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[10:08:51]<mig5>welly: yes. the whole site dir gets tarballed up and moved across.
[10:09:09]<mig5>catch22 is you can never 'upgrade' those modules to new versions, since modules in that dir will always take precedence in drupal over any in sites/all
[10:09:19]<mig5>so as long as you know that, you're ok
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[10:37:46]<halp>just attempted BOA on vanilla Debian, this time following INSTALL.txt exactly. The DNS still doesn't seem to have propogated even though I've had my wildcard set up for over 48 hours. Forgive the probably ignorant question here, but can I utilize Octopus without the DNS? Like can I use DRUSH and get to work?
[10:48:15]<halp>updated my issue ticket in case anyone happens to see what I did wrong: http://drupal.org/node/1232530#comment-4795928
[10:48:15]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1232530 => Barracuda, Octopus, Aegir on Linode and DNS problems => Octopus, Code, normal, active, 8 comments, 1 IRC mention
[10:48:20]<halp>thx
[10:49:41]<halp>bbiab
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[18:57:56]<mariooo>anybody know what deb can be added to ubuntu 10.4 LTS to get drush 4.4 via apt-get?
[18:58:29]<mariooo>docs mention Debian unstable has it, but is vague on what sources location
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[19:32:24]<AquaticDisorder>good morning vietnam!
[20:01:20]<skwashd>mariooo, http://packages.debian.org/drush
[20:03:43]<mariooo>skwashd: still failing to see the debs paths
[20:04:18]<skwashd>mariooo, click on wheezy or sid
[20:04:32]<mariooo>yeah, and?
[20:04:49]<skwashd>look under the really big download heading
[20:05:41]<mariooo>yeah, that makes no sense to me. perhaps I'm looking for the wrong thing. I'm expecting something like
[20:05:45]<mariooo>deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted
[20:05:49]<mariooo>that I can add to my /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:05:58]<skwashd>mariooo, that is sources
[20:06:40]<mariooo>humor me, how would I derive the correct sources entry from that page
[20:06:56]<skwashd>mariooo, you can't
[20:07:13]<mariooo>that's helpful
[20:07:17]<skwashd>mariooo, http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[20:07:48]<skwashd>you will need to add debian unstable or testing to /etc/apt/sources.d/debian.list
[20:07:55]<skwashd>then follow that guide
[20:08:08]<mariooo>right
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[20:08:10]<mariooo>I get all that
[20:08:42]<mariooo>the only thing I'm failing to see, is where I can find a deb path for the sid source
[20:08:52]<skwashd>deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian unstable main non-free contrib
[20:09:04]<mariooo>even in this article, the dude just lists them
[20:09:25]<mariooo>is he the authoritative source for paths? wtf did he get it from
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[20:10:21]<skwashd>mariooo, from here http://www.debian.org/mirror/list
[20:11:17]<mariooo>hrm, iuno
[20:11:29]<mariooo>there are default debs in the sources.list that aren't listed there
[20:11:33]<mariooo>smells fishy to me
[20:12:25]<skwashd>mariooo, sources.list is the primary list
[20:12:27]<mariooo>meh, i'm probably misunderstaing something, but I got it to work with a PPA specific to 10.04 LTS so meh
[20:12:34]<skwashd>you add the others under sources.list.d
[20:12:43]<mariooo>yep understand that
[20:13:06]<mariooo>in my head, adding a sources list just adds another source of information about a whole bunch of versions of crap
[20:13:20]<skwashd>yes
[20:13:25]<mariooo>there are a few of these which contain drush 4.4
[20:13:27]<skwashd>that is why you using pinning
[20:13:40]<mariooo>there is one specifically that contains the exact 4.4 I want
[20:13:50]<mariooo>it happens to be sid
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[20:14:00]<mariooo>but nowhere can I find the fraking URL for sid
[20:14:15]<mariooo>Im happy to deal with pinning
[20:14:22]<mariooo>but whats the point if I havne't even added the source yet
[20:14:44]<skwashd>you have to configure the pinning before doing apt-get upgrade
[20:15:02]<mariooo>but no point running apt-get upgrade on the existing sources
[20:15:06]<mariooo>as none of them contain drush 4.4
[20:15:15]<mariooo>I need to add the sid source first
[20:15:22]<skwashd>yes
[20:15:22]<mariooo>the url for which is magically nowhere
[20:16:04]<skwashd>mariooo, you add the new sources
[20:16:10]<skwashd>you add the pinning config
[20:16:18]<skwashd>you apt-get update
[20:16:25]<skwashd>you apt-get install drush
[20:16:51]<mariooo>lol
[20:16:52]<mariooo>ok
[20:16:59]<mariooo>" mariooo, you add the new sources" <--- what is the new source url!?
