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| [10:07:12] | <cossovich> | mig5: I think that's a good point that you make though about prerequisite knowledge... that might be the kind of thing that I'd like to add to the docs regarding remote servers, notes along the lines off: Here's the basic concepts and practices you need to be familiar with... and then also maybe stuff like, here are some trouble shooting strategies etc. |
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| [11:00:55] | <cossovich> | Made some minor edits and additions to remote server docs.... http://community.aegirproject.org/node/30/revisions/view/2275/2324, useful? |
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| [11:29:03] | <Vertice> | mig5: whorebags! |
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| [11:49:41] | <mig5> | love you too Vertice |
| [11:49:52] | <mig5> | not as much as i love that mormon song |
| [11:49:53] | <mig5> | haha |
| [11:50:09] | <Vertice> | hehe |
| [11:50:09] | <Vertice> | =) |
| [11:50:36] | <Vertice> | prolly gonna see this tho - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6shc47Z8NS4 |
| [11:50:41] | <Vertice> | it's all australian and shit too |
| [11:50:49] | <mig5> | oh dear oh dear |
| [11:50:51] | <Vertice> | are you all that spectacular |
| [11:50:57] | <Vertice> | or do the movies lie ? |
| [11:51:11] | <mig5> | most of us are, it's true |
| [11:51:43] | <mig5> | the rest cop sting-rays in the face and die |
| [11:53:02] | <Vertice> | haha' |
| [11:54:50] | <mig5> | i hope you're following @Acquiasitions |
| [11:54:54] | <Vertice> | barely |
| [11:55:04] | <Vertice> | who did they aqueer this time |
| [11:55:12] | <mig5> | @DRUPLEH |
| [11:55:13] | <mig5> | :) |
| [11:55:13] | <Vertice> | sorry, i dont think i am doing that right |
| [11:55:17] | <Vertice> | acquieer |
| [11:55:27] | <Vertice> | making drupal 8 faaaabulous |
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| [12:00:09] | <Vertice> | speaking of fabulous, did you see the new devseed site ? |
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| [12:10:52] | <mig5> | i think i tried to view it on my phone and failed :) |
| [12:11:02] | <mig5> | is it Drupal? I'll only look at it if it's Drupal |
| [12:11:23] | <mig5> | #TROLLOCLOCK |
| [12:11:37] | <mig5> | yes it's awesome :) |
| [12:16:38] | <mig5> | i like that the staff profiles are 'turnable' with arrow keys, like what flickr do |
| [12:19:17] | <halcyonCorsair> | are development seed still active with drupal at all? |
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| [12:29:42] | <mig5> | nah |
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| [12:40:11] | <Vertice> | we left drupal behind |
| [12:40:28] | <Vertice> | it's like a year ago since we last accepted drupal work , i think |
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| [12:54:24] | <halcyonCorsair> | Vertice: whats your new 'it' product? |
| [12:54:33] | <Vertice> | node.js |
| [12:54:41] | <Vertice> | we built www.tilemill.com with it |
| [12:54:52] | <Vertice> | and we also use it for data heavy sites |
| [12:56:37] | <halcyonCorsair> | i've got a couple of co-workers who're a bit node.js mad...i haven't caught the bug yet though :) |
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| [13:03:03] | <mig5> | just a fad ;) |
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| [13:04:39] | <halcyonCorsair> | eugenmayer: hi |
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| [13:06:38] | <eugenmayer> | halcyonCorsair: Hi |
| [13:06:53] | <eugenmayer> | interesting, what timezone you are in? Iam here at the airport and its 5:00 |
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| [13:28:00] | <halcyonCorsair> | eugenmayer: i'm in NZ |
| [13:28:16] | <eugenmayer> | ah ok |
| [13:28:23] | <eugenmayer> | you had questions to the solr integration? |
| [13:28:27] | <halcyonCorsair> | eugenmayer: its currently 3:28pm here, so you came on last night at 2am or so... haha |
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| [13:28:29] | <eugenmayer> | iam just right now integrating it into solr |
| [13:28:41] | <eugenmayer> | I see |
| [13:28:42] | <halcyonCorsair> | eugenmayer: did you see what i had done so far? |
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| [13:29:27] | <eugenmayer> | halcyonCorsair: i did not see what you have created. I use manage-core of solr ( persistent ) with 2 shell scripts for easy managing ( wget for ops add / rm ) |
| [13:29:46] | <eugenmayer> | on the UI field, you can tick on a checkbox in the site "use solr" and provide an instance name |
| [13:29:54] | <halcyonCorsair> | eugenmayer: https://github.com/halcyonCorsair/aegir_solr_service/tree/dev_debug |
| [13:30:06] | <halcyonCorsair> | i think omega8cc gave you a slightly incorrect url |
