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[12:05:35]<scottalan>I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to use samba with my aegir installation. Has anyone been successful? I would like to mount sites locally so I can use NetBeans and debug.
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[13:19:49]<ergonlogic>anarcat: ping
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[13:28:06]<mig5>yeah where is that guy :)
[13:30:33]<anarcat>ergonlogic: pong
[13:30:35]<anarcat>here!
[13:30:45]<anarcat>ergonlogic: what the hell are you doing on a saturday night ;)
[13:30:54]<ergonlogic>pretty obvious, no
[13:30:56]<ergonlogic>?
[13:31:09]<ergonlogic>:)
[13:31:11]<anarcat>hehe
[13:31:21]<anarcat>i'm about to reboot this server, so i'll flash out in a bit
[13:31:43]<ergonlogic>k, saw you in the kt channel, and figured I'd ask you a quick question
[13:31:46]* anarcat happy to have chromium 12 in debian wheezy!
[13:31:54]<anarcat>ergonlogic: sure, lemme reboot
[13:31:58]<ergonlogic>k
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[13:46:50]<anarcat>ergonlogic: back
[13:46:57]<anarcat>that reboot was surprisingly painful
[13:47:07]<anarcat>no /boot
[13:47:09]<ergonlogic>12 mins...
[13:47:13]<ergonlogic>ouch
[13:47:19]<anarcat>and then networkmanager (which i don't run) decided to trash (again) my resolv.conf
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[13:47:22]<anarcat>wtf
[13:47:26]<anarcat>aanyways
[13:48:03]<mig5>networkmanager: always the first thing I used to uninstall
[13:48:30]<anarcat>i don't understand how the frak it did that
[13:48:51]<mig5>simple: it assumed you're stupid
[13:49:01]<mig5>(in case you didn't realise, I hate networkmanager :) )
[13:49:15]<anarcat>eh
[13:49:20]<anarcat>i like it on my laptop
[13:49:23]<anarcat>but this isn't a laptop
[13:51:02]<mig5>i use wicd
[13:51:07]<mig5>on laptops
[13:54:24]<ergonlogic>so... um... where is provision installed to via the .debs?
[13:55:14]<mig5>/var/aegir/.drush/
[13:55:17]<mig5>i think?
[13:55:32]<ergonlogic>found it: /usr/share/drush/commands
[13:55:34]<mig5>maybe not
[13:55:34]<mig5>ah
[13:55:40]<mig5>there! :)
[13:57:03]<ergonlogic>but "which drush" is returning '/usr/local/bin/drush', which is a symlink to '/var/aegir/drush/drush'
[13:57:22]<mig5>did you install drush via the deb ?
[13:57:50]<ergonlogic>yeah, but only when upgrading aegir from a manual install
[13:58:07]<ergonlogic>so I think I have 2 copies
[13:58:30]<ergonlogic>and drush_make can still be found in /var/aegir/.drush
[13:59:08]<ergonlogic>do you think it'd be safe to remove those?
[14:00:44]<anarcat>drush make you probably want to keep
[14:00:47]<anarcat>it's not packaged yet
[14:01:23]<mig5>there'll be places in aegir potentially that have /var/aegir/drush hardcoded, depending on your system
[14:01:26]<ergonlogic>hmm... but it's also in /usr/share/drush/commands
[14:01:27]<mig5>e.g the aegir user's cronbta
[14:01:29]<mig5>crontab
[14:01:40]<mig5>and maybe the web server node - do we still store the drush path in the database in aegir?
[14:01:48]<anarcat>i hope not
[14:01:50]<anarcat>i don't think so
[14:01:54]<mig5>good :)
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[14:05:13]<ergonlogic>so, on a server where aegir was installed from the .debs, drush_make is still in /var/aegir/.drush
[14:05:22]<anarcat>that is fine yes
[14:05:25]<ergonlogic>and "drush dl drush_make-6.x-2.2" returns an error
[14:05:31]<anarcat>that is not fine no
[14:05:48]<ergonlogic>"Destination directory /usr/share/drush/commands is not writable"
[14:05:56]<ergonlogic>right... it works as is
[14:05:58]<anarcat>fucking dns resolver is crap
[14:06:02]<anarcat>oops wrong win :)
[14:06:09]<mig5>:)
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[14:08:02]<ergonlogic>anyway... that was a bit of a tangent...
