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[11:38:07]<SocialNicheGuru>does anyone know how you find out what is causing the wait time in yslow for the page post?
[11:38:31]<SocialNicheGuru>sorry wrong question....
[11:39:05]<SocialNicheGuru>does anyone know if I can have aegir installed on both the master and the slave server of a master/slave aegir config?
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[12:10:03]<halcyonCorsair>SocialNicheGuru: what do you mean? what is the purpose of the slave?
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[12:47:40]<milk>wondering if anyone might be able to help with an barracuda/nginx ssl problem? i enabled ssl last night and i'm sure it worked just fine then, but now i'm getting a connection refused error but error.log (set to debug) isn't showing anything related. any tips?
[12:54:34]<halcyonCorsair>milk: netstat -nlpt
[12:54:44]<halcyonCorsair>are you actually listening on port 443? (for starters)
[12:56:06]<milk>good start, and doh, nginx isn't..
[12:59:26]<halcyonCorsair>milk: /var/aegir/config/server_master/nginx/pre.d/nginx_wild_ssl.conf -- thats where the 443 listen directive probably is, so you'll wanna make sure thats included
[13:00:41]<milk>nginx.conf has the "include /var/aegir/config/server_aegirthingsandstufforg/nginx/pre.d/*;" line, and the default nginx_wild_ssl.conf is in there. hmm..
[13:01:44]<milk>i tell a lie
[13:02:40]<milk>nginx_wild_ssl.conf is in the server_master section, not server_aegirthingsandstufforg
[13:05:13]<milk>i changed the nginx.conf includes to point to the server_master paths, but now i get an basic offline pressflow install..
[13:11:03]<halcyonCorsair>milk: have you done any other strange things to your boa install?
[13:11:29]<milk>cgp and chive now work though. there are no files in any of the server_aegirthingsandstufforg config folders.
[13:12:13]<milk>nothing so far :) just installed it last night. only thing i can think is that i enabled ssl and nginx_ssl in the features, but i'm sure it worked fine after that point (iirc).
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[13:30:15]<halcyonCorsair>milk: should be like: http://pastebin.com/J1ZhH8h6
[13:40:31]<milk>thank you. the only difference i get is that the second goes to server_aegirthingsandstufforg not server_master.
[13:41:27]<milk>there's an nginx.conf in both server_master and server_aegirthingsandstufforg. the diff is that the former has *:80 and the latter the ip:80
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[13:42:51]<milk>sorry, opposite way around. misread the diff output
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[13:50:04]<milk>ooh, other strange things might include adding the linode server to my virtualbox server, but that copies remote conf stuff to be local on my machine, aye?
[13:56:22]<halcyonCorsair>i have no idea about linode stuff sorry
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[14:07:54]<milk>by that, i mean 'Create content > server', which allows me to create/control platforms/sites on my local machine but set that they will be hosted on the remote server
[14:08:45]<milk>then one just creates+migrates to live sites on the remote, but all via the first local aegir
[14:09:09]<milk>me mentioning it was probably a red herring anyway
[14:12:45]<milk>sod it, i'll just reinstall and make sure i check everything twice as i go
[14:13:17]<halcyonCorsair>milk: yep
[14:13:39]<halcyonCorsair>milk: in aegir, create content -> add server -> web server
[14:13:54]<halcyonCorsair>milk: then, add a platform and associate it with the new server
[14:14:08]<halcyonCorsair>milk: then create a site and use the platform you assigned to the remote server
[14:15:38]<milk>might just have adding the server in the local aegir have borked the ssl config though?
[14:15:52]<milk>the remote ssl config
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[14:31:24]<halcyonCorsair>milk: umm, depends how you did it
[14:31:37]<halcyonCorsair>milk: to do what you want with boa:
[14:33:05]<halcyonCorsair>master: barracuda + octopus, slave: barracuda, then on slave: unlink /etc/nginx/conf.d/aegir.conf, and link /data/disk/octopus/config/server_serverdomaincom/nginx.conf instead
[14:34:55]<halcyonCorsair>milk: and if you want the ssl on the slave, you'll have to add the config to /data/disk/octopus/config/server_serverdomaincom/nginx/pre.d manually
[14:36:02]<milk>ah, i thought octopus was more for clustering (if that's the right term?)?
