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[14:10:57]<corsair__>hey, so can anyone tell me where i can put custom platforms for octopus to find?
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[21:36:31]<amateescu>darthsteven: got a minute?
[21:36:39]<mrbaileys>Does anyone know what the largest Aegir install (number of sites managed by one Aegir instance) currently running is?
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[21:37:10]<darthsteven>mrbaileys: thousands at least
[21:37:12]<darthsteven>amateescu: sure
[21:37:42]<mig5>mrbaileys: from memory, 2100 sites
[21:37:47]<mig5>by mr skwashd here
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[21:38:01]<amateescu>darthsteven: first of all.. new patch for you: http://drupal.org/node/1201752 :)
[21:38:02]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1201752 => Error attempting to uninstall => Views data export, Miscellaneous, normal, needs review, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[21:38:15]<darthsteven>amateescu: yeah I saw that
[21:38:23]<mrbaileys>mig5: darthsteven: do you think 20k sites (tiny ones) is possible?
[21:38:31]<darthsteven>amateescu: will probably commit after a quick test
[21:38:34]<amateescu>darthsteven: and second: is there a reason for which a data export display cannot use the parent display's pager
[21:38:47]* mrbaileys only has experience in the 10 - 100 site range
[21:38:56]<mig5>mrbaileys: the limit is not an aegir one I don't think, it comes down to the specs of your machine, simultaneous connections, etc
[21:39:04]<darthsteven>mrbaileys: if your server can handle it, then aegir can handle your server
[21:39:15]<mig5>much better put ^^
[21:39:17]<darthsteven>amateescu: define 'use'
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[21:40:48]<mrbaileys>mig5: darthsteven: thanks for the input. Are there any hosting firms that specialize in Aegir we could contact to see what's possible?
[21:41:27]<mig5>mrbaileys: omega8.cc is the only aegir-specialised hosting firm that I know of
[21:41:28]<amateescu>darthsteven: these lines from views_data_export_plugin_display_export.inc:
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[21:42:32]<amateescu>http://drupalcode.org/project/views_data_export.git/blob/refs/heads/7.x-...
[21:45:17]<darthsteven>amateescu: because the exports don't get paged
[21:45:17]<amateescu>darthsteven: my question is: with the 'Parent sort' option checked, shouldn't the export display take the exposed pager setting from the attached display?
[21:45:37]<darthsteven>amateescu: hmm....
[21:46:00]<darthsteven>amateescu: legacy code from views_bonus, and I'm not sure of the workflow there
[21:46:14]<amateescu>darthsteven: yeah, i thought so
[21:46:32]<amateescu>darthsteven: because exposed pagers are new in views 3
[21:46:44]<darthsteven>amateescu: Hmm...not sure why you shouldn't be able to default them to the parent
[21:47:14]<amateescu>darthsteven: right now, the UI doesn't allow me, i'll try to come up with a patc
[21:47:16]<amateescu>patch
[21:48:03]<amateescu>should it use the existing 'Parent sort' option or a new 'Parent pager' one?
[21:48:36]<amateescu>my guess is the current parent sort :)
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[21:55:32]<darthsteven>use the parent sort, and I'll rename that at some point
[21:56:41]<amateescu>okay
[21:57:10]<amateescu>'parent filters' might be a good replacement
[21:58:29]<darthsteven>mig5: are we scruming in 2 minutes?
[21:58:41]<darthsteven>scrum?
[21:58:41]<hefring>Every Tuesday at 12h00 UTC: 05h00 San Francisco, USA (PST), 08h00 Montreal, Canada (EDT), 13h00 London, UK (CET), 22h00 Melbourne, Australia (EST)
[21:58:57]<darthsteven>we are it would seem
[21:59:36]<darthsteven>anarcat, mig5, ergonlogic, joestewart, omega8cc, sfyn, shrop, skwashd: scrum in 1 minute
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[22:01:28]<darthsteven>scrum time!
[22:01:35]<darthsteven>who wants to go first?
[22:01:51]<darthsteven>me?
[22:01:55]<darthsteven>okay, if you insist
[22:02:09]<darthsteven>I've not done much since last week
[22:02:27]<darthsteven>Don't really have anything to report
[22:02:36]<darthsteven>that's it from me!
[22:02:43]<darthsteven>anyone else have anything to add?
[22:03:08]<mig5>i've done nothing this week either.. sadly I don't see things changing from that, either..
[22:03:16]<shrop>darthsteven: I hope to add more docs to community.aegirproject.org soon. Some ldap config info for Active Driectory
[22:03:29]<mig5>nice
[22:03:34]<darthsteven>awesome
[22:03:42]<darthsteven>anyone else?
