IRC logs for #aegir, 2011-07-05 (GMT)

2011-07-04
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[10:00:04]<realityloop>omega8cc: a hostmaster set up independant of Barracuda or Octopus
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[10:01:14]<omega8cc>realityloop: we already added some hidden inter-platforms migration paths, as explained in http://omega8.cc/migrate-sites-between-install-profiles-easily-111
[10:02:11]<realityloop>omega8cc: thanks
[10:02:31]<omega8cc>realityloop: so on different server? sure, you can simply copy the platform, fix permissions/ownership, import databases and add the platform there
[10:12:43]<omega8cc>mig5: should I share my wget recipe to archive your site? :)
[10:12:52]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: hi, a quick question re: custom platforms, if i add a platform to /var/aegir/platforms, will it be picked up by any and all octopi, or just barracuda, or?
[10:13:11]<omega8cc>mig5: I mean to share with the world :)
[10:14:39]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: permissions, permissions.. don't try to cross /var/aegir with /data/disk, it will never work
[10:14:48]<mig5>omega8cc: sure thing
[10:14:52]<mig5>opensource it :P
[10:15:00]<omega8cc>haha
[10:15:39]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: err, so if i want to make a custom platform available to my octopi, then i should put it...err where?
[10:16:12]<omega8cc>mig5: wget -b -m -k -p -E --random-wait --user-agent=iCab -erobots=off --tries=5 --domains=mig5.net http://mig5.net/
[10:16:25]<realityloop>omega8cc: the CiviCRM install profiles don't contain a ‘name’ => variable http://omega8.cc/migrate-sites-between-install-profiles-easily-111
[10:16:35]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: /data/disk/<octopus name>/platforms ?
[10:17:15]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: read the welcome e-mail sent for Octopus instance
[10:17:37]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: best practice is explained there
[10:17:49]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: in short: in /static
[10:18:35]<omega8cc>but sure, you could use also /platforms but then you don't have an access there for your o1.ftp user
[10:20:07]<omega8cc>realityloop: you don't need this trick for civi, because it is built on standard core profiles
[10:20:28]<realityloop>omega8cc: I got error trying to migrate from Drupal 7.4 to CiviCRM 4.0.4
[10:21:04]<omega8cc>realityloop: hmmm
[10:21:18]<realityloop>let me pastebin it
[10:21:39]<omega8cc>4.0.4 should use latest 7.x core
[10:21:52]<omega8cc>so it should work
[10:23:06]<realityloop>omega8cc: http://pastebin.com/EcuLmGgB
[10:23:22]<omega8cc>mig5: so with this recipe your deny rule in robots.txt will not stop me ;)
[10:24:32]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: i don't really care re: ftp/ssh access, the users of this particular site won't have such access
[10:25:03]<omega8cc>realityloop: so you re-verified source and target platform and the site?
[10:26:19]<omega8cc>realityloop: I tested it before and it worked fine, I was able to migrate from acquia to civi etc, but I tested blank sites only, so maybe some contrib stuff breaks something
[10:26:44]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: then use /data/disk/<octopus name>/platforms
[10:28:15]<halcyonCorsair>ok
[10:28:59]<omega8cc>realityloop: out of curiosity, check if the civi platform really has the 7.4 core
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[10:29:40]<realityloop>omega8cc: checking now
[10:31:23]<realityloop>omega8cc: Release: drupal 7.4 (fresh install using head of Barracuda and Octopus)
[10:32:22]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: is there some documentation on running drush commands for octopus to do things like provision-save? eg. the user to run as/the root, etc?
[10:33:29]<omega8cc>realityloop: then no idea, maybe try to migrate blank site to make sure if the bug is in the provision_civicrm or it is caused by some contrib
[10:35:34]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: no docs, but there is nothing specific, it is standard Aegir install, so just su -s /bin/bash o1 (not o1.ftp) or something and you are in the hostmaster world
[10:36:03]<omega8cc>err, su -s /bin/bash - o1
[10:41:39]<omega8cc>ok folks, it is 2:41am here so I need some sleep, good luck and good night or good morning!
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[13:02:59]<Harley>hello..
[13:02:59]<hefring>hi
[13:04:08]<Harley>hi there hefring.. how are you?
[13:07:46]<Harley>new to Aegir and have a few questions. Mostly focused around having an exiting site in ASP. we are now moving to drupal and want to set up the new hosting but not move the domain record yet. tried to run and install the baracuda script a few times... with DNS verification gets stuck, if turn it off then it will run to completion. but cannot get logged in and set up the new dev.oldurl.com. I know this is the aegir channel but think this is related. th
[13:07:47]<Harley>anks!
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[15:21:06]<scottalan>iribarne: thanks
[15:26:44]<halcyonCorsair>can anyone tell me how site passwords are generated in aegir when installing sites?
[15:27:04]<halcyonCorsair>i'm trying to install an openpublic site, and it seems to be failing because of a password restriction
[15:27:25]<mig5>it doesn't generate passwords
[15:27:31]<mig5>but it does generate one-time login links
[15:27:46]<mig5>it generates database passwords though
[15:35:42]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: http://pastebin.com/zQfpuxy4
[15:35:50]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: where is the best place to go huntin that issue?
[15:36:28]<mig5>the install profile probably has restrictions / requires manual intervention that aegir can't provide
[15:36:33]<mig5>i consider that a bug, but then, I would :)
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[15:38:59]<mig5>seems it generated a password for you though
[15:39:04]<mig5>i didn't know we did that..
