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[14:12:59]<halp>Harley: hi you there? :) i am so close just one small issue with linode...
[14:15:44]<halp>Here's the situation: successfully ran Barracuda script on fresh Debian 6 linode. (but had to disable the DNS check). set up wildcard A record at *.foo.com
[14:16:22]<halp>then successfully ran octopus (but had to disable DNS check). barracuda set up master aegir at aegir.foo.com and octopus set up satellite aegir at octopus.foo.com octopus successfully installed a few platforms. then i set up a dns zone for octopus.foo.com with an A record of *.octopus.foo.com
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[14:18:17]<halp>wget octopus.foo.com returns 200 status but page won't resolve. *if* i had an A record "octopus.foo.com" (which I do), is that conflicting with the "octopus.foo.com" zone?
[14:19:11]<halp>and which one is correct, should i use an A record octopus.foo.com, hope that the A record wildcard works, or setup octopus.foo.com as it's own Zone--anyone know which is the proper setup?
[14:21:40]<Harley>hi halp
[14:22:04]<halp>yay so happy you're here :)
[14:22:11]<halp>how was the dog walk?
[14:22:51]<Harley>You really don't need so many zones but I just found it worked better for me. on Linode. I only make zones for static URL's that are not changing.
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[14:23:06]<Harley>when I am testing I am using site.dev.foo.com
[14:23:15]<Harley>so I have 1 zone for foo.com
[14:23:21]<Harley>1 zone for dev.foo.com
[14:23:29]<Harley>both have A wild cards
[14:23:58]<halp>i may be mistaken here but i thought you always used A records for subdomains?
[14:24:51]<halp>but pertaining to the issue at hand, do you think my page isn't loading because there's a conflict between the zone and the a record that both share the octopus.foo.com subdomain?
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[14:25:44]<Harley>no. i suspect is an issue with DNS propogation
[14:26:03]<Harley>can I check the DNS from my location? if want can send in private message
[14:26:39]<halp>wait this is odd
[14:26:44]<halp>it's only happening in chrome
[14:27:08]<Harley>Flush the cache in chrome.. also google uses it own DNS for URL support
[14:27:12]<halp>when i check with safari, i get the nginx under construction O_O
[14:28:40]<halp>safari also adds a www. in front even though I specifically do not have www as an A record...
[14:29:02]<Harley>the wild card handles anything.
[14:29:09]<halp>thank you for your help btw sorry to be so needy :)
[14:29:51]<Harley>really don't worry!
[14:29:52]<Harley>is cool
[14:29:54]<halp>okay i understand if i explicitly typed in www.octopus.foo.com that the wildcard would handle it, but i don't understand when i type in octopus.foo.com how the www is getting added on to it
[14:30:12]<Harley>that is safari being 'helpful'
[14:30:18]<halp>ahh
[14:30:33]<halp>will reset chrome; might need to leave chat room i'm on webchat
[14:30:33]<halp>brb
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[14:31:37]<Harley>Halp go get LimeChat from the appstore
[14:31:54]<halp>oh i actually have it installed already, just use webchat out of habit
[14:32:23]<halp>so i cleared chrome cache, reloaded http://octopus.foo.com and got the same error: Error 105 (net::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED): The server could not be found.
[14:32:24]<Harley>ok
[14:32:43]<Harley>want me to check from the other side of the world?
[14:32:59]<halp>sure PM me
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[15:41:10]<skwashd>mig5, slide 13 of this should be the new homepage for aegirproject.org http://www.slideshare.net/iztoksmolic/face-your-fears-drush-and-aegir
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[15:45:12]<mig5>I like it
[15:46:26]<mig5>good slides actually, well put together
[15:49:48]<Harley>skwashd going to check it out!
[15:51:46]<Harley>skwashd how did you find this presnetation? ig5 very helpful!
[15:52:23]<skwashd>mig5 / Harley it was done by iztok from slovenia
[15:52:28]<skwashd>i really liked it
[15:52:40]<skwashd>he presented at DDCEU
[15:52:49]<Harley>skwashd how did you find it?