[14:08:11]<ergonlogic>I was looking where provision was installed, as I figured I'd put a provision contrib module in the same directory, right?
[14:08:32]<ergonlogic>or should it go in /var/aegir/.drush, instead?
[14:08:49]<ergonlogic>or does it even matter, really?
[14:09:10]<anarcat>doesn't matter much
[14:09:14]<anarcat>i would put it in .drush
[14:09:21]<mig5>me too
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[14:09:56]<ergonlogic>k, but presumably drush dl will try to put it in /usr/share/drush/commands, if it were posted to d.o?
[14:10:19]<anarcat>drush dl should screw around like this
[14:10:27]<anarcat>if it can't put it in drush/commands, just put it in .drush damit
[14:11:52]<ergonlogic>k, I'll go submit an issue, if I don't find one to +1, then :)
[14:14:31]<ergonlogic>.drush would end up in the user's home, then?
[14:15:30]<mig5>yes. a '.dot' directory logic is a unix thing meaning 'user-specific override
[14:15:42]<mig5>so you're saying you drush dl'd something and it put it in /usr/share/drush/commands ?
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[14:17:09]<anarcat>that makes sense if you're running as root (which doesn't make sense)
[14:17:18]<anarcat>but the idea is that drush puts stuff next to his "home"
[14:21:16]<ergonlogic>mig5: it tried to
[14:22:00]<ergonlogic>but I was running as aegir, not root
[14:22:21]<ergonlogic>http://drupal.org/node/1214216
[14:22:22]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1214216 => Drush can't dl into 'commands' directory when installed from .deb => Drush, PM (dl, en, up ...), normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[14:29:27]<ergonlogic>so, on a different note... how do I pass data from the front-end to the back-end?
[14:29:48]<ergonlogic>do I really have to write to a context?
[14:30:12]<ergonlogic>which seems to involve defining a service...
[14:30:46]<mig5>no you don't, but that's probably the 'right' way to do it, and the way darthsteven recommends
[14:31:19]<mig5>you can pass stuff directly as drush options, but they have to be stored in the database in the frontend I think
[14:31:32]<mig5>http://community.aegirproject.org/node/75
[14:31:37]<mig5>however, someone told me yesterday it no long works
[14:31:40]<mig5>longer*
[14:31:51]<mig5>and i haven't had time to find out if that's true or if they... improvised
[14:35:31]<ergonlogic>ok, so that's in "Part two - sending the cheese to the backend"
[14:35:35]<ergonlogic>?
[14:35:52]<ergonlogic>drush_hosting_cheese_pre_hosting_task()?
[14:36:13]<mig5>yep
[14:36:14]<ergonlogic>you're modifying the context?
[14:36:19]<mig5>no
[14:36:31]<mig5>i think this method avoids drush contexts as such
[14:36:44]<mig5>it passes it directly into the $options array (drush_get_option())
[14:36:55]<mig5>without having to define it into an alias via a service
[14:37:01]<mig5>this is the part that *may* no longer work
[14:37:09]<mig5>but i'm fairly sure it does
[14:37:53]<ergonlogic>right
[14:38:03]<mig5>you can think of the $options as a drush context, which it is, but I find this gets confusing with server/platform/site contexts etc, awkward naming in drush
[14:38:07]<ergonlogic>actually, it worked pretty recently
[14:38:29]<ergonlogic>I've been using it here: http://drupalcode.org/project/hosting_profile_roles.git/blob/HEAD:/hosti...