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[15:42:30]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: perhaps this? http://drupal.org/node/1092220
[15:42:31]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1092220 => Make generated user passwords meet the password policy module standards => Provision, Code, minor, active, 7 comments, 1 IRC mention
[15:44:56]<mig5>well there ya go
[15:46:06]<mig5>I'm afraid I don't have a fix for you
[15:46:17]<mig5>in your case your randomly generated password is missing a number and that's what broke it
[15:49:24]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: heh, it happened once, and i retried again and it failed...i must be fairly unlucky
[15:50:28]<halcyonCorsair>i just php-eval'd provision_password() 10 times, and 9/10 would have worked >>:(
[15:51:13]<mig5>hehe
[15:51:32]<mig5>oh well, now I learnt something, I didn't even think we generated passwords, but I suppose we have to, to complete the installation
[15:59:36]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: if i want to add another web server to aegir, do i have to have it setup for hosting already, or is adding it meant to take care of that?
[16:00:52]<mig5>you have to do a few preliminary preparations, follow this page http://community.aegirproject.org/node/30
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[16:38:45]<halcyonCorsair>mig5: i don't suppose there are similar instructions for barracuda/octopus?
[16:39:12]<mig5>i don't know, probably ask omega8cc
[16:39:20]<mig5>never used barracuda/octopus
[16:39:22]<halcyonCorsair>ok
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[18:42:08]<omega8cc>Harley: you need any wildcard enabled domain pointing to your server to access it and to allow database grants work properly (unless you will use localhost option for database and then the trick with /etc/hosts on your local pc)
[18:44:11]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: the same instructions (the remote stuff) can be used for servers created with Barracuda, there is nothing BOA specific and people already use it w/o issues
[18:44:35]<Harley>Hi there Grace.. Thanks for the reply.. I am kind of going crazy with to many things and it is all Drupal... The life of a newbie.... I have my domain now and a sub domain set up to the new host. .but after the install i get 2 sub domains and that is not working.
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[18:45:27]<omega8cc>and yes, openpublic passwords is known issue, but it is the distro "bug" to require non-standard drupal stuff on install or fail
[18:46:43]<omega8cc>Harley: I recommend to use wildcard dns to make you life easier, and of course you probably need to wait for dns propagation if you didn't have enough short TTL set
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[18:48:07]<Harley>omega8cc the ttl is short and fast. my dns only lets me set one wildcard .. right now i have @.domain.com to old host and dev.domain.com to new host. if I try @.dev.domain.com to new host can't load it.
[18:48:49]<Harley>omega8cc I would also like to thank you for your help!
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[18:49:42]<Vertice>http://learnboost.github.com/kue/
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[18:56:14]<omega8cc>Harley: domains are cheap these days, why not to get one to use for your Aegir system/server so you can set correct wildcard and not be afraid that you will break something for live site? and note, that wildcard entry is *.domain.com
[18:56:39]<halcyonCorsair>is there anything i can do to find out why an install task seems to be stalled?
[18:57:18]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: installing what exactly?
[18:57:50]<Harley>Omaga8cc I did buy a new domain yesterday and was waiting for it to be provisioned. so this domain is more now and admin domain and the others are production. If I understand the power of Aegir, I can easily copy my production site to do a test, so less likely to screw things up.
[18:59:05]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: i'm attempting to install openpublic again, on the chance that i get a password thats generated correctly, however now it seems to stall at: Running: /data/disk/o1/tools/drush/drush.php @optest2.o1.ci.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz provision-install --backend 2>&1
[18:59:38]<halcyonCorsair>http://paste.dollyfish.net.nz/480fda
[18:59:49]<omega8cc>Vertice: nice, we have to rewrite this damn thing to node.js at some point so we can start using some cool stuff ;)
[19:00:02]<Vertice>hehe =)
[19:00:16]<Harley>omega8cc to confim i understand the set up -- hostname is the public access to the website and front is to the aegir admin login.?
[19:00:43]<halcyonCorsair>whereas the first time i tried an openpublic site that failed, it go much further than that, and the task actually finished
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[19:03:46]<omega8cc>Harley: no, hostname is the internal name use in database grants and all that backend stuff, while front is your aegir control panel web address, and there are also some other tools expected to use next level subdomains in your hostname subdomain, so the hostname should be something like server.domain.com and not domain.com, then you can use anything.domain.com to provision sites in Aegir
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[19:05:12]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: no idea, openpublic will fail sometimes due to its weird password stuff, but otherwise it works, however you need 1 GB ram at minimum to use it
[19:06:01]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: will boa give it that by default? are there logs i can tail, or would i be better served to put the commands directly into a terminal so see whats going on?
[19:07:55]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: there is no added magic, it is still the same drush, so you may want to run it manually as your aegir system user with -d to see more
[19:08:22]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: as in the o1 user?
[19:08:46]<omega8cc>anyway, it never failed for me, only sometimes when it didn't generate enough fancy password
[19:08:49]<omega8cc>yes
[19:10:54]<omega8cc>Harley: so, to be able to use domain.com for any site hosted you shouldn't use it as a hostname or Aegir front, use subdomains there and this is why having wildcard is handy
[19:12:26]<Harley>Omega8cc you are a huge help! so I am setting it up as .. host is server.domain.com and front is domain.com
[19:12:38]<omega8cc>no
[19:12:44]<Harley>omega8cc arghhh
[19:12:54]<omega8cc>front should be rather aegir.domain.com
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[19:13:01]<omega8cc>unless you don't care
[19:13:18]<Harley>omega8cc i think admin.domain.com
[19:13:33]<omega8cc>it is just better idea to use subdomains there, imo
[19:13:49]<Harley>this is all only related to the aegir system. and not the sites within. corrrect?
[19:14:11]<omega8cc>if that is the case then no problem
[19:14:41]<Harley>omega8cc okay making more sense now. and yes agree on subdomains.. so this domain really is best not to be the production domain.. should be something different..
[19:16:13]<omega8cc>yes, and by using some subdomain you will 'hide' the Aegir front-end from some spiders indexing domains randomly
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[19:19:38]<Harley>omega8cc thanks!