| [13:31:11] | <eugenmayer> | ah, you even use the service |
| [13:31:47] | <eugenmayer> | well, eventhough thats cool, i guess not all of us will use "apollo" |
| [13:31:55] | <halcyonCorsair> | eugenmayer: yeah, real fscking pain kinda, coz the http/db services are quite tightly bound to aegir so they're not the best examples of code to look at |
| [13:32:00] | <eugenmayer> | i leave those things to the remote scripts, which should be present alwas |
| [13:32:12] | <eugenmayer> | solr_core_add / solr_core_rm / solr_restart |
| [13:32:29] | <eugenmayer> | while actually you dont need the last one when you trigger "reload" correctly in the add / rm parts |
| [13:32:53] | <halcyonCorsair> | eugenmayer: yeah, the point being that you could take the base 'solr' service and extend it the same way i've added the apollo_service |
| [13:33:03] | <eugenmayer> | yeah, i see, just derive |
| [13:33:11] | <halcyonCorsair> | that was my though |
| [13:33:13] | <halcyonCorsair> | *thought |
| [13:33:21] | <eugenmayer> | but then, it would be cool if you include |
| [13:33:31] | <eugenmayer> | "register" and "unregister" in the service |
| [13:33:35] | <eugenmayer> | so those can be overriden |
| [13:34:42] | <eugenmayer> | iam not sure, but i pretty much miss all the needed post hooks |
| [13:34:52] | <eugenmayer> | (post_install, post_migrate, post_clone) |
| [13:34:56] | <eugenmayer> | post_delete) |
| [13:35:19] | <eugenmayer> | so those "register / unregister stuff works properly - but AFAIC you dont use multi-core installations, and i do |
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| [13:36:04] | <eugenmayer> | iam about to board, if you have something interesting, it woudl be now - i will finish it on the fly |
| [13:36:44] | <eugenmayer> | I could use your module as a base, extend it with register / unregister and actually provide those hooks |
| [13:36:55] | <eugenmayer> | in addition, we would need an "instance" name, which is basically the alias then |
| [13:37:00] | <halcyonCorsair> | eugenmayer: yeah, i'll be finishing it in the next week or so, the work on it got put on hold due to some other urgent bits, but feel free to fork/modify, and i welcome patches :) |
| [13:37:30] | <eugenmayer> | well, see you in 1 hour - should be done then :) |
| [13:37:42] | <eugenmayer> | i will try to generalize it for the multi-core use |
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| [13:37:59] | <eugenmayer> | there is no reason for meto dublicate your work i guess - cu later |
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| [13:38:04] | <halcyonCorsair> | we do use multi-core, though perhaps not in the same way you do :) |
| [13:38:09] | <halcyonCorsair> | see ya |
| [13:40:12] | <jeremyr_> | Hey everyone. Does aegir limit bandwidth and disk usage on a per site basis? |
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| [13:42:48] | <halcyonCorsair> | jeremyr_: there is a hosting_quota module i believe....not sure how/what it does though |
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| [13:45:43] | <jeremyr_> | halcyoncorsair, thank you. That's probably where I want to start looking. |
| [13:47:24] | <eugenmayer> | halcyonCorsair: well, you even provision solr..thats a bit to much for my tast |
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| [13:49:52] | <halcyonCorsair> | hefring: tell eugenmayer basically i'm just telling telling our scripts to create a new solr core, and eventually theoretically take the schema/solrconfig xml files from the specific platform and put them in place also |
| [13:49:52] | <hefring> | halcyonCorsair: I'll pass that on when eugenmayer is around. |
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| [16:33:01] | <cossovich> | Having a hard time with a remote server.... if I want to deploy a platform to the remote does it need to have drush and drush make installed? |
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| [16:33:28] | <eugenmayer> | halcyonCorsair: landed. Well iam worked through your code - its pretty fine |
| [16:33:28] | <hefring> | eugenmayer: 2 hours 43 min ago <halcyonCorsair> tell eugenmayer basically i'm just telling telling our scripts to create a new solr core, and eventually theoretically take the schema/solrconfig xml files from the specific platform and put them in place also |
| [16:33:49] | <eugenmayer> | i just dirived our own service, and thats bascially all needed |
| [16:34:13] | <eugenmayer> | that one implements a different command path and different add /exist / remove methods and actually does not really deploy any configs |
| [16:34:28] | <eugenmayer> | but your way is very handy here, i can just implement it the way i need |
| [16:34:48] | <eugenmayer> | iam pretty sure your implementation lacks the clone migrate hooks, i will test that and will report back with patches |
