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[17:52:33]<futuresoon>ping mig5
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[18:10:15]<darthsteven>mig5: ping
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[18:12:10]<darthsteven>mig5: I thought I had done the preseeding, but apparently not well enough, as it's still not being passed through :(
[18:15:35]<darthsteven>mig5: I can preseed everything except the password it would seem
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[18:23:33]<mig5>darthsteven: yeah
[18:23:48]<mig5>that's a bug that needs to be fixed in the deb package itself I think
[18:23:54]<mig5>or you attempted that?
[18:24:06]<darthsteven>mig5: but the documentation seems to suggest that one can preseed passwords
[18:24:17]<darthsteven>I have not changed the deb package code
[18:24:30]<darthsteven>stuggling to understand and learn how it all works :)
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[18:25:26]<darthsteven>In theory the Jenkins project should succeed if the deb works, which is nice
[18:25:35]<mig5>you can preseed passwords, but there's some stuff in the actual aegir-hostmaster deb package that *force* it to be impossible
[18:25:53]<darthsteven>yeah, trying to work out what that is...
[18:26:24]<mig5>it's in the postinst of the aegir-hostmaster deb I think
[18:26:29]<mig5>i need to look it up, just got home from work
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[18:32:59]<darthsteven>I get an odd error at the end of the script, in the error handling code
[18:33:11]<darthsteven>See the bottom of: http://ci.aegirproject.org/job/aegir%206.x-1.x%20deb%20install/18/console
[18:33:29]<darthsteven>I just copied your other scripts
[18:36:37]<mig5>yeah they are not perfect
[18:36:55]<mig5>i think i ended up avoiding exc somewhere in a test script, possibly local
[18:36:58]<darthsteven>it's not a huge problem, just wondered if you knew what was up
[18:37:05]<mig5>but i'm not the python wiz i wish I was
[18:37:24]<darthsteven>well, I've never written any python
[18:39:01]<darthsteven>I wonder if the bottom of http://drupalcode.org/project/provision.git/blob/refs/heads/debian:/debi... is the reason for being unable to preseed
[18:39:17]<mig5>yes
[18:39:22]<mig5>sorry that is exactly what I meant
[18:39:34]<mig5>the issue is apparently we need that for upgrade-handling, but I don't quite understand why
[18:39:54]<mig5>but that code, as I understand it, effectively 'resets' the preseeding of that password
[18:40:42]<darthsteven>well that's no good eh?
[18:40:48]<mig5>nope
[18:41:08]<mig5>but i didn't gather the implications of making it like the rest.. even for upgrading, not sure why we need to prompt it
[18:41:19]<mig5>it ends up stored in the server drush alias after all
[18:41:23]<mig5>or wherever
[18:41:25]<darthsteven>yeah
[18:41:36]<darthsteven>when doing a manual upgrade we don't need it do we
[18:41:47]<mig5>nope
[18:42:04]<mig5>so i wonder if anarcat was doing a Vertice on me here :)
[18:42:08]<mig5>aware of something, in his own head
[18:42:10]<mig5>that no-one else knows :)
[18:42:50]<mig5>hmm
[18:42:51]<mig5>[173-203-98-77.static.cloud-ips.com] out: SQLSTATE[28000] [1045] Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' [error]
[18:42:55]<mig5>i don't know why you get that in fact
[18:43:05]<mig5>in my earlier testing of a similar script, it simply hung for me
[18:43:11]<mig5>using password: NO
[18:43:23]<darthsteven>yeah, the password isn't getting through
[18:43:34]<mig5>where do we 'test' a connection like that though?
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[18:43:49]<darthsteven>how do you mean?