[14:39:19]<mig5>so all that remains is a drush extension in the backend that fetches drush_get_option('uid')
[14:39:28]<mig5>which from memory is part 5 in my example
[14:39:36]<ergonlogic>ok
[14:39:43]<ergonlogic>this is starting to make sense now
[14:39:47]<mig5>part 4 in fact
[14:40:07]<mig5>it's a bit funky, you have to 'set' the option in the backend even though you can fetch it already
[14:40:11]<mig5>in the case of installing a site, anyway
[14:40:34]<mig5>specifically you have to 'force' it into the 'site' context for a new site to pick it up, which is what part 4 does
[14:41:51]<ergonlogic>ok, but it's only temporarily in the context?
[14:41:57]<mig5>yeah
[14:42:03]<mig5>it doesn't get saved to a drush alias
[14:42:03]<ergonlogic>k
[14:42:11]<mig5>if you want to do that, you need a service thing like you said initially
[14:42:22]<ergonlogic>no, that'll work fine
[14:42:35]<mig5>if it works :)
[14:42:42]<mig5>this is the part that apparently isn't working for one guy who wrote on my blog
[14:42:50]<mig5>but i can't see why not
[14:42:57]<ergonlogic>most everything I want to tackle right now is driven from the front-end
[14:45:23]<ergonlogic>ooh, he's running into drush function naming woes
[14:45:29]<mig5>i suspect so.
[14:45:34]<ergonlogic>that can be a tough one
[14:45:45]<mig5>he possibly left it as something_cheese_pre_provision_install()
[14:45:48]<mig5>and it's being ignored
[14:45:58]<mig5>i'm a bit vague in my response as I find it confusing too :)
[14:46:04]<mig5>crazy drush
[14:46:19]<ergonlogic>I ended up with my drush command being run 3 times
[14:46:40]<ergonlogic>because it was being hooked over and over...
[14:46:46]<mig5>haha
[14:46:50]<mig5>for good luck! :)
[14:50:32]<ergonlogic>IT was related to http://drupal.org/node/704848, which is apparently fixed in Drush 4.5
[14:50:33]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/704848 => Command getting run twice => Drush, Base system (internal API), critical, closed (fixed), 64 comments, 1 IRC mention
[14:50:54]<ergonlogic>or will be, I should say
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[14:57:36]<ergonlogic>So, if I understand correctly though, cheese.drush.inc from part 4, should really be in a provision_cheese drush extension module
[14:58:42]<ergonlogic>no, maybe not
[15:00:58]<ergonlogic>I'm trying to figure out if anarcat's suggestion here: http://drupal.org/node/1206414, really means that I'll need to have a provision_profile_roles separate from hosting_profile_roles
[15:00:59]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1206414 => Refactor to use proper Provision Drush hooks => Hosting Profile Roles, Code, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[15:01:48]<ergonlogic>would I need to set it as a dependency?
[15:02:08]<ergonlogic>does that even make sense, since it's a drush extension?
[15:02:33]<anarcat>yes, it's provision something
[15:02:36]<anarcat>but it's not a dependency
[15:02:51]<ergonlogic>no?
[15:03:17]<ergonlogic>the hosting_* won;t do anything without the provision*...
[15:03:35]<anarcat>right
[15:03:47]<anarcat>but you can't state provision as a dependency because it's not a drupal module
[15:04:02]<ergonlogic>so, it's just to document it well?
[15:04:29]<ergonlogic>it can't be a sub-module or anything?
[15:04:52]<ergonlogic>I guess my real question is: is there any way to install them at the same time?
