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[10:16:50]<Yurii>hi
[10:16:50]<hefring>ni hao
[10:19:28]<Yurii>can somebody help me solve problem with one time login link after aegir fresh install, im just cant login in to aegir
[10:20:25]<Yurii>im installed by omega8 barracuda script
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[13:58:14]<realityloop>omega8cc: I just installed Octopus, but it doesn't have any of the platforms listed on the web page
[13:58:20]<realityloop>oh.. never mind.. my bad
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[14:02:59]<omega8cc>Yurii: so you clicked on that link already? btw: it is stored also in the install log
[14:03:12]<omega8cc>realityloop: :)
[14:04:20]<realityloop>omega8cc: tho it's wanting to grab Drupal 7.2 instead of 7.4
[14:05:03]<omega8cc>realityloop: if you are using stable, yes, 7.4 is in head
[14:05:17]<realityloop>omega8cc: any reason not to use HEAD?
[14:07:06]<omega8cc>well, it always includes some new stuff, not tested enough times, so you should not use it in production, unless you are crazy like me :)
[14:09:04]<omega8cc>realityloop: anyway, we will release new stable today
[14:09:53]<realityloop>omega8cc: can I install HEAD over the top?
[14:10:12]<omega8cc>there are still some bugs in Aegir waiting for solutions, like broken images paths on migration from D6 to D7
[14:10:40]<omega8cc>realityloop: what version you have there now?
[14:11:00]<realityloop>omega8cc: current stable of both Barracuda and Octopus
[14:11:17]<omega8cc>then yes, you can
[14:11:33]<omega8cc>just read the configuration closely
[14:11:47]<omega8cc>as we changed how the platforms list is configured
[14:12:00]<realityloop>should I go HEAD with both or just Octopus?
[14:12:25]<omega8cc>I mean, you can pre-configure it instead of saying yes/no to all options
[14:12:27]<realityloop>also sql buddy, how do we access it?
[14:12:28]<omega8cc>both
[14:12:55]<omega8cc>well, you should save the links displayed when you installed Barracuda
[14:13:15]<omega8cc>we probably need to put them in some welcome e-mail
[14:13:41]<realityloop>omega8cc: I didn't get any links displayed using Stable.. I know they get displayed using HEAD tho
[14:13:57]<omega8cc>you can find sql buddy url in the /var/aegir/config/server_master/nginx/vhost.d dir
[14:14:21]<omega8cc>they are always displayed on initial install
[14:14:30]<omega8cc>never on upgrade
[14:14:38]<realityloop>I did upgrade from HEAD to stable.. thats probably why..
[14:14:54]<omega8cc>and stable/head doesn't make any difference
[14:15:08]<omega8cc>anyway, go to /var/aegir/config/server_master/nginx/vhost.d
[14:15:39]<realityloop>yep.. got it.. thanks
[14:16:10]<omega8cc>feel free to open an issue about it
[14:16:45]<omega8cc>I mean the initial info/links sent in some welcome e-mail
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[14:29:06]<realityloop>omega8cc: any way to start again (clear old installes of Barracuda and Octopus) without full re-setup of my box?
[14:30:17]<omega8cc>no, but why?
[14:30:30]<realityloop>was just wondering
[14:31:08]<omega8cc>you could wipe out Octopus instance, but not Barracuda
[14:31:24]<omega8cc>because it is related to system level stuff
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[14:32:22]<omega8cc>like you can uninstall an app on your pc, but you can't uninstall the OS without uninstalling the system :)
[14:32:40]<realityloop>yep :)
[14:34:55]<realityloop>is head smart enough to remove sql buddy?
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[15:34:59]<omega8cc>realityloop: remove? no, it will upgrade only, if possible, it doesn't remove anything once it is installed
[15:35:46]<realityloop>omega8cc: ok.. I now have hostmaster and 002 platforms that appear to be the same thing.. but can't migrate between them to clear things up/..
[15:36:33]<omega8cc>migrate between what?
[15:38:27]<omega8cc>realityloop: give me the paths of the stuff you would like to migrate as I'm not sure what you mean
[15:42:47]<realityloop>omega8cc: hosting/c/platform_002 (where hostmaster install is now) used to be in hosting/c/platform_hostmaster
[15:43:04]<omega8cc>that is correct
[15:43:26]<omega8cc>it is no longer named 'hostmaster' on upgrade
[15:43:57]<realityloop>I can delete hostmaster and rename platform_002??
[15:44:07]<omega8cc>you can safely delete the old hostmaster platforms
[15:44:11]<omega8cc>nono
[15:44:20]<omega8cc>don't fo that
[15:44:32]<omega8cc>don't modify anything
[15:44:50]<omega8cc>it should be managed via Barracuda/Octopus *only*
[15:44:55]<realityloop>ok
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[16:34:30]<realityloop>is there a best practice way for moving a site between hostmasters?