| [16:35:10] | <eugenmayer> | (deploy is calling install, but that wont be enaugh on migrate, as delete is not called) |
| [16:35:36] | <eugenmayer> | clone is basically just a install, so might not need an extra hook |
| [16:35:43] | <eugenmayer> | halcyonCorsair: great job! |
| [16:36:44] | <eugenmayer> | halcyonCorsair: https://github.com/halcyonCorsair/aegir_solr_service/blob/dev_debug/prov... |
| [16:37:06] | <eugenmayer> | you def. want to cache this, as thats an ssh connection everytime you call that path - thats pretty waste of time here |
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| [16:39:37] | <eugenmayer> | halcyonCorsair: maybe something like this http://pastebin.com/gRYruZtA |
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| [19:17:20] | <eugenmayer> | Hello |
| [19:17:23] | <eugenmayer> | halcyonCorsair: arround? |
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| [19:26:40] | <darthsteven> | mig5: ping |
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| [19:56:59] | <eugenmayer> | anybody in here is briefed how services (arguments / meta data) are integrated? |
| [19:57:53] | <eugenmayer> | In particular, some of the settings are saved in the database and in the alias..now when running verify and all this, what is actually used. there is a method that the hostmaster injects those parameters usind drush_set_option, while taking them out of the DB |
| [19:58:01] | <eugenmayer> | this approach is limited, due if you do stuff like |
| [19:58:42] | <eugenmayer> | drush @mysitealias provision-verify you end up missing arguments. So more or less, those arguments must be in that site alias ( ive seen that with server-aliases mostly ) |
| [20:01:34] | <eugenmayer> | how to actually "enrich" those settings saved in the site alias? |
| [20:01:42] | <eugenmayer> | iam really missing so much documentation.... |
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| [21:06:40] | <eugenmayer> | halcyonCorsair: ping |
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| [21:43:54] | <eugenmayer> | omega8cc: great you are arround |
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| [21:44:21] | <eugenmayer> | iam trying to help halcyonCorsairwith his solr implementation and iam having trouble with services…iam just before just removing the service implementation |
| [21:45:13] | <eugenmayer> | basically its all about "storage" of the configuration. The hostmaster part is rather easy, then passt he values in .drush.inc "context_options"…all done. But now how to put shot in the aliases |
| [21:45:26] | <eugenmayer> | found subscribe_site .. but its only working for the base-class .. |
| [21:46:06] | <eugenmayer> | means, there is a solr base class and apollo /dw as derived ones. The subscribe_site method of those is never called |
| [21:46:41] | <eugenmayer> | out of any curiousity, also config_data is never called, |
| [21:47:00] | <eugenmayer> | neither setProperty in init_site having any influence…iam really a bit of lost here |
| [21:48:00] | <omega8cc> | eugenmayer: are we talking about halcyonCorsair's code? |
| [21:48:54] | <eugenmayer> | well yes, but i change quiet something already |
| [21:49:08] | <eugenmayer> | man, how many freaking ways are there to stuff values into the alias context? |
| [21:49:28] | <eugenmayer> | config_data, init_<context>, init_context with "config class", subscribe_site .... |
| [21:49:38] | <eugenmayer> | holy shit.. that is so confusing and useless. |
| [21:50:05] | <eugenmayer> | omega8cc: basically i tested his code and trying to get it stable |
| [21:52:05] | <omega8cc> | eugenmayer: I didn't check that solr service code yet, in fact.. but I remember darthsteven helped fix some issues there, no? or there are some issues still? is it tracked/reported anywhere so others (including me) could follow when we have some time? |
| [21:53:58] | <eugenmayer> | well there are quiet a number of issues, bascially with all the context / args passing things |
| [21:54:21] | <eugenmayer> | also migrate would actually not work, there are some typos / missing vars, logic things and all this |
| [21:54:46] | <eugenmayer> | more or less i need to understand / i need a hint |
| [21:55:02] | <eugenmayer> | how to store / retrieve values in the site alias using a service |
| [21:56:32] | <darthsteven> | eugenmayer: http://www.computerminds.co.uk/articles/storing-data-aegir |
| [21:57:03] | <omega8cc> | ok, but I don't see any issue posted at https://github.com/halcyonCorsair/aegir_solr_service/issues besides one closed, so it is rather hard to follow your (both) work on debugging this, plus, there is http://www.computerminds.co.uk/articles/storing-data-aegir |
| [21:57:06] | <omega8cc> | right |
| [21:59:02] | <eugenmayer> | omega8cc: well i dont need people work on issues, i just have some question |