[18:44:01]<mig5>to get an access denied, it means we've attempted to open a connection
[18:44:04]<mig5>i'm trying to work out where that is
[18:44:09]<darthsteven>it's the installer
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[18:44:18]<mig5>ok right
[18:44:25]<mig5>i wasn't sure it had got that far
[18:44:45]<mig5>since it came up prior to the output of the 'install script' text stuff
[18:44:53]<darthsteven>yeah
[18:45:01]<mig5>maybe that's just how it's formatted on error
[18:45:01]<darthsteven>the order of all that is a bit odd
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[18:48:12]<darthsteven>I reckon that that code removes the password from the debconf db, so that an empty one is used, because I've turned off prompting for it
[18:48:24]<darthsteven>then the install fails because it can't connect
[18:48:56]<mig5>yeah
[18:49:02]<mig5>in my tests, i couldn't stop it prompting for it
[18:49:09]<mig5>so you've got past that at least :)
[18:49:20]<darthsteven>yeah, got some magic in the script now
[18:49:25]<darthsteven>(extra magix)
[18:49:33]<mig5>heh
[18:49:34]<darthsteven>*magic
[18:50:17]<darthsteven>if I commented out the funny code in the config section, and pushed the changes, would the debian package get rebuilt automatically?
[18:51:49]<mig5>i don't actually know: that's all koumbit side i think?
[18:51:53]<mig5>or is that all handled in jenkins now
[18:52:02]<mig5>it might watch the git repo and do it there..
[18:52:34]<mig5>Build a debian package of provision, following the latest changes on the 1.x branch
[18:52:40]<mig5>http://ci.aegirproject.org/job/aegir-debian-auto/
[18:53:00]<mig5>not sure it uploads it to the aegir debian repo at koumbit though
[18:53:27]<mig5>oh, it then autobuilds your aegir 6.x-1.x deb install
[18:53:33]<darthsteven>yeah
[18:53:37]<darthsteven>it should do most things
[18:53:41]<darthsteven>I'll give it a go
[18:53:51]<mig5>you guys are crazy :)
[18:53:58]<mig5>and I suck
[18:55:37]<darthsteven>no you don't
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[18:55:56]<darthsteven>the entire reason I'm into Aegir is because of your screencasts, which are epic
[18:56:11]<mig5>heh
[18:56:21]<mig5>and obsolete
[18:56:28]<mig5>so quickly
[18:56:29]<darthsteven>a little
[19:06:27]<darthsteven>that didn't seem to work :(
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[19:14:47]<darthsteven>erm...
[19:14:53]<darthsteven>why did that one build...
[19:14:56]<darthsteven>ekk
[19:16:15]<darthsteven>I give up
[19:16:22]<darthsteven>need to get on with some work...
[19:19:17]<mig5>this week is a bit fucked for me but I will try and look soon
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[23:04:49]<alesr>hi
[23:04:49]<hefring>salut
[23:07:30]<alesr>deas anybody know how to pass this problem in the last steps of installing Aegir on Ubuntu 11.04.... "Error: Cannot redeclare provision_save_site_data() (previously declared in /usr/share/drush/commands/provision/provision.inc:83) in var/aegir/.drush/provision/provision.inc, line 99" ??
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[23:12:32]<mrbaileys>alesr: looks like you have provisioning installed in two locations (.drush and drush). Removing one of them should fix the redeclaration issue.
[23:13:17]<mrbaileys>alesr: fwiw, I think .drush/provision is the "best-practice" place to put it, not under drush/commands, so I'd remove that one...
[23:13:39]<alesr>so I shoul remove whole drush folder in aegir?
[23:15:09]<mrbaileys>alesr: no, you should make sure you only have one "provision"-folder (so remove one of the two you currently have) -- you'll have to do that via the command line (Aegir won't help you in deleting that folder)
[23:16:06]<alesr>ok, so I should delete this one then /usr/share/drush/commands/provision/
[23:16:29]<alesr>and leave the new one in .drush folder
[23:19:35]<mrbaileys>alesr: make sure you have a backup, then yes, I'd remove that one and leave the one in .drush.
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[23:22:01]<alesr>i did that and it now works, thanks ;)
[23:22:48]<alesr>just the warning about not being able to load dynamic library sqllite3.so remains...
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[23:28:45]<mrbaileys>alesr: sounds less like an Aegir issue and more like a PHP issue. You could try sudo apt-get install php5-sqlite.