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[19:28:02]<omega8cc>np
[19:31:09]<Harley>omega8cc so i am setup and going to run the BASH command now.. I can ping the new domain just fine... but... DNS stops. I think is a result of the wild card I just added. shall wait for it to propagate and test again.
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[19:35:11]<omega8cc>Harley: yep, probably
[19:35:15]<Harley>omega8cc the DNS check is done to an external server and not the local server, correct?
[19:35:33]<omega8cc>it depends
[19:36:02]<omega8cc>if it installed dns cache server then it is using local dns cache
[19:36:38]<Harley>okay.
[19:37:07]<omega8cc>check if you have it installed with: ps axf | grep pdnsd
[19:38:18]<Harley>reply is -- 3584 pts/0 S+ 0:00 | \_ grep pdnsd
[19:39:26]<Harley>so i can ping the sever.domain.co and admin.domain.com from another server and hits just fine.. but the script still stops with this lovely message "Your _MY_HOSTN and/or _MY_FRONT doesn't match your _MY_OWNIP, or your hostname is not set properly yet."
[19:41:16]<omega8cc>Harley: it is using your host dns cache probably, as you don't have pdnsd installed, give it some time
[19:41:35]<Harley>okay. the host also is the DNS host.
[19:41:47]<Harley>but patience is a virtue. lol
[19:42:12]<omega8cc>yep, at least sometimes
[19:42:17]<Harley>lol
[19:45:20]<Harley>omega8cc how long you think takes? patience is not my strong suite.
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[19:57:18]<omega8cc>Harley: then you got something to work on, lol
[19:57:47]<omega8cc>Harley: so, what TTL is displayed when you try: dig domain.com?
[19:59:08]<omega8cc>Harley: it is also possible you did something wrong in the dns setup.. check twice if you don't want to contemplate your patience skills forever ;)
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[20:01:20]<Harley>Omega8cc I am looking over the dig domain.com output and 84927 is the TTL I think..... I am able to ping the new domain and any subdomain no provblem.
[20:05:39]<omega8cc>wow, so you have rather long TTL, have you tried to ping random subdomain while logged in there?
[20:05:53]<Harley>yes. all respond back
[20:06:10]<Harley>i am going to add the server. and admin. directly to the DNS record
[20:06:44]<omega8cc>k, then disable dns test and run this monster, it should work
[20:07:14]<Harley>you are funny!
[20:07:31]<omega8cc>;)
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[20:11:39]<Harley>you should change "Do you want to proceed with the install? [Y/n] " from Y/N to "You bet your ass!"
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[20:39:34]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: hey, you still around?
[20:40:54]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: I will be back in about 30 minutes, I'm in the middle of the meeting
[20:41:04]<halcyonCorsair>ok
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[21:36:33]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: back, per chance?
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[21:47:38]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: almost, but feel free to ask questions, i will try to help
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[21:56:27]<darthsteven>scrum?
[21:56:27]<hefring>Every Tuesday at 12h00 UTC: 05h00 San Francisco, USA (PST), 08h00 Montreal, Canada (EDT), 13h00 London, UK (CET), 22h00 Melbourne, Australia (EST)
[21:56:36]<darthsteven>that's four minutes
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[21:56:56]<omega8cc>anyway, scrum time soon and I still didn't submit new patches, uh oh
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[22:01:04]<mig5>scrum time
[22:01:12]<omega8cc>hello!
[22:01:12]<mig5>anarcat sends his apologies for this week
[22:01:25]<mig5>but I hear he had a good time at the drush sprint and got some good work done, so hopefully we'll hear more about that soon
[22:02:03]<mig5>me, i once again didn't do anything.. oh, I did add to the jenkins deb install of aegir to uninstall and purge the packages before destroying
[22:02:13]<mig5>which is a final good test of those packages
[22:02:18]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: i'm trying a barracuda/octopus upgrade before i try again
[22:02:40]<mig5>i think we are well overdue for a 1.2 release, I am conscious there are a lot of patches from omega8cc for review (I think?) so we should get those in
[22:02:53]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: but i was having trouble replicating the site installation commands, i think there might have been some arguments i was missing?
[22:02:55]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: please wait 15 minutes, we have scrum time
[22:02:56]<mig5>that's it from me, over to darthsteven and omega8cc
[22:03:27]<darthsteven>sure
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[22:03:56]<darthsteven>I got the Jenkins deb install of aegir working
[22:04:07]<mig5>epic
[22:04:13]<darthsteven>and worked on getting notification integration with Aegir
[22:04:26]<darthsteven>http://drupal.org/project/hosting_notifications
[22:04:42]<mig5>oh nice. i saw somewhere a sandbox link but it had disappeared
[22:04:47]<darthsteven>So I now get push notifications on my iPhone when Aegir tasks fail
[22:04:51]<darthsteven>which is nice
[22:04:58]<darthsteven>write-up coming soon
[22:05:02]<mig5>nice. Notifo?
[22:05:11]<darthsteven>that's it from me
[22:05:25]<darthsteven>(using prowl, but whatever messaging module supports is possible)
[22:05:36]<mig5>gotcha
[22:06:23]<mig5>omega8cc, anything to add? other than 'commit my patches you bastards' :)
[22:06:42]<omega8cc>ok, so I want to attack that weird critical today: http://drupal.org/node/1196034 and it lock all our upgrades schedule currently, and then will submit next round of improvements to the Nginx config plus - yay! Aegir UI patches!
[22:06:42]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1196034 => Paths to images are broken in D7 after site clone/rename => Provision, Code, critical, needs work, 3 comments, 3 IRC mentions
[22:07:52]<mig5>cool!
