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| [13:06:43] | <wiifm> | hey all, is there a drush command to perform a site migration/clone ? |
| [13:06:58] | <wiifm> | looking to build this into some jenkins automated build scripts |
| [13:07:13] | <wiifm> | so avoiding selenium would be nice for now ;) |
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| [13:39:58] | <realityloop> | anyone here able to help me with a nginx question in relation to aegir? |
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| [17:40:19] | <realityloop> | mig5: ping |
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| [20:28:10] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: pong |
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| [20:31:26] | <realityloop> | Hi omega8cc |
| [20:31:49] | <realityloop> | do you know any other ways to restart nginx besides the way that is in hostmaster? |
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| [20:32:33] | <realityloop> | I'm trying to get hostmaster working with nginx on OS X still.. but we don't have /etc/init.d/ |
| [20:32:50] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: provision reloads Nginx config, doesn't restart it in fact |
| [20:32:53] | <omega8cc> | hmm |
| [20:33:08] | <realityloop> | so it's not http://drupalcode.org/project/hostmaster.git?a=search&h=HEAD&st=grep&s=n... |
| [20:33:16] | <realityloop> | I'm getting a fail on hostmaster install |
| [20:33:31] | <realityloop> | because it can't run sudo /etc/init.d/nginx reload |
| [20:33:36] | <realityloop> | I believe |
| [20:37:36] | <omega8cc> | it is provision what reload nginx, but yes, the command can be changed in the frontend, however you need to use direct command there |
| [20:37:44] | <omega8cc> | I think it will be: nginx -s reload |
| [20:38:02] | <omega8cc> | since you don't have nginx init script probably |
| [20:39:31] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: so you need to add '/path/to/nginx -s reload' to sudo |
| [20:39:39] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: thanks |
| [20:39:59] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: and then the same in the frontend |
| [20:40:02] | <realityloop> | that was one that I'd come across.. but I broke sudoers file :/ luckily it was in a VM |
| [20:40:12] | <realityloop> | with an earlier snapshot |
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| [20:41:39] | <omega8cc> | yeah, it is never good idea to hack your Mac system, it is not that easy to repair later, unless you know osx internals very well |
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| [21:03:49] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: thats why I'm testing on a VM |
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| [23:30:32] | <FatGuyLaughing> | mig5: ping |
| [23:31:51] | <FatGuyLaughing> | I'm pretty sure I confused the conversation about enabling features and the such. Here's is what I need to accomplish. |
| [23:32:05] | <FatGuyLaughing> | I have a list of modules that are optional install, and I want to specify which ones I want from the aegir frontend. |
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| [01:25:48] | <highermath> | anarcat: ping |
| [01:29:08] | <highermath> | darthsteven: or ergonlogic ping - re: DC London |
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| [01:31:11] | <anarcat> | highermath: pong |
| [01:31:44] | <highermath> | anarcat: pm? |
| [01:31:53] | <anarcat> | sure |
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| [01:40:05] | * anarcat has changed the topic to Aegir hosting system 1.2 released! http://community.aegirproject.org/1.2 | Issue queue: http://is.gd/edalY | read this before asking: http://community.aegirproject.org/help | scrums on tuesday 1200UTC | our gSoC student application was accepted, congrats seth! | subscribe to our training in drupalcon london! http://london2011.drupal.org/news/deep-dive-aegir-hosting-system |
| [01:42:32] | <FatGuyLaughing> | I have a list of modules that are optional install, and I want to specify which ones I want from the aegir frontend preferably from the site creation form. |
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| [05:32:49] | <halp> | howdy y'all i'm just getting started with Drupal multisites--am i correct that aegir is the easiest/best way to approach this? |
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| [05:40:23] | <halp> | next question. i currently have a server with limited memory. i have six separate installs of Drupal 7 on it, complete with a dedicated MySQL instance. Am I correct to assume that consolidating all of this to Aegir would enhance my performance? |
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| [06:16:10] | <halp> | another question can you tell i'm researching? how does aegir work with nginx and mariadb? |
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| [06:51:11] | <FatGuyLaughing> | I have a list of modules that are optional install, and I want to specify which ones I want from the aegir frontend preferably from the site creation form. |
| [06:55:05] | <halp> | fatguy do you use aegir for multisites or are you just starting out? |
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| [07:22:22] | <halp> | i guess my main question is: does aegir replace the non-aegir "multisites" feature of Drupal? I know I need to use multisites so should I invest in using Aegir to manage them? |