[16:43:20]<mig5>this seems to be one way to do it: http://netengine.com.au/blog/moving-drupal-sites-between-aegir-instances
[16:43:24]<mig5>there's no official or 'best' way really
[16:43:37]<mig5>somehow you need to get the tarball frmo one to the other and imprort
[16:43:39]<mig5>import*
[16:43:53]<mig5>his way allows you to do the import as a 'restore' through the frontend
[16:44:01]<mig5>by overwriting a previous backup on the target host
[16:46:09]<mrbaileys>realityloop: mig5: we move the tarball to the new environment, then use provision-save (if the alias does not yet exist) + provision-deploy followed by reverifying the platform.
[16:46:23]<mig5>^^ that's the other way
[16:46:46]<realityloop>thanks guys
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[20:52:16]<merro>Hello - does anyone have any ideas on why i'm getting "no valid choices" for all install profiles except Testing after adding drupal 7.4 as a platform? (on Barracuda stable)
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[03:28:14]<Met4physica>omgega8cc - running BARRACUDA upgrade, its still going but said "/usr/local/bin/php: Symbol `client_errors' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking"
[03:28:21]<Met4physica>is that a huge warning that something has failed?
[03:28:41]<Met4physica>thanks in advance
[03:30:10]<omega8cc>that is expected on database server upgrade, as it needs to rebuild also php-fpm, so it's fine
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[03:33:22]<Met4physica>thanks. since i've been doing this, this whole effort has become really popular and professional, congrats
[03:33:31]<Met4physica>its really coming through!
[03:34:56]<omega8cc>thanks!
[03:35:28]<Met4physica>every time i upgrade though nginx wont start and i get nginx: [emerg] zero size shared memory zone "uploads" Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[03:35:40]<Met4physica>I know you said that's been fixed, so I wonder wtf
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[03:37:09]<tikigod>ok well I was directed here through the aegir website. Is it ok to ask a question in here?
[03:37:39]<omega8cc>Met4physica: it looks like you have some old broken config still, make sure Barracuda really upgrades the main hostmaster (as it may fail silently if you don't have debug enabled) and the site is migrated to the new directory as expected
[03:38:19]<Met4physica>is it safe to run the upgrade script again and enable debug?
[03:38:26]<omega8cc>tikigod: don't ask if you can ask ;)
[03:38:38]<omega8cc>Met4physica: yes
[03:38:58]<tikigod>good good intelligence I like that
[03:39:12]<Met4physica>this project is defined by intelligence!
[03:39:17]<omega8cc>Met4physica: and the watch for the output on screen on hostmaster upgrade - if it is completed or maybe rollback happened
[03:40:56]<tikigod>Ok well I am a noob but I was givin the task to come up with a drupal solution. After searching for a while I came upon aegir. I downloaded the aegir virtual appliance and was able to install this successfully I guess my question is what now?
[03:42:16]<tikigod>I guess if someone has some help you can pm me..
[03:43:06]<Met4physica>Aegir will host one or many of your Drupal sites
[03:43:19]<Met4physica>building a Drupal site itself is independent of using Aegir to manage Drupal sites, mostly
[03:43:25]<omega8cc>tikigod: a good start will be by following the how-to: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/20 and thenhttp://community.aegirproject.org/node/22
[03:43:43]<omega8cc>ouh, http://community.aegirproject.org/node/22
[03:44:15]<tikigod0321>much appreciated for the direction
[03:44:37]<omega8cc>np
[03:44:50]<Met4physica>omega8cc: I ran the upgrader again with debug on, and i don't see any [errors]
[03:45:14]<omega8cc>Met4physica: ok, so that is a good news
[03:45:28]<Met4physica>my previous fix up adding upload_progress uploads 1m; to nginx config still fixes my problem
[03:45:36]<Met4physica>i just wonder why i have to fix it every time i update
[03:45:57]<omega8cc>Met4physica: yeah, that is weird
[03:46:34]<omega8cc>Met4physica: I can take a look, if you wish
[03:46:39]<Met4physica>Weird! It was worked, upgraded, stopped working. I applied fix. Upgraded again. Then it still works! No need to apply fix
[03:46:54]<Met4physica>I suppose that = problem solved?