[22:07:55]<omega8cc>and that is it from me, but the UI changes are long overdue and I want to share them finally
[22:09:09]<mig5>omega8cc: i wonder if that patch of yours needs to be applied to the deploy_7.inc file?
[22:09:13]<mig5>as opposed to deploy.inc
[22:09:18]<mig5>but i've forgotten how it all works
[22:09:54]<mig5>don't think it would change that result anyway
[22:09:57]<omega8cc>mig5: that is exactly what I think, it misses d7 specific stuff there completely
[22:10:04]<mig5>strange
[22:10:08]<omega8cc>yeah
[22:10:15]<mig5>anyway - anyone else got something to add to the scrum? ergonlogic?
[22:10:25]<joestewart>not directly on aegir but I posted two patches to drush_make that are useful for aegir. one that adds ability to set options in the makefile - http://drupal.org/node/1206340 the other updated a patch that allows setting working-copy per project - http://drupal.org/node/958844
[22:10:25]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1206340 => introduce an options array in the root level of the makefile => Drush Make, Code, normal, needs review, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[22:10:26]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/958844 => PATCH: Allow [working-copy] in makefile as well as on commandline => Drush Make, Code, normal, needs review, 18 comments, 1 IRC mention
[22:10:42]<mig5>nice, I saw the working-copy patch update
[22:11:08]<mig5>also see Owen's Drush sprint overview here for those interested: http://civicactions.com/blog/2011/jun/30/drush_code_sprint_report
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[22:11:52]<mig5>ok, scrum done I think, and i'll do the log
[22:11:56]<mig5>thanks all
[22:12:04]<omega8cc>thanks!
[22:13:10]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: hey, is now all good?
[22:14:35]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: yes, so, what are the errors there exactly? you should use the commands as visible in the standard task log
[22:15:37]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: from the /data/disk/o1/aegir/distro/<number> directory?
[22:16:36]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: no, /data/disk/o1 is your aegir system user home dir
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[22:17:31]<omega8cc>and you must 'su -s /bin/bash - o1' first, of course
[22:18:43]<halcyonCorsair>while i'm waiting for octopus to finish upgrading so i can try this again...
[22:19:12]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: is there any easy way i can get a 2nd server setup with the same nginx version/setup, etc?
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[22:20:16]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: remember to add -d flag and strip the '--backend 2>&1' from the command
[22:20:16]<halcyonCorsair>running barracuda would seem to add a bunch of extra stuff, would it not?
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[22:21:40]<omega8cc>you always need to install db server libs to be able to compile php-fpm anyway, so simply install Barracuda as is, just w/o the optional add-ons
[22:22:43]<omega8cc>then you can easily switch this server from httpd head only to db only or httpd + db
[22:23:36]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: so i can run barracuda, and then do the ssh keys bit so the main server can control it?
[22:23:38]<omega8cc>all the extra stuff is completely optional, just don't install it if you don't need it, and Barracuda will install only what is required anyway
[22:23:46]<omega8cc>sure
[22:25:03]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: ok, so i'm upgrading octopus, is there an option that would cause it to ignore _PLATFORM_LIST and ask me, re: every platform?
[22:25:07]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: of course you need to open mysql port on both servers, since it is closed by default
[22:26:03]<omega8cc>use ALL keyword there and don't use autopilot option
[22:26:31]<omega8cc>then it will ask you for each platform separately yes/no
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[22:27:27]<omega8cc>it is explained there, I believe
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[22:29:55]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: ah no, i mean, i specified which platforms i wanted (ie. not the ALL keyword), and had autopilot off, but it still asked me, re: all platforms (i didn't want it to)
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[22:31:17]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: the queues settings page makes mention of a 'hosting-dispatch' command to run tasks more often, yet i don't see this listed by drush?
[22:31:19]<omega8cc>so turn the autopilot ON, so it will not ask you and just run what you defined in the list
[22:31:53]<omega8cc>listed by drush?
[22:32:07]<omega8cc>the cron runs it
[22:32:48]<omega8cc>and it is aegir extension so no on the standard drush commands list
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[22:33:51]<halcyonCorsair>ah
[22:34:35]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: how can i run it manually to push some tasks through quicker?
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[22:36:18]<halcyonCorsair>su -s /bin/bash - aegir, and then: /var/aegir/drush/drush.php '@hostmaster' hosting-dispatch ?
[22:36:34]<omega8cc>you can run 'bash /var/xdrago/runner.sh' or 'bash /var/xdrago/run-o1' directly
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[22:37:09]<halcyonCorsair>what is xdrago?
[22:37:34]<halcyonCorsair>they get run as root?
[22:38:03]<omega8cc>yes, but then it is running su
[22:38:51]<omega8cc>anyway
[22:38:58]<omega8cc>when you are logged in as o1
[22:39:08]<omega8cc>just run: drush '@hostmaster' hosting-dispatch
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[22:42:59]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: ok, i've created an open public site again, and it seems to have stalled again
[22:43:13]<halcyonCorsair>so i should just run: /data/disk/o1/tools/drush/drush.php -d @op2test1.o1.ci.wgnt.cat-it.co.nz provision-install
[22:43:41]<omega8cc>the -d at the end of the command
[22:44:09]<omega8cc>and not /data/disk/o1/tools/drush/drush.php, just 'drush'
[22:45:05]<omega8cc>and use correct commands from the task
[22:45:23]<omega8cc>or see the docs on c.a.o as it is not boa specific
[22:45:53]<halcyonCorsair>other than the -d, that command is what comes up when i click 'view' on the site install task
[22:46:45]<omega8cc>no
[22:46:55]<omega8cc>it is not the first command you need
[22:47:32]<halcyonCorsair>the provision-save?
[22:47:47]<omega8cc>for example I'm creating a mnews site and the first command is: drush --uri='news.o1.chicago.aegir.cc' provision-save '@news.o1.chicago.aegir.cc' -d
[22:49:25]<halcyonCorsair>you've already chosen a profile at that point?
