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[10:11:00]<halcyonCorsair>jlkinsel: you don't have the 6.22 platform available at all?
[10:13:51]<jlkinsel>i can create new sites on 6.22, i've migrated other sites (6.15) to 6.22, but for the sites on the 6.19 platform, no other platforms are listed to migrate to
[10:15:26]<mig5>different install profile not available on the target platform?
[10:15:42]<jlkinsel>hmmmmm lemme check
[10:16:51]<jlkinsel>ah I bet that's it...nice catch
[10:16:56]<jlkinsel>s/ah/ha/
[10:21:41]<jlkinsel>yep that was it
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[12:15:22]<AquaticDisorder>mig5: I think strongarm should be in your makefile for fserver profile on github?
[12:18:54]<AquaticDisorder>and fserver.profile ?
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[14:05:50]<mig5>AquaticDisorder: probably. haven;t looked at it in like a year
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[14:16:52]<AquaticDisorder>mig5: cool, just being nosey really :)
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[14:19:35]<mig5>pull request! pull request! :)
[14:24:48]<AquaticDisorder>mig5: I'm still new to git only know the basics
[14:25:07]<AquaticDisorder>if that lol
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[14:32:49]<AquaticDisorder>mig5: would I fork repo, add strongarm , make pull request ?
[14:33:44]<mig5>yep
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[14:34:07]<mig5>then i merge it in, and you get credit for the fix
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[14:37:19]<AquaticDisorder>ok cheers, will have a go
[14:38:09]<mig5>probably the versions of things like cck need updating too
[14:47:24]<AquaticDisorder>ok, I will update repo and see if can get installed on my aegir , thanks
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[16:21:30]<AquaticDisorder>mig5: ping
[16:25:51]<AquaticDisorder>added strongarm and updated contrib but made mistake I think
[16:27:07]<AquaticDisorder>I never created a seperate branch, on the plus side I now have a working feature_server :)
[16:28:07]<AquaticDisorder>do I need to start over and use a seperate branch ?
[16:28:17]<mig5>no you don't need to make a separate branch
[16:28:33]<mig5>just need to create a repo on github and puosh your copy, then send a pull request
[16:33:11]<AquaticDisorder>ok done, thanks again!
[16:34:17]<mig5>thank *you* :)
[16:34:30]<mig5>merged!
[16:34:50]<mig5>https://github.com/mig5/feature_server/commits/master
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[16:38:34]<superchink>I'm having trouble migrating a site setup on Aegir to another server that's not. Anyone here done this successfully?
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[16:42:52]<AquaticDisorder>mig5: lovin it, I need to learn these things! Oh well of to bed have a shift at boring factory job later urghh, cya!
[16:43:30]<superchink>Every time i try to migrate the database it breaks the destinations' install
[16:44:53]<superchink>"Call to undefined function user_access() in…"
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[21:45:50]<helmo>Is anyone else using Git to store site specific data? http://drupal.org/node/1190326
[21:45:51]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1190326 => Running hoster specific tasks like git pull for development => Hosting, Miscellaneous, normal, needs review, 6 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[21:49:07]<anarcat>good morning people
[21:51:08]<anarcat>scrum in 10
[22:01:34]<anarcat>heey scrum time
[22:01:38]<anarcat>mig5 / darthsteven : scrum!
[22:01:45]<anarcat>omega8cc / sfyn / shrop : scrum time
[22:01:52]<anarcat>am i the only one awake? :)
[22:01:59]<omega8cc>hello!
[22:02:01]<ergonlogic>anarcat: not the *only* one
[22:02:15]<ergonlogic>hi all
[22:02:35]<anarcat>hello ergonlogic !
[22:02:49]<anarcat>so welcome to our weekly scrum
[22:02:52]<anarcat>i don't have much to say
[22:02:57]<anarcat>i've been away for a while
[22:03:03]<anarcat>vacations, drush sprint, etc
[22:03:12]<anarcat>i'll try to do a reportback of that great drush sprint soon
[22:03:36]<anarcat>but basically, i worked on jenkins, debian packaging and cleaning up the drush bootstrap process to make real unit tests possible
[22:03:49]<anarcat>so we can now test *functions* (instead of just commands) in the drush unit test framework
[22:03:53]<anarcat>which will be useful for provision
[22:03:54]<anarcat>now
[22:04:00]<anarcat>how's 1.x doing?