| [21:59:18] | <eugenmayer> | that last link - i used this. but subscrite_site is only called for the base class.. |
| [22:00:31] | <eugenmayer> | interestingly you both apache / nginx |
| [22:00:47] | <eugenmayer> | did not use subscribe in your derived class of the http service |
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| [22:01:28] | <eugenmayer> | neither does the mysql service ( derived from DB ) |
| [22:06:15] | <darthsteven> | eugenmayer: possibly it is, which is a bug that can be raised against provision and fixed |
| [22:09:07] | <eugenmayer> | well no, enaugh |
| [22:09:19] | <eugenmayer> | 6 hours. No. I ditch it and go the usual way |
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| [22:31:38] | <darthsteven> | eugenmayer: what do you mean? |
| [22:32:09] | <eugenmayer> | well, i will not derive solr, i will hack it |
| [22:32:25] | <darthsteven> | right... |
| [22:32:31] | <eugenmayer> | derive my implementation but hack the subscribe_site method - that actually means in makes no senserelease it |
| [22:32:35] | <eugenmayer> | And yes, iam tired. |
| [22:32:44] | <darthsteven> | rather than making a nice patch and fixing it for everyone? |
| [22:32:56] | <eugenmayer> | Well, i cant patch what i cant understand. |
| [22:33:00] | <darthsteven> | ok |
| [22:33:09] | <eugenmayer> | If i could patch it, i would. |
| [22:33:11] | <darthsteven> | if you can describe the problem in an issue on d.o I can fix it |
| [22:35:44] | <darthsteven> | I can't fix it if it's just some chatter on IRC |
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| [22:39:28] | <eugenmayer> | darthsteven: i have put some seriuos time into that issue ( and some others already ). I see myself in the position to tell, i have done enaugh for this issue already, far more then planed. But you still try to educate me to use / adept to your workflow |
| [22:40:27] | <darthsteven> | eugenmayer: only so that others don't have to go through what you have. All I'm asking it that you open an issue on d.o describing the issue you have |
| [22:40:57] | <eugenmayer> | Anyway, i dont want fighting. Iam fine with you issues on d.o., thats your way. So lets see if that issue get there |
| [22:41:32] | <darthsteven> | I don't want to fight either |
| [22:41:50] | <darthsteven> | but this is the workflow of the entire Drupal community, of which Aegir is part |
| [22:41:58] | <darthsteven> | file issues on d.o |
| [22:42:01] | <darthsteven> | and then fix them |
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| [00:09:22] | <eugenmayer> | omega8cc: halcyonCorsair: if you like to continue, i forked your repo here https://github.com/EugenMayer/aegir_solr_service |
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| [01:47:26] | <theMusician> | I have a cloning issue. I have a package that is the same version but has a higher number in parenthesis next to it. I am unable to clone to the platform because Aegir states that I have an error. I have drush dl the latest package but still the issue persists. Is there a way to override Aegir? |
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| [02:16:16] | <eugenmayer1> | with the current db service / mysql service of 1.3 iam facing "Failed dropping database" on some migrations |
| [02:17:03] | <eugenmayer1> | odd, that it does not happen to all migrations, but when it happens to a site, it does not dissapear. The database exists ( its the old one ) and the aliases look ok to me. Couldnt find anything in the issue queue, but maybe someone stumbled upon that? |
| [02:18:22] | <eugenmayer1> | there is no error message in the logs ( which i can see would be added by the exception |
| [02:24:01] | <eugenmayer1> | interesting, it seems to be solved by verifing the site first, then migrating. That would mean |
| [02:24:17] | <eugenmayer1> | the site-settings are out of sync or similar things to be debugged |
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| [03:24:53] | <theMusician> | I have a cloning issue. I have a package that is the same version but has a higher number in parenthesis next to it. I am unable to clone to the platform because Aegir states that I have an error. I have drush dl the latest package but still the issue persists. Is there a way to override Aegir? Verifying the platforms and site do not fix the issue. |
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| [03:52:46] | <theMusician> | I had to upgrade the package to an rc for the clone to be allowed. Not an ideal solution. I am still curious as to why the numbers in parentheses block cloning. |
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| [04:06:25] | <noecc> | theMusician: Take a look at Upgrades, warnings, errors -> http://community.aegirproject.org/node/23 |