[22:51:18]<halcyonCorsair>first command ok: http://paste.dollyfish.net.nz/565505
[22:51:27]<omega8cc>you may want to read http://community.aegirproject.org/node/117 you need to specify the platform
[22:51:40]<omega8cc>when on command line
[22:51:51]<omega8cc>and context
[22:51:52]<omega8cc>etc
[22:53:05]<Harley>omega8cc hi again.. so i am up and running.. but not sure is 100%.. the sub/sub domains are not working. I am can login to aegir, webmin. but not into MariaDB.. i am reading on http://community.aegirproject.org/
[22:55:06]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: so in short, you need to create proper site alias (drush alias) first and then with this alias created install the site
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[22:56:55]<omega8cc>so provision-save with specified platform to create an alias and then provision-install will do the rest using the drush alias
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[22:57:45]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: shouldn't that happen as one of the aegir steps? is there documentation on that?
[22:57:54]<omega8cc>Harley: it sounds you have something wrong in your dns then, probably
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[22:58:38]<Harley>omega8cc.. okay take another look.. can i ask does aegir use mysql and php web admin pages or is all built in?
[22:58:39]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: it is everything already in docs on c.a.o and also discussed many times there
[22:58:48]<tejas_>i want to add some line in .htacces in aegir
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[23:00:15]<omega8cc>Harley: not sure what you mean? Aegir front-end is just a Drupal site and the backend is Drush giant extension, so both use php and sql
[23:00:25]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: is this what you're meaning? drush --uri='op2test4.o1.ci.wgnt.cat-it.co.nz' provision-save '@op2test4.o1.ci.wgnt.cat-it.co.nz' --context-type=site --platform='@platform_OpenPublicbeta1P002'
[23:01:42]<tejas>i want disallow cron.php from aegir sites. how to do this?
[23:02:02]<Harley>omega8cc i mean I see the (1) site now.. so I want to make a new site.. so i need to set up 1st add a platform.. Yes? then I need to make a site off that platform, yes? to make the site I have to make a DB and link to the site... Apologies if this is not the form to ask such detailed questions.
[23:02:19]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: almost, you mixed the order, as it should start with command 'drush provision-save" and all arguments follow
[23:02:49]<omega8cc>as in the example there: drush provision-save @example.com --context_type=site --platform=@platform_d6 --uri=example.com
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[23:02:56]<omega8cc>etc
[23:03:32]<shrop>macbook air + mifi rocks!
[23:03:48]<shrop>whoops.. wrong channel.. sorry :)
[23:04:08]<omega8cc>Harley: nono :) it is not a manual work
[23:04:39]<Harley>omega8cc this is the power of Aegir i was told about. just a novie.
[23:04:40]<Harley>novice
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[23:05:09]<omega8cc>Harley: if you have Octopus installed, you already have platforms, just use Add Site tab
[23:05:31]<Harley>no octopus. guess i go and install that now..
[23:05:44]<Harley>i only have 1 server... so i can still use octopus?
[23:06:10]<omega8cc>yeah, please read the readme - you should not use Barracuda hostmaster unless you know what it is for, otherwise just run Octopus
[23:06:14]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: drush provision-save '@op2test4.o1.ci.wgnt.cat-it.co.nz' --context-type='site' --platform='@platform_OpenPublicbeta1P002' --uri='op2test4.o1.ci.wgnt.cat-it.co.nz'
[23:06:29]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: ^^ its coming up as a server context in the drush alias!
[23:07:07]<omega8cc>Harley: start with reading projects description at http://drupal.org/project/barracuda and http://drupal.org/project/octopus
[23:07:32]<Harley>omegacc.. i will read again....
[23:09:06]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: well, I think you already have this drush alias there if it failed on provision-install for you
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[23:10:54]<omega8cc>and if it shows there as a server context type alias, then you have something nicely messed already, I'm afraid
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[23:11:57]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: hmm, i tried without all the quoting, and it worked this time >:(
[23:12:32]<omega8cc>so what worked?
[23:13:07]<omega8cc>creating correct alias or site install?
[23:13:34]<halcyonCorsair>correct alias...but then i tried another to test and its busted...but url is incorrect so maybe thats why
[23:14:35]<halcyonCorsair>it doesn't like something about that url is all i can guess
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[23:14:47]<omega8cc>yeah, on command line you don't need those quotes probably
[23:18:53]<halcyonCorsair>ah, success, in that we now have failure
[23:22:39]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: does this make any sense? http://paste.dollyfish.net.nz/881263
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[23:32:42]<Harley_>omega88c made some progress with my DNS.. thanks again
[23:33:28]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: ah i think i got it, need a different install profile -- how do i specify that on the commandline?
[23:34:08]<halcyonCorsair>ah found that too...
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[23:40:47]<omega8cc>this error: "Sorry, the profile you have chosen cannot be loaded." suggests that you have the alias broken, pastebin your alias maybe
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[23:43:37]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: ^^
[23:44:12]<omega8cc>you don't need to specify install profile, it is auto-discovered and written in the alias
[23:44:19]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: i compared it to one that aegir created, and made some changes and it worked -- finally!
[23:44:30]<omega8cc>yay!
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[23:47:17]<halcyonCorsair>i'm not convinced that its always working though...there is that weird provision-save thing where it spits out a server alias...
[23:47:37]<halcyonCorsair>+ open public takes a godawful long time to create :(
[23:48:28]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: how much ram do you have there? and is it xen or something different?
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[23:49:10]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: 3g ram
[23:49:20]<halcyonCorsair>not xen, this particular system is just for testing
[23:49:40]<omega8cc>but not some virtuozzo?