[15:53:00]<skwashd>mig5, if you still have access to the aegir twitter acct i tweeted something on it
[15:53:09]<skwashd>Harley, i follow him on twitter :)
[15:55:59]<Harley>skwashd gotya.. there is a new wiki for BOA.. http://cl.ly/1c30342Z0S2J1f3O1D3W how you think about putting a sections on presentation like this one?
[15:56:24]<Harley>sorry wrong url
[15:56:50]<Harley>http://groups.drupal.org/node/163784
[15:56:51]<hefring>http://groups.drupal.org/node/163784 => BOA Wiki => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[15:57:49]<skwashd>Harley, go for it ... I don't use the omega stuff and recently i haven't had a need for aegir either
[15:58:00]<skwashd>the big end of town likes jenkins
[15:58:44]<Harley>skwashd gotya.. just like the room?
[15:59:28]<skwashd>Harley, i started off using aegir 0.2 alphas :)
[16:00:12]<skwashd>I deployed 2086 production D6 sites with a aegir 0.3 beta in less than 52hrs
[16:00:52]<AquaticDisorder>http://www.slideshare.net/iztoksmolic/face-your-fears-drush-and-aegir "Ægir is only a set of modules" , yh and a space shuttle is only a set of parts >=)
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[16:06:27]<AquaticDisorder>^^ no mention of norse mythology, I mean come on!
[16:07:59]<Harley>done...
[16:08:29]<Harley>Skwashd .. 2086.. the question is how much time did it take you vs the server(s)
[16:12:35]<skwashd>Harley, the servers took 52hrs ... it was a 3mth initial build
[16:13:03]<Harley>skwashd cool.. still up and running? what type of site(s)?
[16:13:53]<skwashd>Harley, i stopped being involved back in march 2010
[16:14:06]<skwashd>they had problems with cash flow and their business plan
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[16:14:10]<skwashd>400k registered users
[16:14:15]<Harley>skwashd okay... what kind of work you doing these days? hmmm the $$
[16:14:25]<Harley>hope you got paid for services rendered
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[16:18:21]<skwashd>Harley, these days i mostly to architecture and drupal rescues
[16:18:34]<skwashd>until a few weeks ago i was contracting with four kitchens
[16:18:58]<skwashd>did that for about 6mths then decided to go back to running my own business
[16:19:04]<Harley>kitchens? cooking? web-dev?
[16:19:21]<AquaticDisorder>lmfao
[16:19:52]<skwashd>I hope you're joking
[16:20:11]<AquaticDisorder>at harley
[16:20:16]<Harley>YES!
[16:20:24]<AquaticDisorder>hehe
[16:20:32]<AquaticDisorder>>=)
[16:20:45]<snlnz>one should always do at least a quick google prior to coming to the interview
[16:20:52]<snlnz>:P
[16:21:21]<skwashd>Harley, fourkitchens.com
[16:22:27]<Harley>I think I am going to turn the AC on. .feels hot in here.
[16:22:39]<AquaticDisorder>lmfao @ harleys "cooking?" no offence buddy!
[16:23:07]<Harley>aquaticDisorder.. none taken. . . what fun is life if can't laugh
[16:23:37]<AquaticDisorder>hey drupal 7.6 > 7.7 must be quickest release ever
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[08:24:59]<omega8cc>hefring: botsnack
[08:24:59]<hefring>mmm... provisions
[08:25:14]<omega8cc>mig5: it is alive! thanks :)
[08:25:37]<mig5>might need to write a post-migrate hook that forces a bot back online :)
[08:25:46]<omega8cc>:)
[08:25:49]<juampy_>mig5: what should I check if a plattform verification fails with error "x does not contain a valid Drupal installation"?
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[08:26:11]<juampy_>I have verified ssh connectivity and proper rights for aegir user on that plattform
[08:26:21]<juampy_>Am I missing something?
[08:26:41]<mig5>usually means you put in the wrong path to a platform.
