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| [11:43:06] | <havefun> | hi |
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| [12:17:58] | <Tigeda> | Hi, Forgive this complete newbie question, but if anyone could help out with an answer. Ive been looking at Aegir and reading through the docs. Is Aegir something you would install standalone on a linode or other web server, or is it something you could run beside whm/cpanel? If it's standalone, how do you manage account quotas, bandwidth limits, email accounts etc? |
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| [15:17:24] | <mig5> | hrm http://twitter.com/#!/theanarcat/status/97532140400545792 |
| [15:17:28] | <mig5> | :/ |
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| [16:39:15] | <AquaticDisorder> | mig5: hrm http://twitter.com/#!/theanarcat/status phew it's ok hehe! |
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| [21:56:00] | <Harley> | hi |
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| [23:27:11] | <havefun> | hello |
| [23:27:53] | <havefun> | i have a question for experienced aegir users; once you have aegir installed, let's say you want to build a dozen sites that all have the same functionality, would you used drush make to do this? |
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| [23:50:42] | <AquaticDisorder> | havefun: you can use drushmake to create a platform and install 6 sites on that platform |
| [23:51:01] | <AquaticDisorder> | the 6 sites would then be using the same drupal codebase |
| [23:51:52] | <havefun> | AquaticDisorder: thanks for the reply, obviously i'm not up on the documentation. is a platform different than a distribution or profile? do you also use features? |
| [23:52:51] | <AquaticDisorder> | havefun: I'm new around here too just learning as I go |
| [23:54:01] | <havefun> | cool. i'm using aegir because i know i want to be smart about my site building and not repeat myself. do you tend to use features, profiles, or drush make more? |
| [00:01:03] | <AquaticDisorder> | have you seen http://community.aegirproject.org/article-archive/drupal-deployments-wor... |
| [00:03:48] | <AquaticDisorder> | havefun: like mig5 says in the artice "It's the million dollar question" but seems like a good direction developmentseed defo one to watch |
| [00:04:44] | <havefun> | AquaticDisorder: thanks for the tip. I had seen that article. I guess I'm confused about aegir. I know it's basically a gui for drush. But do you use aegir or drush to update an entire platform say from D7.4 to D7.6? |
| [00:07:14] | <AquaticDisorder> | havefun: I believe there's a number of ways to achieve that, I would create a platform in aegir frontend |
| [00:07:42] | <AquaticDisorder> | which points to a build file (stub makefile) |
| [00:08:01] | <AquaticDisorder> | the stub points to a github repo |
| [00:08:22] | <AquaticDisorder> | which has a profile and matching makefile in it |
| [00:09:03] | <AquaticDisorder> | after the platform is ready you can migrate site from 7.4 -> 7.6 platform |
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| [00:10:15] | <havefun> | interesting, sounds logical |
| [00:10:44] | <AquaticDisorder> | yh aegir should auto rollback if any probs |
| [00:11:51] | <joestewart> | havefun: here are a couple more links: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/256 and http://community.aegirproject.org/node/23 |
| [00:12:22] | <havefun> | thank you joe |
| [00:14:36] | <AquaticDisorder> | havefun: d7 is actually a bit different than 6, the logic from the profile is now in .install |
| [00:15:18] | <AquaticDisorder> | and the modules to be enabled at install go can go in .info file |
| [00:15:36] | <joestewart> | to make profiles in D6 more similar to D7, the profiler module enables modules and more using .info |
| [00:15:36] | <AquaticDisorder> | not sure if this is req but is available |
| [00:17:31] | <joestewart> | havefun: platforms are distributions. The platform is the drupal installation. It might have default profiles or additional ones. |
| [00:18:01] | <havefun> | can you think of profiles as a bundle of features? |
| [00:19:14] | <joestewart> | havefun: it is more. They are installation profiles. It is the steps taken during the site installation. |
| [00:20:03] | <joestewart> | havefun: required features can be enabled by the profile during installation. But also set the default and admin theme etc |
| [00:20:05] | <havefun> | so features might just be the module, module config, and associated content types. but a profile would be site-wide config and themes in addition to features? |
| [00:20:13] | <joestewart> | yes |
| [00:20:21] | <havefun> | finally makes sense! |
| [00:20:22] | <havefun> | thanks |
| [00:22:19] | <havefun> | okay so switching gears, once you have aegir installed and some sites built, you should still be using drush to build the site correct? |
| [00:23:43] | <AquaticDisorder> | I use aegir gui |
| [00:24:36] | <AquaticDisorder> | but like I said I'm still learning |
