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| [10:28:16] | <wickwood> | Hello Everyone. I'm an aegir noob using BOA on a Linode VPS. |
| [10:28:17] | <wickwood> | I'm trying to create my first platform with a drush make file, but when it verifies it throughs this error: file_get_contents(/home/wwmhosting-admin.ftp/make-files/wwm-openpublic-dev.make): failed to open stream: Permission denied drush_make.utilities.inc:452 |
| [10:28:17] | <wickwood> | The file has read permissions for the group users, but the Aegir user is not automatically a member of the users group. Should I add the Aegir user to the users group or do something else? |
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| [10:43:57] | <macrocosm> | wickwood ... sorry im not familiar with the linode setup, did you use an automated install script or something? |
| [10:46:07] | <wickwood> | macrocosm … yes I used the Barracuda and Octopus scripts. (Sorry about the PM, I didn't intend that.) |
| [10:47:01] | <macrocosm> | wickwood ... no prob ... I've never used b&o before, you should have an aegir user in the system no? ...your saying there isnt one? |
| [10:48:17] | <wickwood> | There is an Aegir user, but it's not included in the "users" group which is the group the user I uploaded it is in |
| [10:48:39] | <macrocosm> | anyway my previous clone issue is gone it was related to the memcache module :/ no worries |
| [10:49:48] | <macrocosm> | wickwood ... Im not sure what the specific b&o settings are supposed to be ... im guessed they are correct if you've run the installer with no errors? |
| [10:49:56] | <wickwood> | I don't want to create a security issue by adding the Aegir user to the "users group" or cause problems when I upgrade. |
| [10:50:18] | <wickwood> | I had no errors with the install or a couple of upgrades. |
| [10:50:39] | <macrocosm> | ok ... so then your make file perhaps needs better perms? |
| [10:52:05] | <macrocosm> | wickwood ... did you try setting that file perms to aegir:aegir ? |
| [10:52:19] | <wickwood> | Yes, either the make file needs different permissions or the Aegir user needs to be added to the "users group". If I need to change the permissions on the file, I'm not sure what I should change them too. |
| [10:52:48] | <wickwood> | No, I did not. But I can try that. |
| [10:52:54] | <macrocosm> | chown -R aegir:aegir wwm-openpublic-dev.make |
| [10:53:49] | <macrocosm> | im guessing lol your setup could be different being its b&o |
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| [11:02:17] | <wickwood> | macrocosm … Unfortunately, that did not work. |
| [11:03:35] | <macrocosm> | wickwood strange it could be perm issues related to what the make file is trying to download or perhaps some directories aren't proper in the make file |
| [11:04:08] | <macrocosm> | wickwood ... thats strange, perhaos it could be perm issues related to what the make file is trying to download or it could be some directories aren't proper in the make file |
| [11:04:12] | <macrocosm> | wickwood ... thats strange, perhaos it could be perm issues related to what the make file is trying to download or it could be some directories aren't proper in the make file |
| [11:04:21] | <macrocosm> | damn |
| [11:04:25] | <macrocosm> | lol |
| [11:05:01] | <macrocosm> | sorry for the triple post |
| [11:06:14] | <wickwood> | I don't know what it could be. First I error listed is: file_get_contents(/home/wwmhosting-admin.ftp/make-files/wwm-openpublic-dev.make): failed to open stream: Permission denied drush_make.utilities.inc:452 |
| [11:06:29] | <wickwood> | Then: Invalid or empty make file: /home/wwmhosting-admin.ftp/make-files/wwm-openpublic-dev.make |
| [11:07:15] | <wickwood> | Then: Command dispatch complete |
| [11:07:15] | <wickwood> | Peak memory usage was 10.07 MB |
| [11:07:16] | <wickwood> | Could not download platform using drush make. No platform present |
| [11:07:16] | <wickwood> | Command dispatch complete |
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| [11:08:05] | <macrocosm> | I think there is a --debug command you can run the verify with to see more error output |
| [11:08:46] | <macrocosm> | maybe try some open public google search with that error too, could be related to OP |
| [11:10:24] | <wickwood> | I can run the make file locally without issue. |
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| [11:12:14] | <wickwood> | To me it looks like Aegir is not able to read the file for some reason. Where does one usually upload these make files and with what user? |
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| [18:06:28] | <eugenmayer> | finally, migration in 8seconds |
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| [18:59:25] | <eugenmayer> | any reasons why we dont delete the backups when a site gets deleted? I mean, thats not disable, thats delete? |
| [18:59:35] | <eugenmayer> | there wont be an option to delete or restore the site anyway |
| [18:59:55] | <eugenmayer> | (as the alias and all meta-informations are gone |
| [19:02:18] | <eugenmayer> | -- |
| [19:02:57] | <eugenmayer> | in addition, i refactored save_site_data to save_site_date and save_provision_data ( site_data does not sync platform anymore ). That works out awesome |
| [19:03:58] | <eugenmayer> | There are some places to adjust, where save_site_data is used / sync site is used and add save_platform. JFYI, its exactly one place were you need to sync the platform, out of 8 or 9 |
| [19:04:11] | <eugenmayer> | that saves a lot of time and bandwith during migration / clone |
| [19:07:06] | <eugenmayer> | -- |
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| [19:07:29] | <eugenmayer> | also importing the database locally speeds up the process a lot, depends on the bandwith though |