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[23:50:31]<omega8cc>hah, this password thing is annoying, now it failed for me at first attempt to create the site
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[23:51:37]<omega8cc>I think we will patch this crap to avoid this wtf
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[23:51:56]<halcyonCorsair>virtuozzo? no
[23:52:20]<halcyonCorsair>*sigh* still not getting the love from within aegir...but i'll wait a few minutes to make sure
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[23:53:44]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: on an install retry, i'm up to: Processing time: 15 min 5 sec
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[23:54:29]<omega8cc>hah, then it can timeout for you, I think
[23:54:36]<omega8cc>so it never finishes
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[23:55:27]<omega8cc>it takes 1 min 39 sec to install openpublic site on our SSD option
[23:56:11]<omega8cc>but it works: http://op2.o1.chicago.aegir.cc
[23:56:44]<omega8cc>so it is either slow network there or really low cpu power or something
[23:58:07]<halcyonCorsair>low cpu? yeah its a AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+
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[00:04:51]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: ok, so success twice on the CLI side, but no love on the web side. suggestions?
[00:05:07]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: anyway, if it takes longer than 10 minutes to process the install task, it may get killed on php pr mysql limits
[00:06:37]<omega8cc>php-cli has 15 minutes limit, but php-fpm only 5 minutes and then is killed, however backend is using cli, so it will work only if the task is running no longer than 15 minutes
[00:06:56]<omega8cc>you may use BOND script to increase the limits
[00:10:51]<halcyonCorsair>any idea which limits i should be increasing here? or does BOND just increase from the defaults already?
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[00:20:06]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: you need to increase php and mysql limits, it is explained in configuration comments there
[00:21:29]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: it looks like by default, it increases them a whole heap, so i'll just try the defaults increases for now
[00:21:34]<Harley>omega8cc much bette now I think.. quetions.. if I want to get Drupal 7.4 i have to make that profile manually currently?
[00:23:33]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: ah, with increased limits, after 6m 56s we have success >:( ... er i mean hooray! :)
[00:24:53]<omega8cc>nice, to get 7.4 you could use boa head or add it in the /static
[00:28:36]<Harley>i see
[00:28:38]<Harley>ok
[00:34:21]<Harley>okay.. so now I have both set up.. that is great. but i have (2) sites now. the aegir at the admin.domain.com and the Aegir Hosting System by Octopus at o1.server.domain.com. this is correct i hope......
[00:38:01]<halcyonCorsair>right, it is WAAAY too late, time to go to bed
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[00:38:10]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: thanks for the help
[00:40:15]<omega8cc>halcyonCorsair: np, good night!
[00:40:55]<omega8cc>Harley: it is correct, have you read the welcome e-mail the system sent to you after Octopus install?
[00:41:15]<Harley>Omega8cc yep
[00:41:44]<omega8cc>see also http://drupal.org/node/1206978#comment-4684480
[00:41:45]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1206978 => Install just the platforms => Octopus, Documentation, normal, closed (works as designed), 3 comments, 1 IRC mention
[00:43:10]<Harley>thanks. but not related to anything i am doing... just curious as to why not have the site panel part of the admin.domain.com aegir panel. whey have (2)
[00:43:45]<Harley>reading this http://drupal.org/node/1206978 now
[00:43:45]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1206978 => Install just the platforms => Octopus, Documentation, normal, closed (works as designed), 3 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[00:44:24]<Harley>It is against the core idea of this project, created as a *dual-core* installer, *by design*, not by accident.
[00:44:24]<Harley>We recommend to *not use* the Aegir Master Instance to host any site - it should be untouched and upgraded only to guarantee you have always safe and working main Nginx configuration/system, while all standard work should be done in the Aegir Satellite Instances, to be able to switch/replace them if needed, and to separate standard supported workflow based on Satellite and not Master instance, which is still useful only when you need to import some leg
[00:44:24]<Harley>acy Aegir setup, normally living in the /var/aegir space.
[00:44:25]<Harley>I'm going to close this as 'works as designed'.
[00:44:27]<Harley>okay/ asked and answered "
[00:44:55]<Harley>so i will stay away from admin.domain.com
[00:45:11]<Harley>i will use o1.server.domain.com
[00:45:34]<Harley>my head hurts
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[00:49:35]<Harley>for sites d is for developer.. but P and S --- s is stable?
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[01:14:27]<omega8cc>Harley: you can use any domain/subdomain you wish, it is configurable either on Octopus install or later you can simply add an alias
[01:15:23]<omega8cc>Harley: d-s-p is explained in the welcome e-mail sent by Octopus probably? not sure, but is for -dev, stage and production
[01:26:28]<Harley>omega8cc thanks again.. j
[01:27:26]<omega8cc>np
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[03:48:37]<Met4physica>I thought I would check in and see if the feature to migrate between Aegir servers is available?
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[04:05:24]<Met4physica>omega8cc: my octopus upgrader seems to be misinterpreting the mysql credentials
[04:06:05]<Met4physica>i get error in upgrade, "Database import failed: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user [error]'taichiopenashlan'@'site.site.com' (using password: YES) [22.67 sec, 8.51 MB]"
[04:06:25]<Met4physica>but my user in drushrc.php and settings.php for that site is taichiopenashl_0
[04:08:00]<omega8cc>Met4physica: there is nothing boa specific and migration between instances is just a bit of manual work, already explained on c.a.o
[04:09:18]<omega8cc>Met4physica: check if you have some old grant in the database for this user, maybe with IP and not hostname and delete it so the upgrade will work as expected, as it always renames the db and dbuser
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[04:23:28]<Met4physica>thanks omega8cc, and fyi the work you did is still running smoothly
[04:24:30]<omega8cc>Met4physica: thanks, nice!