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| [07:31:19] | <AquaticDisorder> | halp: checkout http://community.aegirproject.org/ and also you might like ref nginx? http://omega8.cc/ |
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| [07:34:23] | <halp> | AquaticDisorder: thank you. do you use nginx? :D |
| [07:35:58] | <AquaticDisorder> | no but I might use omega8cc hosting when ready to go live and thats aegir with nginx |
| [07:38:55] | <halp> | cool i'm excited to try aegir |
| [07:40:25] | <AquaticDisorder> | halp: checkout - http://community.aegirproject.org/article-archive/drupal-deployments-wor... |
| [07:41:44] | <halp> | nice thank you for sharing. i need to get into that habit, i tend to dev on my production env. i also want to become more proficient with drush so good stuff |
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| [07:51:51] | <AquaticDisorder> | halp: np you can use one aegir for dev stg and lve if you like |
| [07:52:43] | <halp> | aquaticdisorder: what a great solution. is it safe to assume that the performance is better than multiple single drupal sites or even the multisites feature of drupal? |
| [07:53:14] | <halp> | i currently have six drupal sites on one shared server and i received a message that i'm using too much memory |
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| [07:55:44] | <AquaticDisorder> | I think aegir probly performs better in general I know it does something with .htaccess |
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| [07:56:05] | <AquaticDisorder> | but its certainly can speed up workflow |
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| [07:56:35] | <AquaticDisorder> | as to whether it will solve your problem it's hard to say |
| [07:58:26] | <AquaticDisorder> | halp: maybe visit http://omega8.cc/ get the test drive, its a free demo and will let you see aegir from the helm |
| [07:59:33] | <halp> | aquaticdisorder: thanks, good recommendation. drupal is awesome i learn something new every day |
| [07:59:33] | <AquaticDisorder> | halp: do your d7 sites have contrib modules |
| [07:59:50] | <halp> | yes, they all use the same ones--a sign i should be using aegir no doubt |
| [08:00:07] | <halp> | views, ctools, google analytics, datetime, etc etc teh usual suspects |
| [08:00:32] | <AquaticDisorder> | how much mem allowance on server |
| [08:00:52] | <halp> | heh i think something like 500Mb |
| [08:00:54] | <halp> | not much |
| [08:01:18] | <halp> | i'm not a sysadmin i don't really understand memory usage optimization i just assume i'm not doing as good as i should |
| [08:02:00] | <halp> | i hope aegir will guide me in optimizing my performance across multiple sites |
| [08:03:45] | <ryanarmstrong> | Has anyone had an issue where you cannot change any of the settings on the Performance page of Drupal 7? Caching of pages for annon, as well as CSS and JS agg are on, I uncheck them and hit save, and they just turn right back on. |
| [08:04:02] | <ryanarmstrong> | It's really frustrating as this is a dev site |
| [08:06:31] | <AquaticDisorder> | halp: plz read carefully what http://omega8.cc/ is offering sounds like perfect for your situation could save you lot of work ( i dont work for them ) prices start from under £20 or $30 a mnth |
| [08:07:08] | <halp> | wow that's what i'm paying right now just to try to do all this myself interesting! |
| [08:07:56] | <AquaticDisorder> | halp: i know I would of used them already if I knew |
| [08:08:12] | <halp> | i am "addicted to root" tho as they mention heh |
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| [08:10:37] | <AquaticDisorder> | halp: your never relly root on a vps hehe =) |
| [08:10:43] | <AquaticDisorder> | ^really |
| [08:11:11] | <halp> | hmm i don't really understand how it works i think it's a virtual env. i use linode |
| [08:12:48] | <AquaticDisorder> | me too, i think its xen or something like that but yh |
| [08:15:25] | <AquaticDisorder> | Im probly changing my linode for 8cc because even though on the face of it you get less hardware resources per £ |
| [08:16:44] | <AquaticDisorder> | I won't need to worry about sys admin at all |
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| [08:18:23] | <halp> | this may be strange but even tho i suck at it, i really enjoy sysadmin stuff |
| [08:18:35] | <halp> | maybe i should have learned that as my career, i think it's fun |
| [08:20:15] | <AquaticDisorder> | halp: I'm intrested to see your contrib list any chance you can pastebin a list =) |
| [08:21:50] | <halp> | oh i can pretty much type it all out here, i'm still new. but i use views, ctools, google analytics, datetime, webform, token, pathauto, and i've been exploring node_clone, flag, access_control, recommender |
| [08:21:56] | <halp> | pretty basic stuff |
| [08:22:39] | <halp> | the other day i modified the node_clone.module code and i felt like it was quite the accomplishment when it worked how i hoped it would |
| [08:23:35] | <halp> | i want to get into a/b testing, wish there was an elegant D7 solution for it. i've tested google website optimizer but that seems like a lot of grunt work to get it to work |
| [08:26:07] | <AquaticDisorder> | halp: got to do some work now but here is my quick basic list of best workflow tools |
| [08:27:48] | <AquaticDisorder> | aegir, drushmake, git, and features, good luck have fun in aegirworld |