| [19:07:59] | <eugenmayer> | on 100MBit networks, its more of 30 seconds, on 16MBit clients, its more then 2 minutes faster |
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| [19:16:37] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell wickwood: you should put your makefile where aegir system user can read it, so in Octopus tree it will be /data/disk/USER/static/ |
| [19:16:37] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when wickwood is around. |
| [19:18:31] | <omega8cc> | eugenmayer: is your refactoring available in some public repo? |
| [19:19:44] | <eugenmayer> | omega8cc: no |
| [19:19:59] | <eugenmayer> | its also, out of the perspective aegir core devs |
| [19:20:16] | <eugenmayer> | a frankenstein . Its a patched 0.9 (also with 1.3 / 1.2 / 1.1 / 1.0 patches ) |
| [19:20:17] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell wickwood: you should follow the Octopus how-to included in the welcome e-mail to avoid issues and use your USER.ftp to manage files there |
| [19:20:17] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when wickwood is around. |
| [19:20:52] | <eugenmayer> | omega8cc: JFYI drush sqlq —file is very different to drush sqlc < file |
| [19:21:17] | <omega8cc> | eugenmayer: hmm.. any plans to make those patches public? |
| [19:22:18] | <eugenmayer> | well as told you yesterday, i would like to discuss the direction of aegir in october ( iam to busy this month ) |
| [19:22:37] | <omega8cc> | it is a separate thing, imo |
| [19:22:45] | <omega8cc> | patches are patches |
| [19:22:48] | <eugenmayer> | if there is a common path, sure i will share it all. I did a lot more then just the "refactoring" |
| [19:23:35] | <eugenmayer> | e.g. iam creating / maintaining a folder called aegir/sites/ |
| [19:23:43] | <omega8cc> | eugenmayer: I'm not sure I understand you, are in the open source world or no then? |
| [19:23:53] | <omega8cc> | are you* |
| [19:24:06] | <eugenmayer> | were all sites are symlinked. That is very handy for "do this for all sites" tasks or simple back task ( as it no longer depends on the platform path ) |
| [19:24:59] | <eugenmayer> | omega8cc: well, its simple. If there is no common base for "aegir the community project" and the one we are maintaining, iam not very eager taking the work to create patches |
| [19:25:36] | <eugenmayer> | and discuss features, and create patches, and "unfrankenstein" my aegir. That is to much work just for doing free time - it cant be a "working time" task then. |
| [19:26:20] | <omega8cc> | eugenmayer: great, but if you are sharing your results while keeping the code private then what is the reason to talk about it? I don't get it.. |
| [19:26:26] | <eugenmayer> | we have run into this (i have run into this) before, getting pretty frustrated. I dont need to repeat that |
| [19:26:41] | <eugenmayer> | omega8cc: i can share the code, but without extracting "code" |
| [19:26:47] | <eugenmayer> | (patches) |
| [19:28:09] | <omega8cc> | eugenmayer: ok, then just do that (publish as-is), so maybe others will be interested in 'extracting' patches etc. this is how open source works, imo |
| [19:28:36] | <eugenmayer> | well, this is rather the worse case of open source :) |
| [19:29:54] | <omega8cc> | eugenmayer: my point is simple - there is no point in sharing results without sharing the code ;) |
| [19:30:04] | <eugenmayer> | well to be honest |
| [19:30:24] | <eugenmayer> | iam sharing ideas and debugging results. This makes much more sense then sharing plain code. |
| [19:31:04] | <eugenmayer> | iam sharing approaches. Nobody of you needs "code" to be written, when the approach is clear. Code is trivial, in 90% of the cases |
| [19:31:27] | <eugenmayer> | (just my POV |
| [19:32:05] | <omega8cc> | eugenmayer: well, I don't think it has anything to do with open source, open source it is not about 'open ideas' but about open *source* |
| [19:32:49] | <eugenmayer> | depends on your POV. For me as a dev, code is not "gold". Concepts, ideas and docs are. |
| [19:33:16] | <omega8cc> | ok, but it is not how open source works... |
| [19:33:30] | <eugenmayer> | sure, sharing is no issue for me |
| [19:34:02] | <eugenmayer> | just wanted to make clear, that approach / idea / debug is in my eyes even handier for you guys then plain code ( which is partially based on 0.9 ) |
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| [19:35:18] | <omega8cc> | eugenmayer: your eyes are just (and only) your eyes, open source is open source :) |
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| [19:50:07] | <eugenmayer> | omega8cc: iam curiuos, as i did not see that arround |
| [19:50:42] | <eugenmayer> | is there no need for a functionality that lets you access excatly the same site but on a different IP / domain, e.g. the "maintain domain"? |
| [19:51:04] | <eugenmayer> | so you deploy a site for you customer on 10.10.10.10, internal network |
| [19:51:51] | <eugenmayer> | "customer.local", and the you have a second vhost ( created by aegir automaticall ), e.g. for your VPN maintain network like 1.1.1.1, customer.maintain.mycompany |
| [19:53:19] | <eugenmayer> | that extra-vhost actually makes itself SSL if needed and has the customer-domain as an alias, which makes you able to access using their domain ( well you need udate your dns server ofc ), using their cert without being in the net of the customer ( or caring to connect in 1000 gazzilion different VPNs of customers all the time ) |
| [19:57:29] | <omega8cc> | eugenmayer: as Steve Jobs explained, people will never realize they need something new if you will not show them that new thing first, so there is no answer to your question, probably, it is better to turn the idea into contrib module and get it listed on c.a.o, and then you can verify how good the idea is |