[14:36:42]<milk>i.e. "multi-Aegir-instances", rather than "multi-server Aegir features"
[14:38:44]<halcyonCorsair>milk: no, by that i think she means the ability to easily create a bunch of aegirs, no server clusters
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[14:46:20]<milk>so i'd essentially have two aegir instances locally?
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[15:10:26]<halcyonCorsair>milk: well, i think you could get away with just a barracuda install on both servers
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[15:39:40]<milk>thanks for all your help, must sleep now!
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[16:52:25]<lolmaus>CAO is down?
[16:56:06]<mig5>looks like koumbit are having issues, since 4 of their guys just dropped off irc ^^
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[17:01:18]<lvb78>Hi
[17:01:18]<hefring>hey
[17:01:26]<lolmaus>Hey
[17:01:26]<hefring>hi
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[17:01:32]<lvb78>Looks like the aegirproject.org site is down
[17:01:39]<lolmaus>lvb78, yup
[17:03:13]<lolmaus>mig5, how do i restore backups created with your batch backup script? Omega has poked my nose into a post but i'm too stupid to find it. :(
[17:07:54]<mig5>use a combination of provision-save and provision-deploy
[17:07:57]<mig5>drush provision-save @example.com --context_type=site --uri=example.com --platform=@platform_example --server=@server_master --db_server=@server_localhost --profile=default --client_name=admin
[17:08:02]<mig5>drush provision-deploy @example.com /path/to/the/tarball
[17:08:06]<mig5>adjust as appropriate
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[17:08:29]<lolmaus>Oh, i've never used drush provision commands before
[17:09:14]<lvb78>Is there a mirror of the provision documentation somewhere?
[17:09:21]<lvb78>I'm using google cache at the moment
[17:10:08]<lolmaus>mig5, while Omega is offline... is there any documentation for BOA? It's kinda too complicated for me and BOA's project pages give me no clues
[17:10:15]<mig5>no idea
[17:10:19]<mig5>i don't have anything to do with BOA
[17:10:21]<mig5>sorry
[17:10:35]<mig5>i thought there was a group on groups.drupal.org though
[17:11:24]<lolmaus>mig5, there is, but it's full of little questions. BOA requires a lot of explaination, like where files go, what user to use...
[17:12:59]<lolmaus>mig5, oh, there's a wiki
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[17:23:44]<romaingar>Hi all, is there problems to change the server of a plateform who has sites inside (linked to this plateform)? I've added a remote server (verified) and want migrate my sites.... thanks !
[17:24:21]<lolmaus>mig5, i'm starting to feel that BOA is too complicated for me. Is there general infromation on how to setup conventional Aegir on Nginx?
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[17:27:05]<realityloop>lolmaus: you don't need to use octopus.. you can just use Barracuda
[17:27:57]<lolmaus>realityloop, Omega said it's a bad idea. Anyway, BOA is too complicated: it installs a lot of stuff and preconfigures the system so that i no longer control it.
[17:28:20]<lolmaus>I'm no goot at linux but at least i try to understand what's going on. With BOA, i don't. :(
[17:28:37]<lolmaus>Omega offers paid support but it's $80/hour. Sic!
[17:28:52]<vantage|work>holy smokes
[17:28:55]<vantage|work>that's a lot
[17:29:09]<realityloop>lolmaus: the only part I've found to be annoying is how cachey it is
[17:29:33]<vantage|work>realityloop: well it's either that or use a farm
[17:29:36]<realityloop>I deployed Barracuda on a server last weekend.. it's fine
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[17:30:01]<vantage|work>you can also throw a few dedicated servers at your setup and minimize the caching
[17:30:29]<vantage|work>the web usually scales horizontally
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[17:34:00]<lolmaus>I've got a problem here. My Aegir server died, but its HDD was fine. I set up another server and attached the HDD as an additional one. My Aegir .tar.gz backups are outdated and i would like to restore sites from the old HDD.