[15:05:06]<ergonlogic>in a makefile, I guess
[15:05:36]<anarcat>no, there isn't
[15:05:55]<ergonlogic>ok
[15:06:52]<ergonlogic>ok
[15:06:55]<ergonlogic>it's sinking in
[15:07:00]<ergonlogic>:)
[15:07:41]<anarcat>:)
[15:08:57]<ergonlogic>so a simple little module like this: http://drupal.org/node/1159056, would still require a front-end module (hosting_blah) to add a field somewhere on a site, and the a drush extension (provision_blah) to run "drush dis $module"
[15:08:58]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1159056 => Selectively disable modules when cloning sites => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, normal, closed (won't fix), 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
[15:09:18]<mig5>yeah
[15:09:26]<mig5>darthsteven packes both in the one repo in his contrib modules, for example
[15:09:31]<mig5>packages*
[15:09:32]<anarcat>yes
[15:09:41]<ergonlogic>in one repo?
[15:09:43]<mig5>yeah
[15:09:48]<mig5>it's awkward.
[15:10:02]<mig5>you could get around it by packaging a .deb for it maybe :)
[15:12:23]<ergonlogic>:p
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[15:15:18]<ergonlogic>ah... in the gardens import on
[15:15:25]<ergonlogic>s/on/one/g
[15:16:29]<ergonlogic>yeah, that is awkward
[15:16:49]<ergonlogic>seems easier to just publish two projects
[15:17:17]<ergonlogic>since, at least you can then drush dl them both
[15:18:13]<ergonlogic>speaking of which... is there some magic way to tell drush pm that my project is a drush extension?
[15:19:09]<mig5>i don't think so.. but isn't there a --destination argument if what you mean is 'to tell it where to put it'
[15:19:53]<ergonlogic>there is, but somehow drush knows where to (try to) put drush_make and provision
[15:20:48]<ergonlogic>maybe it looks for projects with nothing but .inc's
[15:21:37]<ergonlogic>anyway, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it
[15:22:08]<ergonlogic>as always, thank you gents!
[15:22:25]<mig5>thank *you* for actually trying this shit :)
[15:22:34]<mig5>let me know if that 'passing from frontend to backend' stuff works..
[15:23:45]<ergonlogic>I will
[15:23:52]<ergonlogic>:)
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[15:32:23]<anarcat>?
[15:38:56]<mig5>some libcloud code that does my cloud-server-generation thing
[15:39:06]<mig5>i have about 4 different tools that all do that and then $other stuff
[15:39:13]<mig5>e.g the aegir jenkins testing stuff
[15:39:17]<mig5>but 80% of it is the same code
[15:39:38]<mig5>so i am making one 'pocket knife' tool and everything else will be re-developed as 'hooks' that can be dropped in (like drupal modules, in a way)
[15:39:58]<mig5>and the main code will simply generate a vps, and the nfire off any hooks that it detects are 'enabled'
[15:40:28]<mig5>e.g 'run puppet', 'install aegir', 'run aegir tests', 'do backup restoration tests (based on an earlier tool 'felicity' that I wrote)
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[15:41:01]<mig5>and these are essentially just fabric scripts, so anyone should be able to drop in their own fabric file and expect it to be run against a fresh vps
[15:41:02]<anarcat>fun
[15:41:10]<anarcat>that's awesome
[15:43:18]<mig5>maybe, once it works :)
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[18:41:21]<mig5>we have a 'donate now' button now?
[18:41:53]<mig5>well there we go
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[06:00:51]<MacRonin>Hello Aegir world. I am having a problem trying to clone an existing and working site. The Clone command started a LONG time ago(24 hours) and has yet to complete. Running TOP under SSH doesn't show anything sucking up CPU. The last thing(also 2nd) in the task log is the echo of the command running. I was wondering how to cancel this task and maybe try again.
[06:03:26]<MacRonin>with domain name modified here is the Task view
[06:03:38]<MacRonin>Site: panel.aegir.example.com
[06:03:38]<MacRonin>Status: Processing
[06:03:38]<MacRonin>Started: Sat, 07/09/2011 - 14:44
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[06:03:39]<MacRonin>Processing time: 1 day 7 min
[06:03:39]<MacRonin>Log message
[06:03:39]<MacRonin>Task starts processing
[06:03:39]<MacRonin>Running: /data/disk/o1/tools/drush/drush.php @panel.aegir.example.com provision-clone '@tngo.dmo.example.org' '@platform_Acquia70P001' --backend 2>&1
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[06:15:32]<MacRonin>Any ideas on how to cancel a clone task that won't end? (24+ hours) running under barracuda/octopus under ubuntu
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[06:16:45]<scottalan>MacRonin: I haven't cloned yet but it won't allow you to just cancel it by deleting the node?