| [19:58:13] | <omega8cc> | breakfast time here, bbl |
| [19:59:04] | <eugenmayer> | good apetite |
| [19:59:16] | <omega8cc> | thanks! |
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| [20:34:19] | <joestewart> | eugenmayer: current aegir has a "clients" directory. Similar to "sites" directory - http://drupal.org/node/1115960 Seems many of us had the same thought separately |
| [20:34:21] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1115960 => Moving a site between platforms causes confusion => Hostmaster (Aegir), Code, major, closed (fixed), 11 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [20:34:32] | <lolmaus> | I've got this issue here: http://groups.drupal.org/node/173119 omega8cc, could you please give a hint? |
| [20:34:33] | <hefring> | http://groups.drupal.org/node/173119 => MySQL root access denied. Where do i change the password? => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [20:35:46] | <eugenmayer> | joestewart: yes that looks very similar |
| [20:36:46] | <eugenmayer> | ah i see, people use this for SFTP - same for me ( customers can access <theirsite>/themes |
| [20:37:11] | <eugenmayer> | joestewart: are aliases also deployed to the remotes alread? |
| [20:37:30] | <eugenmayer> | joestewart: that becomes ultra-handy when you have sites /clients in place |
| [20:38:34] | <eugenmayer> | find /yoursites -type d -maxdepth 1 -exec drush @{} cron \; |
| [20:39:00] | <eugenmayer> | that becomes very sexy for a lot for things, actually for migrate and clone also |
| [20:39:14] | <eugenmayer> | i use this to import dumps localy, instead of doint it remote |
| [20:39:58] | <joestewart> | eugenmayer: interesting. I didn't understand "are aliases also deployed to the remotes alread?" |
| [20:40:27] | <eugenmayer> | joestewart: well, i guess you know what a remote is ( client ) and what the master is, or? |
| [20:40:47] | <lolmaus> | Where does Aegir store MySQL root password? |
| [20:41:01] | <eugenmayer> | lolmaus: several places |
| [20:41:03] | <joestewart> | eugenmayer: sure. site aliases are deployed with the site on the remote. |
| [20:41:36] | <eugenmayer> | joestewart: did not yet see the code for this in 1.x |
| [20:41:49] | <joestewart> | eugenmayer: that "clients" directory is only on the master |
| [20:42:07] | <eugenmayer> | oO |
| [20:42:16] | <eugenmayer> | why? |
| [20:42:32] | <joestewart> | eugenmayer: so far I guess :) Initial code, etc. |
| [20:42:38] | <eugenmayer> | joestewart: yet, i never seen the code for maintaining the .drush/alias stuff in aegir |
| [20:43:06] | <eugenmayer> | dont get me wrong, the master does this for himself with provision-save - but there is nothing for the remotes |
| [20:43:28] | <eugenmayer> | my "sites" folder is of course on the remotes ( which includes the master in case its local ) |
| [20:43:32] | <joestewart> | eugenmayer: ah drush alias on the remote? |
| [20:43:39] | <eugenmayer> | yes. |
| [20:44:04] | <eugenmayer> | i extra-implemented it, thats why i would be suprised its there |
| [20:44:11] | <lolmaus> | eugenmayer, please give me hints. My Octopus script complains for the wrong MySQL root password, but i dunno where to check it |
| [20:44:45] | <joestewart> | eugenmayer: nope, not currently. that spoke model thing again. the remotes do not have provision, etc. |
| [20:45:21] | <eugenmayer> | well…they dont need :) |
| [20:45:43] | <eugenmayer> | but they need drush - no doubt |
| [20:45:47] | <joestewart> | eugenmayer: it would be nice if you have a vision for fixing that to get it started. |
| [20:45:59] | <eugenmayer> | that "remote cron" done in aegir 1.x is just a mess when you start with remotes |
| [20:46:24] | <eugenmayer> | you need to do crons localy, e.g. because of solr ( "localhost" binding issue ) |
| [20:46:57] | <eugenmayer> | and when you need to run crons localy, you need to have the aliases ( because you need the domains for e.g. something like notifications, otherwise it sends emails with http://default ) |
| [20:47:19] | <lolmaus> | Guys, where can i check Aegir's MySQL root password? I've got Barracuda installed, but Octopus installation fails due to MySQL access issue |
| [20:47:22] | <joestewart> | eugenmayer: some like to use the cron url because of the APC available. |
| [20:47:48] | <eugenmayer> | joestewart: you mean the wget-cron ? Yeah, probably for smaller sites |
| [20:47:59] | <eugenmayer> | joestewart: my cron eats arround 800MB ram.. |
| [20:48:57] | <eugenmayer> | joestewart: with my setup, i can do things like |
| [20:49:02] | <joestewart> | eugenmayer: yes, I like to keep it off my front-ends. But from the other view, would it be so much if it had the benefit of APC? |
| [20:49:02] | <eugenmayer> | "forallsites drush cron" |
| [20:49:20] | <eugenmayer> | forallsites is just a wrapper for the find i gave you above |
| [20:49:31] | <eugenmayer> | oh, its "mdrush" ( just a wrapper for the alias ) |
| [20:50:05] | <eugenmayer> | joestewart: well, when using php 5.3 this APC argument is gone |
| [20:50:16] | <eugenmayer> | (AFAIK) |
| [20:50:39] | <eugenmayer> | but anyway, i dont want to make any cron-urls public, nor i want to call crons from the aegir master |
| [20:50:45] | <eugenmayer> | its not his duty.. |
| [20:51:30] | <eugenmayer> | those kind of crons stall your aegir master in addition, which is useless |
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| [20:51:53] | <eugenmayer> | (POV bigger installations, more platforms, more sites) |
| [20:52:09] | <joestewart> | eugenmayer: how is that? the drush guys are pushing for APC in cli but I didn't think it was there yet - http://drupal.org/node/1051748 |
