking at mig5's scripts, seems like it might be simple enough to call apt-get instead of doing everything manually
[02:07:04]<anarcat>absolutely
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[02:07:40]<darthsteven>I'm happy to give it a go, at some point soon...
[02:07:53]<darthsteven>but it will always die because of the mysql issue at the moment I guess
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[02:08:02]<anarcat>darthsteven: i can try to fix this right away
[02:08:19]<darthsteven>okay, go for it!
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[02:58:50]<anarcat>darthsteven: i'm stuck in an endless loop of trying to fix version numbers for the autobuilder
[02:58:53]<anarcat>because they were crap
[02:59:39]<darthsteven>so it's just building and building?
[02:59:51]<anarcat>nah, i'm doing builds
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[02:59:56]<darthsteven>ok
[03:00:01]<darthsteven>what's the issue?
[03:00:05]<anarcat>version numbers were wrong
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[03:00:38]<anarcat> release 1.1-5 for real and tag
[03:00:40]<anarcat>er
[03:00:44]<anarcat> release 1.1-5 for real and tag
[03:00:51]<anarcat>ffs
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[03:01:08]<anarcat>it used to be aegir-provision-1.1-5+1.sha1blurb
[03:01:18]<anarcat>even though it was really far beyong 1.1 (1.2, really)
[03:01:22]<anarcat>so now it's
[03:01:23]<anarcat>aegir-provision_1.1+16.gd38fb98-5+4.g05a36f8
[03:02:23]<darthsteven>yup, I can see that
[03:02:45]<darthsteven>how do those numbers get generated?
[03:02:53]<anarcat>git describe
[03:02:57]<anarcat>upstream_version=$(shell git describe --tags origin/6.x-1.x | sed 's/6.x-//;s/-\([0-9]*\)-\([^-]*\)$$/+\1.\2/')
[03:03:00]<anarcat>debian_version=$(shell git describe --tags origin/debian | sed "s/debian\///;s/-\([0-9]*\)-\([^-]*\)$$/+\1.\2/;s/^.*-//" )
[03:03:07]<anarcat>that was fun
[03:03:11]<darthsteven>heh
[03:03:19]<anarcat>okay, now onto the preseed
[03:03:34]<darthsteven>ok
[03:03:42]<darthsteven>good luck with that
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[03:13:58]<lukus>omega8cc, hi - could you let me know which version of solr barracuda uses?
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[03:19:12]<omega8cc>lukus: no idea :) but some rather old, as it requires apachesolr-6.x-1.0 still, maybe open an issue about it on http://drupal.org/project/issues/barracuda?
[03:19:25]<lukus>ah okay
[03:19:53]<lukus>thanks anyway.. I think it might be version 1.4.1
[03:20:07]<lukus>I'll can do a check in the admin interface
[03:20:17]<lukus>I'll open an issue and provide an answer when I find it
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[03:23:54]<anarcat>darthsteven: alright, i think i have a fixed pushed now
[03:24:15]<anarcat>darthsteven: i'll let jenkins pick it up, it should normally build a new official package and upload it
[03:24:20]<anarcat>if that works, i'll migrate it to testing
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[03:24:38]<anarcat>darthsteven: but i want to wait and see if jenkins picks up the commit and automatically builds
[03:24:54]<anarcat>darthsteven: once that's done, try to see if you can create a job with that package, the preseed should work now!
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[03:30:05]<anarcat>whee!
[03:30:07]<anarcat>it worked
[03:33:00]<anarcat>hum, but the upload didn't
[03:33:14]<anarcat>maybe the official build should upload directly to testing, as the package in unstable is newer
[03:34:45]<anarcat>darthsteven: 1.1-6 now in testing
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[04:01:00]<Chipie>I' m getting "No valid choices" when trying to install drupal 7.
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[04:13:47]<noecc>Chipie: http://drupal.org/node/952700
[04:13:47]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/952700 => Site form, duplication, and platform access control (saga continues) => Hosting, Code, normal, active, 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[04:17:42]<Chipie>noecc: so what can I do?
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[04:36:15]<omega8cc>Chipie: please, don't post duplicated support requests, see http://drupal.org/node/1196846#comment-4639170
[04:36:16]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1196846 => "No valid choices" for "Standard" Drupal 7.2 profile => Barracuda, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[04:38:19]<Chipie>omega8cc: duplicate? do you mean in irc and issue tracker?
[04:38:47]<anarcat>darthsteven: are you planning on working on the debian install testing on jenkins?
[04:38:51]<anarcat>i mean today :)
[04:38:54]<omega8cc>Chipie: no, you posted question on GitHub, on d.o plus asked here
[04:39:57]<omega8cc>Chipie: also, you didn't notice it was already answered right above your question on GitHub
[04:41:50]<darthsteven>anarcat: I wasn't
[04:41:58]<anarcat>ok
[04:42:15]<darthsteven>anarcat: might have some time later though
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[04:42:27]<anarcat>ok
[04:42:44]<anarcat>i am wondering if i should test the package manually or on jenkins before releasing 1.2
[04:43:10]<darthsteven>ok
[04:43:29]<Chipie>omega8cc: I see. First I asked here, than I posted on d.o. Than I have found the hint on GitHub but "Try to comment out this line https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/blob/master/aegir/conf/glob... in your" did not work. But anyway, thank you for your support.
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[04:44:20]<Chipie>omega8cc: and sorry for cross posting
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[04:45:15]<Chipie>omega8cc: why is "hosting_ignore_default_profiles" set?
[04:49:33]<omega8cc>Chipie: for better UX, it was introduced to help fighting with issues like this: http://drupal.org/node/883412 or http://drupal.org/node/897982
[04:49:33]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/883412 => Default platform logic was deprecated and needed to be removed. => Hosting, User interface, normal, closed (fixed), 7 comments, 1 IRC mention
[04:49:34]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/897982 => Limit choice of install profiles to those on available platforms => Hosting, User interface, normal, closed (fixed), 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[05:06:59]<omega8cc>Chipie: FYI: the tip (working) was here: https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/issues/257#issuecomment-106...
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[06:01:50]<anarcat>darthsteven: do you understand hosting-cron?
[06:02:02]<anarcat>i have cronjobs that are not running here and i'm utterly confused by the code
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[07:32:55]<CashWilliams>anarcat: what were the issues with using drush make files to build platforms?
[07:33:10]<anarcat>CashWilliams: er... non?
[07:33:14]<CashWilliams>can't seem to get it to work, but remember you talking about some version issues or something
[07:33:17]<anarcat>i don't know what you're talking about
[07:33:18]<anarcat>oh
[07:33:30]<anarcat>somebody mentionned wanting to apply git patches using drush make, and it can't do that
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[07:33:39]<anarcat>http://drupal.org/node/745224
[07:33:40]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/745224 => Apply patches from git diff and git format-patch => Drush Make, Code, critical, needs work, 98 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[07:33:57]<anarcat>btw, i'm looking for feedback here http://drupal.org/node/1197048
[07:33:58]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1197048 => cron uses external command; cron only run if canonical hostname exists => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, major, needs work, 4 comments, 1 IRC mention
[07:34:48]<CashWilliams>roger that
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[07:38:33]<anarcat>so i failed in releasing 1.2 this week again
[07:38:46]<anarcat>i mean i could release it but then i wouldn't have tested it in prod
[07:38:50]<anarcat>so that's not a good release
[07:39:01]<anarcat>and since i'm leaving friday for boston, i won't do the upgrade tomorrow either
[07:39:11]<anarcat>so that leads us up to next week at the very least
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