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[06:18:28]<MacRonin>Do you mean a node describing the task(i the queue)? I was hoping that there was a cleaner way to do it.
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[06:18:51]<MacRonin>I don't want to leave anything partially updated if I can help it.
[06:19:20]<scottalan>MacRonin: check this out and see if you think this might help.
[06:19:26]<scottalan>http://drupal.org/node/596532#comment-2118600
[06:19:27]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/596532 => Deleting Site that was never installed => Hosting, Code, normal, closed (fixed), 5 comments, 1 IRC mention
[06:22:03]<MacRonin>Thanks, that looks like it is more about how to remove the partially created site
[06:22:34]<MacRonin>I only see the clone task in the content overview, from what I can tell it never actually started the crarte of the clone
[06:22:55]<scottalan>MacRonin: guess that doesn't help if it never gets imported.
[06:22:57]<MacRonin>umm typo that was create not crarte :-)
[06:23:48]<MacRonin>but it does imply that deleting the node does help with some problems, so I might give it a try.
[06:24:03]<scottalan>MacRonin: I would just delete it, if it never got to the stage of importing I doubt Aegir will leave anything behind. I bet it cleans up after itself
[06:24:17]<scottalan>an assumption...
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[06:25:01]<MacRonin>I guess I'm just a bit extra nervous since Linode backups for my server haven't run in almost a week and they haven't given me a time frame to fix the problem.
[06:26:15]<MacRonin>thanks fir the pointer though scottalan. Just gotta give it a try
[06:26:31]<scottalan>MacRonin: I'm new to BOA, I'm not sure that it would actually affect the original site
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[06:28:08]<MacRonin>I'm pretty sure the original would be safe. I just don't want to start building on a corrupted foundation new site if I can help it. but considering all the safeguards they tried to put in he design, I think it will be OK.
[06:29:25]<MacRonin>If you make multiple variations of Drupal sites you will like BOA. it can make so many things easier. And its such a simple install itself.
[06:29:38]<scottalan>MacRonin: I would post something in http://groups.drupal.org/boa to see if you can get a response on the proper way to cleanup a failed clone
[06:30:19]<scottalan>MacRonin: I'm seeing that, I've been 'playing' for the last 3 days
[06:31:35]<scottalan>I'm trying to setup samba so I can mount the file system locally so I can edit/debug with netbeans. Proving to be a pain. :)
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[06:34:04]<MacRonin>Never tried going that deep into the Windows world (I'm a Mac person) goo luck and
[06:34:06]<MacRonin>thanks scottalan and hefring
[06:34:26]<scottalan>mac too!
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[06:36:07]<MacRonin>Hmm must be a diff Samba then I thought - Windows client?
[06:37:00]<scottalan>MacRonin: I use smb to connect to my development sandbox from my mac.
[06:37:36]<scottalan>it mounts the files so I can import them into netbeans, you can tunnel in and then debug :)
[06:39:45]<MacRonin>Hmm, I guess I might have to check it out when I have some free time :-)
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[06:47:20]<AquaticDisorder>MacRonin: on linode does a normal * wildcard setup cover sub.sub.domain.tld or maybe you used *.*
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[07:34:09]<scottalan>has anyone else had trouble using the open enterprise distro that was installed with octopus?
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[09:04:45]<Egyptian[Laptop]>hi - i am trying to understand this platform directory on the host - what is it used for?
[09:07:40]<Egyptian[Laptop]>i mean when i do drush dl drupal it downloads to /var/aegir/drupal.x.x
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