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[03:47:30]<Met4physica>Sure - maybe you could inform me if I 'm upgraded or still running an ancient year old Aeigr like a dummie
[03:47:35]<omega8cc>Met4physica: yep, it seems, if you can restart Nginx just after completing the upgrade
[03:47:53]<Met4physica>No! you caught it
[03:47:58]<Met4physica>I try to restart, and I get the error again
[03:48:01]<omega8cc>I mean yep to problem solved
[03:48:10]<omega8cc>yeah
[03:48:16]<Met4physica>nginx: [emerg] zero size shared memory zone "uploads"
[03:48:16]<Met4physica> haunts me still
[03:48:23]<omega8cc>ok, so
[03:49:20]<omega8cc>Met4physica: pm?
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[07:55:04]<scottalan>where does aegir add virtualhosts by default? Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[08:06:18]<iribarne>I am a beginner with Aegir, but I think it creates them in /var/aegir/config/server_master/apache/vhost.d
[08:07:45]<fsala>please, on an Octopus install is it best to put new platforms on /data/all/001 or on a separate path?
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[08:08:34]<iribarne>I was referring to Aegir 1.1
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[08:11:56]<iribarne>This command from root will show apache info: apache2ctl -S
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[09:04:35]<realityloop>omega8cc: is it possible to force https on the chive instance?
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[09:33:01]<heliogabal>Hi everybody. Anyone know how to kill a hanging task in the aegir queue? Installed Drupal 7 with Octopus 8.7 just fine, but the throbbler is running for a day now, preventing other tasks to run...
[09:34:02]<omega8cc>fsala: it is explained in the welcome e-mail you received after you created Octopus instance
[09:34:25]<omega8cc>realityloop: maybe, but we can't do that by default
[09:35:24]<omega8cc>heliogabal: hmm, please read http://omega8.cc/aegir-task-fails-or-spins-forever-126 + comments
[09:36:24]<fsala>omega8cc: thanks, found! (mail was delayed :-) )
[09:36:27]<realityloop>omega8cc: I don't mind if it's a manul task, but given we're initially logging in with our root mysql password it would be nice for it to be https
[09:38:28]<omega8cc>realityloop: then simply edit chive vhost and put port 443 there, but hey, never use mysql root password on the web!
[09:38:57]<realityloop>omega8cc: there are no other accounts to use initially
[09:39:03]<omega8cc>fsala: great!
[09:39:20]<heliogabal>omega8cc: wow, I didn't check there for some days, and there's already a ton of new and really helpful content. Thanks for pointing me to this one. You're really doing an awesome job!
[09:39:23]* psynaptic is now known as psynaptic|away
[09:39:44]<omega8cc>realityloop: there is no reason to use root there, use site's credentials instead
[09:40:17]<omega8cc>heliogabal: thanks! we just starting :)
[09:40:51]<heliogabal>omega8cc: can't wait to see more ;-)
[09:42:34]<omega8cc>heliogabal: I will try to keep this at minimum, yet, there are still many more to add
[09:44:06]<fsala>omega8cc: discovered possibly a small bug in octopus (near line 831). If you go with _MY_OWNIP and DNS_SETUP_TES=NO, _THISHTIP is not set... and configs are broken
[09:45:11]<omega8cc>fsala: please post an issue :)
[09:45:15]<heliogabal>omega8cc: they're just immensely useful to wrap his head around the concept and prevent a lot of pitfalls. That way, we don't have to bug you with all these noobie problems and you can concentrate on actual work...
[09:46:04]<fsala>omega8cc: or better... it is set by "host $_domain ...", but it's safer to use _MY_OWNIP, because, as in my case (Ipv4 and IPV6 on servers), "host" give wrong parsing...
[09:46:16]<fsala>omega8cc: yes, I'll post :-)
[09:47:04]<omega8cc>heliogabal: it took some time to collect all this stuff from the real world experience, but yeah, it gives me more free time now :)
[09:47:36]<omega8cc>fsala: thanks in advance!
[09:50:15]<heliogabal>omega8cc: you earned it :-) deleting the task node worked like described, all good now.
[09:52:14]<omega8cc>heliogabal: sometimes there is no choice and you have to delete something that way, however always think twice before :)
[09:54:04]<omega8cc>heliogabal: also, you could revert the task to previous revision, if exists, so no need to delete the node, but often there is no previous revision
[09:58:03]<heliogabal>omega8cc: I'll be carefull... but am happy that verify worked. Possibility to revert is also good to know. Though for my install task, don't think that there was a revision...
[09:58:13]<realityloop>omega8cc: is it possible to download one of the octopus platforms to a regular hostmaster? I'd like to migrate a site to it before moving it to the octopus instance
[09:59:40]<omega8cc>realityloop: "regular hostmaster"?
[09:59:47]<realityloop>or alternatively, could I migrate a Drupal 7.4 site to CiviCRM 4.0.4?
[09:59:56]<omega8cc>yes