[17:35:06]<lolmaus>They say i can just swap the MySQL's data folder to gain access to the old databases. But i dunno how to dump my databases afterwards. :( Could you please guide me a little?
[17:35:55]<lolmaus>Also, i have no idea how to compare MySQL databases to actual sites. Aegir uses generic DB names. :(
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[17:55:26]<lolmaus>Anyone? :(
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[18:00:53]<Egyptian[Laptop]>http://community.aegirproject.org/ down?
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[18:02:24]<romaingar> "http://community.aegirproject.org" is down ?
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[18:02:40]<romaingar>yes ;-)
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[18:04:14]<Egyptian[Laptop]>romaingar: hmm.. ok
[18:04:21]<Egyptian[Laptop]>anybody got experience with uc_hosting?
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[18:04:48]<Egyptian[Laptop]>i cant find the option that forces a user to create a site when the user purchases a product. wher eis that?
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[18:09:18]<Egyptian[Laptop]>hmmm.. so is aegirproject hosted at koumbit? coz that too is down
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[18:12:12]<romaingar>is someone have ever change the server of a created platform ?
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[18:15:38]<lolmaus>Egyptian[Laptop], yes
[18:17:17]<Egyptian[Laptop]>and i still need to know how to set up uc_hosting :)
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[19:16:01]<lolmaus>Ah i miss CAO :(
[19:23:28]<lolmaus>Is there a mirror of CAO's docs?
[19:26:53]<halcyonCorsair>lolmaus: looking for anything in particular?
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[19:29:07]<lolmaus>halcyonCorsair, instructions for clean installing Aegir with Nginx, no BOA
[19:29:26]<halcyonCorsair>lolmaus: distro?
[19:29:50]<lolmaus>halcyonCorsair, Ubuntu Server 10.04
[19:30:17]<halcyonCorsair>lolmaus: funny, i'm doing that now in a sorta boa deconstructed kinda way
[19:30:28]<lolmaus>halcyonCorsair, huh?
[19:30:35]<halcyonCorsair>if you're not in a hurry, i could send you my notes when i'm done
[19:31:33]<halcyonCorsair>lolmaus: i deconstructed BOA and am taking bits/ideas i want and am doing it a little bit differently as i have no need for multiple aegirs, and our infrastructure is a little different
[19:31:45]<lolmaus>halcyonCorsair, in general, does Aegir have support for Nginx out of the box?
[19:31:59]<lolmaus>I would like a very simple set up
[19:32:14]<lolmaus>I was using vanilla Aegir with Apache and it suited me
[19:32:18]<halcyonCorsair>lolmaus: i think it does now: drush hostmaster-install --http_service_type=nginx
[19:32:28]<halcyonCorsair>at least since 1.2
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[19:33:58]<lolmaus>Nice.
[19:34:08]<lolmaus>halcyonCorsair, is the INSTALL.txt still acessible?
[19:34:55]<halcyonCorsair>what INSTALL.txt?
[19:35:55]<halcyonCorsair>lolmaus: i have the manual install instructions (not that great/complete IMHO) up in a firefox tab from before CAO went down
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[19:43:00]<lolmaus>halcyonCorsair, is the Aegir's git repo online?
[19:44:46]<lolmaus>No it's not, it's on aegirproject.org too
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[19:47:07]<halcyonCorsair>lolmaus: yes it is: drupal.org/project/provision drupal.org/project/hostmaster
[19:48:56]<lolmaus>halcyonCorsair, there used to be an auto-installation script
[19:49:12]<lolmaus>But i think it uses git.aegirproject.org
[19:52:37]<halcyonCorsair>i don't know, i've never seen it
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[20:32:35]<darthsteven>c.a.o is back up btw
[20:34:22]<mig5>yay
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[21:23:39]<lolmaus>Yay!