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| [08:33:32] | <halp> | aquaticdisorder: thanks see y ou around! |
| [08:33:57] | <AquaticDisorder> | halp: np |
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| [09:03:15] | <omega8cc> | ryanarmstrong: http://omega8.cc/how-to-disable-all-caching-and-aggregation-115 |
| [09:04:09] | <ryanarmstrong> | Awesome, thank you omega8cc. Also, thank you for helping me out so much via email regarding my server setup, you guys are awesome, I can be a pain lol |
| [09:06:29] | <omega8cc> | ryanarmstrong: glad to hear that my staff did good job, thanks! |
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| [09:09:19] | <omega8cc> | AquaticDisorder: thanks! I certify that you don't work for us, but you are nice anyway! :) |
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| [09:15:41] | <AquaticDisorder> | omega8cc: cool, i love linux too but if can hand server admin responsibility off to you guys n gals I can do more aegir and drupal, |
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| [09:17:08] | <AquaticDisorder> | I'm confident at this point omega8cc are quite competent and much more capable than I of ensuring the security and efficiency of my server than I =) |
| [09:18:22] | <omega8cc> | AquaticDisorder: being your own sysadmin can be exciting only in the first few days probably ;) |
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| [09:20:54] | <AquaticDisorder> | omega8cc: got my linode running ok suhosin, apc, etc but I'm not fully confident in my sysadmin yet, what do you think about the omega theme and delta module |
| [09:23:58] | <omega8cc> | AquaticDisorder: omega theme is too big for our needs, but it is a good stuff, and Acquia now adapted it |
| [09:26:11] | <AquaticDisorder> | I |
| [09:26:15] | <AquaticDisorder> | hehe |
| [09:28:00] | <AquaticDisorder> | I have been looking at using it I have copied starter and got my makefile to pull it from my featureserver, love it |
| [09:29:40] | <AquaticDisorder> | If I change a setting i can update the theme .info automatically and purge settings in database you probly know already |
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| [09:30:41] | <AquaticDisorder> | I'm not a themer so trying to stay away from manual coding |
| [09:33:18] | <omega8cc> | yep, there are many cool options like that in this theme, it is omega, after all :) |
| [09:35:07] | <AquaticDisorder> | Iinode seems to be slowing down since I added to my platform though hehe =) |
| [09:37:16] | <AquaticDisorder> | using a lot of betas and and stuff at mo as long as it works, which I'm pleasantly surprised about anyway! |
| [09:37:25] | <omega8cc> | linode does weird things recently.. their 1 GB ram is not 1 GB at all and some nginx builds fail for me only on linode, so I stopped using them for BOA testing |
| [09:39:24] | <welly_> | Hmm anyone know of any issues in deleting platforms? I've got a couple of platforms that are definitely void of any sites yet delete platform still reports sites existing on the platform |
| [09:39:42] | <welly_> | I've just taken over this server so not quite up to scratch on how it's set up :) so not sure what version of aegir is installed |
| [09:40:02] | <AquaticDisorder> | omega8cc: yh I thought it could be when the backup is running, at first I thought it was my platform but next day was fine |
| [09:42:57] | <AquaticDisorder> | welly: have you looked at the actual /var/aegir/platforms/yourplatform/sites directory |
| [09:43:20] | <omega8cc> | AquaticDisorder: I don't have any backup on my private testing only 1GB linode, yet, some basic things just don't work there as before, so they are 'improving' something in the Ubuntu style probably.. |
| [09:44:47] | <AquaticDisorder> | yh I saw a comment you made somewhere about their disk write speeds also |
| [09:46:27] | <welly_> | AquaticDisorder: oh good point. hang about |
| [09:46:50] | <welly_> | oh that'll explain it then :) |
| [09:47:35] | <omega8cc> | AquaticDisorder: i/o was never good enough there, but anyway, I'm testing on our own servers now and we will see if Linode users will report any issues |
| [09:50:25] | <omega8cc> | now it is interesting when Oracle will decide to charge us $$$$ for using Ksplice service |
| [09:50:50] | <AquaticDisorder> | omega8cc: you get what you pay for hey, as soon as my site is ready I can justify increased cost |
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| [09:51:58] | <omega8cc> | yeah, it is expected: cheap, fast, good - pick two |
| [09:53:52] | <AquaticDisorder> | omega8cc: lmfao, I just remembered I meant to ask |
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| [09:54:53] | <AquaticDisorder> | it's probly in the docs but would I have control over restoring my aegir backup on your hosting |
| [09:55:05] | <AquaticDisorder> | or would i put in a support req |
| [09:55:36] | <omega8cc> | you mean Aegir built-in backups? |
| [09:55:37] | <AquaticDisorder> | say if I managed to break aegir |
| [09:55:57] | <AquaticDisorder> | which I know is impossible =) |
| [09:57:03] | <omega8cc> | it's so locked that it is really hard to break anything :) but re: backups, there is http://omega8.cc/aegir-and-r1soft-backups-rotation-policy-119 |
| [09:58:27] | <AquaticDisorder> | yh I saw a little on the r1 stuff I guessed you handle those |
| [09:59:28] | <AquaticDisorder> | I managed to mess my aegir up swapping drushmake for 3.x the other day but had made a backup |