| [20:52:10] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1051748 => Use APC to persist opcode cache when using CLI PHP. => Drush, Base system (internal API), normal, needs work, 15 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [20:52:21] | <eugenmayer> | we have arround 40 sites now, with arround 80 platforms - thats already slow enaugh |
| [20:52:46] | <eugenmayer> | joestewart: that looks cool! |
| [20:54:02] | <joestewart> | eugenmayer: cron on my aegir master has been OK so far for me. but I like your thoughts of moving it somewhere else. |
| [20:55:59] | <joestewart> | lolmaus: one place - hosting_db_server db table. |
| [20:56:28] | <joestewart> | lolmaus: nm I misread your question |
| [20:56:31] | <eugenmayer> | joestewart: 0,30 * * * * forallsites mdrush cron >> /var/www/aegir/.cronlog 2>&1 |
| [20:56:35] | <eugenmayer> | thats all you need on your remote |
| [20:57:03] | <eugenmayer> | all sites deployed there will be included in the cron runs and thats it |
| [20:57:23] | <joestewart> | eugenmayer: currently I don't have drush aliases there though. |
| [20:57:58] | <eugenmayer> | well you dont have drush aliases and you dont have sites, thats a bigger issues |
| [20:58:09] | <eugenmayer> | bug you can search in aegir/platforms with mindepth + maxdepth |
| [20:58:25] | <eugenmayer> | to find "only" sites folder, then "cd {};drush cron" |
| [20:58:41] | <eugenmayer> | that was my approach before, works ok, as drushrc.php is in there |
| [20:59:13] | <eugenmayer> | in my next step i also will maintain a group-file on the server |
| [20:59:20] | <eugenmayer> | so drush @allsites cron |
| [20:59:25] | <eugenmayer> | is ultra-easy then .) |
| [20:59:44] | <joestewart> | eugenmayer: sure. side note - you might find this useful or even add some features :) - http://drupal.org/project/project_status |
| [20:59:45] | <eugenmayer> | or |
| [20:59:52] | <eugenmayer> | drush @allsites site_offline 1 |
| [21:00:33] | <eugenmayer> | joestewart: hmm, cool! |
| [21:01:40] | <eugenmayer> | joestewart: but thats rather trivial with aliases |
| [21:01:43] | <joestewart> | lolmaus: IIRC barracuda creates a .my.cnf for one of the users to be able to access mysql. |
| [21:01:52] | <eugenmayer> | drush @allsites pml —status=enabled |
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| [21:03:30] | <joestewart> | eugenmayer: I think the first example in the README does say that it is equivalent to a pm-list variation. |
| [21:07:42] | <lolmaus> | joestewart, where is it located? |
| [21:09:18] | <omega8cc> | lolmaus: http://drupal.org/node/1268048#comment-4942696 |
| [21:09:19] | <hefring> | http://drupal.org/node/1268048 => MySQL root access denied. Where do i change the password? => Octopus, Miscellaneous, normal, closed (duplicate), 3 comments, 1 IRC mention |
| [21:09:56] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, thank you! ^_^ |
| [21:10:18] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, is the /root/.my.cnf created by BOA? |
| [21:11:13] | <omega8cc> | also: http://groups.drupal.org/node/173119#comment-575229 |
| [21:11:14] | <hefring> | http://groups.drupal.org/node/173119 => MySQL root access denied. Where do i change the password? => 0 comments, 2 IRC mentions |
| [21:11:29] | <omega8cc> | yes, it is |
| [21:11:59] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, so i should just change MySQL root password with the one from .my.cnf and retry Octopus install? |
| [21:12:34] | <omega8cc> | yeah, it should work |
| [21:12:47] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, you're awesome :D |
| [21:12:55] | <omega8cc> | I know :p |
| [21:12:55] | <lolmaus> | Thx omega8cc and joestewart |
| [21:13:11] | <joestewart> | omega8cc: you paste in the commands to su to aegir sometimes, I noticed the documentation doesn't have a " - " or "-l", shouldn't it? |
| [21:13:44] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, is it normal that both Barracuda and Octopus sites display Chive for me? |
| [21:13:50] | <omega8cc> | joestewart: it should, imo |
| [21:13:53] | <lolmaus> | (I ain't got Octopus yet) |
| [21:14:19] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, i might have to retry Barracuda install too? |
| [21:14:50] | <omega8cc> | lolmaus: no, search the issue queue for answers, it is a result of failed hostmaster install on both Barracuda and Octopus |
| [21:14:58] | <omega8cc> | probably, yes |
| [21:15:07] | <lolmaus> | Okay |
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| [21:15:32] | <joestewart> | omega8cc: me too, but before I changed it, I remembered you pasting it here sometimes so wanted another opinion. I'll update the manual install and the "working as aegir user" page. |
| [21:15:33] | <omega8cc> | joestewart: where it is in the docs? |
| [21:15:46] | <omega8cc> | ah, great |
| [21:15:46] | <joestewart> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/427 |
| [21:16:06] | <omega8cc> | hmm |
| [21:16:44] | <joestewart> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/389#Stop_Now_become_the_Aegir_user |
| [21:16:47] | <omega8cc> | not sure if that is the same when you use sudo in front |
| [21:16:56] | <omega8cc> | ah, right |
| [21:17:13] | <joestewart> | I still think we want the aegir user's env. |
| [21:17:16] | <omega8cc> | it should be su -s /bin/bash - aegir |
| [21:17:29] | <joestewart> | omega8cc: yep |
| [21:20:45] | <joestewart> | ok, changed those two pages. |
| [21:21:23] | <omega8cc> | joestewart: awesome, thanks! |
| [21:47:52] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, Barracuda installation stalled at "Installing csf/lfd firewall" :( |
| [21:48:37] | <lolmaus> | Maybe it firewalled my ssh connection |
| [21:49:21] | <lolmaus> | Nope, another ssh connection works |
| [21:52:22] | <omega8cc> | tail -f /opt/tmp/aegir-install.log |
| [21:52:43] | <lolmaus> | Uh, i've restarted the install alreas :( |