[21:27:01]<juampy>ping darthsteven
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[21:31:52]<darthsteven>juampy: pong!
[21:31:52]<juampy>Hi darthsteven, I just wrote to anarcat but he seems to be off on holidays
[21:31:53]<juampy>I want to give a talk about Aegir at the Spanish Drupalcamp
[21:31:53]<juampy>based in the one you two gave at London
[21:31:53]<juampy>so, if it is OK for you I will download the slides and start working on it
[21:31:53]<darthsteven>juampy: absolutely
[21:31:53]<juampy>darthsteven: http://2011.drupalcamp.es/en
[21:31:53]<juampy>great, I will get the slides from http://london2011.drupal.org/conference/sessions/aegir-one-drupal-rule-t...
[21:31:54]<juampy>it will be a translation of it plus I will add my personal experiences
[21:32:09]<darthsteven>juampy: I have the keynote source file if you have Keynote?
[21:32:42]<darthsteven>juampy: or could convert to powerpoint this evening if you preferred?
[21:33:03]<juampy>that would be great, I do not have a Mac :-D
[21:33:33]<juampy>my email is my nickname plus: 72@gmail.com
[21:33:33]<realityloop>seeen omega8cc
[21:33:50]<realityloop>seen omega8cc
[21:33:50]<hefring>omega8cc was last seen in #aegir 1 day 16 hours ago saying 'https://github.com/h_alcyonCorsair/aegir_solr_service/tree/dev_debug'.
[21:34:02]<juampy>thank you very much!
[21:35:07]<realityloop>hefring: tell omega8cc how would I allow Barracuda to serve non drupal php files in a subdir, /reports/index.php for instance?
[21:35:07]<hefring>realityloop: I'll pass that on when omega8cc is around.
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[21:37:33]<darthsteven>juampy: I'll try to remember to email them to you
[21:37:53]<juampy>ok, I will write you through your personal contact form in drupal.org
[21:37:59]<juampy>that will get to your email
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[21:48:34]<juampy>Is there anyway I can build a backup of a site in a server, download it and import it in my local aegir installation?
[21:48:56]<juampy>shorter version of ^^: is there an import from backup feature?
[21:49:39]<juampy>I think I have found it: http://community.aegirproject.org/node/117
[21:54:02]<lolmaus>juampy, there's also an auto tool: https://github.com/that0n3guy/aegirimportbackups
[21:55:44]<juampy>lolmaus: nice! checking...
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[22:21:44]<lolmaus>Hey halcyonCorsair, i've got Ubuntu 11.04 here and it has PHP 5.3. Is it possible to use PHP 5.2 from packages, not build it?
[22:26:32]<lolmaus>Or maybe it is okay to use PHP 5.3?
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[22:37:46]<darthsteven>lolmaus: 5.3 should be fine for Aegir or Drupal these days
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[22:51:10]<juampy>darthsteven: sorry it is in Spanish but still, it has been posted! http://2011.drupalcamp.es/sesiones/aegir-un-drupal-para-gobernarlos-todos
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[22:53:35]<darthsteven>juampy: cool!
[23:08:51]<e-anima>which one is the newest video/post on aegir. some hints? because watching 2 year old stuff ...
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[23:36:28]<lolmaus>darthsteven, thx
[23:36:40]<lolmaus>What username and groupname does Nginx have?
[23:36:53]<lolmaus>On Ubuntu 11.04
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[23:39:14]<lolmaus>Seems to be the same www-data as Apache. Correct?
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[00:23:37]<lolmaus>I have installed Aegir on Nginx using manual installation instructions. Everything went fine but the site shows Nginx welcome stub. Could you please help me resolve this?