[22:04:15]<omega8cc>I fixed a few bugs in the Nginx config, submit even more patches for review and also discovered we don't support D7 properly yet: http://drupal.org/node/1196034
[22:04:15]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1196034 => Paths to images are broken in D7 after site clone/rename => Provision, Code, critical, needs work, 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
[22:05:08]<darthsteven>oh hello, that's a bit of a showstopper
[22:05:31]<darthsteven>anyone else?
[22:05:45]<omega8cc>and that is it from me, I think, I plan to submit even more patches next/this week
[22:06:04]<darthsteven>Thank you omega8cc
[22:06:13]<darthsteven>anyone else have anything to add/discuss?
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[22:06:41]<omega8cc>so, what about 1.2?
[22:07:05]<omega8cc>are we waiting for anarcat probably?
[22:07:27]<darthsteven>I think that anarcat was working to get the debian packages built and tested automatically before releasing 1.2
[22:07:36]<darthsteven>and we need to fix the issue you found
[22:07:43]<omega8cc>yeah
[22:08:20]<darthsteven>Well, we'll end the scrum there I think
[22:08:27]<darthsteven>thanks for coming
[22:08:33]<darthsteven>logs?
[22:08:33]<hefring>yeah, ok, i admit, i'm logging this channel in http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir - ask me about log bookmark too ;)
[22:08:45]<darthsteven>hefring: log bookmark?
[22:08:45]<hefring>http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2011-06-28#T88506
[22:12:52]<darthsteven>log added
[22:13:03]<omega8cc>thanks
[22:14:04]<shrop>thanks all
[22:14:18]<mig5>thanks darthsteven
[22:17:13]<hefring>community => Drupal7 support? => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/drupal7-support
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[00:51:14]<joestewart>omega8cc: I was looking at http://drupal.org/node/1196034. I was going to test your patch but the site I checked doesn't have filepaths in that table. They were all like "public://slide1.jpg"
[00:51:15]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1196034 => Paths to images are broken in D7 after site clone/rename => Provision, Code, critical, needs work, 2 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[00:53:10]<joestewart>omega8cc: and we have migrated that site previously
[00:53:47]<omega8cc>joestewart: you would need to migrate some site from d6 to d7 to have there the "traditional" paths there, with sites/domain/files prefix
[00:55:03]<joestewart>there we go, thanks.
[00:55:42]<omega8cc>joestewart: np, thanks for looking into this
[00:56:10]<grape>haha omega8cc i was just installing barracuda on a clean minimal install of lucid and the funniest thing happened! -bash: wget: command not found :-D
[00:56:56]<grape>i love minimal
[00:58:28]<omega8cc>grape: that is weird, because wget is by default installed on the beginning by Barracuda, just in case the 'minimal' is really too minimal ;)
[00:59:09]<grape>I was using this http://drupalcode.org/project/barracuda.git/blob_plain/HEAD:/docs/INSTAL...
[00:59:58]<grape>i got the error just trying to get the BARRACUDA.sh.txt file
[01:00:44]<omega8cc>hmm, no 'bash' there? that would be more than funny
[01:01:06]<grape>it entirely preceded barracuda
[01:02:24]<grape>it is a seriously minimal openVZ image - doesn't even have dialog installed
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[01:56:29]<grape>omega8cc: gnupg needs to be added to the required packages because without it the apt-get update/upgrade/install fails. I can post a bug if it would be easier for you.
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[01:58:10]<omega8cc>grape: well, I don't think it is a bug, your "minimal" is not enough 'minimal', i think, as it is included in every vps with minimal OS we tested so far
[01:59:25]<omega8cc>you should choose more complete OS image
[02:08:26]<grape>omega8cc: I understand where you are coming from, and I certainly know better and keep my own notes on what needs to be installed. I was primarily thinking of people wondering why it wasn't working. The whole OMG it broke! syndrome.
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[02:11:57]<omega8cc>grape: yeah, but minimal sysadmin experience is a requirement already and it is designed for online installs primarily, while any local install depends on your experience - it is not possible to support any hardcore-minimal OS image out there
[02:17:07]<grape>omega8cc: Absolutely. Scaring people away can be a good support policy.
[02:18:24]<grape>it worked for years until everybody got all nice :-)
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[02:28:58]<omega8cc>grape: ? not sure what you mean in this context, it is rather obvious that there are some minimal requirements and it is not possible to support local installs when they use some unknown images etc
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[02:31:25]<grape>don't worry, we are saying the same thing :-) Sorry for the confusion.