| [21:53:00] | <omega8cc> | for debugging what is going on under the hood |
| [21:53:23] | <omega8cc> | open new terminal window and watch this file during install |
| [21:54:04] | <omega8cc> | also, avoid installing everything in _XTRAS_LIST |
| [21:54:29] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, so i don't need a firewall? |
| [21:54:44] | <omega8cc> | you need |
| [21:54:50] | <omega8cc> | it is included by default |
| [21:55:25] | <omega8cc> | but if that causes issues (not sure) just empty _XTRAS_LIST="" first |
| [21:55:34] | <omega8cc> | you can add all those bits later |
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| [21:57:14] | <eugenmayer> | http://wiki.apache.org/solr/CoreAdmin#CoreAdminHandler |
| [21:57:25] | <eugenmayer> | i wrote an XML parser + script to do this ... |
| [21:57:32] | <eugenmayer> | no i have a onliner :/ |
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| [22:03:28] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, now my Barracuda works! |
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| [22:05:43] | <omega8cc> | nice! |
| [22:08:52] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, sorry to bother you but do actually need Octopus? I see Aegir running on my usual domain, why do i need another one? |
| [22:13:15] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: does Barracuda install do anything to stop the aegir user logging in? |
| [22:15:30] | <omega8cc> | lolmaus: install Octopus to find the answer, you should avoid using Barracuda Master instance |
| [22:15:46] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: what you mean? |
| [22:16:04] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, why do i need a domain for the master instance if it's not supposed to be used? |
| [22:16:27] | <omega8cc> | because Aegir requires it anyway |
| [22:16:46] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: I've added my pubkey to .ssh/authorized_keys, and allowed login via sshd_config, restarted the ssh server, but I get disconnected straight after I log in |
| [22:16:47] | <omega8cc> | it is why you should use some working subdomain |
| [22:16:53] | <realityloop> | as aegir user |
| [22:17:13] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: this is expected |
| [22:17:19] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, okay, installing Octopus |
| [22:17:24] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: why is that? |
| [22:17:28] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: aegir system user comes w/o shell |
| [22:17:32] | <mig5> | realityloop: aegir user doesn't have a valid shell |
| [22:17:36] | <realityloop> | ah |
| [22:17:37] | <mig5> | you can usermod -s /bin/bash aegir |
| [22:18:00] | <realityloop> | thanks |
| [22:26:24] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, minor bug? |
| [22:26:25] | <lolmaus> | Drupal 6.22 P.001 - http://pressflow.org [Y/n] y |
| [22:26:25] | <lolmaus> | Please answer yes or no |
| [22:26:35] | <lolmaus> | It accepts Y |
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| [22:29:05] | <lolmaus> | Ah! That was becaused i pressed something while it was thinking |
| [22:29:27] | <omega8cc> | lol |
| [22:29:49] | <lolmaus> | So i kinda inputted ^[[Cqy |
| [22:30:06] | <omega8cc> | just hit Enter on the keyboard to say Y |
| [22:30:15] | <omega8cc> | no need to write anything |
| [22:30:24] | <omega8cc> | to say Y |
| [22:30:42] | <lolmaus> | oh |
| [22:30:52] | <omega8cc> | or use autopilot to say Y to all |
| [22:32:05] | <omega8cc> | just configure your list in _PLATFORMS_LIST and then use _AUTOPILOT=YES |
| [22:32:44] | <lolmaus> | Yay, some fancy car cockpit |
| [22:33:33] | <omega8cc> | the fastest veyron ;) |
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| [22:35:50] | <omega8cc> | Octopus pre-configures your hostmaster features and settings, also with some UI enhancements, while Barracuda hostmaster is the 'vanilla' setup |
| [22:37:04] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, and also a Bugatti ^_^ |
| [22:37:04] | <omega8cc> | it also creates an extra admin account to get rid of that admin_menu crap |
| [22:37:09] | <omega8cc> | yep |
| [22:37:37] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, do i install new platforms by running Octopus script again? |
| [22:37:44] | <omega8cc> | yes |
| [22:37:50] | <omega8cc> | also to upgrade them |
| [22:37:57] | <omega8cc> | or to upgrade hostmaster only |
| [22:38:00] | <omega8cc> | or both |
| [22:38:02] | <omega8cc> | etc |
| [22:38:26] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, there's Drupal 7.8 already but Octopus only offers 7.7 |
| [22:39:16] | <omega8cc> | you are using stable, it will be in new stable, scheduled for release today (now in head) |
| [22:39:43] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, wow nice |
| [22:39:46] | <omega8cc> | http://drupalcode.org/project/barracuda.git/blob_plain/HEAD:/CHANGELOG.txt |
| [22:40:43] | <AquaticDisorder> | fastest car top end but maclaren f1 has it off the line q8) |
| [22:41:02] | <lolmaus> | I've got a problem here. My former Aegir server died, but its HDD was fine. I have set up a new server and mounted the old HDD as an additional drive. I know want to import sites from the old Aegir to the new one. |
| [22:42:32] | <omega8cc> | lolmaus: import their databases, then move entire platforms to /data/disk/USER/static, chown -R them to your USER and add them as 'new' platforms |
| [22:43:00] | <omega8cc> | of course you will need to add users/grants |
| [22:43:04] | <omega8cc> | by hand |
| [22:43:10] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, i was going to feed Aegir its backups |
| [22:43:53] | <omega8cc> | or create empty sites and import databases there and move files etc: http://omega8.cc/import-your-sites-to-aegir-in-8-easy-steps-109 |