[22:04:14]<anarcat>i have on my tuesday todo (and had for a while) to release 1.2
[22:04:26]<anarcat>so i'm thinking to test the 1.x debian packages all over the place then just release the damn thing
[22:04:53]<anarcat>how does that sound?
[22:04:55]<omega8cc>anarcat: there are patches waiting in the queue
[22:05:02]<anarcat>ah darn :)
[22:05:05]<anarcat>omega8cc: your patches? :)
[22:05:07]<omega8cc>;)
[22:05:10]<omega8cc>yep
[22:05:12]<anarcat>hehe ok
[22:05:16]<anarcat>that shouldn't be a big issue
[22:05:26]<omega8cc>simple stuff
[22:05:59]<anarcat>ok, so i'll merge that in before release
[22:06:09]<omega8cc>thanks
[22:06:09]<anarcat>so one last thing for me
[22:06:17]<anarcat>i'll be going on a looong holiday around drupalcon
[22:06:33]<anarcat>i'm leaving on august 3rd for europe, then going to drupalcon, then i'm gone for september
[22:06:53]<anarcat>so that could stall dev of 2.x for a little longer, but i'll be back in full force after that
[22:07:22]<anarcat>ah and before i forget: darthsteven: our hosting-queue-runner daemon disappeared here for the first time ever, not sure why, i'll try to track it down today
[22:07:29]<anarcat>okay, anyone else has something to add here?
[22:07:45]<ergonlogic>For my part, I posted an Aegir extension module on d.o: Hosting Profile Roles
[22:07:51]<ergonlogic>... and I've begun hacking on a couple more
[22:07:55]<ergonlogic>And worked on a couple small patches to Drush
[22:08:09]<ergonlogic>I've been testing .deb installs on some client VPSs, which has been going smoothly
[22:08:12]<omega8cc>not much from me this week, besides fixed support for open public and vudeola
[22:08:33]<omega8cc>err, videola
[22:08:52]<ergonlogic>ooh, lullabot's published it now?
[22:08:56]<omega8cc>yep
[22:09:04]<ergonlogic>I'll have to check it out
[22:09:14]<omega8cc>and merged my fix already
[22:09:45]<Aciid>oh no, videola. I hope it doesn't catch on at the company that we should start offerin sites with it..
[22:09:57]<Aciid>videola's performance and seek capabilities are horrible
[22:10:08]<Aciid>or maybe it's lullabot's CDN
[22:11:27]<anarcat>alright, anyone else?
[22:11:43]* anarcat notices our gsoc student missing
[22:11:52]<anarcat>has he checked in at all while i was gone?
[22:12:14]<omega8cc>I didn't notice
[22:12:26]<anarcat>that's reallly too bad
[22:12:32]<anarcat>i'll have to do an evaluation soon
[22:12:58]<ergonlogic>oh, one other things (not to do with our GSoC student), Koumbit is now accepting donations in support of the Aegir Project
[22:13:15]<ergonlogic>there's a link on the front page of community.aegirproject.org
[22:14:29]<ergonlogic>if/when we receive any donations, we'll have to figure out how to disburse them
[22:14:32]<anarcat>ergonlogic: yeah, mig5 wanted to talk about this, actually
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[22:14:54]<anarcat>ergonlogic: he was suggesting we (koumbit) get a rackspace cloud account and deal with the donations
[22:14:59]<anarcat>where are the donations going now?
[22:15:16]<ergonlogic>anarcat: Koumbit's PayPal acct
[22:15:23]<anarcat>ok, good
[22:15:46]<anarcat>alright
[22:15:56]<anarcat>so if there's nobody else, that will be it for our weekly scrum!
[22:16:13]<ergonlogic>I'll post to the community site
[22:16:28]<omega8cc>thanks
[22:18:12]<anarcat>awesome
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[22:20:53]<sfyn>hi folks
[22:21:18]<sfyn>sorry, was in the middle of a complicated email
[22:22:17]<sfyn>I did have a couple things to bring to the scrum though if peops are still around...
[22:22:24]<sfyn>oh well
[22:23:02]<ergonlogic>sfyn: hi
[22:23:15]<ergonlogic>we can always add your input to the IRC log
[22:24:02]<anarcat>we're still around!
[22:26:12]<ergonlogic>sfyn: hey, over here!