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[00:35:22]<lolmaus>Oh! The site is available from localhost, but unavailable from outside
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[03:44:56]<recidive>guys, what's fundamentally different in drush si and aegir that makes such install problems happen? http://drupal.org/node/1265168
[03:44:56]<hefring>http://drupal.org/node/1265168 => Enabling multiple features at the same time may fail => Features, Code, major, active, 4 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[04:02:21]<raceman>hello all
[04:02:33]<raceman>I'm looking for some help with my 1st time install of Aegir
[04:03:16]<raceman>I was reading http://community.aegirproject.org/help as suggested at the topic, but can't find the error I have in my terminal
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[04:04:32]<raceman>I'm using a clean Ubuntu 11.04 64bit server under VirtualBox. After the installation of Ubuntu I followed the install guide at http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/debian
[04:05:39]<raceman>Because I have Ubuntu 11.04, the guide told me that I don't have to follow the instructions for Drush 'The Drush package you need is available from your distribution's repositories.'
[04:05:58]<raceman>so I only started the commando 'apt-get update && apt-get install drush'
[04:06:18]<raceman>After that I started 'apt-get install aegir'
[04:06:43]<raceman>But the apt-get install aegir command gives me a lot of errors, but starting with Drush
[04:06:57]<raceman>PHP Fatal error: Unsupported operand types in /usr/share/drush/includes/environment.inc on line 895
[04:08:12]<raceman>I removed drush, and installs the newest version 7.x.4.5 manually, but still the same error
[04:08:17]<raceman>Any idea?
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[05:15:34]<e-anima>hi
[05:15:34]<hefring>eh oh
[05:15:41]<e-anima>one question: Aegir is now installed. You can visit it at http://debian.debian.dev/user/reset/1/1315250072/f55563af4b0a9bacb2f2bbd...
[05:16:29]<e-anima>uhm jea well i am on a shell, i can not really visit that. i could visit it from a browser/second pc but uhm /user its definitly not in the apache www root. i am confused
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[05:58:21]<raceman>no one?
[06:02:49]<e-anima>raceman one sec
[06:02:56]<e-anima>finished my install half usccessfull
[06:03:01]<raceman>okay thanks
[06:03:18]<e-anima>i prefer aptitude btw :)
[06:03:35]<raceman>me to, but a followed the guide :-)
[06:03:37]<e-anima>hmm i did it on debian
[06:03:55]<e-anima>what php version
[06:03:56]<e-anima>=
[06:04:02]<e-anima>i use somehow 5.3 ..
[06:04:52]<raceman>I don't know, so far as i know the AMP stack will be installed by aegir on it dependicies
[06:04:52]<e-anima>i did no manuel drush install, i installed it from the backports
[06:04:59]<e-anima>used: http://community.aegirproject.org/installing/debian
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[06:05:14]<e-anima>hm i had all stuff like mysql already on
[06:05:19]<raceman>I did'nt, the install guide tells it is not needed at Ubuntu 11.04
[06:05:29]<e-anima>it killed my phpadmin vhost stuff :)
[06:05:36]<e-anima>thats what i try to fix atm
[06:05:45]<raceman>PHP 5.3.5
[06:05:51]<e-anima>raceman ah ok, i have no idea about ubuntu
[06:05:58]<raceman>ok, np
[06:06:01]<raceman>maybe someone else
[06:06:36]<raceman>I'm also downloading a virtual appliance for virtualbox to give it at try
[06:06:56]<raceman>I first want to see whats in it. Can't find all the details at the website
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[06:07:12]<raceman>Like to know if it can handle resellers, FTP, SSH and things like that
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[06:19:34]<romaingar>Hi is remote server must have mysql access to master server ?, when i'm create a new site only database and directories are created, the script (provision-install) stay blocked after this step...
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[06:27:22]<romaingar>hi, how can i have more logs when i use "drush provision-install" i don't find any commands inside help... thanks
[06:28:54]<romaingar>ok ok i've found : drush @lias provision-nstall --debug ;-)
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[06:44:12]<e-anima>successfully installed aegir :)
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[07:06:21]<halcyonCorsair>can i download hostmaster and put it somewhere so that drush hostmaster-install doesn't try and download it?
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