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[05:19:14]<Met4physica>omega8cc; I ran it with HOTSAUCE = yes so it created 003 and 004 the times
[05:19:21]<Met4physica>that i attempted updating
[05:19:33]<Met4physica>is there any way to remove those, or does it matter - as far as debugging my installs
[05:22:01]<omega8cc>Met4physica: delete duplicate platforms in Aegir and don't use hotsauce normally, to avoid duplicating it even further, see http://omega8.cc/too-many-duplicate-platforms-125
[05:22:55]<scottalan>Is php52 still required/recommended or is php53 fully supported yet?
[05:23:50]<omega8cc>scottalan: 5.3 is not supported yet enough, so use 5.2
[05:24:11]<scottalan>omega8cc: thank you
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[05:24:23]<omega8cc>np
[05:24:55]<scottalan>I had Aegir up an running and now :(
[05:27:04]<Met4physica>omega8cc: on failed update, i said no to adding the new platforms, so i believe i just have the shells of the dir structure
[05:29:01]<Met4physica>if i am in distro/003 there's just /key
[05:29:06]<Met4physica>and in distro/004 same thing
[05:29:13]<omega8cc>then delete empty dirs if you wish, but it is not a problem anyway
[05:29:29]<Met4physica>ok, i was just wondering if there is some kind of master manifest file i have to edit too
[05:29:39]<Met4physica>or does the script just check for the last dir, to then make a new one
[05:31:32]<omega8cc>it does, but they will be used in the correct order later anyway, so it is not a big issue to have a few empty created ahead of time because you only upgraded hostmaster
[05:32:27]<omega8cc>it is some usability (wtf) issue, but not big enough to complicate the script to avoid it
[05:32:48]<Met4physica>I agree - it really is of no consequence to have empty ones and then move on to the next number
[05:32:59]<Met4physica>i wanted to get a new set of platforms, but first i have to debug the hostmaster upgrade
[05:33:11]<omega8cc>right
[05:33:52]<Met4physica>what would really help me in this is some kind of meta-panel that told me what sites i had running on what platforms and what hostmaster
[05:34:01]<scottalan>I have followed: http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/ubuntu-1004-specific-downgr... and it doesn't seem as though it unpinned 5.3
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[05:52:43]<Harley>hi Omega88c.. still up?
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[06:22:13]<sutha>Try to create a Platform in aegir. The Makefile help text says:
[06:22:16]<sutha>The absolute path on the filesystem to a makefile that will be used to create the platform in the directory specified above. If the directory already exists, this file will be ignored.
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[06:22:48]<sutha>but it looks like a makefile on the server is not accepted
[06:23:06]<sutha>note: working on omega8
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[06:24:03]<sutha>Is a make file only allowed on a URL?
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[06:30:29]<omega8cc>Harley: yes
[06:31:38]<omega8cc>sutha: you can use either makefile uploaded or remote, like here: http://developmentseed.org/blog/2010/sep/11/aegir-04-alpha-13-drush-make...
[06:33:13]<Harley>thanks... so now I am up again.. 430 here.. and trying to get d7.4 into octopus.. the site I want to move over is a d7.4.. so earlier you said " to get 7.4 you could use boa head or add it in the /static" but now not following.. I am looking to add a new platform node in my /data/disk/o1/distro/001/ site.... any guidance?
[06:33:25]<omega8cc>sutha: see some examples of correct makefiles: http://drupalcode.org/project/octopus.git/tree/HEAD:/aegir/makefiles
[06:34:03]<sutha>omega8cc: no, thanks the make file is Ok. Tested it on localhost
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[06:35:12]<omega8cc>sutha: the it will work, simply upload it anywhere in /static, use full system path (use pwd to find it) and specify nonexistent directory anywhere in static
[06:36:07]<sutha>omega8cc: yep, my make file is there now. And is recognized.
[06:37:03]<sutha>omega8cc: but what about the Publish path?
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[06:37:10]<omega8cc>Harley: I would recommend to stick with built-in platforms until you will familiarize yourself with the system to lower the headaches level (absolutely normal when it is new to you)
[06:37:39]<Met4physica>when we worked on my server omega8cc something changed, drush doesn't want to download. when i type in command line: ping drupal.org it says 'unknown host' - any clues?
[06:38:01]<sutha>omega8cc: I used /data/disk/USER/static/somename
[06:38:15]<sutha>omega8cc: where somename already exists
[06:38:33]<sutha>and used /data/disk/USER/static/somename/subname
[06:38:42]<omega8cc>sutha: it should be a path to some dir in your static directory, but of course only its parent dirs should exist so the drush make will create the platform root for you
[06:38:43]<sutha>where subname does not exist
[06:38:47]<omega8cc>correct
[06:38:49]<sutha>both fail
[06:38:50]<sutha>]
[06:38:51]<omega8cc>but
[06:39:14]<omega8cc>did you set group writable permissions on /data/disk/USER/static/somename ?
[06:39:41]<sutha>did not change anything, so probably not
[06:39:46]<Harley>omega8cc i would completely agree.. however my challenge is I am a new to drupal. had signed up to a host.. that is not so drupal friendly.. so we have a site in construction already in d7.4. now I have a new host and need to transfer the development site over. the developer is engaged in other work so this is kind of on my shoulders. (plus he has not used BOA)
[06:40:04]<omega8cc>sutha: so this is the issue
[06:40:41]<omega8cc>Met4physica: wtf? I didn't change anything dns related there..
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[06:42:19]<omega8cc>Harley: well, it is not the best idea to learn on something with deadlines set
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[06:43:38]<omega8cc>Harley: and you need some help hand because it is too much to learn at once and avoid mistakes, problems etc
[06:43:39]<Harley>omega8cc.. again completely agree. understanding more how BOA works will only help as I can clone the site... and then safely experiment. one of the cool things I was told by a 3rd party using this solution.