[22:29:10]<sfyn>great
[22:29:14]<sfyn>lala
[22:29:22]<sfyn>So a couple of things
[22:29:44]<sfyn>Contrib side I have ported hosting_services to the 3.x version of the services API
[22:29:48]<mig5>hi sorry i missed the scrum.
[22:30:02]<sfyn>Still habe not heard from cmcintosh about that module
[22:30:42]<sfyn>Also some deep issue with clients has come up in uc_hosting - http://drupal.org/node/1207558 - a really awesome user is giving me tons of testing data
[22:30:42]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1207558 => Clients & Roles not being created when user signs up => Aegir Ubercart Integration, Miscellaneous, normal, postponed (maintainer needs more info), 6 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[22:31:35]<sfyn>And finally, I would like to get feedback on http://drupal.org/node/1200066
[22:31:36]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1200066 => hosting_get_client uses client title instead of the (unique) internal name => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, major, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[22:31:50]<sfyn>hosting_get_client uses the client's title or nid
[22:32:05]<sfyn>but not the machine/internal name of the client
[22:32:10]<sfyn>This seemed odd to me
[22:33:30]<anarcat>yeah, i'm not sure we can change that though
[22:33:37]<anarcat>i mean for backward compatibility...
[22:33:43]<anarcat>we can add a new function though
[22:33:50]<sfyn>We could take the internal name in addition to the title?
[22:34:03]<anarcat>i would rather have a separate function, would be less ambiguous
[22:34:14]<sfyn>ok
[22:35:52]<sfyn>that's ir from me for this week
[22:36:40]<sfyn>I will be working on completing the port of uc_hosting to d7 over the next week or two
[22:36:47]<anarcat>cool
[22:37:08]<mig5>ergonlogic: so yeah, your donation system says it's for the costs of the jenkins testing stuff etc, only problem is, that's my expense entirely right now :) I wonder if we could move the jenkins server and maybe the mailing list server (lists.aegirproject.org) into a koumbit account at rackspace, then those donations are made use of. I am, of course, happy to donate to the project myself to cover some of those ongoing costs.
[22:37:56]<mig5>problem is rackspace don't really offer anything in the way of server migrations between accounts.. but maybe we could simply rebuild the machines under a new account and then decommission the old ones.
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[22:38:11]<ergonlogic>mig5: Koumbit could also transfer you some funds to cover that, too...
[22:38:25]<mig5>or that, if that's easy enough
[22:38:39]<mig5>whatever is easiest: as i'm lazy and like avoiding hard work :)
[22:38:46]<mig5>a real sysadmin
[22:38:50]<ergonlogic>lol
[22:39:08]<ergonlogic>we could go with your suggestion too, I'm just saying...
[22:39:10]<omega8cc>it is easier to send paypal something than re-install servers..
[22:39:33]<mig5>probably
[22:39:39]<mig5>although they are not complicated servers
[22:39:47]<mig5>jenkins here, mailman there
[22:39:56]<mig5>they could even be in koumbit's own hosting farm
[22:40:10]<mig5>and the rackspace cloudy provisioning thing for testing be under a koumbit account in future
[22:40:21]<mig5>anyway, food for thought, i am happy for things to remain as they are
[22:40:23]<ergonlogic>anarcat: do you have a preference here?
[22:41:14]<anarcat>no
[22:41:38]<mig5>hehe
[22:41:40]<anarcat>well, i guess i'm for less work
[22:41:46]<mig5>haha yes!
[22:41:49]<anarcat>so just pouring money in mig5 seems like the simplest solution :P
[22:41:50]<mig5>another real sysadmin
[22:42:05]<omega8cc>deal
[22:43:00]<ergonlogic>k
[22:43:07]<mig5>i just gave a presentation on our aegir+jenkins+cloud magic at Drupal Melbourne
[22:43:26]<mig5>it is amazing, you can just make some shit up, do a live demo of a build, people ooh and aah because it sounds impressive
[22:43:35]<mig5>then they buy you beer
[22:43:53]<mig5>anyway that's why I missed the scrum :)
[22:44:50]<omega8cc>mig5: was it recorded?