| [00:25:03] | <AquaticDisorder> | havefun: goodluck >=) |
| [00:25:08] | <havefun> | thx! |
| [00:25:31] | <havefun> | i'm trying to find where on my server, in what directory, my sites are installed to. i found the hostmaster site but can't find the other sites yet |
| [00:26:40] | <AquaticDisorder> | ohhh that's why you really need to read the docs |
| [00:27:16] | <AquaticDisorder> | if you have installed si before a platform I would guess you have used the hostmaster platform |
| [00:27:43] | <AquaticDisorder> | which I don't think your "really" supposed to |
| [00:27:44] | <havefun> | unix find command to the rescue |
| [00:28:48] | <AquaticDisorder> | normally /var/aegir/platforms/yourplatform/yoursite |
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| [00:29:51] | <joestewart> | a quick way to find them are the symlinks in the /var/aegir/clients. They should always point to the current path to the site configuration. |
| [00:30:06] | <havefun> | nice tip |
| [00:31:52] | <joestewart> | havefun: another hint before I go. Name your platforms using some unique identifier. So that when you create it again for those upgrades discussed earlier, it is a simple thing. May be something to digest later, but shrop made a doc for their naming conventions - https://gist.github.com/1012142 |
| [00:32:12] | <havefun> | cool i'll check out |
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| [03:45:31] | <alfthecat> | hi everyone, I just made an error.. I accidentally chowned the var/aegir folder to the aegir user. Now i get a fatal. Can I repair this? |
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| [03:59:48] | <alfthecat> | ah I got it drush @hostmaster provision-verify |
| [03:59:48] | <alfthecat> | :) |
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| [09:18:13] | <halp> | howdy all quick question regarding upgrading platforms using Octopus. I'm only asking because I don't want to bork anything and have to go through the BOA setup again. The installation.txt for Octopus stable says that I only have to update my username and email. So do I comment out the domain variable, leave it as is (does it know my uname?), or specifically set it to my domain like i did in the install? |
| [09:18:34] | <halp> | it seems to me that this config variable for the upgrade would be wrong and cause problems if i don't edit it as the instructions say: _DOMAIN=$_USER.`uname -n` |
| [09:18:46] | <halp> | but last time i didn't follow instructions exactly it burned me so thought i'd ask |
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| [09:21:46] | <halcyonCorsair> | halp: err, so what exactly are you trying to do? |
| [09:22:17] | <halp> | i installed BOA two days ago. since then D7.7 has come out and i'm getting upgrade warnings |
| [09:22:29] | <halp> | so i want to move from 7.4 to 7.7 using Octopus |
| [09:23:47] | <halp> | i know i could drush dl this and manually tell aegir the new 7.7 version and the path |
| [09:23:49] | <halcyonCorsair> | halp: ah, basically you want to use the same settings you used the first time, you don't want to change _USER unless you want a new user/octopus. you just want to add 7.7 to your current octopus, correct? |
| [09:24:30] | <halp> | halcyonCorsair: yes that's why the variable for _DOMAIN=$_USER.`uname -n` throws me for a loop |
| [09:24:43] | <halcyonCorsair> | halp: why is that? |
| [09:25:21] | <halp> | because my octopus is at: octopus.foo.com but if i didn't change that variable it'd say halp.foo.com (assuming the script would know foo.com by uname -n ? |
| [09:26:00] | <halcyonCorsair> | halp: ok, so you've changed _USER=o1 to _USER=octopus yeah? |
| [09:26:53] | <halcyonCorsair> | halp: so if your octopus is at: octopus.foo.com and uname -n gives you 'foo.com' then you're good to go, otherwise change domain to be _DOMAIN="octopus.foo.com" |
| [09:27:01] | <halp> | ahhh |
| [09:27:26] | <halp> | in the initial install i manually set user to halp and domain to octopus.foo.com |
| [09:27:37] | <halp> | now it makes sense |
| [09:27:50] | <halp> | if i had followed the install to the T, this upgrade would be fine |
| [09:28:06] | <halp> | but now I do actually have to edit the Domain variable to be consistent with my change in the install script |
| [09:28:12] | <halcyonCorsair> | halp: yes |
| [09:28:18] | <halp> | thanks for talking it out with me. have you ever updated Octopus ? |
| [09:28:22] | <halcyonCorsair> | yes |
| [09:28:31] | <halp> | easy stuff? |
| [09:29:35] | <halcyonCorsair> | halp: yep, just make sure you keep the changes consistent with your original install |
| [09:29:58] | <halcyonCorsair> | to make it easier, i created a branch in git and then merge in the new changes |
| [09:30:06] | <halcyonCorsair> | but i wouldn't worry too much about that |
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| [09:32:47] | <halp> | ahh i have to upgrade barracuda first |
| [09:36:26] | <halp> | what awesome scripts so easy and provide so much value :) |
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