[23:29:46]<alesr>i will, thanks
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[23:55:52]<alesr>after executing drush hostmaster-install I get "Drush was not able to start (bootstrap) the Drupal database."
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[00:19:02]<omega8cc>Many people asked in the past how they could donate something to the BOA development, so here is my answer: http://twitter.com/omega8cc/status/86437718724321280 :)
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[00:57:04]<CashWilliams>omega8cc: that deserved a retweet!
[00:59:21]<omega8cc>CashWilliams: thanks!
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[01:49:06]<adrinux>balls. why does drush_make no longer download the most recent drupal core :/ this double release version I guess :(
[01:51:20]<adrinux>'cept 7.4 is recommended. wierd.
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[02:06:06]<alesr>I have problems with drush hostmaster-install
[02:06:59]<alesr>the first time an error shows that drush is not able to (bootstrap) the Drupal database
[02:08:45]<alesr>and that it cannot find settings.php file at ./sites/default/settings.php
[02:10:45]<alesr>the second time I run drush hostmaster-install PROVISION_SITE_INSTALLED prints out and an error about unsupported operand types in /var/aegir/drush/includes/environment.inc, line 895
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[02:52:30]<joestewart>adrinux: is it still happening? mine downloaded 7.4 so I tried the distro.make for commerce_kickstart and got 7.4 too - http://drupalcode.org/project/commerce_kickstart.git/blob_plain/refs/hea...
[02:53:08]<adrinux>yeah, keep happening to me. very strange
[02:53:45]<adrinux>hmm, I don't have projects[drupal][version] = "7" though
[02:54:11]<adrinux>will try that
[02:58:11]<adrinux>nah
[02:58:28]<adrinux>drupal downloaded from http://ftp.drupal.org/files/projects/drupal-7.2.tar.gz
[02:58:31]<adrinux>sigh...
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[03:04:17]<sk33lz>adrinux: are you having this problem with drush?
[03:04:28]<adrinux>might be that I applied lyricnz's patch http://drupal.org/node/698104
[03:04:29]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/698104 => Cache downloaded files => Drush Make, Code, normal, needs work, 29 comments, 1 IRC mention
[03:04:45]<adrinux>I'd forgotten I'd done that :/
[03:05:18]<adrinux>will have to reverse apply the patch and try again later
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[03:19:34]<darthsteven>YES!!!!
[03:19:41]<darthsteven>mig5: http://ci.aegirproject.org/job/aegir%206.x-1.x%20deb%20install/28/console
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[03:51:46]<adrinux>joestewart: it was that patch. all sorted
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[04:01:46]<darthsteven>epic!
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[05:59:30]<sfyn>Anyone feel like taking a look at hosting_services? - I need another pair of eyes
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[06:28:39]<gloryfish>We are int he process of upgrading from Aegir alpha8 to version 1.1. At the point in the process where we run drush hostmaster-migrate we are getting this error: https://gist.github.com/1057145
[06:28:46]<gloryfish>Could anyone offer any suggestions?
[06:37:48]<gloryfish>Let me know if there's any other useful information I could provide.
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[06:51:11]<gloryfish>Is this channel dead?
[06:54:44]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: ping
[06:56:13]<darthsteven>ergonlogic: pong!
[06:56:18]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: hi
[06:56:26]<darthsteven>hi
[06:56:27]<hefring>eh oh
[06:56:48]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: would you like me to plug computerminds in the DClondon training promo stuff I'm doing?
[06:57:00]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: or are you participating as an individual?
[06:57:29]<darthsteven>ummm
[06:57:39]<darthsteven>I haven't fully worked that one out
[06:57:55]<darthsteven>lets go for plugging computerminds a little :)
[06:59:04]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: how's this, I'll say Koumbit's organizing, and mention you're from computerminds
[06:59:13]<ergonlogic>"in collaboration with" sorta thing
[06:59:49]<ergonlogic>does that qualify as "a little"?
[07:00:59]<darthsteven>Yeah, that's fine
[07:01:39]<darthsteven>I'm fairly relaxed about the whole thing, treating it as more of a learning experience than anything else
[07:01:57]<darthsteven>Though I have done training before...