| [22:45:11] | <omega8cc> | AquaticDisorder: yeah, but F1 are not a cars, they are rockets on wheels ;) |
| [22:46:07] | <AquaticDisorder> | maclaren f1 is not an f1 car you can get a road going version! |
| [22:46:42] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, i've got Aegir backup targzs. Can i import them automatically? |
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| [22:47:15] | <omega8cc> | ah, right, I remember that Rowan Atkinson crash |
| [22:47:33] | <AquaticDisorder> | omega8cc: yhyh lol |
| [22:47:39] | <omega8cc> | lolmaus: no |
| [22:47:52] | <omega8cc> | not automatically |
| [22:47:59] | <lolmaus> | omega8cc, that's sad ( |
| [22:48:17] | <omega8cc> | it is manual work, explained on c.a.o |
| [22:48:38] | <lolmaus> | c.a.o? |
| [22:48:57] | <omega8cc> | http://community.aegirproject.org/node/117 |
| [22:49:47] | <lolmaus> | Ah shit i don't have OpenVPN on the new server |
| [22:50:31] | <omega8cc> | also: http://community.aegirproject.org/discuss/simple-script-bulk-importing-n... |
| [22:50:53] | <omega8cc> | I didn't test it, but looks promising |
| [22:53:03] | <lolmaus> | Nice! Gonna check it out on Monday |
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| [22:56:58] | <AquaticDisorder> | omega8cc: if you like fast cars you should see the redbull concept car thingy in gran turismo5 (best racing game ever) "only" on ps3 lol no microsoft haha! |
| [22:59:26] | <AquaticDisorder> | omega8cc: btw way adding my ip to vhost to restrict access to chive url don't seem to play well with https |
| [23:01:12] | <omega8cc> | AquaticDisorder: for https you need to add also your server IP as allowed in the vhosts |
| [23:01:39] | <omega8cc> | because it is a local proxy |
| [23:02:26] | <AquaticDisorder> | omega8cc: yh I think I did it right in server_master/vhost.d/ |
| [23:02:48] | <AquaticDisorder> | omega8cc: then restarted nginx |
| [23:03:01] | <omega8cc> | pastebin your vhost |
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| [23:06:52] | <AquaticDisorder> | it's completely standard just added allow [myip]; deny all; between the brackets |
| [23:07:21] | <omega8cc> | pastebin please |
| [23:07:54] | <AquaticDisorder> | omega8cc: okey dokey! |
| [23:07:56] | <omega8cc> | there should be also allow your.server.ip |
| [23:08:23] | <omega8cc> | or https will hit the wall |
| [23:12:10] | <AquaticDisorder> | http://pastebin.com/jRXgv29k |
| [23:12:34] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: I've just added a d7.x platform on current stable Barracuda, but it's only allowing me to create a site using the testing profile.. any ideas? |
| [23:13:00] | <AquaticDisorder> | omega8cc: argh now you will findout I'm a stargate fan lol |
| [23:17:28] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: https://gist.github.com/1191172 |
| [23:19:11] | <omega8cc> | AquaticDisorder: this should be: https://gist.github.com/1191175 |
| [23:21:02] | <omega8cc> | AquaticDisorder: copied already? I will delete this gist as it includes your IP |
| [23:22:40] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: thanks grace |
| [23:22:51] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: is that in docs somewhere? |
| [23:23:13] | <omega8cc> | not sure :/ I forgot to add it probably |
| [23:23:31] | <omega8cc> | but it is in the Aegir queue in a few threads |
| [23:23:44] | <realityloop> | omega8cc: no probs.. thanks |
| [23:23:48] | <omega8cc> | yet, not in a docs |
| [23:24:06] | <realityloop> | worth adding on barracuda page somewhere? |
| [23:26:03] | <omega8cc> | definitely, in a wiki on g.d.o boa maybe |
| [23:26:30] | <omega8cc> | I will add it also in our master library now |
| [23:28:39] | <AquaticDisorder> | omega8cc: thnx but you where to quick I missed it, was putting kettle on, you know us english lol |
| [23:29:40] | <omega8cc> | ok, https://gist.github.com/2778dd3a3ab3bfa2d5e1 |
| [23:30:26] | <AquaticDisorder> | omega8cc: got it thanks alot! |
| [23:39:13] | <omega8cc> | realityloop: added in http://omega8.cc/library/tips-and-tricks |
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| [01:46:14] | <ruif13> | a noob question :) how can i add drupal 7 at aegir :) |
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| [01:50:38] | <eugenmayer> | ruif13: try to be more specific |
| [01:50:48] | <eugenmayer> | die you read the docs at community.aegirproject.org? |
| [01:50:57] | <ruif13> | yap |
| [01:51:00] | <ruif13> | some :D |
| [01:51:03] | <ruif13> | :\ |
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| [02:09:08] | <ruif13> | eugenmayer ;) i done that |
| [02:09:12] | <ruif13> | too simple .) |
| [02:09:13] | <ruif13> | thanks |
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| [03:03:55] | <wizonesolutions> | omega8cc (or anyone): What's the easiest way to create a local environment? rsync the .make file, run drush make, drush sql-sync the DB over SSH? |
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| [03:25:39] | <eugenmayer> | omega8cc: i just migrated our demo-platform with the new fine tunings |
| [03:26:01] | <eugenmayer> | arround 20 sites, normaly each site took 6-8 minutes to migrate to a new platform |
| [03:27:20] | <eugenmayer> | now its 30-50 seconds. One of the most important things is that save_data seperation ( from platform sync ) . This saves your 20x platfrom resync. So its really worth doing this for aegir 1.x |
| [03:28:34] | <omega8cc> | eugenmayer: and the code is... :p |
| [03:28:43] | <eugenmayer> | yeah, yeah |
| [03:28:55] | <wizonesolutions> | Uhh...is it hopeless to try making a local dev env when working in Aegir? Seriously can't see how to do this. |