[06:44:30]<Harley>omega8cc Agree is allot to learn... and not the way to live a stress free life... any suggestions on how to proceed?
[06:44:45]<omega8cc>Harley: so, where you stuck at the moment exactly?
[06:47:04]<omega8cc>Harley: you have Octopus stable or head installed there?
[06:47:14]<Harley>I believe I am not stuck. but want to confirm.... my plan is 1. make a platform that is based on d7.4. 3. make a new site based on the new d7.4 platform. 3. tar ball the existing site and move it over to a new d7.4 site. 4. move the mysql db (this part a bit nervous about) 5. resume development and have a beer.
[06:47:24]<Harley>Omega yes.. Octopus is stable and I see head
[06:47:54]<Harley>I see headmaster as a platform but has an exclamation next to it
[06:48:24]<omega8cc>you should have d7.2 there as well
[06:48:27]<omega8cc>anyway
[06:48:38]<omega8cc>have you read already this? http://omega8.cc/import-your-sites-to-aegir-in-8-easy-steps-109
[06:48:49]<Harley>yes. i made a d7.2 site.. so I have 2 sites curently hostmaster and my d7.2
[06:48:57]<omega8cc>k
[06:49:10]<omega8cc>now you only need to add 7.4 in /static
[06:49:43]<Harley>omega8c not that page I have been reading http://community.aegirproject.org/node/116
[06:50:05]<Harley>does the exclamation for hostmaster require any attention?
[06:50:09]<omega8cc>just upload full 7.4 core there, find its full system path with 'pwd' and use it in the Add platform form
[06:50:25]<omega8cc>it is because hostmaster platform is locked
[06:50:36]<omega8cc>it is by design
[06:50:48]<omega8cc>you shouldn't use this platform for other sites
[06:51:08]<omega8cc>so, read my 8-steps recipe and you are already home
[06:51:24]<Harley>so hostmaster is cool.. great.
[06:52:09]<Harley>for /static that referes to /data/disk/o1/distro/001/
[06:52:31]<omega8cc>no, it is /data/disk/o1/static
[06:52:54]<Harley>step 3
[06:53:03]<Harley> data/disk/USER/static/custom/name
[06:53:47]<omega8cc>first read all steps and then hints, then act
[06:54:56]<sutha>omega8cc: thanks for the help. It worked now. "Publish path" should not exist, it's parent should and is writable (777) (or 775?)
[06:55:13]<omega8cc>775 is enough
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[06:58:08]<Harley>these directions take the current site and make it into a platform. is that correct?
[06:58:27]<sutha>omega8cc: this could be added to the documentation somewhere
[06:58:58]<Harley>Omega8cc your post is very nice and also very new :-)
[06:59:27]<sutha>omega8cc: in hindsight it is clear, the aegir user needs to write in a dir created by me
[06:59:30]<omega8cc>sutha: I agree
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[06:59:55]<omega8cc>I will add it as a separate how-to maybe
[07:00:29]<omega8cc>Harley: yeah, but the recipe is pretty old already - about 2 years ;)
[07:01:49]<omega8cc>Harley: you can use this recipe also to simply create a custom platform, but also to migrate the site a-z
[07:01:58]<Harley>omega8cc so is my statement about this recipe correct? I don't need to load a d7.4 vanilla platform first.. just follow these steps and it will set the old site as a platform on the system?
[07:02:15]<Harley>so 2 birds with 1 stone if you will
[07:02:27]<omega8cc>Harley: yes, it is recommended
[07:08:39]<Harley>omega8cc ok... gotya.. if I want to still set up a vanilla d7.4 platform i could do that in 'create platform' 'name=Drupal 7.4 July 6 2011' 'publish path = /data/disk/o1/static/drupal-7.4' 'make file = where ever i drush dl drupal to" why not set publish path to /data/disk/o1/distro? since is not a core distro and a user made distro it should go in static?
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[07:11:38]<omega8cc>Harley: you should always use static for custom platform, both uploaded and created with makefile because you don't have any handy access via standard o1.ftp account to the /data/disk/o1/distro level, only to 'sites' level in default platforms plus to the /data/disk/o1/static
[07:12:23]<omega8cc>with symlinks from o1.ftp home dir
[07:12:44]<Harley>omega8cc cool, kind of answered my own question then... so my 'name=Drupal 7.4 July 6 2011' 'publish path = /data/disk/o1/static/drupal-7.4' 'make file = where ever i drush dl drupal to" is kosher?
[07:12:46]<omega8cc>and you should use o1.ftp for daily maintenance, not o1
[07:13:26]<Harley>okay.. I think I am going to be reading and watching allot in this room as it is active and good place to learn a bit more on what BOA can do and how it works.
[07:13:31]<omega8cc>leave makefile empty in this case, as you are uploading the drupal root probably
[07:14:40]<omega8cc>only platform name and publish paths should be correct and pointing to the dir you uploaded
[07:15:36]<Harley>omega8cc okay. so I will make /data/disk/o1/static/drupal-7.4 in console.. then unpack drupal there.. then tell Octopus to make the new site in Aegir
[07:17:03]<omega8cc>Harley: yes, but follow all 8 steps in the correct order precisely, so permissions will be correctly set etc
[07:17:14]<Harley>okay..
[07:17:28]<Harley>i made the folder.. /data/disk/o1/static/drupal-7.4
[07:17:41]<Harley>following. your 8 steps.
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[07:41:50]<Harley>omega8cc seems that i have a very minimal d7.4 test platform going..
[07:42:33]<Harley>appears no errors but nothing was enables in d7.4 had to do manually.. but looking better wit your help.
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[07:58:09]<scottalan>does Aegir not create the settings.php file?
[07:58:37]<scottalan>drush couldn't bootstrap the database
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[09:20:44]<halcyonCorsair>omega8cc: hey, are you still around?
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