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[20:17:12]<skwashd><skwashd> deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian unstable main non-free contrib
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[20:17:25]<skwashd>that is from almost 10minutes ago
[20:17:59]<mariooo>right - but I'm after sid?
[20:18:24]<mariooo>http://packages.debian.org/sid/drush
[20:18:25]<skwashd>unstable is sid
[20:18:32]<mariooo>*ding*
[20:18:50]<mariooo>so now that that confus is over
[20:19:08]<mariooo>you'd say to get the path from the mirror list here
[20:19:09]<mariooo>http://www.debian.org/mirror/list
[20:19:25]<mariooo>right?
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[20:19:31]<skwashd>you can get the server from there if you want
[20:19:39]<mariooo>or alternatively?
[20:19:46]<skwashd>the server i gave you is the primary australian mirror
[20:20:02]<mariooo>which you scored from?
[20:20:27]<mariooo>the mirror list, right
[20:20:32]<skwashd>knowing the convention
[20:20:42]<mariooo>and then the particular deb is just a param
[20:20:49]<skwashd>no
[20:20:57]<skwashd>the deb selection is handled by pinning
[20:21:00]<mariooo> unstable main non-free contrib
[20:21:07]<skwashd>that is the repos to add
[20:21:13]<mariooo>yep
[20:21:17]<mariooo>that's all I'm worried about at this stage
[20:21:34]<mariooo>I know I know I'll get owned if I run an upgrade without pinning, i'm not running any upgrades atm
[20:22:28]<mariooo>all I was confused about is how to tell apt to find sid
[20:22:50]<skwashd>the release is the first item after the base url
[20:23:02]<mariooo>yeah, awesome
[20:23:11]<mariooo>so as long as it's one of the official debian ones
[20:23:19]<mariooo>I can just tack it onto the end of whichever mirror is closet
[20:23:21]<skwashd>yes
[20:23:22]<mariooo>closest
[20:23:29]<skwashd>well it is always the convention
[20:23:37]<mariooo>see I was searching for a sid specific url
[20:23:40]<skwashd>not on to the end of the url
[20:23:53]<skwashd>_after_ the url
[20:23:58]<mariooo>yeah
[20:24:08]<mariooo>thanks
[20:24:31]<skwashd>mariooo, np ... next time i'm in sydney you owe me a pint or 2 for this :P
[20:26:46]<mariooo>or i'll just keep trying to give you an empty glass, to drink the beer you haven't got yet =P
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[21:01:22]<AquaticDisorder>omg aegir rocks and boa is the icing on the cake, I feel for the all the manual drupalers out there who won't see any of this kind of funtionality until at least d8 hehe >=)
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[04:09:36]<AquaticDisorder>darthsteven: just saw a post you made on groups.drupal.org, I'm west midlands too, I might have to come to one of your meetups >=)
[04:10:35]<darthsteven>Cool, next one is in about two weeks I think
[04:11:10]<AquaticDisorder>2011-08-09 19:30
[04:12:41]<darthsteven>Guy
[04:12:43]<darthsteven>Yup
[04:12:47]<darthsteven>Even
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[04:20:50]<theMusician>Is there a simple way to determine what version of Aegir is running on my server? I forgot to write it down when I installed it. Thank you.
[04:21:15]<ghankstef>theMusician: the postmaster platform version
[04:21:26]<ghankstef>hostmaster
[04:21:32]<ghankstef>damn auto correct
[04:21:51]<theMusician>ghankstef: autocorrect is annoying at times. Thank you. I'll dig that out.
[04:22:23]<ghankstef>theMusician: there may be a better way but thats what I have been doing
[04:23:10]<theMusician>thank you again
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[05:16:32]<kepford>Been trying to get Barracuda/Aegir working in Virtualbox(via Vagrant) VMs like it works on my VPS. One issue is that the getting the hostname to resolve as a FQDN. Could I use something like Dnsmasq on my host machine to do fix this issue?
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[05:58:46]<AquaticDisorder>apparently membership is exclusive? http://groups.drupal.org/hostmaster2/discussion >=)
[06:01:39]<ghankstef>no
[06:01:39]<ghankstef>http://community.aegirproject.org/
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[06:02:32]<AquaticDisorder>I know about cao but this group is still active
[06:02:47]<AquaticDisorder>ty though!
[06:03:32]<ghankstef>mo don't think its really active after the first 2 posts the 3rd post is from last dec.
[06:04:30]<AquaticDisorder>good spot!
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