| [03:29:17] | <wizonesolutions> | Can't find a make file or anything, keep getting illegal operation messages as I browse around in the shell :o |
| [03:29:29] | <wizonesolutions> | can't even look in the profiles directories of the platforms, lol |
| [03:29:30] | <omega8cc> | wizonesolutions: not sure what mean... you don't need Aegir to develop locally |
| [03:29:32] | <wizonesolutions> | and by Aegir I mean omega8cc :) |
| [03:29:42] | <omega8cc> | what you* mean |
| [03:29:45] | <eugenmayer> | wizonesolutions: to be honest, with the current aegir implmentation, if you want to do this in big scale and "stage" customers several times ( also maintance ) you need to develop a lot of new functionalities |
| [03:29:57] | <wizonesolutions> | omega8cc: But how do I ensure that things match up adequately? e.g. that I'm working with the same files at least. |
| [03:29:59] | <wizonesolutions> | I know I don't need the whole Aegir system set up etc. |
| [03:30:20] | <eugenmayer> | its very unhandy right now. This "platform <-> server" 1:1 relation is one of the real issues here |
| [03:30:53] | <wizonesolutions> | eugenmayer: You mean I should go straight to live? |
| [03:31:10] | <eugenmayer> | wizonesolutions: AFAICS what i saw from this new drush_deploy - it seems much more handy in this case |
| [03:31:23] | <eugenmayer> | wizonesolutions: well actually, its just very unhandy yet |
| [03:31:26] | <omega8cc> | wizonesolutions: there is no such thing available like any kind of automated sync from your local install to your Aegir server, you need to create your own workflow, and it can be manual, with git, jenkins, whatever |
| [03:31:38] | <wizonesolutions> | eugenmayer: Basically, the client is using omega8.cc. So I have to deal with it and make it work somehow. |
| [03:32:06] | <eugenmayer> | there is no automation in that, and before you dont have this, you really have to manually create a platform using the same make file, stuff it on the dev server, then clone the site |
| [03:32:42] | <wizonesolutions> | omega8cc: Doesn't need to be automated. I just need to be able to do it at all. The omega8.cc shell doesn't give me enough rights to even download the platform files at all, from what I can see. |
| [03:32:44] | <eugenmayer> | later, migrate the live site to "old.yourdomain" and then migrate the "devs stage" to live. This is really PITA as a process |
| [03:32:48] | <wizonesolutions> | eugenmayer: Yes...but where is the make file? That's probably my #1 question. |
| [03:33:01] | <eugenmayer> | well we maintain them using drush_make_ui |
| [03:33:13] | <wizonesolutions> | I'm looking for the Drupal 7.7 Dev one. |
| [03:33:24] | <eugenmayer> | and fetch platform directly as URL from the drush_make_ui interface |
| [03:33:59] | <omega8cc> | wizonesolutions: hmm, you can rsync complete platforms from our servers |
| [03:34:17] | <omega8cc> | just use -L option to dereference all symlinks |
| [03:34:26] | <wizonesolutions> | omega8cc: Does it work over rsync? Let me try. |
| [03:34:27] | <eugenmayer> | so drush_make_ui is our bridge from make file to platform ( while we automated that completly actually, so a make file is a real entity and can be updated, which will generate a new platform and all sites of the old platform can be migrated automatically by a trigger |
| [03:34:37] | <omega8cc> | of course, it works |
| [03:34:55] | <eugenmayer> | omega8cc: is omegacc a aegir-based hosting? |
| [03:34:59] | <wizonesolutions> | omega8cc: Where are the make files? Are those accessible or should I use drush make-generate after I make changes and want to add a platform? |
| [03:35:05] | <eugenmayer> | or a "aegir master" for customers |
| [03:36:15] | <omega8cc> | eugenmayer: yes, just Aegir, we don't use any remote stuff, as I never considered it production ready |
| [03:36:49] | <eugenmayer> | omega8cc: so basically every customer gets a own aegir-master |
| [03:37:00] | <wizonesolutions> | eugenmayer: drush_make_ui looks cool. I'll have to check that out. |
| [03:37:11] | <omega8cc> | wizonesolutions: I think you need to spend some time on drush and drush make itself |
| [03:37:22] | <omega8cc> | eugenmayer: yes |
| [03:37:46] | <eugenmayer> | omega8cc: urgs. But well, with 1.x - a straight forward buissiness decision. |
| [03:37:48] | <wizonesolutions> | omega8cc: Elaborate. |
| [03:39:13] | <eugenmayer> | omega8cc: as we actually maintain customer installation, it cannot be aegir-master-customers .. you would not even have a centralized interface…beside all that, a customer server needs access to the repos … which will never happen |
| [03:39:17] | <omega8cc> | wizonesolutions: I mean you need to learn some drush make basics, it is not really Aegir or our hosting related, there are plenty of how-tos and it is not Aegir specific at all |
| [03:39:39] | <eugenmayer> | wizonesolutions: basically, aegir builds platforms out of |
| [03:39:44] | <eugenmayer> | - tgz / directories |
| [03:39:53] | <eugenmayer> | - make files ( URL or local files ) |
| [03:40:17] | <eugenmayer> | how you generate those tgz / folders / make files is absoultely not aegirs buissness |
| [03:40:25] | <wizonesolutions> | omega8cc: Oh yeah, that's true. But without a .make file all the knowledge in the world about drush make wouldn't help me construct a local dev environment. That was my main issue. I'm attempting rsync now and should be good if that works. |
| [03:40:46] | <wizonesolutions> | There was no confusion as to Aegir's role in things @eugenmayer :) |
| [03:41:07] | <eugenmayer> | wizonesolutions: well if you have a make file of the customer…you can simply build the platform lcoally :) |
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| [03:41:55] | <eugenmayer> | or use your dev-server as a remote and deploy the customer there ( as a clone ) |