[07:03:23]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: glad to hear that
[07:03:59]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: it turns out we're responsible for promoting the training, which came as a bit of a surprise, to be honest
[07:04:41]<ergonlogic>darthsteven: any chance that, since you're local, you might be able to push the training some through your (computerminds') channels?
[07:05:03]<ergonlogic>it turns out you can only attend the training, if you're attending the conference...
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[07:14:17]<darthsteven>Ah
[07:14:18]<darthsteven>I don't think I'm officially registered yet
[07:14:19]<darthsteven>I'll get that fixed tomorrow
[07:14:23]<darthsteven>Speak later
[07:14:28]<darthsteven>Got to go...
[07:30:11]<gloryfish>In 1.1 is there a way to have Aegir manually generate the vhost.d entries for sites that don't have them?
[07:31:26]<mig5>darthsteven: you did it!
[07:31:35]<mig5>gloryfish: running Verify on a site will generate the vhost
[07:32:57]<gloryfish>Excellent, testing now
[07:33:22]<mig5>darthsteven: what was it in the end?
[07:33:34]<gloryfish>ack: segfault
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[07:46:16]<gloryfish>Okay, so after upgradining from alpha8 to 1.1 we have Aegir up and running, we can create new sites and they work. However, existing sites aren't working and verifying them fails. Site aliases for the existing sites don't exists.
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[07:59:16]<gloryfish>I think we have it now. The Verify task was failing for sites whose platforms hadn't been verified. Once we verified the platforms the site verify tasks succeeded and the sites came up. Thanks for the help.
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[08:00:54]<Fidelix>Is there something preventing me from using Varnish behind Barracuda / Octopus?
[08:01:50]<Fidelix>And can't I use PHP 5.3 with Barracuda / Octopus? Some sources affirm that PHP 5.3 is up to 30% faster than 5.2
[08:07:16]<hefring>community => Migrate from 7.0 to 7.4 fails with DB bootstrap error => http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/migrate-70-74-fails-db-bootstr...
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[08:17:02]<omega8cc>Fidelix: Aegir and some 6.x distros doesn't work well with php 5.3 so we don't use it yet, also, there is no point in using Varnish with Barracuda
[08:17:43]<Fidelix>omega8cc, I use 5.3 in a lot of 6.x projects.
[08:18:37]<Fidelix>And since Drupal 7 is the current release, can't I use the latest PHP (faster) version?
[08:18:58]<omega8cc>ok, but it doesn't remove a critical issue for others so we can't switch to 5.3 yet
[08:19:16]<Fidelix>omega8cc, any way to manually install PHP, then?
[08:19:26]<omega8cc>we can't use mixed versions
[08:19:34]<omega8cc>sure, you can, if you wish
[08:19:44]<Fidelix>Great.
[08:19:56]<Fidelix>About Varnish... why there is no point in using Varnish with Barracuda?
[08:20:14]<Fidelix>Varnish with Nginx is a big win, as far as I know.
[08:21:55]<omega8cc>because Barracuda does (almost) the same, just in a different way, plus Varnish is rather about hosting one big (traffic) site while BOA is about hosting many sites on many different platforms, with ability to turn on/off all available caching levels per platform or per site
[08:22:34]<Fidelix>omega8cc, Barracuda has HTTP caching? What does it use to do that?
[08:23:10]<Fidelix>So, I can't use Varnish with Barracuda + Octopus?
[08:23:21]<omega8cc>you may want to read this http://omega8.cc/speed-booster-cache-boost-and-advagg-108
[08:23:52]<omega8cc>You can, but what for?
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[08:24:30]<omega8cc>you can put any front-end cache you wish, no problem, the question is why?
[08:25:39]<Fidelix>omega8cc, this page only says "Speed Booster" is a "system level configuration". Can you make a quick elaboration of this system level configuration for me, please?
[08:27:43]<omega8cc>it is explained there in detail, and you could read the code to learn more, everything is done in the Nginx config and global.inc file, just standard, passive cache, built-in in Nginx
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