[22:45:03]<mig5>omega8cc: nah, but you didn't miss anything you didn't already know :)
[22:45:17]<mig5>i just explained the jenkins polling of git, the .deb packaging, site install testing ,etc
[22:45:40]<mig5>a brief show of actual aegir itself due to popular demand
[22:45:47]<mig5>otherwise it was just jenkins :)
[22:46:16]<omega8cc>haha, but every video helps people, they prefer to watch, not read
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[02:03:43]<maxbrons_>I am trying to migrate a D5-2.3 site to Drupal 6.22. The migrate script runs with a few warnings and the following error. WD php: Duplicate key name 'nid' query: ALTER TABLE content_type_policy_page ADD INDEX nid (nid) in /var/aegir/platforms/fadev-drupal-6.22/includes/database.mysql-common.inc on line 442. I have turned off the CCK modules and reverified the platform with no luck. Any hints? Thank you.
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[02:09:13]<maxbrons_>The Alter Table function works properly for other tables on the import, just not the content_ tables. These other tables also have an existing nid key.
[02:10:29]<bgm>maxbrons_: maybe try to drop the key before the upgrade, since it will be added again afterwards
[02:13:25]<maxbrons_>bgm: ok, that is a good idea. I have been struggling with this one for a few days. I'll give it a whirl. Thank you.
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[02:28:42]<maxbrons_>bgm: dropping the index did the trick. Drush is still unable to bootstrap in the final step but one more wall has been hurdled. Thank you for the bright idea.
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[02:30:17]<bgm>maxbrons_: the bootstrap issue does not seem very reassuring, but glad it's moving forward :)
[02:32:44]<maxbrons_>bgm: It seems that Aegir will always fail a migration if any step has a red x. I think I have to get CCK updated so that Aegir doesn't throw a flag on it, even though it is disabled. Then the final bootstrap should work.
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[02:36:14]<bgm>maxbrons_: to be honest, I've found major upgrades in Aegir to be very difficult.
[02:36:43]<bgm>maxbrons_: what I do, is create a new site in Aegir, then delete all the tables in it, import the SQL from the D5 site, and run "drush updatedb" manually, then copy over all the files/ and stuff like that
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[02:41:59]<maxbrons_>bgm: That is helpful to know. Just to clarify, you create a new d6 site, drop all tables, import the d5 sql, and then run drush updatedb. I'll give that a go soon if this proves to be too tiresome. Thanks again for the helping hand.
[02:42:22]<bgm>yep, 1 min, i have doc somewhere
[02:42:49]<bgm>https://wiki.koumbit.net/DrupalMaj/Drupal6versDrupal7 -> it's in french, but, well, the drush commands are pretty clear
[02:43:30]<bgm>maxbrons_: ^
[02:43:34]<maxbrons_>bgm: That is great. Thank you.
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[04:39:36]<jlkinsel>hey guys - seems like there's value in exposing the IP address set in apache's <virtualhost> tag to aegir's UI...
[04:40:37]<jlkinsel>one of my clients I've dropped aegir on has a collection of virtual servers not managed by aegir, so their definiton is <virtualhost ip:80>, versus aegir's <virtualhost *:80> - sorta screws with things. I've modified the template on that box for now, but would be nice to have a less-hackish way to deal with it
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[04:55:33]<sfyn>jlkinsel: this is good feedback, and something I think would be best reported via the issue queues
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[04:55:59]<jlkinsel>sure I can do that, just wanted to talk it through on here first
[04:56:25]<jlkinsel>one of these days maybe I'll get time to submit patches as well as raise issues. ;)
[04:56:50]<sfyn>I would like to discuss it but I don't really have the time, which is why I don't want to lose the idea
[04:56:58]<jlkinsel>gotchya
[04:59:38]<jlkinsel>file under hostmaster or provision? I could see either way...
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[08:38:13]<Layke>What's the best resource I should look at if I want to use Aegir alongside other non aegir sites.
[08:38:20]<Layke>I'm flexible in how I implement this.
[08:39:06]<Layke>I do need wildcard host matching to be availabel on the non-aegir sites though.
[08:39:10]<Layke>Well site*
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[08:48:36]<bgm>Layke: it's not impossible, but personnaly, I would run two separate VMs. it will reduce the risk of something breaking in the future.
[08:50:47]<Layke>bgm: That's definately the plan, was just looking for some temporary fix.
[08:51:05]<Layke>I'll just do that... it's not too expensive I guess.
[08:51:28]<bgm>you'll save on sysadmin time :)
[09:06:16]<anarcat>reviewed all outstanding patches
[09:06:19]<anarcat>getting ready for the release
[09:06:28]<anarcat>will do tomorrow
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[09:58:32]<realityloop>mig5: ping