[02:32:07]<omega8cc>hmm, ok :)
[02:32:17]<grape>just being a little silly
[02:33:08]<grape>I still remember the searing RTFM flames from years ago. It made me RTFM first.
[02:34:08]<grape>and what I didn't have the skills for, well, I either learned the skills and returned, or went elsewhere
[02:35:02]<grape>but it keeps the support bandwidth open for serious questions
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[04:02:34]<ghankstef>yikes! The command could not be executed successfully (returned: sh: line 1: 6680 Segmentation fault /var/aegir/drush/drush.php @d7.bkstg.artistarena.com provision-install-backend --backend 2>&1 , code: 139) debian server
[04:02:50]<ghankstef>anyone have a suggestion on how to troubleshoot a seg fault
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[04:12:47]<ghankstef>ok! new error!
[04:14:37]<ghankstef>spoke too soon
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[04:22:09]<ghankstef>ok got it going with drush provision-site-install && provision-site-enable
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[06:05:09]<darthsteven>mig5: Just setting up some Jenkins stuff btw...
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[08:59:07]<gmclelland>hello can anyone tell me how to edit my themes as a standard user so I can use my preferred IDE? I added the user to the aegir and www-data groups, but I still can't make edits to the theme files.
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[09:12:48]<gmclelland>anyone here?
[09:13:53]<kindredhyperion>gmcielland: I'd suggest symlinking the themes dir to somewhere in your home dir
[09:15:05]<gmclelland>I thought the newer versions of aegir allowed editing of theme files as long as you were in the same aegir and www-data group? Thanks for the suggestion
[09:16:43]<kindredhyperion>I agree it would be easier, particularly when you have multiple people wanting to edit the file, but I've never been able to get it to work.
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[09:22:30]<slantview>has anyone gotten aegir to work with CentOS or RHEL 6?
[09:23:17]<slantview>i'm getting this issue:
[09:23:17]<slantview>http://drupal.org/node/1202960
[09:23:18]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1202960 => Aegir Install Script Not Picking up db information from $_SERVER => Provision, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[09:24:41]<slantview>we are trying to get this working with a very large US university and i'm having a terrible time getting this working
[09:26:15]<mig5>maybe look at this http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/hostmaster-automatic-install-c...
[09:26:21]<mig5>or, don't use redhat :)
[09:26:49]<slantview>i wish :(
[09:26:54]<slantview>not my call
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[09:27:39]<slantview>mig5: do you know if aegir will typically work on php 5.3 on ubuntu?
[09:28:05]<gmclelland>works for me
[09:28:05]<slantview>i imagine if it works on ubuntu it _can_ work on rhel 6
[09:28:11]<mig5>it mostly will but you might get various deprecation warnings. typically if that bothers you, you can just downgrade to 5.2
[09:28:11]<slantview>k
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[09:52:44]<slantview>mig5: thanks for the pointer for the script. it got my test centos 5.5 site working, but it seems that without the additional ius repos that it won't work. this makes me believe that out of the box aegir should not claim support for those distros
[09:53:06]<mig5>i'm more than happy to not support those distros :)
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[09:54:24]<slantview>mig5: well the bummer is that there are a lot of larger universities that could be using this, but might be forced to support RHEL because of bureaucracy
[09:54:29]<mig5>also note that any docs for those distros are community-contributed
[09:54:39]<mig5>they aren't necessarily endorsed by the developers, and absolutely are not tested by us
[09:54:45]<slantview>mig5: ok, i'll try to get this figured out and update the docs
[09:55:03]<slantview>mig5: aegir should be linux distro agnostic
[09:55:14]<mig5>probably
[09:55:14]<slantview>mig5: i believe this is actually a php thing though
[09:55:19]<mig5>it's an opensource project, so you are welcome to fix it
[09:55:21]<mig5>:)
[09:55:26]<slantview>mig5: clearly :)
[09:55:49]<slantview>the interesting thing is this:
[09:56:17]<slantview>http://drupal.org/node/1202568
[09:56:18]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1202568 => Hostmaster Install fails on line 895 of environment.inc => Provision, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[09:56:27]<slantview>and this one too:
[09:56:38]<slantview>http://drupal.org/node/1202960
[09:56:39]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1202960 => Aegir Install Script Not Picking up db information from $_SERVER => Provision, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[09:56:50]<slantview>both of which were what i was seeing as well
[09:57:12]<slantview>i was trying to trace the passing of the context into the config
[09:57:35]<slantview>whatever is happening in the php there, it is not supported by the default version of php 5.3.x on the distro