[08:27:04]<mig5>it went looking in the directory for something that looks like drupal, and it didn
[08:27:08]<mig5>'t find it
[08:27:11]<mig5>so you gave it the wrong directory :)
[08:28:41]<juampy_>mmm, will verify, although I think that is pretty straightfoward, it was actually this: /var/aegir/platforms/drupal-6.20
[08:28:59]<juampy_>it was a test, would the hyphen or dot could make any trouble?
[08:29:19]<juampy_>drupal-6.20 directory was created through drush dl drupal using aegir user
[08:29:38]<juampy_>and then the plattform was added as a remote server for aegir
[08:29:53]<juampy_>(the remote server was verified before, with no probs)
[08:30:10]<juampy_>this is the first attempt of creating a plattform
[08:30:15]<juampy_>on that remote server
[08:32:30]<mig5>the dot or dash wouldn't be a problem.
[08:32:40]<mig5>have you actually checked that the drupal-6.20 dir is there
[08:37:31]<juampy_>yep
[08:37:51]<mig5>and if it was a remote server: you have to install that platform on the *master* server first
[08:38:02]<mig5>and not the remote server. the verify will sync the platform over to the remote server
[08:38:04]<juampy_>yep, it was installed and verified
[08:38:05]<mig5>so does it exist on the master server
[08:38:30]<juampy_>yep, it exist in the master server
[08:38:39]<juampy_>so what I did was, to summarize:
[08:38:52]<juampy_>1. installed aegir in a server
[08:39:08]<juampy_>2. created a plattform and checked it worked, cool
[08:39:19]<juampy_>3. configured a server to work as slave
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[08:39:43]<juampy_>4. added the secondary server at "create content > server"
[08:39:44]<mig5>you need to create a platform and assign it to the slave
[08:39:51]<juampy_>yep, that is point 5
[08:39:56]<juampy_>point 4 went cool
[08:40:45]<juampy_>but on creating a plattform on the slave, this is what I did
[08:40:59]<juampy_>logged in to the slave as aegir user, went to plattforms and executed
[08:41:03]<juampy_>drush dl drupal
[08:41:07]<mig5>thats where you've gone wrong
[08:41:08]<mig5>as i said
[08:41:10]<juampy_>mmm
[08:41:15]<mig5>you need to do that bit on the master
[08:41:16]<mig5>not the slave
[08:41:17]<juampy_>sorry, could you repeat?
[08:41:18]<juampy_>mmmm
[08:41:19]<juampy_>ok!
[08:41:35]<mig5>it is a bit confusing, basically we have a 'spoke' model in aegir where the 'aegir' server is a kind of 'master'
[08:41:42]<juampy_>I get it
[08:41:44]<mig5>and if you want a slave server, you create the platofrm on the master and say 'put this on the slave'
[08:41:46]<juampy_>so in case you need to clone it
[08:41:47]<juampy_>right?
[08:41:48]<mig5>and it syncs it across
[08:41:58]<mig5>yeah, among other things
[08:42:17]<mig5>so it keeps track of the site data and knows how to package it all up with a copy of the database and move it to another server if needed
[08:42:18]<juampy_>all right then, I read that someone mentioned that in a forum, but it sounded hacky, I tried it and worked
[08:42:20]<juampy_>unless
[08:42:33]<juampy_>that the .htaccess file could not be copied
[08:42:54]<mig5>i'm sure it can, it does an rsync
[08:43:10]<mig5>have a read of http://community.aegirproject.org/node/20, specifically "Platforms and remote web servers"
[08:43:18]<juampy_>ok
[08:43:21]<juampy_>will have a look
[08:43:26]<juampy_>many thanks again!
[08:43:42]<mig5>and http://community.aegirproject.org/node/446
[08:43:46]<juampy_>all right
[08:44:56]<mig5>so in case it wasn't clear: your 'drupal installation could not be found' error is the master server going 'where is my master copy, i want to sync it to the slave' and because it's not there, it failed :)
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[08:46:09]<juampy_>sure, I thought it meant "I cannot update things such as the settings.php in this slave and I do not know why"
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[09:53:16]<welly>Hey all. If I'm doing a migration of a site from one platform to another, I have a bunch of modules in a subdirectory under the site/mysite.com folder. will migrate move those to the new platform as well?
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