| [03:41:56] | <wizonesolutions> | omega8cc: I was unable to copy my SSH key to my SSH login. How does it work on your platform? Do I just do it manually? I was using Ubuntu's ssh-copy-id script. |
| [03:42:44] | <omega8cc> | wizonesolutions: first example from simple google search: http://renaudjoubert.com/d7one/en/article/drush-make-and-profiler-brief-... |
| [03:42:47] | <wizonesolutions> | eugenmayer: Yes, and I didn't, since I was using a default-provided one from omega8.cc and didn't know where they lived. And I think omega8cc said that they turned off the remote stuff. And then I'd have to set up Aegir on my Quickstart VM, which...ehh...don't really feel like doing yet. Haha. |
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| [03:44:01] | <omega8cc> | wizonesolutions: there is nothing specific about ssh keys, just upload the file to .ssh directory on your account (you need to create it) |
| [03:44:34] | <wizonesolutions> | omega8cc: Ah OK, I was getting incident reported messages and whatnot with the script so thought there were restrictions. Will try manually. |
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| [03:48:16] | <wizonesolutions> | omega8cc: pm? |
| [03:51:46] | <eugenmayer> | the key must be 200 |
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| [03:54:43] | <wizonesolutions> | eugenmayer: write-only? |
| [03:55:09] | <eugenmayer> | no, chmod 200 authorized_keys |
| [03:55:15] | <eugenmayer> | user-read only |
| [03:55:29] | <eugenmayer> | the ssh-agent will otherwise ignore the file |
| [03:56:20] | <wizonesolutions> | eugenmayer: unless my chmod fails me, 4 is read, 2 is write, 1 is execute. 200 means --w------- |
| [03:56:35] | <wizonesolutions> | so I reckon you mean 400 |
| [03:57:10] | <wizonesolutions> | anyway I get the point and thanks for the tip. I've been using ssh-copy-id so long I pretty much have forgotten the required perms :) |
| [03:57:13] | <eugenmayer> | urgs |
| [03:57:16] | * eugenmayer facepalms |
| [03:57:41] | <eugenmayer> | sure 400 … its weekend i guess :) |
| [03:59:02] | <wizonesolutions> | eugenmayer: tell me about it. Haven't been this confused in a while, and I keep getting great advice, but not advice for the core questions I'm actually asking! |
| [03:59:16] | * wizonesolutions can handle learning about Drush Make himself, was asking omega8.cc-specific questions really. Should probably just use the proper support form, was worth a try though :/ |
| [03:59:50] | <wizonesolutions> | blah, those last two lines didn't come out too well. no offense intended. a little frustrated. |
| [04:00:53] | <eugenmayer> | well this whole deployment story is currently very know-how based |
| [04:01:19] | <eugenmayer> | we invested probably 60MDs into it |
| [04:01:42] | <wizonesolutions> | 60 man-days, does that mean? |
| [04:01:57] | <eugenmayer> | (probably more). Its kind of a horror keeping all those things in mind for a longer time :) To speak for myself, iam really forgetting a lot |
| [04:01:59] | <eugenmayer> | yes |
| [04:02:00] | <wizonesolutions> | (and got my key in now, yay) |
| [04:03:04] | <omega8cc> | wizonesolutions: I don't use this channel for our hosting support at all, it is the Aegir community and devs channel, for support there is either omega8.cc/support or #omega8cc channel :) |
| [04:03:31] | <wizonesolutions> | omega8cc: Oh, there's an omega8cc channel? lol, well that's where I should be. see you there. |
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| [04:58:55] | <eugenmayer> | omega8cc: i remember someone wrote a solr integration |
| [04:59:22] | <eugenmayer> | as i have the solr_core_add / solr_core_rm command on all my remote, i though about quick-implement a hosting module ( checkbox for solr ) |
| [04:59:31] | <eugenmayer> | someone already did that? |
| [05:01:39] | <omega8cc> | I have heard about it, but afaik it was only provision part, w/o any frontend |
| [05:02:00] | <eugenmayer> | ah, well will need both anyway |
| [05:02:08] | <eugenmayer> | pretty similar to my vhost_extra |
| [05:02:22] | <omega8cc> | the link is somewhere in the hefring logs, i think |
| [05:02:22] | <eugenmayer> | or settings_extra |
| [05:02:43] | <eugenmayer> | well the provision part is trivial and needs to be done by myself anyway i guess |
| [05:02:46] | <omega8cc> | hefring: logs |
| [05:02:57] | <omega8cc> | logs? |
| [05:02:57] | <hefring> | yeah, ok, i admit, i'm logging this channel in http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir - ask me about log bookmark too ;) |
| [05:03:06] | <omega8cc> | log bookmark? |
| [05:03:12] | <omega8cc> | hefring: log bookmark? |
| [05:03:12] | <hefring> | http://hefring.mig5.net/bot/log/aegir/2011-09-03#T112471 |
| [05:03:16] | <omega8cc> | k |
| [05:04:53] | <eugenmayer> | thx |
| [05:09:24] | <omega8cc> | https://github.com/halcyonCorsair/aegir_solr_service/tree/dev_debug |
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| [05:41:27] | <ruif13> | hi again, i create one site with test my host is dev.localhost and i add in the /etc/hosts the 127.0.0.1 test and restart apache but don't open the site anyone can help? |
| [05:42:21] | <ruif13> | sorry |
| [05:42:30] | <ruif13> | it's solved :D |
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| [09:06:57] | <Egyptian[Laptop]> | hi - i am trying to set up uc_hosting but i cant seem to find the option that forces the client to create a new site when the client completes the purchase.. help ? |
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| [09:09:37] | <Egyptian[Laptop]> | aegir v1.3 |
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| [09:34:43] | <Egyptian[Laptop]> | sfyn: pls look at my previous question about uc_hosting latest on aegir 1.3 - thanks |
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