| [04:11:12] | <theMusician> | noecc: Thanks for the link. I still do not understand why the schema variation exists between the exact same module. I understand why an earlier version would cause an error, but where/how does the schema become generated. |
| [04:20:41] | <omega8cc> | theMusician: it is a bug in Aegir - it sometimes creates package record with incremented value, while in fact no such value exists in the db updates for this module, so the fix is to delete related package rows in the hostmaster database and re-verify your platform and site to sync it again to the reality |
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| [04:31:47] | <theMusician> | thanks omega8cc that is great to know. I'll pass it along to other developers in my org as well. |
| [04:32:03] | <omega8cc> | np |
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| [05:00:57] | <tuxtek> | hello, we are trying to work around some ssl limitations in aegir. Specifically, we need the ability to assign ssl port by site verss by server. This is to get around some limitations we have due to multiple certs combined with the use of amazons elb's. Any ideas as to how we could hijack the process of enabling encryption and force it to use our ssl port versus the default for the site? |
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| [05:02:47] | <tuxtek> | We have created a module that gives us the input field and that all works dandy; it is just trying to figure out the second part that we are having no luck with |
| [05:03:14] | <inpheaux> | right, so far we've managed to store an extra variable for our per-site ssl port, and can pull it in via hook_provision_apache_vhost_config, but that's only going to add to existing vhost configs, not let us change the port used for a specifically ssl config. |
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| [05:17:27] | * tuxtek has changed the topic to Aegir hosting system 1.3 released! http://community.aegirproject.org/1.3 | Issue queue: http://is.gd/edalY | read this before asking: http://community.aegirproject.org/help | scrums on tuesday 1000UTC | our gSoC student application was accepted, congrats seth! | Our training at drupalcon london was a success, and videos of our presentations are available at the drupalcon london website! |
| [05:20:44] | <omega8cc> | tuxtek: inpheaux: we use workaround for built-in Aegir limitations related to SSL support and simply use Nginx proxy in front of standard HTTP sites in Aegir, so we can use many certs on the same IP with TLS SNI etc. |
| [05:22:49] | <omega8cc> | tuxtek: inpheaux: you would need to modify server and vhost templates to include there custom ports, as 80 and 443 are hardcoded |
| [05:23:10] | <tuxtek> | Gotcha, so similar to what we are doing already with Varnish |
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| [06:42:06] | <Vertice> | omega8cc: there's a drupal module for jekyll - https://github.com/mojombo/jekyll/blob/master/lib/jekyll/migrators/drupa... |
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| [06:48:05] | <omega8cc> | Vertice: wow, nice! anyway, this refreshes perspective, as in fact so many people don't really need a CMS, not only Drupal, not even WordPress, they only need some smart tool to manage otherwise manual work on updating their content, but most of them have no idea how simple this can be without stuff like CMS, databases etc |
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| [07:01:36] | <omega8cc> | hefring: tell Vertice: nice, I see there is even my pre-Drupal, TXP module: https://github.com/mojombo/jekyll/wiki/blog-migrations |
| [07:01:36] | <hefring> | omega8cc: I'll pass that on when Vertice is around. |
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| [07:22:20] | <dogi> | omega8cc, what is best way to index a directory for download.domainname on a boa system |
| [07:24:19] | <omega8cc> | dogi: I will give you a nice and simple/fast recipe, but promise that you will post it on our g.d.o wiki :p |
| [07:27:36] | <dogi> | lol |
| [07:28:05] | <dogi> | :) |
| [07:34:36] | <omega8cc> | dogi: I assume it was your "OK" :), so: https://gist.github.com/1207390 |
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| [07:58:46] | <dogi> | omega8cc, ty |
| [07:59:12] | <dogi> | http://wiki.nginx.org/HttpAutoindexModule |
| [08:00:31] | <dogi> | was mostly wondering if there a drupal template which does similar things |
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| [08:04:08] | <omega8cc> | dogi: it is too simple to create just another UI/module to do it, imo |
| [08:04:40] | <dogi> | omega8cc, I know |
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| [08:23:31] | <omega8cc> | dogi: thanks! |
| [08:31:36] | <dogi> | no no thank you |
| [08:31:44] | <dogi> | :) |
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